How should ATA/ATAPI-8 be referenced?
John Geldman (jgeldman)
jgeldman at lexar.com
Mon Aug 16 12:16:34 PDT 2010
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* "John Geldman (jgeldman)" <jgeldman at lexar.com>
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There are exactly nine occurrences to ATA/ATAPI-7 in SPC4r25.
(and Ralph, note that AT/ATAPI-7 != ATA/ATAPI-7)
Most of these occurrences are version descriptors (e.g., Table 142 Version
descriptor values
"ATA/ATAPI-6 (no version claimed) 15E0h
ATA/ATAPI-6 ANSI INCITS 361-2002 15FDh
ATA/ATAPI-7 (no version claimed) 1600h
ATA/ATAPI-7 ANSI INCITS 397-2005 161Ch
ATA/ATAPI-7 T13/1532-D revision 3 1602h
ATA/ATAPI-8 ATA8-AAM (no version claimed) 1620h
ATA/ATAPI-8 ATA8-AAM ANSI INCITS 451-2008 1628h
ATA/ATAPI-8 ATA8-APT Parallel Transport (no version claimed) 1621h
ATA/ATAPI-8 ATA8-AST Serial Transport (no version claimed) 1622h
ATA/ATAPI-8 ATA8-ACS ATA/ATAPI Command Set (no version claimed) 1623h
ATA/ATAPI-8 ATA8-ACS ANSI INCITS 452-2009 w/ Amendment 1 162Ah")
Only one occurrence isn't a version descriptors: Table 389 contains the ATA
protocol identifier.
** Table 389 contains protocols (e.g., SPL) and full interfaces (e.g., IEEE
1394). Should this entry be changed to AAM (which avoids the ever-evolving
ACS reference, and is so-far almost always true)?
** If the AAM/AST/APT documents are only found in version descriptor value
definition, do they need references?
** And is this editorial issue, or is a proposal needed?
John Geldman
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Subject: RE: How should ATA/ATAPI-8 be referenced?
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* "Curtis Stevens" <curtis.stevens at wdc.com>
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The reference for this doc is ATA8-ACS. The follow-on will be ACS-2.
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Subject: How should ATA/ATAPI-8 be referenced?
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* Ralph Weber <roweber at ieee.org>
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During the CAP meeting, I was asked to change the Protocol
Identifier for ATA/ATAPI-7 to ATA/ATAPI-8.
This does not jibe with the Normative References section of
SPC-4, and I cannot see how to fix it.
ATA/ATAPI-8 is *not* an ISO/IEC project. The closest thing
to a project in this area is ATA-8 ACS.
Some might debate whether referencing ATA-8 ACS is correct
for Protocol Identifiers. Perhaps ATA-8 AAM should be
referenced instead, but there is no ISO/IEC project for
ATA-8 AAM.
Until an appropriate normative reference can be identified,
I have left the SPC-4 Protocol Identifiers table unmodified.
All the best,
.Ralph
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