[T10] Please review 20-002r1 and report to Bill Martin

Bill Martin bill.martin at samsung.com
Thu Mar 12 12:56:24 PDT 2020


John;

The context that you are missing is that the a, b, c list that is deleted is fully covered in the ZBC-2 specification. The end of this proposal contains the text from the ZBC specification.

If you take that light on the deleted text, do you believe that the list you pointed out is or is not covered in the ZBC specification?


Bill Martin

Chair INCITS T10
Co-Chair SNIA Technical Council
SSD I/O Standards
Samsung Semiconductor, Inc.

Cell (408) 499-1839
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From: John Geldman <John.Geldman at kioxia.com>
Sent: Mar 12, 2020 1:54 PM
To: Bill Martin <bill.martin at samsung.com>; Ralph Weber <Ralph.Weber at wdc.com>; t10 at t10.org
Subject: RE: Please review 20-002r1 and report to Bill Martin

I’ve snuck in some review, and I’ll confess with half attention during my meetings this morning.

I am ok with the changes in 4.11.1 (I prefer this new language) and 5.29.1 (I am missing the essential benefit of the new text, but I don’t object to it).

However, I am troubled with the removal of the [abcd] list in 4.11.4. Information such as the use of a Zone Condition of OFFLINE to replace the deallocate functionality of conventional doesn’t exist anywhere else. I believe there was a baby in that bath water.

So as a whole (as we normally process proposals), I do not approve of 20-002r1.

John

From: Bill Martin <bill.martin at samsung.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 8:54 AM
To: John Geldman <John.Geldman at kioxia.com>; Ralph Weber <Ralph.Weber at wdc.com>
Subject: RE: Please review 20-002r1 and report to Bill Martin

John:

Can you let me know before I get on my plane at 1:00 PDT? That way I can incorporate during my flight time today. If not, I will incorporate this last and wait for your response.

Thank you,

Bill Martin
Chair INCITS T10
Co-Chair SNIA Technical Council
SSD I/O Standards
NVMe Board of Directors
Samsung Semiconductor, Inc.
Cell (408) 499-1839

From: John Geldman [mailto:John.Geldman at kioxia.com]
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Subject: RE: Please review 20-002r1 and report to Bill Martin

Good Morning,

I did a crazy thing and took the evening off from email. This morning I have NVMe and PCI-SIG meetings from 7 AM to 11 AM (Pacific).
Meeting this time request for 9 AM (Pacific) is going to be difficult. I’ll have half an eye on it and we’ll see when it gets done.

John

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Subject: Please review 20-002r1 and report to Bill Martin

John,

The CAP Working Group has asked me to request your review of:
20-002r1

SBC-4: Rebalance ZNR requirements with ZBC-2 (and SATA)

Ralph Weber

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To the extent possible, CAP insists that you notify Bill that the incorporation of the changes in 20-002r1 is acceptable to you (e.g., that you would have voted for the proposal had you been in Palm Beach to do so).

Bill has indicted that he has a unique opportunity to build SBC-4 r19 between noon Thursday and noon Friday. So, your prompt attention to the two pages in 20-002r1 will greatly expedite the publication of SBC-4. Hopefully, you can help make this happen.

All the best,

.Ralph



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