From Harry.Mason at lsil.com Wed Nov 2 07:22:09 2005 From: Harry.Mason at lsil.com (Mason, Harry) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 08:22:09 -0700 Subject: [STA Members] SAS 6G Dsicussion - Monday November 7th, @ the Driskill Hotel In Austin Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --===============72873806364154237== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5DFC1.30AB4D18" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DFC1.30AB4D18 Content-Type: text/plain Please join us at the Driskill Hotel in Austin, Monday November 7th at 7:00pm for our follow-on SAS 6G discussion. Food and refreshments courtesy of STA Committed presentations: * Restate the market requirements and objective for 6Gb/s SAS - STA, Harry Mason/Marty Czekalski * Transceiver Operation, Start-up Training Sequences - Infineon - Harvey Newman * Long Distance (rack-to-rack) connection options - Solution options that do not burden the primary market served 1. Distance Cabling solutions - Meritec, Ed Cady 2. Transceiver Considerations - Vitesse, TBD 3. Optical Options - Vitesse, TBD * Disk Drive Considerations - Maxtor, Richard Uber * Rate-Matching-Multiplexing - Intel, Bob Sheffield * Server Considerations - HP, Rob Elliott * Summary Comments and conclusions - ALL A recap of any STA conclusions from these discussions will be presented during the STA/T10 Liaison report (Presenters Note: Please limit presentations to 15 minutes; forward a copy of your presentations to clyon at scsita.org by Monday evening) Link to the STA-T10 liaison report from the Vancouver meeting is below. http://www.t10.org/ftp/t10/document.05/05-362r0.pdf Harry Mason Director Industry Marketing 4420 ArrowsWest Dr Colorado Springs, CO 80907 719-533-7547 (office) 719-533-7955 (fax) 719-331-0994 (cell) hmason at lsil.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DFC1.30AB4D18 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Please join us at the Driskill Hotel in Austin, Monday November = 7^th at 7:00pm for our follow-on SAS 6G = discussion.

Food and refreshments courtesy of = STA

Committed presentations:

Restate = the market requirements and objective for 6Gb/s SAS - = STA, Harry Mason/Marty Czekalski
Transceiver Operation, Start-up Training Sequences - = Infineon - Harvey Newman
Long = Distance (rack-to-rack) connection options – = Solution options that do not burden the primary market served =

Distance Cabling solutions – Meritec, = Ed = Cady
Transceiver Considerations – Vitesse, = TBD
Optical = Options – Vitesse, = TBD

Disk = Drive Considerations – Maxtor, Richard = Uber
Rate-Matching-Multiplexing - Intel, Bob = Sheffield

Server Considerations – HP, Rob Elliott
Summary = Comments and conclusions – ALL

A recap of any STA conclusions from these = discussions will be presented during the STA/T10 Liaison report =

(Presenters Note: Please limit presentations to 15 = minutes; forward a copy of your presentations to clyon at scsita.org by Monday evening)

<= /p>

Link to the STA-T10 liaison report from the = Vancouver = meeting is below.

http://www= .t10.org/ftp/t10/document.05/05-362r0.pdf<= /p>

Harry = Mason

Director = Industry Marketing

4420 ArrowsWest = Dr

Colorado = Springs, CO 80907

719-533-7547 = (office)

719-533-7955 = (fax)

719-331-0994 = (cell)

hmason at lsil.com

------_=_NextPart_001_01C5DFC1.30AB4D18-- --===============72873806364154237== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ SCSITA-members mailing list SCSITA-members at scsita.org http://lists.scsita.org/mailman/listinfo/scsita-members --===============72873806364154237==-- From Elliott at hp.com Wed Nov 2 15:51:53 2005 From: Elliott at hp.com (Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 17:51:53 -0600 Subject: SAS-2 multiplexing and wide target port proposals Message-ID: * From the T10 Reflector (t10 at t10.org), posted by: * "Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)" * These proposals are now available on http://www.t10.org/new.htm for discussion in the SAS protocol WG meeting next week: 05-381r0 SAS-2 multiplexing - defines a static multiplexing scheme to better accommodate 3 Gbps disk drives in a 6 Gbps world 05-322r0 SAS-2 Wide SSP target port simultaneous connection rules - defines a way for wide SSP target ports to decide how many simultaneous connections to open back to a wide initiator port (the full meeting agenda is at http://www.t10.org/ftp/t10/sas-agnd.htm) -- Rob Elliott, elliott at hp.com Hewlett-Packard Industry Standard Server Storage Advanced Technology https://ecardfile.com/id/RobElliott * * For T10 Reflector information, send a message with * 'info t10' (no quotes) in the message body to majordomo at t10.org From Yuriy_Greshishchev at pmc-sierra.com Thu Nov 3 10:30:50 2005 From: Yuriy_Greshishchev at pmc-sierra.com (Yuriy Greshishchev) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 10:30:50 -0800 Subject: SAS-2 Channel Models: Molex 6m cable S-param 05-398ro Message-ID: * From the T10 Reflector (t10 at t10.org), posted by: * Yuriy Greshishchev * This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5E0A4.B7390D38 Content-Type: text/plain The S-param data posted in 05-398ro for 6m cable assembly have difficulties in phase extrapolation to DC. While PMC-Sierra was able to resolve this with in house software, we recommend Molex to generate another set of S-parameters. This will allow to use industry wide tools such as Spectre, StatEye, and so on... without producing questionable results in time domain Kind Regards, Yuriy ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5E0A4.B7390D38 Content-Type: text/html

The S-param data posted in 05-398ro for 6m cable assembly have difficulties in phase extrapolation to DC.

While PMC-Sierra was able to resolve this with in house software, we recommend Molex to generate another set of S-parameters.

This will allow to use industry wide tools such as Spectre, StatEye, and so on... without producing questionable results in time domain

Kind Regards,

Yuriy

To MMC members and Mt Fuji Members:

During the MMC meeting this week, we discussed potential incompatibilities = between MMC and ATA. We believe that the potential problems arise from the = fact that ATA specifies certain SCSI level behavior in ATA for ATAPI = devices.

We spoke with Dan Colegrove (T13 chair) and Mark Overby (ATA parallel = interface editor) during our MMC meeting. It was decided that we should = make a proposal to T13 through Mark Overby. I have reviewed revision 0b = or the ATA-APT document (see t13.org) and I have prepared a proposal. I = have attached the WORD document to this e-mail for your review. If you = have any comments please post them to either the T10 reflector or the Mt = Fuji reflector.

Thank you,

Bill McFerrin, MMC chair

"John Geldman"
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11/28/2005 04:02 PM

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Kevin D Butt/Tucson/IBM at IBMUS
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11/28/2005 05:27 PM

To	"John Geldman"
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Subject	Re: Schedule conflict in Scottsdale between T10 Key Management SG & T10 Lock SG

I have already booked for the key management study group and will only be in town long enough for that group. I would NOT support moving that meeting.

Kevin D. Butt
Fibre Channel & SCSI Architect, IBM Tape Firmware,
6TYA, 9000 S. Rita Rd., Tucson, AZ 85744
Tie-line 321; Office: 520-799-5280, Lab: 799-5751, Fax: 799-4138, Email: kdbutt at us.ibm.com

"John Geldman"
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11/28/2005 04:02 PM

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* From the T10 Reflector (t10 at t10.org), posted by: * "John Geldman" * Looking at the schedule for the January meetings, I see that the Key Management and Lock Study Groups are overlapping on Thursday afternoon (1/12). I am interested in both, and suspect that there may be others. I'll bring it up in the Key Management phone call tomorrow. I don't have enough information to suggest a specific compromise, but would be open to working one of these SG's earlier in the week, later in the evening or even forcing Friday as a travel day (a session on Friday morning). John Geldman Sr. OEM Project Manager Lexar Media 47300 Bayside Parkway Fremont, CA 94538 T: 510 580-8715 C: 408 781-0824 E: jgeldman at lexar.com * * For T10 Reflector information, send a message with * 'info t10' (no quotes) in the message body to majordomo at t10.org

--=_alternative 004CA078072570C8_=-- From curtis.stevens at wdc.com Tue Nov 29 08:30:37 2005 From: curtis.stevens at wdc.com (Curtis Stevens) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 08:30:37 -0800 Subject: Schedule conflict in Scottsdale between T10 Key Management SG & T10 Lock SG Message-ID: * From the T10 Reflector (t10 at t10.org), posted by: * "Curtis Stevens" * The USB meeting is next week. I will be talking with the MSC-Locking group about which direction they would like to go. I will have more info on the need for another locking study group at that time. ------------------------------------------------- Curtis E. Stevens 20511 Lake Forest Drive #C-214D Lake Forest, California 92630 Phone: 949-672-7933 Cell: 949-307-5050 E-Mail: Curtis.Stevens at WDC.com Bozone (n.): The substance surrounding stupid people that stops bright ideas |from penetrating. The bozone layer, unfortunately, shows little sign of breaking down in the near future. -----Original Message----- From: owner-t10 at t10.org [mailto:owner-t10 at t10.org] On Behalf Of Mark Overby Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 4:38 PM To: John Geldman; t10 at t10.org Subject: RE: Schedule conflict in Scottsdale between T10 Key Management SG & T10 Lock SG * From the T10 Reflector (t10 at t10.org), posted by: * "Mark Overby" * I believe they were scheduled that way because it was unclear if the lock SG needed to meet again (because the plenary occurred before the lock SG). I believe the consensus was that Curtis Stevens would bring a proposal into CAP for locking and it would be discussed as part of CAP. I'm hoping Curtis will respond to this with his intentions and if the lock SG is actually needed in Jan or not. -----Original Message----- From: owner-t10 at t10.org [mailto:owner-t10 at t10.org] On Behalf Of John Geldman Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:02 PM To: t10 at t10.org Subject: Schedule conflict in Scottsdale between T10 Key Management SG & T10 Lock SG * From the T10 Reflector (t10 at t10.org), posted by: * "John Geldman" * Looking at the schedule for the January meetings, I see that the Key Management and Lock Study Groups are overlapping on Thursday afternoon (1/12). I am interested in both, and suspect that there may be others. I'll bring it up in the Key Management phone call tomorrow. I don't have enough information to suggest a specific compromise, but would be open to working one of these SG's earlier in the week, later in the evening or even forcing Friday as a travel day (a session on Friday morning). John Geldman Sr. OEM Project Manager Lexar Media 47300 Bayside Parkway Fremont, CA 94538 T: 510 580-8715 C: 408 781-0824 E: jgeldman at lexar.com * * For T10 Reflector information, send a message with * 'info t10' (no quotes) in the message body to majordomo at t10.org * * For T10 Reflector information, send a message with * 'info t10' (no quotes) in the message body to majordomo at t10.org * * For T10 Reflector information, send a message with * 'info t10' (no quotes) in the message body to majordomo at t10.org From Gerry.Houlder at seagate.com Tue Nov 29 08:48:56 2005 From: Gerry.Houlder at seagate.com (Gerry.Houlder at seagate.com) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 10:48:56 -0600 Subject: Schedule conflict in Scottsdale between T10 Key Management SG & T10 Lock SG Message-ID: * From the T10 Reflector (t10 at t10.org), posted by: * Gerry.Houlder at seagate.com * I believe a single meeting discussing both subjects is the best way to approach this. We already have 3 different ideas for related functions (Trusted In/ Out command proposal 05-156, Encryption Key proposal 05-446, and Drive Locking idea not yet in writing). I would hope the agenda would set up requirements for these functions and the group could find a way to satisfy all 3 needs with the same commands (with different service actions or whatever to perform the desired functions). This direction would serve the industry's need for standardization. "John Geldman" To Sent by: owner-t10 at t10.org cc No Phone Info Available Subject Schedule conflict in Scottsdale between T10 Key Management SG & T10 11/28/2005 05:02 Lock SG PM * From the T10 Reflector (t10 at t10.org), posted by: * "John Geldman" * Looking at the schedule for the January meetings, I see that the Key Management and Lock Study Groups are overlapping on Thursday afternoon (1/12). I am interested in both, and suspect that there may be others. I'll bring it up in the Key Management phone call tomorrow. I don't have enough information to suggest a specific compromise, but would be open to working one of these SG's earlier in the week, later in the evening or even forcing Friday as a travel day (a session on Friday morning). John Geldman Sr. OEM Project Manager Lexar Media 47300 Bayside Parkway Fremont, CA 94538 T: 510 580-8715 C: 408 781-0824 E: jgeldman at lexar.com * * For T10 Reflector information, send a message with * 'info t10' (no quotes) in the message body to majordomo at t10.org * * For T10 Reflector information, send a message with * 'info t10' (no quotes) in the message body to majordomo at t10.org From Alvin.Cox at seagate.com Tue Nov 29 07:57:16 2005 From: Alvin.Cox at seagate.com (Alvin.Cox at seagate.com) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:57:16 -0600 Subject: SAS PHY WG teleconference, Dec 1, 10 am CST Message-ID: * From the T10 Reflector (t10 at t10.org), posted by: * Alvin.Cox at seagate.com * This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0057832A862570C8_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 DQpTdGlsbCB3YWl0aW5nIG9uIHByaW1hcnkgc3ViamVjdCBkb2N1bWVudCBmcm9tIEtldmluIFdp 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( Per agreement with Alvin) =20 This will give me some much need time to finish it and everyone time review it Wednesday afternoon=20 before the call on Thursday AM. =20 Sincerely =20 Kevin Witt _____ =20 From: owner-t10 at t10.org [mailto:owner-t10 at t10.org] On Behalf Of Alvin.Cox at seagate.com Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 8:57 AM To: t10 at t10.org Subject: SAS PHY WG teleconference, Dec 1, 10 am CST Still waiting on primary subject document from Kevin Witt. Needs to be posted today at the latest for review prior to the call.=20 I want to focus on pure PHY issues rather than protocol (OOB impact of training requirements, etc.)=20 Also need to discuss a time change for December 15 to afternoon rather than morning. I have a conflict with the morning time that cannot be resolved.=20 Agenda:=20 1. PHY specification development draft=20 2. Transmitter pre-emphasis and receiver equalization impact=20 What amount of time is necessary for adjustment convergence to get a good-enough error ratio to continue after "the red line"?=20 Should a closed loop approach be designed to also optimize the transmitter settings?=20 Where does the equalization belong and should it be specified in a particular location?=20 3. Spread spectrum clocking=20 3. Items for additional consideration:=20 3.1 Should a compliant channel specification as in CEI be included?=20 How complicated are reference transmitter and reference receiver? (How many taps, etc.)=20 Can the channel be limited to between separable connectors?=20 Currently using the TCTF at connectors.=20 3.2 Transmitter device specification:=20 1200 mV pk-pk max including pre-emphasis?=20 Minimum transmit voltage? (800 mV minimum used in PMC- Sierra simulations)=20 Rise and fall time requirements=20 Return loss=20 Jitter=20 Pre-emphasis specification?=20 Concerns over transmitter near end specification.=20 3.3 Receiver device specification:=20 Input voltage=20 Return loss=20 Jitter tolerance=20 Noise floor or SNR?=20 >From 05-433r0:=20 6.0 Meeting schedule:=20 Kevin Witt will provide a posting for the development of the 6Gbps PHY specification. It will be posted prior to December 1 for discussion during two conference calls in December as indicated below:=20 Teleconference December 1, 2005 and December 15, 2005 concerning PHY specification for transmitter device and receiver device 10:00 am Central Time:=20 PARTICIPANT INFORMATION:=20 All Participants should use the following information to reach the conference calls:=20 Toll Free Dial in Number: (866) 279-4742=20 International Access/Caller Paid Dial In Number: (309) 229-0118=20 PARTICIPANT CODE: 3243413=20 url: seagate.webex.com (no www)=20 Topic: SAS 6Gbps PHY=20 Date: Thursday, December 1, 2005 and December 15, 2005=20 Time: 10:00 am, Central Standard Time (GMT -06:00, Chicago)=20 Meeting number: 823 657 596=20 Meeting password: 6gigabit=20 Next face-to-face:=20 January 10, 2006 9:00am - 7:00pm=20 Embassy Suites Hotel Phoenix=20 Alvin Cox Seagate Technology, LLC Tel 405-350-7424 Cell 405-206-4809 E-Mail alvin.cox at seagate.com=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5F526.583242BA Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To all, I will have my document posted by Noon MT on = Wednesday Nov=20 30th. ( Per agreement with Alvin) This will give me some much need time to = finish it and=20 everyone time review it Wednesday afternoon before the call on Thursday = AM. Sincerely Kevin Witt From: owner-t10 at t10.org=20 [mailto:owner-t10 at t10.org] On Behalf Of=20 Alvin.Cox at seagate.com Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 = 8:57=20 AM To: t10 at t10.org Subject: SAS PHY WG = teleconference, Dec=20 1, 10 am CST Still waiting on = primary subject=20 document from Kevin Witt. Needs to be posted today at the latest for = review=20 prior to the call. I want = to focus on=20 pure PHY issues rather than protocol (OOB impact of training = requirements,=20 etc.) Also need to discuss = a time change=20 for December 15 to afternoon rather than morning. I have a conflict = with the=20 morning time that cannot be resolved. Agenda: 1. PHY = specification=20 development draft 2. = Transmitter=20 pre-emphasis and receiver equalization impact What amount of time is necessary for adjustment convergence to = get a=20 good-enough error ratio to continue after ;the red = line;? Should a closed loop approach be designed to also = optimize the=20 transmitter settings? Where does = the=20 equalization belong and should it be specified in a particular = location?=20 3. Spread spectrum = clocking=20 3. Items for additional = consideration:=20 3.1 Should a compliant = channel=20 specification as in CEI be included? How=20 complicated are reference transmitter and reference receiver? (How many = taps,=20 etc.) Can the channel be limited = to between=20 separable connectors? Currently = using the=20 TCTF at connectors. 3.2 = =20 Transmitter device specification: 1200 mV=20 pk-pk max including pre-emphasis? Minimum=20 transmit voltage? (800 mV minimum used in PMC- Sierra = simulations)=20 Rise and fall time requirements = Return loss Jitter=20 Pre-emphasis specification? = Concerns over transmitter near end = specification.=20 3.3 Receiver device = specification:=20 Input voltage Return loss Jitter = tolerance=20 Noise floor or SNR? = |From 05-433r0: 6.0=20 Meeting schedule: Kevin Witt will=20 provide a posting for the development of the 6Gbps PHY specification. = It will be=20 posted prior to December 1 for discussion during two conference calls = in=20 December as indicated below: Teleconference December 1, 2005 and December 15, 2005 = concerning PHY=20 specification for transmitter device and receiver device 10:00 am = Central=20 Time: PARTICIPANT=20 INFORMATION: All Participants should use the following information to reach = the=20 conference calls: Toll Free Dial in Number: (866) 279-4742 International = Access/Caller Paid Dial=20 In Number: (309) 229-0118 = PARTICIPANT CODE: 3243413=20 url: seagate.webex.com (no = www)=20 Topic: SAS 6Gbps PHY Date: Thursday, December 1, 2005 and December 15, 2005 = Time: 10:00 am, Central Standard Time (GMT = -06:00, Chicago)=20 Meeting number: 823 657 596 = Meeting password: 6gigabit Next face-to-face: January 10, 2006=20 9:00am ; 7:00pm Embassy = Suites Hotel=20 Phoenix Alvin = Cox Seagate=20 Technology, LLC Tel 405-350-7424 Cell 405-206-4809 E-Mail=20 alvin.cox at seagate.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5F526.583242BA-- From mikeb at bustrace.com Wed Nov 30 11:39:06 2005 From: mikeb at bustrace.com (Mike Berhan) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 11:39:06 -0800 Subject: MMC5 / Mt. Fuji 6 / Incremental Streaming Writable Descriptor Message-ID: * From the T10 Reflector (t10 at t10.org), posted by: * "Mike Berhan" * MMC5 Revision 1i and Mt. Fuji 6 Revision 0.99 define Version 3 of the "Incremental Streaming Writable Feature Descriptor." Both specifications define the feature the same with the exception of byte 6 bit 2. MMC5 defines this as the "TRIO" bit and states: "TRIO provides a way for the Drive to report its support for the Track Resources Information of the READ DISC INFORMATION command and the Open bit of READ TRACK INFORMATION command." Mt. Fuji 6 defines this as the "NWAI" bit and states: "The NWAI bit, when set to 1, shall indicate that Assigned Track information of READ DISC INFORMATION command and Appendable bit of READ TRACK INFORMATION command are available for the current mounted media. This bit may not be set to 1 for CD-R/RW media." Can one or both specifications be updated to use the same acronym and, ideally, use similar wording to describe the feature? Thank you. ------- Mike Berhan busTRACE Technologies 807 Douglas Blvd., Suite 130 Roseville, CA 95678 916.768.3153 phone 916.218.6283 fax http://www.bustrace.com * * For T10 Reflector information, send a message with * 'info t10' (no quotes) in the message body to majordomo at t10.org From lohmeyer at t10.org Wed Nov 30 14:47:53 2005 From: lohmeyer at t10.org (John Lohmeyer) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:47:53 -0700 Subject: T10 Reflector clean up Message-ID: * From the T10 Reflector (t10 at t10.org), posted by: * John Lohmeyer * It is time again to clean up the T10 Reflector. The following addresses have bounced consistently since the last clean up: Addresses removed: henry.kuo at qlogic.com Chengchiang_Loh at adaptec.com ramesh.karnati at patni.com rene.koehnen-wiesemes at morse-techsol.de hazelwood_frank at isus.emc.com eric.r.peterson at verizon.net gpeterson at clariion.com AClarke at attotech.com garjones at cisco.com These people may re-subscribe (hopefully, with a better address) by sending an email to majordomo at t10.org with the following line in the message body: subscribe t10 Regards, John -- John Lohmeyer Email: lohmeyer at t10.org LSI Logic Corp. Voice: +1-719-533-7560 4420 ArrowsWest Dr. Cell: +1-719-338-1642 Colo Spgs, CO 80907 * * For T10 Reflector information, send a message with * 'info t10' (no quotes) in the message body to majordomo at t10.org From robert.l.sheffield at intel.com Wed Nov 30 15:53:40 2005 From: robert.l.sheffield at intel.com (Sheffield, Robert L) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:53:40 -0700 Subject: Reminder: Book reservations for January meeting in Phoenix Message-ID: * From the T10 Reflector (t10 at t10.org), posted by: * "Sheffield, Robert L" * This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5F609.4A688A9F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All,=20 This is a reminder to book your travel and room reservations for the = T10 meeting in January in Phoenix / Paradise Valley. The cutoff date for the room block is December 16th, so you have about two weeks left.=20 Room nite bookings are looking fairly healthy (maybe ~ 70% to date), = but don't put it off til the last minute!=20 The meeting announcement is on the T10 website: http://www.t10.org/ftp/t10/announce/ann-m071.pdf=20 Or you can follow this link directly to the registration page: http://www.b-there.com/arm/t10phx2006=20 See you all in Phoenix!=20 Regards,=20 Bob Sheffield=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5F609.4A688A9F Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reminder: Book reservations for January meeting in = Phoenix All, This is a reminder to book your travel = and room reservations for the T10 meeting in January in Phoenix / = Paradise Valley. The cutoff date for = the room block is December = 16th, so you have about two = weeks left. Room nite bookings are looking fairly = healthy (maybe ~ 70% to date), but don't put it off til the last = minute! The meeting announcement is on the T10 = website: http://www.t10.org/ftp/t10/announce/ann-m071.pdf Or you can follow this link directly = to the registration page: http://www.b-there.com/arm/t10phx2006 See you all in Phoenix! Regards, Bob Sheffield ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5F609.4A688A9F-- From keiji_katata at post.pioneer.co.jp Wed Nov 30 16:21:25 2005 From: keiji_katata at post.pioneer.co.jp (keiji_katata at post.pioneer.co.jp) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 09:21:25 +0900 Subject: MMC5 / Mt. Fuji 6 / Incremental Streaming Writable Descriptor Message-ID: * From the T10 Reflector (t10 at t10.org), posted by: * keiji_katata at post.pioneer.co.jp * Thank you Mike, I understand your comment. Your comment is one of the editorial things. So during Fuji document review time, I would like to ask the Fuji members which name and description is easy to understand. The Fuji document is made by Voting of the members. So editors would try to keep the document as voted. The other hands, Bill the chairman of MMC would like to change the name (and sometimes its description) as he understood. In this case, I understand Bill's opinion. I think the name he made is better than I made in the original proposal. Best regards, Keiji Katata PIONEER CORP. "Mike Berhan" @avc-pioneer.com on 2005/12/01 04:39:06 mtfuji5 at avc-pioneer.com$B$KJV?.$7$F$/$@$5$$(J $BAw?., cc: bcc: $B7oL>(J: MMC5 / Mt. Fuji 6 / Incremental Streaming Writable Descriptor MMC5 Revision 1i and Mt. Fuji 6 Revision 0.99 define Version 3 of the "Incremental Streaming Writable Feature Descriptor." Both specifications define the feature the same with the exception of byte 6 bit 2. MMC5 defines this as the "TRIO" bit and states: "TRIO provides a way for the Drive to report its support for the Track Resources Information of the READ DISC INFORMATION command and the Open bit of READ TRACK INFORMATION command." Mt. Fuji 6 defines this as the "NWAI" bit and states: "The NWAI bit, when set to 1, shall indicate that Assigned Track information of READ DISC INFORMATION command and Appendable bit of READ TRACK INFORMATION command are available for the current mounted media. This bit may not be set to 1 for CD-R/RW media." Can one or both specifications be updated to use the same acronym and, ideally, use similar wording to describe the feature? Thank you. ------- Mike Berhan busTRACE Technologies 807 Douglas Blvd., Suite 130 Roseville, CA 95678 916.768.3153 phone 916.218.6283 fax http://www.bustrace.com * * For T10 Reflector information, send a message with * 'info t10' (no quotes) in the message body to majordomo at t10.org