Identify Frame and RRDY transmission.

Kevin_Marks at Kevin_Marks at
Thu Dec 14 12:12:46 PST 2006

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7.16.1 Says that if you are going to accept a connection with
OPEN_ACCEPT, then you better be able to provide at least one RRDY within
1ms or you shall not accept the connection and instead reply with
State machine takes precedence, however it is gross timer at that. 
From: owner-t10 at [mailto:owner-t10 at] On Behalf Of Mona
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:51 AM
To: t10 at
Subject: Identify Frame and RRDY transmission.
Hello all,
I am referring to sas2r07 version. 
1)Please see the section 7.16.1 of the specification.
 7.16.1 Opening an SSP connection
An SSP phy that accepts an OPEN address frame shall transmit at least
one RRDY in that connection within
1 ms of transmitting an OPEN_ACCEPT. If the SSP phy is not able to grant
credit, it shall respond with
OPEN_REJECT (RETRY) and not accept the connection request.
According to this statement, OPEN_REJECT will be transmitted if RRDY
can't b transmitted after accepting the connection. It means
OPEN_REJECT(RETRY) will be transmitted after OPEN_ACCEPT is transmitted.
But as stated in Table 88, OPEN_REJECT is transmitted when there is no
connection. Both the statements are in contrary. 
2) The last line of section 7.9.1 Identification and hard reset sequence
overview states:
(A)   "If a phy does not receive a HARD_RESET primitive sequence or a
valid IDENTIFY address frame within 1 ms of phy reset sequence
completion, it shall restart the phy reset sequence."
But 3rd para of section State description  states:
(B)   "After this state receives an Identify Transmitted message, it
shall initialize and start the Receive Identify Timeout timer."
Does spec. refer to same timer in both the statements. In case they are
same (A) asks to start the timer after phy reset sequence is over while
(B) asks to start the timer after transmitting the Identify Frame. There
will always be overhead or delays related to Identify frame
transmission. Which is the correct implementation. Shall the timer be
started after Frame is transmitted or after phy reset sequence is over.
Please suggest.
Thanks & Best regards
Accelerating designs

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