READ_TRACK command clarification

Henry Gabryjelski henrygab at windows.microsoft.com
Thu Apr 17 10:11:10 PDT 2003


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(NOTE: this is presuming a Method2 capable drive.)
So, I would then think the full TOC for this disc would be:
TRK 01 IDX 00  00:00:00   (    150) // pregap (includes runin)
TRK 01 IDX 01  00:02:00   (  1,244) // 1,248 - runin blocks
TRK 02 IDX 00  00:16:44   (    150) // pregap (includes runin)
TRK 02 IDX 01  00:18:44   (  2,058) // 2,062 - runin blocks
TRK 03 IDX 00  00:46:02   (    150) // pregap (includes runin)
TRK 03 IDX 01  00:48:02   (  2,492) // 2,496 - runin blocks
TRK AA IDX 01  01:21:19

Would the resulting LBA ranges would then be (A):
  TRK 01:     0..1,023  (hiding the link/runin/runout blocks)
? TRK 02: 1,024..3,081  (pregap excluded from LBA space?)
  TRK 03: 3,082..5,129  (hiding the link/runin/runout blocks)

Or would they then be (B):
  TRK 01:     0..1,023  (hiding the link/runin/runout blocks)
? TRK 02: 1,024..3,231  (pregap included in LBA space?)
  TRK 03: 3,232..5,279  (hiding the link/runin/runout blocks)

Would the correct implementation of READ_CAPACITY show an LBA of:
(A) 5,129
(B) 5,279
Or would it use the "simple MSF-to-LBA translation of track 0xAA and just
return:
(C) 5,942

My guess is that the "correct" implementation per literal reading of the
specification would be either (A) or (B) (I haven't checked if gap is
included in LBA space in Method2 addressing).  However, I think that most
drive implementations would return (C) or (C+2) (not removing runout
blocks).

Do method2 drives really support this level of addressing complexity?  Or,
have I misunderstood method2 addressing to be restricted only to CD-RW
discs, with a single track with fixed packet setting (formatted as fixed
packet)?

Thanks,
.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bmcferrin at aol.com [mailto:Bmcferrin at aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:19 AM
To: Henry Gabryjelski; mtfuji5 at avc-pioneer.com; T10 at t10.org

Henry,
It is media and format dependent.




	(A) For the READ_TRACK_INFORMATION command, it is possible to specify the
	track using LBA (Type == 0 in CDB).  For fixed-packet CD media, is this
	LBA using Method 1 or Method 2 addressing mode?  This is not clear in
	Fuji5 nor MMC3 are clear on this matter.  What are current
implementations
	doing in this case?




LBA translation is defined in OB.  For CD-MRW DMA, method 3 should be
used.  For CD-MRW GAA and for non-MRW fixed packet, method 2 is used.  For
all other CD media formats, method 1 is used.



	(B) On a related note (m1 vs m2), how are current implementations
handling
	method 2 addressing on the following type of disc:

	Single session:
	Track #1 == Fixed Packet, 0x20 packets (0x20*0x27 sectors)
	Track #2 == Variable Packet, two packets of 0x400 sectors
	Track #3 == Fixed Packet, 0x40 packets (0x20*0x27 sectors)

	Specifically,
	(B.1) What is returned for READ_CAPACITY data?
	(B.2) Is the run-in for Track 2 Packet #1 hidden from LBA space?
	(B.3) Is the run-out for Track 2 Packet #2 hidden from LBA space?




LBAs are translated by location AND recording type.  So, if you know the
starting LBA of a track and the recording type of the track, then you know
progression of LBAs.  MRW is a special case that always reports track #1,
but gives different numbers based upon the LBA space selected.  Let us not
consider that case.
When a track is fixed packet, it should be translated according to method
2 - regardless of mode.  All other recording types are linear
translations.

Your example appears to be some sort of test disc that has no particular
practical value, but...

B.1: READ CAPACITY is mostly useless on CD - except for MRW.  READ
CAPACITY should return the last lead-out start address - 1 with a
tolerance of 2 seconds.  Sorry.  If the last track is data rather than
audio, the LBA reported should match the physical location that is
reported as track stop address in the PMA entry for that track.  The
tolerance should be 2.

B.2 In the case of either fixed or variable, the link and run-ins of the
first packet are in the track pre-gap.  The address (MSF or LBA) reported
as track start address is the first data sector of the packet...so, yes.

B.3 Variable packet address translations are always method 1...so, no.


How's that?
Bill McFerrin


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