Draft minutes of T10 Plenary Meeting #55 -- May 8, 2003
John Lohmeyer
lohmeyer at t10.org
Thu May 8 14:03:36 PDT 2003
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InterNational Committee for Information Technology Standards (INCITS)
Doc. No.: T10/03-179r0
Date: May 8, 2003
Reply to: John Lohmeyer
To: T10 Membership
From: Ralph Weber / John Lohmeyer
Subject: Minutes of T10 Plenary Meeting #55 -- May 8, 2003
Nashua, NH
Agenda
1. Opening Remarks
2. Approval of Agenda
3. Attendance and Membership
4. Approval of Minutes - March 2003 Meeting - Dallas, TX (T10/03-124r1)
5. Document Distribution
6. Call for Patents
7. Review of Old Action Items
8. Project Status Reports
8.1 Project Status Summary and INCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]
8.1.1 INCITS Antitrust Guidelines
8.2 SCSI Fibre Channel Protocol - 2 (FCP-2) {Project 1144-D} [Peterson]
8.3 SCSI Architecture Model - 2 (SAM-2) {Project 1157-D} [Weber]
8.4 Object-based Storage Devices Commands (OSD) {Project 1355-D} [Weber]
8.5 SCSI Medium Changer Commands - 2 (SMC-2) {Project 1383-D} [Oetting]
8.6 SCSI Primary Commands - 3 (SPC-3) {Project 1416-D} [Weber]
8.7 SCSI Block Commands - 2 (SBC-2) {Project 1417-D} [Elliott]
8.8 SCSI Stream Commands - 2 (SSC-2) {Project 1434-D} [Peterson]
8.9 SCSI Passive Interconnect Performance (PIP) {Project 1439-D}
[Daggett]
8.10 SCSI Serial Bus Protocol -3 (SBP-3) {Project 1467-D} [Johansson]
8.11 SCSI Signal Modeling - 2 (SSM-2) {Project 1514-D} [Aloisi/Manildi]
8.12 SCSI RDMA Protocol - 2 (SRP-2) {Project 1524-D} [Simpson]
8.13 SCSI Parallel Interface - 5 (SPI-5) {Project 1525-D} [Penokie]
8.14 SCSI Management Server Commands (MSC) {Project 1528-D}
[Penokie/Elliott]
8.15 MultiMedia Command Set - 4 (MMC-4) {Project 1545-D} [McFerrin]
8.16 Automation/Drive Interface - Transport Protocol (ADT) {Project
1557-D} [Entzel]
8.17 Automation/Drive Interface - Commands (ADC) {Project 1558-D}
[Entzel/Wideman]
8.18 SCSI Enclosure Services - 2 (SES-2) {Project 1559-D} [Elliott]
8.19 Fibre Channel Protocol - 3 (FCP-3) {Project 1560-D} [Peterson]
8.20 SCSI Architecture Model - 3 (SAM-3) {Project 1561-D} [Weber]
8.21 Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) {Project 1562-D} [Elliott]
8.22 Serial Attached SCSI - 1.1 (SAS-1.1) {Project 1601-D} [Elliott]
8.23 SCSI Stream Commands - 3 (SSC-3) {Project 1611-D} [Peterson]
9. Old Business
9.1 ANSI INCITS 330-2000 Defect Report (03-021r0) (RBC-A) [Atkinson,
Roberts]
10. New Business
10.1 Actions on Parallel SCSI Working Group Recommendations
10.2 Actions on SAS Working Group Recommendations
10.2.1 SAS PHY recommendations
10.2.2 SAS Protocol recommendations
10.3 Actions on CAP Working Group Recommendations
10.4 Actions on Other Working Group Recommendations
11. ISO/IEC
11.1 ISO/IEC Report (03-182r1) [Robinson]
11.2 ISO/IEC Business [Robinson]
11.2.1 Change SPC-2 ISO/IEC part number from 312 to 452 (03-146r2) [Weber]
12. Liaison Reports
12.1 T11 Liaison Report (03-187r0) [Snively]
12.2 T13 Liaison Report [Colegrove]
12.3 SFF Industry Group [Allan]
12.4 IEEE 1394 [Johansson]
12.5 SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Czekalski]
12.6 IETF SCSI over IP [Black/Robinson]
12.7 SNIA [Cummings]
12.8 SATA II [open]
13. Review of Action Items
14. Meeting Schedule
14.1 Authorization of Working Group Meetings
15. Adjournment
Results of Meeting
1. Opening Remarks
John Lohmeyer, the T10 Chair, called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m.,
Thursday May 8, 2003. He thanked Zane Daggett of Hitachi Cable Manchester for
hosting the meeting.
John said that INCITS subgroup membership forms and the T10 document
subscription forms are available on the meeting disk. He said that people
should use these forms to ensure the INCITS Secretariat has the latest
membership information. These forms should be mailed directly to the INCITS
Secretariat.
As is customary, the people attending introduced themselves and a copy of the
attendance list was circulated. Copies of the draft agenda and general
information on T10 were made available to those attending.
2. Approval of Agenda
No additions/changes were made to the draft agenda.
John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the agenda be approved. In
the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously.
No items were added/revised during the course of the meeting.
3. Attendance and Membership
The membership requirements were reviewed. INCITS rules permit one vote per
organization. An individual from a new organization must attend two out of
three consecutive plenary meetings. He/she may apply for voting membership the
second meeting via a letter to the Chair of T10. The individual may begin
voting at the beginning of his/her second meeting.
To maintain membership, organizations must pay the INCITS Service Fee ($800).
John briefly discussed the mailing fees. Complete pricing information is
contained in the 2003 membership form (available at
ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/mem_form.txt).
There are also minimum attendance requirements to maintain voting membership
on T10. If a member organization fails to attend two of the last three T10
meetings, they are warned that failing to attend the next T10 meeting would
result in their membership being terminated.
The Chair said he had sent letters to 6 people from 2 organizations informing
them that their membership was in jeopardy due to non-attendance (see
03-139r0) and that their membership would be terminated if they did not attend
this meeting. The following organizations were in attendance jeopardy:
General Dynamics
Madison Cable Corp.
All these organizations were present at the meeting.
No organizations joined the committee at this meeting.
The T10 membership during the meeting was 42 organizations unchanged from the
42 member organizations prior to the meeting. Enclosure (1) is the list of the
people present at the meeting and enclosure (2) is the current T10 membership
list.
John Lohmeyer reminded members that failure to vote on two out of the last
three letter ballots also would result in membership jeopardy and then
reported on the status of companies that have not voted on recent letter
ballots:
T10 Letter Ballot Jeopardy Report -- 2003/04/30
Ballot: 03-006r0 03-075r0 03-144r0
Report: 03-007r0 03-076r0 03-145r0
Acronym: SAS SPC-2 NWIP SBP-3
Organization
--------------------------------- ------------ ------------ ------------
Adaptec, Inc. Yes Yes DNV
Amphenol Interconnect Yes DNV Yes
Cisco Systems, Inc. Yes Yes DNV
Emulex DNV Yes Abs
Fujitsu Yes Yes DNV
Honda Connectors Yes Yes DNV
Philips Electronics Yes DNV Yes
Key:
Yes Organization voted Yes
No Organization voted No
Abs Organization voted Abstain
DNV Organization failed to return letter ballot
-- Organization was not a voting member for the letter ballot
(*) Organization is in letter ballot jeopardy
4. Approval of Minutes - March 2003 Meeting - Dallas, TX (T10/03-124r1)
John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the minutes be approved. In
the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously.
5. Document Distribution
Members who have any problems with their mailing subscription should deal
directly with Parthenia Purnell (ppurnell at itic.org) (202) 626-5741. A
subscription form is included on the meeting disk.
John Lohmeyer requested that all documents for the next mailing be in his
hands in electronic format by 10:30 a.m. on Thursday May 15, 2003. Documents
received after this time may go into a subsequent mailing.
John reminded the committee of the requirements for document submission. Since
T10 meets its document retention requirements by preparing mailings, documents
included in the mailing must be suitable for archiving. This means that
native-format and/or Portable Document Format (PDF) electronic originals with
proper identification must be submitted.
People can obtain T10 document numbers and revised T10 document numbers by
filling out a web form at http://www.t10.org/members/. The assigned T10
document number will be sent to the requestor by e-mail. The requestor may
then reply to this email, including the document to be posted as an
attachment. The document will be automatically posted on the T10 web site.
T10 members can complete this entire process using their personal T10
password. John explained that members who do not know their password should
surf to the above URL and click on the "forgot password" link to have their
password sent to them via e-mail.
John noted that non-members can also use the above document number process,
but their requests will require approval by an administrator.
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SCSI Trade Association at:
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There is also a mirror site at:
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The T10 document register is available at:
ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/dr.txt
6. Call for Patents
This is a regular agenda item to identify any potential patent issues with
developing standards and technical reports.
A document is available from ANSI, "Procedures for the Development and
Coordination of American National Standards", at no charge. This document is
also on the WWW at http://www.incits.org/help/ansi_sdo.html. Section 1.2.11
contains the ANSI patent policy. Amy Marasco manages patent issues for ANSI
and can be contacted at amarasco at ansi.org or 212-642-4954. Gene Milligan
prepared a useful "Handy dandy Technical Committee's Patents Guide", which is
available at ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/document.99/99-291r0.pdf.
John Lohmeyer presented a summary of the ANSI patent policy prepared by Gary
Robinson. The summary is also included on the Rules and Procedures (plus
Patent Information) page on the T10 web site.
Cris Simpson reminded the committee that a statement of the Intel patent
policy can be found in T10/01-041r0.
John asked that anyone who knows of other applicable patents to contact him.
There were no responses to the call for patents.
7. Review of Old Action Items
519 Ralph Weber will notify Gary Robinson that the SAM-2 ISO revision can
be found at ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/drafts/sam2/sam2i25.pdf. Carryover
520 John Lohmeyer will notify INCITS that T10 recommends the reaffirmation
of SBC, SMC, SPI-2, SBC-2, SES, the SES amendment, and SSC-2. Complete
521 John Lohmeyer will notify INCITS that T10 has voted to change its name
to 'SCSI storage interfaces'. Complete.
522 Gary Robinson will notify INCITS of the T10 recommendation on 25N842Av.
Complete
523 Gary Robinson will submit 03-083r0 as a NWIP for SSM-2. Complete
524 Gary Robinson will submit 03-084r0 as a NWIP for PIP. Complete
525 Gary Robinson will submit 03-132r0 as a NWIP for SAM-2. Complete
526 John Lohmeyer will inform Jennifer Garner that T10 recommends that JTC
1 TAG nominate Gary S. Robinson as the US candidate for Convener of JTC 1/SC
25/WG 4. Complete
8. Project Status Reports
8.1 Project Status Summary and INCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]
John Lohmeyer said that the current T10 project status summary was included on
the meeting disk and will be included in the mailing as usual.
Bob Davis reported that INCITS is working on policy changes to make INCITS
friendly to the electronic age.
John Lohmeyer noted that the INCITS rules document has been changed from the
SD-2 to the RD-2. He noted that minor changes have been made in the rules as
part of the merging of INCITS and JTC 25.
John Lohmeyer reported that INCITS had received one volunteer to chair T10.
The INCITS letter ballot on appointing the T10 Chair closes May 14th.
8.1.1 INCITS Antitrust Guidelines
All T10 members should be aware of the INCITS antitrust guidelines available
at http://www.incits.org/natrust.htm.
John reminded committee members that all persons present at a T10 meeting is
responsible for identifying potential violations of the antitrust guidelines
and reporting them to the chair. Discussions of the following topics are
considered sensitive:
* Any company's prices or pricing policies;
* Specific R;
* Any company's confidential product, product development or production
strategies;
* Whether certain suppliers or customers will be served;
* Prices paid to input sources; or
* Complaints about individual firms or other actions that might tend to
hinder a competitor in any market.
8.2 SCSI Fibre Channel Protocol - 2 (FCP-2) {Project 1144-D} [Peterson]
John Lohmeyer reported that FCP-2 has been published as ANSI NCITS.350:2003.
He congratulated Dave Peterson and Bob Snively for their hard work on this
standard.
8.3 SCSI Architecture Model - 2 (SAM-2) {Project 1157-D} [Weber]
John Lohmeyer reported that SAM-2 has been published as ANSI INCITS.366:2003.
He congratulated Ralph Weber his hard work on this standard.
8.4 Object-based Storage Devices Commands (OSD) {Project 1355-D} [Weber]
Ralph Weber reported that SNIA OSD group is having trouble reaching consensus
on the security requirements and objecting naming mechanisms to be introduced
in the next OSD revision.
8.5 SCSI Medium Changer Commands - 2 (SMC-2) {Project 1383-D} [Oetting]
In the absence of Erich Oetting, no report was made on the status of SMC-2.
8.6 SCSI Primary Commands - 3 (SPC-3) {Project 1416-D} [Weber]
Ralph Weber reported that revision 13 of SPC-3 will be available in time for
the mailing and will contain all the proposals approved by this meeting as
well as the results of the SPC-3 editing meetings held this week.
Ralph Weber reminded the committee that the target letter ballot date for
SPC-3 is November 2003. He noted that, based on this letter ballot date,
editing review meetings are in progress to ready SPC-3 for letter ballot. He
thanked the SAS working group for relinquishing a half day this week to the
editing review and announced that the review will continue following this
meeting.
The topic to be discussed this month is:
Access Controls
Additional editorial review meetings held during subsequent meeting weeks will
cover the following topics:
Asymmetric logical unit behavior
Protocol specific data
Persistent Reservations Model
Persistent Reservations Commands
Control mode page
8.7 SCSI Block Commands - 2 (SBC-2) {Project 1417-D} [Elliott]
Rob Elliott reported that SBC-2 revision 9 will be uploaded before the next
meeting but not in time for the mailing and will include the power conditions
proposal. In response to a question from Gerry Houlder, Rob reported that no
target date has been set for starting the SBC-2 Letter Ballot.
8.8 SCSI Stream Commands - 2 (SSC-2) {Project 1434-D} [Peterson]
Paul Entzel reported that SSC-2 revision 8g has been posted and will be in the
next mailing. He noted that resolution of the SSC-2 Letter Ballot comments is
nearing completion.
8.9 SCSI Passive Interconnect Performance (PIP) {Project 1439-D} [Daggett]
John Lohmeyer reported that PIP had been approved by INCITS. PIP is on the
agenda for approval by the ANSI Board of Standards Review.
8.10 SCSI Serial Bus Protocol -3 (SBP-3) {Project 1467-D} [Johansson]
Peter Johansson reported that the SBP-3 working group met this week, May 7,
during the T10 meetings in Nashua, NH. The working group endorsed the proposed
Letter Ballot comment resolutions and requested the Editor to prepare SBP-3
Revision 4.0 for submission to INCITS for first Public Review.
On behalf of the SBP-3 working group, Peter Johansson moved that 03-166r1 and
SBP-3 Revision 3b be accepted as resolving the SBP-3 Letter Ballot comments
and that the editor be instructed to prepare SBP-3 Revision 4, containing the
resolution to the letter ballot comments, so that it may be forwarded to
INCITS for processing toward first public review. The motion passed on a vote
of 29:0:0:13=42.
In view of the successful resolution of the SBP-3 Letter Ballot comments,
Peter Johansson requested that his No vote on the Letter Ballot be changed to
a Yes.
Peter Johansson took an action item to prepare SBP-3 revision 4 for forwarding
to first public review. John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward SBP-3 to
INCITS for further processing towards first public review.
8.11 SCSI Signal Modeling - 2 (SSM-2) {Project 1514-D} [Aloisi/Manildi]
John Lohmeyer reported that SSM-2 had been approved by INCITS. SSM-2 is on the
agenda for approval by the ANSI Board of Standards Review.
8.12 SCSI RDMA Protocol - 2 (SRP-2) {Project 1524-D} [Simpson]
Cris Simpson reported that no progress has been SRP-2 this month. Work will
resume again in July.
8.13 SCSI Parallel Interface - 5 (SPI-5) {Project 1525-D} [Penokie]
John Lohmeyer reported that SPI-5 had been approved by INCITS. SPI-5 is on the
agenda for approval by the ANSI Board of Standards Review. George Penokie
reported that the SPI-5 ISO/IEC Letter Ballot began on April 23rd.
8.14 SCSI Management Server Commands (MSC) {Project 1528-D}
[Penokie/Elliott]
George Penokie reported that no progress has been made on MSC. He suggested
that consideration might be given to closing the project later this year.
8.15 MultiMedia Command Set - 4 (MMC-4) {Project 1545-D} [McFerrin]
In the absence of Bill McFerrin, no report was available. John Lohmeyer noted
that the MMC working group will be meeting May 13-14, 2003 in Sunnyvale, CA.
8.16 Automation/Drive Interface - Transport Protocol (ADT) {Project 1557-D}
[Entzel]
Paul Entzel reported on the activities of the ADI working group (minutes in
03-171). He noted that ADC may be ready for Letter Ballot after the July
meeting and ADT after the September meeting.
John Lohmeyer reported that the INCITS letter ballot on closing the ADP
project closed on April 14 and passed as expected.
8.17 Automation/Drive Interface - Commands (ADC) {Project 1558-D}
[Entzel/Wideman]
This topic was covered in item 8.16.
8.18 SCSI Enclosure Services - 2 (SES-2) {Project 1559-D} [Elliott]
Rob Elliott reported that SES-2 revision 3 will be available for the next
meeting but not in time for the mailing and will include all proposals
approved at this meeting.
8.19 Fibre Channel Protocol - 3 (FCP-3) {Project 1560-D} [Peterson]
In the absence of Dave Peterson, no report was available.
8.20 SCSI Architecture Model - 3 (SAM-3) {Project 1561-D} [Weber]
Ralph Weber reported that revision 7 will be available in time for the mailing
and will contain all the changes approved by this meeting.
8.21 Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) {Project 1562-D} [Elliott]
Rob Elliott reported on the activities of the SAS working group (minutes in
03-177r0). He noted that the working group unanimously recommended approving the
SAS letter ballot comments resolution with a formal vote count of 16:0:0.
Rob Elliott moved that 03-055r7 be approved as resolving the letter ballot
comments on SAS and that SAS Rev 04, which incorporates the letter ballot
resolutions, be forwarded to INCITS for further processing toward first public
review. John Lohmeyer seconded the motion. The motion passed 23:0:1:18=42.
The following people requested that their No votes be changed to Yes based on
the successful resolution of the letter ballot comments:
Ralph Weber, Rob Elliott, George Penokie, Cris Simpson, John Lohmeyer, Paul
Entzel, and Gerry Houlder.
George Penokie complimented Rob Elliott on the expeditious completion of SAS,
noting the size of the working draft, the over 2,700 letter ballot comments,
and 23 revisions prepared in less than a year. The committee applauded Rob's
efforts.
Rob Elliott took an action item to prepare SAS revision 4 for forwarding to
first public review. John Lohmeyer took an action item to contact Microsoft
Corporation regarding the disposition of their No vote on the SAS letter
ballot. John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward SAS revision 4 to INCITS
for processing toward first public review.
8.22 Serial Attached SCSI - 1.1 (SAS-1.1) {Project 1601-D} [Elliott]
Rob Elliott reported that some initial work on SAS-1.1 was done at the SAS
Protocol working group (minutes in 03-177r0).
8.23 SCSI Stream Commands - 3 (SSC-3) {Project 1611-D} [Peterson]
In the absence of Dave Peterson, no report was available.
9. Old Business
9.1 ANSI INCITS 330-2000 Defect Report (03-021r0) (RBC-A) [Atkinson, Roberts]
John Lohmeyer reported that a letter ballot on the RBC amendment will begin
Friday morning.
10. New Business
10.1 Actions on Parallel SCSI Working Group Recommendations
Because the Parallel SCSI working group did not meet this week, no
recommendations required consideration at this meeting.
10.2 Actions on SAS Working Group Recommendations
10.2.1 SAS PHY recommendations
Because the SAS PHY working group did not meet this week, no recommendations
required consideration at this meeting.
10.2.2 SAS Protocol recommendations
George Penokie noted that the only recommendation from the SAS Protocol
working group concerned the SAS letter ballot comments resolution processed
under item 8.21.
10.3 Actions on CAP Working Group Recommendations
George Penokie reviewed the content of proposal 02-464r3 (SAM-3, SPC-3, and
SBC power conditions proposal) recommended for inclusion in SAM-3, SPC-3, and
SBC-2.
Mark Evans moved that 02-464r3 (SAM-3, SPC-3, and SBC power conditions
proposal) be approved for inclusion in SAM-3, SPC-3, and SBC-2. Bill Galloway
seconded the motion. In the absence of objections, the motion passed
unanimously.
George Penokie reviewed the following proposals recommended for inclusion in
SAM-3:
03-003r2 Remove ULP and LLP from SAM-3 [Weber]
03-108r2 Calls and Arguments in SAM-3 [Weber]
03-173r0 Task Management Incorrect Logical Unit Selection [Weber]
03-184r1 SAM-3 Hard reset generates I_T nexus loss [Elliott]
Ralph Weber moved that 03-003r2, 03-108r2, 03-173r0, and 03-184r1 be approved
for inclusion in SAM-3. Mark Evans seconded the motion. The motion passed on a
vote of 26:0:0:16=42.
George Penokie reviewed the following proposals recommended for inclusion in
SPC-3:
03-094r3 Yet More Persistent Reservation Fixes [Penokie]
03-127r1 SPC-3 MSB and LSB labels [Elliott]
03-172r1 QErr=01b 03-169r1 SPC-3: Un-hiding S.M.A.R.T. [Lohmeyer]
Mark Evans moved that 03-094r3, 03-127r1, 03-172r1, and 03-169r1 be approved
for inclusion in SPC-3. Bill Galloway seconded the motion. The motion passed
on a vote of 25:0:1:16=42.
George Penokie reviewed the content of proposal 03-059r1 (SES-2
Enclosure/Array Control Device Element for device activity) recommended for
inclusion in SES-2.
Mark Evans moved that 03-059r1 (SES-2 Enclosure/Array Control Device Element
for device activity) be approved for inclusion in SAM-3, SPC-3, and SBC-2.
Bill Galloway seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of
24:0:2:16=42.
Ralph Weber moved that SAM-3 revision 7 be accepted as a committee draft. Mark
Evans seconded the motion. The motion passed 26:0:0:16=42.
10.4 Actions on Other Working Group Recommendations
No recommendations from other working groups were brought to this meeting.
11. ISO/IEC
11.1 ISO/IEC Report (03-182r1) [Robinson]
Gary Robinson provided an electronic report in 03-182r1.
11.2 ISO/IEC Business [Robinson]
11.2.1 Change SPC-2 ISO/IEC part number from 312 to 452 (03-146r2) [Weber]
Ralph Weber announced that he had published a `score card' of ISO/IEC part
numbers being used for T10 standards (see 03-146r2).
Since none of the SPC standards have actually been published at ISO/IEC so
far, he is proposing that the SPC series of standards be moved to the 45x
range of numbers, which fits better with the architectural nature of these
standards. In particular, he has requested that SPC-2 be assigned 452 instead
of 312.
Since the IR and the SC 25 Secretariat agreed that Ralph's proposed change in
numbering is a good idea, they have agreed to implement Ralph's proposed
change. The IR and the SC 25 Secretariat have also appointed Ralph as the
`keeper of the part numbers'.
12. Liaison Reports
12.1 T11 Liaison Report (03-187r0) [Snively]
In the absence of Bob Snively, Roger Cummings presented the T11 liaison report
contained in T10/03-187r0.
12.2 T13 Liaison Report [Colegrove]
Dan Colegrove was unable to attend but provided an electronic report contained
in T10/03-188r0.
12.3 SFF Industry Group [Allan]
In the absence of Dal Allan, Vit Novak reported that two SSWG meetings and a
plenary meeting were held. One SSWG was on single voltage drives the other was
on cable labeling.
12.4 IEEE 1394 [Johansson]
Peter Johansson reported IEEE 1394 activities and provided the following
electronic report for the minutes.
The Ballot Response Committee (BRC) for IEEE P1394.1, High Performance Serial
Bus Bridges, has resolved, in principal, all of the comments received during
Sponsor Ballot. The Editor is incorporating the agreed changes in anticipation
of a recirculation ballot this year, with projected approval as an IEEE
standard in 2003. Contact the Chair, Peter Johansson (PJohansson at ACM.org), for
details.
IEEE P1394.3, Peer to Peer Data Transport, a protocol built upon SBP-2,
commenced a 10-day recirculation ballot May 10. The Vice Chair, Alan Berkema
(Alan_Berkema at HP.com), anticipates its approval as an IEEE standard this
summer.
The IEEE S800BASE-T study group continues to investigate methods of running
IEEE 1394 over up to 100 meters of UTP-5 by leveraging existing gigabit
Ethernet PHY technology. They are pursuing a very aggressive schedule and plan
to hand over the work to the IEEE P1394 revision working group for
incorporation in the revised IEEE 1394 base standard. The STDS-1394 at IEEE.org
reflector is used for S800BASE-T discussions. Contact the study group Chair,
Michael Teener (Teener at Apple.com), for details.
The 1394 Trade Association Wireless working group is developing "protocol
adaptation layers" (PALs) to enable IEEE 1394 applications to interoperate
with like applications in both IEEE P802.11e and IEEE P802.15.3 devices. Some
of the work is active in the IEEE P802.11e (quality of service) working group.
The 802.15.3 PAL project is investigating the use of ultra-wide band (UWB)
technologies for wireless 1394. Contact the working group Chair, John Fuller
(JFuller at Computer.org) or the PAL Project Editors, Takashi Sato
(T.Sato at Philips.com) and Peter Johansson (PJohansson at ACM.org), for details.
12.5 SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Czekalski]
Marty Czekalski provided an electronic report on the activities of the SCSI
Trade Association that can be found in 03-191r0.
12.6 IETF SCSI over IP [Black/Robinson]
In the absence of David Black, no report was available.
12.7 SNIA [Cummings]
Roger Cummings reported on the activities of SNIA and provided an electronic
report in T11/03-213v0.
12.8 SATA II [open]
John Lohmeyer reported that he had attended part of the SATA II Steering
Committee meeting on April 29th. The group requested that T10 identify
liaisons to the SATA II focus groups. The SATA II PHY group has several
members who also participate on the SAS PHY working group. John Lohmeyer moved
that Alvin Cox be named the T10 liaison to the SATA II PHY group. Mark Evans
seconded the motion. The motion passed 26:0:0:16=42.
John Lohmeyer took an action item to notify SATA II that Alvin Cox will be the
T10 liaison to the SATA II PHY group.
John asked for volunteers to serve as T10 liaison to the SATA II Protocol
group and for volunteers to serve as the SATA II liaison to T10.
13. Review of Action Items
519 Ralph Weber will notify Gary Robinson that the SAM-2 ISO revision can
be found at ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/drafts/sam2/sam2i25.pdf.
527 Peter Johansson will prepare SBP-3 revision 4 for forwarding to first
public review.
528 John Lohmeyer will forward SBP-3 to INCITS for further processing
towards first public review.
529 Rob Elliott will prepare SAS revision 4 for forwarding to first public
review.
530 John Lohmeyer will contact Microsoft Corporation regarding the
disposition of their No vote on the SAS letter ballot.
531 John Lohmeyer will forward SAS revision 4 to INCITS for processing
toward first public review.
532 John Lohmeyer will notify SATA II that Alvin Cox will be the T10
liaison to the SATA II PHY group.
14. Meeting Schedule
The next plenary meeting of T10 will be Thursday July 10, 2003 in Colorado
Springs, CO at the Wyndham Colorado Springs Hotel (719-260-1800), hosted by
LSI Logic Corp. The meeting will begin at 9:00 a.m. on Thursday.
The meeting list for the next plenary week is:
July 2003 Meeting Map
(2003/05/08 Version)
Monday 7/07 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+===============+=======================+
| FCP-3 WG? | SMC-2 / ADI WG | (15)
+===============+=+=====================+
| SAS Protocol WG | (40)
+===============+=+=====================+
| SPC-3 Editing | (10)
+===============+
Tuesday 7/08 8 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+=================+=================+
| SAS Protocol WG | SCSI CAP WG | (40)
+=================+=============+===+
| ADI WG | (15)
+===============================+---+
| T11 Ad hocs | (15)
+-------------------+---------------+---+
| STA Plugfest Mtg | STA (closed mtg) | (20)
+-------------------+-----------------+-+-----+
LSI Reception --> | Party | (All)
+-------+
Wednesday 7/09 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
+==========================================+
| SCSI Commands, Arch., +===============================+==========+
| MMC WG | (10)
+=======================+=======+---------------+
|SFF: SSWG / 8425 | (20)
+-------------------------+---+-------------------+
| STA (closed meeting) | (20)
+-----------------------------+
Thursday 7/10 8 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+=================+
| T10 Plenary | (45)
+=================+=================+
| SPC-3 Editing | (10)
+-----------------+=================+
| FCIA Board Meeting (closed mtg) | (10)
+-----------------------------------+
Friday 7/11 8 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
no meetings planned for Friday
Meetings marked with == are T10-authorized meetings.
Meetings marked with -- are other groups and may change without notice.
Other T10-authorized meetings:
Meeting Date Location / Contact
-------------- ------------------ --------------------------------------
ADI Calls Bi-weekly To be announced via T10 reflector
SAS Prot Calls To be announced via T10 reflector
SAS PHY Calls To be announced via T10 reflector
Map Abbreviation Key:
ADI: Automation Drive Interface (tape library interface)
Amnd: Amendment
CAP: Commands, Architecture, and Protocols
Fast-80: Data Transfer at 80 Mega-transfers/sec. (a.k.a., Ultra3,Ultra160)
Fast-160: Data Transfer at 160 Mega-transfers/sec. (a.k.a., Ultra320)
FC: Fibre Channel
I/F: Interface
IETF: Internet Engineering Task Force (the group that sets
Internet standards)
iFC: Internet Fibre Channel
IPS: Internet Protocol SCSI
iSCSI: Internet SCSI
LB: Letter Ballot
MMC: Multimedia Commands (CD-ROM, DVD, etc.)
OSD: Object-based Storage Device
Par.: Parallel (e.g., SPI-n)
PH or PHY: Physical (Connectors, Cables, Transceivers, etc.)
PIP: (SCSI) Passive Interconnect Performance
Plenary: Full Committee Meeting
Res: Resolution
SAS: Serial Attached SCSI
SBC-2: SCSI Block Commands - 2
SBP-3: Serial Bus Protocol - 3
SCSI: Small Computer System Interface
SES: SCSI Enclosure Services
SFF: SFF Industry Group (not an INCITS activity)
SG: Study Group
SMC-2: SCSI Medium Changer - 2 Commands
SPC-3: SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (3rd generation)
SPI-4: Fourth Generation SCSI Parallel Interface
SPI-5: Fifth Generation SCSI Parallel Interface
SRP: SCSI RDMA Protocol (was SVP)
SRP-2: SCSI RDMA Protocol (2nd generation)
SSC-2: SCSI Stream Commands - 2 (includes Tape)
SSM-2: SCSI Signal Modeling (2nd generation)
SSWGs: Specific-Subject Working Groups
STA: SCSI Trade Association (Closed meeting -- not an INCITS activity)
STA Marcom: STA Marketing Communications (Closed meeting -- not an INCITS
activity)
STA Tech: STA Technical Meeting (T10 members invited)
STP: Serial ATA Tunneled Protocol
T10: Lower Level Interfaces Technical Committee
T11: Device Level Interfaces Technical Committee
WG: Working Group (same as Ad Hoc Group)
For more information about T10 activities, please contact the following
people:
Activity Contact Telephone/Email
---------------------------- --------------- ------------------------------
ADT Paul Entzel (720) 406-5782
paul.entzel at quantum.com
ADC Rod Wideman (720) 249-5796
rod.wideman at adic.com
PIP, PIP-2 Zane Daggett (603) 669-4347 x236
zdaggett at hcm.hitachi.com
SBC-2, SES-2, SAS Rob Elliott (281) 518-5037
Elliott at hp.com
MMC-2, MMC-3, MMC-4 Bill McFerrin (303) 651-5400
bmcferrin at aol.com
SBP-2, SBP-3 Peter Johansson (510) 527-3926
PJohansson at ACM.org
SCC-2, SPI-4, SPI-5, MSC George Penokie (507) 253-5208
gpenokie at tivoli.com
SMC, SMC-2 Erich Oetting (303) 673-2178
Erich_Oetting at Stortek.com
SPC-3, SAM-2, SAM-3, OSD Ralph Weber (214) 912-1373
roweber at acm.org
SSC, SSC-2, FCP-2, FCP-3 Dave Peterson (612) 802-3299
dap at cisco.com
SRP, SRP-2 Cris Simpson (503) 712-4333
cris.simpson at intel.com
SSM-2 Paul Aloisi (603) 222-8687
paul_aloisi at ti.com
Other Activities John Lohmeyer (719) 533-7560
lohmeyer at t10.org
The long-term T10 meeting week schedule is:
Date Location Host/Comments
------------------ ------------------------- -----------------------------
Sep 8-12, 2003 Seattle, WA Microsoft
Nov 3-7, 2003 Austin, TX Crossroads
Jan 12-16, 2004 Chandler, AZ Intel
Mar 8-12, 2004 Dana Point, CA QLogic
May 3-7, 2004 Toronto, Montreal, or Ottawa Brocade
Jul 12-16, 2004 Colorado Springs, CO LSI Logic
Sep 13-17, 2004 Nashua, NH Hitachi Cable
Nov 8-12, 2004 Austin, TX Crossroads
Approved 2005 dates:
Jan 17-21, 2005
Mar 7-11, 2005
May 2-6, 2005
Jul 11-15, 2005
Sep 12-16, 2005
Nov 7-11, 2005
John Lohmeyer moved that T10 authorize the March 2004 meeting week to be
hosted by QLogic in Dana Point, CA and the September 2004 meeting week to be
hosted by Hitachi Cable in Nashua, NH. Bill Galloway seconded the motion. In
the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously.
14.1 Authorization of Working Group Meetings
John noted that the working group meetings are required to operate under the
same voting procedures as does T10 (that is, one vote per organization) and
the results of a working group are not binding on the parent committee. Ad hoc
groups should strive to achieve consensus prior to bringing issues to T10.
Peter Johansson moved that T10 authorize the T10-related meetings and events
in the list above that had not previously been approved through the end of
August 2003. Bill Galloway seconded the motion. In the absence of any
objections, the motion passed unanimously.
15. Adjournment
John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the meeting be adjourned. In
the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously. The meeting was
adjourned at 10:45 a.m. on Thursday May 8, 2003.
Enclosure(1) -- Meeting Attendees
Name S Organization Electronic Mail Address
---------------------- -- ------------------------- -------------------------
Mr. Ron Roberts P Adaptec, Inc. rkroberts at aol.com
Ms. Pat Thaler V Agilent Technologies pat_thaler at agilent.com
Mr. Michael Wingard P Amphenol Interconnect mikwingard at aol.com
Dr. Claudio DeSanti P Andiamo Systems, Inc. cds at andiamo.com
Mr. Peter Johansson P Congruent Software, Inc. PJohansson at ACM.org
Mr. John Tyndall A Crossroads Systems, Inc. jtyndall at crossroads.com
Mr. Titkwan Hui A Dallas Semiconductor tk.hui at dalsemi.com
Mr. Robert H. Nixon P Emulex bob.nixon at emulex.com
Mr. Ralph O. Weber P ENDL Texas roweber at acm.org
Mr. Douglas Wagner P FCI dwagner at fciconnect.com
Mr. Mike Fitzpatrick P Fujitsu mfitzpatrick at fcpa.
fujitsu.com
Mr. Nathan Hastad P General Dynamics nathan.hastad at gd-ais.com
Mr. Rob Elliott P Hewlett Packard Co. Elliott at hp.com
Mr. Werner Glinka AV Hitachi America werner.glinka at attglobal.
net
Mr. Zane Daggett P Hitachi Cable Manchester zdaggett at hcm.hitachi.com
Mr. George O. Penokie P IBM / Tivoli Systems gop at us.ibm.com
Mr. Cris Simpson P Intel Corp. cris.simpson at intel.com
Mr. John Lohmeyer P LSI Logic Corp. lohmeyer at t10.org
Ms. Jie Fan P Madison Cable Corp. jie.fan at madisoncable.com
Mr. Mark Evans P Maxtor Corp. mark_evans at maxtor.com
Mr. Jay Neer P Molex Inc. jneer at molex.com
Mr. James R. (Bob) P Network Appliance Inc. bob at netapp.com
Davis
Mr. Edward A. Gardner AV Ophidian Designs eag at ophidian.com
Mr. Bill Galloway P Pivot3, Inc. billg at pivot3.com
Mr. Craig W. Carlson A# QLogic Corp. craig.carlson at qlogic.com
Mr. Paul Entzel P Quantum Corp. paul.entzel at quantum.com
Mr. Gerald Houlder P Seagate Technology gerry.houlder at seagate.com
Mr. Vit Novak P Sun Microsystems, Inc. vit.novak at sun.com
Mr. Paul D. Aloisi P Texas Instruments Paul_Aloisi at ti.com
Mr. Robert Kando A. Texas Instruments Robert_Kando at ti.com
Mr. Hiroshi Suzuki P Toshiba hiroshi.suzuki at tais.
toshiba.com
Mr. Ron Mathews P UNISYS Corporation ronald.mathews at unisys.com
Mr. Roger Cummings P Veritas Software roger.cummings at veritas.
com
Mr. Kenneth Hirata P Vixel Corp. Ken.Hirata at Vixel.com
34 People Present
Status Key: P - Principal
A,A# - Alternate
AV - Advisory Member
L - Liaison
V - Visitor
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