Draft Minutes T10 Plenary Meeting - January 17,2002

John Lohmeyer lohmeyer at t10.org
Mon Jan 21 18:19:09 PST 2002


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InterNational Committee for Information Technology Standards (INCITS)

                                                    Doc. No.: T10/02-029r0
                                                        Date: January 21, 
2002
                                                    Reply to: John Lohmeyer

To:       T10 Membership
From:     Ralph Weber / John Lohmeyer
Subject:  Minutes of T10 Plenary Meeting #47 -- January 17, 2002
           Houston, TX
Agenda

1.     Opening Remarks
2.     Approval of Agenda
3.     Attendance and Membership
4.     Approval of Minutes - November 2001 Meeting - Seaside, CA
(T10/01-324r0)
5.     Document Distribution
6.     Call for Patents
6.1      Crossroads 5,941,972 Patent Letter (02-033) [Griswold]
7.     Review of Old Action Items
8.     Project Status Reports
8.1      Project Status Summary and INCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]
8.2      SCSI Fibre Channel Protocol - 2 (FCP-2) {Project 1144-D} [Snively]
8.3      SCSI Architecture Model - 2 (SAM-2) {Project 1157-D} [Weber]
8.4      SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (SPC-2) Status {Project 1236-D} [Weber]
8.5      MultiMedia Command Set - 3 (MMC-3) {Project 1363-D} [McFerrin]
8.6      SCSI Parallel Interface - 4 (SPI-4) {Project 1365-D} [Penokie]
8.7      SCSI Domain Validation Technical Report (SDV) {Project 1378-DT}
[Gibbons]
8.8      SCSI on Scheduled Transfer (SST) {Project 1380-D} []
8.9      SCSI Medium Changer Commands - 2 (SMC-2) {Project 1383-D} [Oetting]
8.10     SCSI Signal Modeling (SSM) {Project 1414-DT} [Aloisi]
8.11     SCSI RDMA Protocol (SRP) {Project 1415-D} [Gardner]
8.12     SCSI Primary Commands - 3 (SPC-3) {Project 1416-D} [Weber]
8.13     SCSI Block Commands - 2 (SBC-2) {Project 1417-D} [Elliott]
8.14     Object-based Storage Devices Commands (OSD) {Project 1355-D} [Weber]
8.15     SCSI Stream Commands - 2 (SSC-2) {Project 1434-D} [Peterson]
8.16     SCSI Passive Interconnect Performance (PIP) {Project 1439-D}
[Daggett]
8.17     SCSI Serial Bus Protocol -3 (SBP-3) {Project 1467-D} [Johansson]
8.18     SCSI Signal Modeling - 2 (SSM-2) {Project 1514-D} [Aloisi]
8.19     SCSI RDMA Protocol - 2 (SRP-2) {Project 1524-D} [Simpson]
8.20     SCSI Parallel Interface - 5 (SPI-5) {Project 1525-D} [Penokie]
8.21     SCSI Management Server Commands (MSC) {Project 1528-D}
[Penokie/Elliott]
9.     Old Business
9.1      Style Guide [Moore]
9.2      Project Proposal for an RBC-2 Standard (01-098) [Roberts]
9.3      Project Proposal for a SCSI Parallel Interface - 6 (SPI-6) Standard
(01-145) [Lohmeyer]
9.4      A/V Direct-Access Project Proposal (01-337) [Johannson]
10.    New Business
10.1     Results of letter ballot 01-350 on forwarding SSC-2 to 1PR (01-351)
[Peterson]
10.2     Actions on Parallel SCSI Working Group Recommendations
10.2.1     Duplicate Tag ASC Correction in SPI-4 (02-034r1) [Penokie]
10.3     Actions on CAP Working Group Recommendations
10.3.1     Names, Addresses, Identifiers, Oh my! (01-084r6) [Penokie]
10.3.2     SMC-2 INITIALIZE ELEMENT STATUS WITH RANGE command (01-308r2)
[Elliott]
10.3.3     SBC-2 Long LBA PMI support for READ CAPACITY (01-246r1) [Elliott]
10.3.4     SPC-3 SBC-2 SSC-2 sense data changes (01-199r3) [Elliott]
10.3.5     Assign ASC/ASCQ 14h/07h to LOCATE OPERATION FAILURE for tapes
[Weber]
10.3.6     SPC-3 sense data size limit (02-017r0) [Elliott]
10.3.7     SPC-3 Unit Attention interlock and Asynchronous Event Reporting
(02-025r0) [Elliott]
10.3.8     SPC-3 REQUEST SENSE during pending-enrolled state (02-026r1)
[Elliott]
10.3.9     SPC-3 TST field description (02-016r1) [Elliott]
10.3.10      SPC-3 Letting persistent reservations ignore target ports
(01-099r6) [Elliott]
10.3.11      Report Supported Operation Codes Command (01-253r3) [Penokie]
10.3.12      Proposal for an additional Persistent Reservations Type in SPC-3
(01-204r2) [Cummings]
10.4     Actions on Other Working Group Recommendations
10.4.1     Project proposal for ADI Physical Layer (ADP) (02-010) [Suhler]
10.4.2     Project proposal for ADI Transport Protocol (ADT) (02-009) 
[Suhler]
10.4.3     Project proposal for ADI Commands (ADC) (02-008) [Suhler]
11.    ISO/IEC
11.1     ISO/IEC Report [Robinson]
11.2     ISO/IEC Business [Robinson]
11.2.1     ISO/IEC SPI-4 [Penokie]
12.    Liaison Reports
12.1     T11 Liaison Report [Snively]
12.2     T13 Liaison Report [Colegrove]
12.3     SFF Industry Group [Allan]
12.4     IEEE 1394 [Johansson]
12.5     SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Jones/Aloisi]
12.6     IETF SCSI over IP [Black/Robinson]
12.7     INCITS H2 (Database Languages) [Hare]
13.    Review of Action Items
14.    Meeting Schedule
14.1       Authorization of Working Group Meetings
14.2       SBP-3 Tentative Meeting Schedule
15.    Adjournment


Results of Meeting


1.     Opening Remarks

John Lohmeyer, the T10 Chair, called the meeting to order at 9:10 a.m.,
Thursday January 17, 2002. He thanked Rob Elliott of Compaq for hosting the
meeting.

John announced that this would be Ken Moe's last T10 meeting as he is 
retiring
|from Sun Microsystems. He thanked Ken for his many contributions to the
standards process over his career.

John said that INCITS Subgroup Membership forms and the T10 Mailing
Subscription form were available from the head table. He said that people
should use the INCITS forms to insure the INCITS Secretariat has the latest
membership information. These forms should be mailed directly to the INCITS
Secretariat.

As is customary, the people attending introduced themselves and a copy of the
attendance list was circulated. Copies of the draft agenda and general
information on T10 were made available to those attending.


2.     Approval of Agenda

The draft agenda was approved with the following additions/changes:

6.1      Crossroads 5,941,972 Patent Letter (02-033) [Griswold]
8.1      Project Status Summary and INCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]
10.2.1     Duplicate Tag ASC Correction in SPI-4 (02-034r1) [Penokie]
10.3.1     Names, Addresses, Identifiers, Oh my! (01-084r6) [Penokie]
10.3.2     SMC-2 INITIALIZE ELEMENT STATUS WITH RANGE command (01-308r2)
[Elliott]
10.3.3     SBC-2 Long LBA PMI support for READ CAPACITY (01-246r1) [Elliott]
10.3.4     SPC-3 SBC-2 SSC-2 sense data changes (01-199r3) [Elliott]
10.3.5     Assign ASC/ASCQ 14h/07h to LOCATE OPERATION FAILURE for tapes
[Weber]
10.3.6     SPC-3 sense data size limit (02-017r0) [Elliott]
10.3.7     SPC-3 Unit Attention interlock and Asynchronous Event Reporting
(02-025r0) [Elliott]
10.3.8     SPC-3 REQUEST SENSE during pending-enrolled state (02-026r1)
[Elliott]
10.3.9     SPC-3 TST field description (02-016r1) [Elliott]
10.3.10      SPC-3 Letting persistent reservations ignore target ports
(01-099r6) [Elliott]
10.3.11      Report Supported Operation Codes Command (01-253r3) [Penokie]
10.3.12      Proposal for an additional Persistent Reservations Type in SPC-3
(01-204r2) [Cummings]
10.4.1     Project proposal for ADI Physical Layer (ADP) (02-010) [Suhler]
10.4.2     Project proposal for ADI Transport Protocol (ADT) (02-009) 
[Suhler]
10.4.3     Project proposal for ADI Commands (ADC) (02-008) [Suhler]
12.7     INCITS H2 (Database Languages) [Hare]

The following agenda items were added/revised during the course of the
meeting:

11.2.1     ISO/IEC SPI-4 [Penokie]


3.     Attendance and Membership

The membership requirements were reviewed. INCITS rules permit one vote per
organization. An individual from a new organization must attend at least one
T10 plenary meeting as an Advisory Member. He/she may apply for voting
membership at this meeting, which becomes effective following adjournment of
the meeting. Voting privileges begin upon receipt by the INCITS Secretariat 
of
applicable fees for the membership year.

To maintain membership, organizations must pay the INCITS Service Fee ($800).

John briefly discussed the mailing fees. Complete pricing information is
contained in the 2002 membership form (available at
ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/mem_form.txt).

There are also minimum attendance requirements to maintain voting membership
on T10. If a member organization fails to attend two of the last three T10
meetings, they are warned that failing to attend the next T10 meeting would
result in their membership being terminated.

The Chair said he had sent letters to 9 people from 5 organizations informing
them that their membership was in jeopardy due to non-attendance (see
01-344r1) and that their membership would be terminated if they did not 
attend
this meeting. The following organizations were in attendance jeopardy:

EMC
Exabyte Corp.
Genroco, Inc.
Iomega Corp.
Troika Networks, Inc.

All organizations in attendance jeopardy were present except:

Genroco, Inc.
Troika Networks, Inc.

These organizations were changed to non-voting status.

No organizations joined the committee at this meeting. Silicon Image joined
the committee following the meeting.

The T10 membership during the meeting was 44 organizations down from 46
following the last meeting. Membership following the meeting was 45
organizations. Enclosure (1) is the list of the people present at the meeting
and enclosure (2) is the current T10 membership list.

John Lohmeyer reminded members that failure to vote on two out of the last
three letter ballots also would result in membership jeopardy and then
reported on the status of companies that have not voted on recent letter
ballots. John noted that no organization is in letter ballot jeopardy because
all organizations voted on the most recent letter ballot.


4.     Approval of Minutes - November 2001 Meeting - Seaside, CA
(T10/01-324r0)

John Lohmeyer reported that an error has been discovered in the 01-324r0
minutes. 01-303r1 was referenced as the document containing the letter ballot
resolution for SSM. The correct reference is to 01-303r0.

The minutes were approved as corrected. John noted that the above correction
notification is sufficient and that he would not issue a revision 1 of the
November 2001 minutes.


5.     Document Distribution

Members who have any problems with their mailing subscription should deal
directly with Monica Vago (mvago at itic.org) (202) 626-5741.

John Lohmeyer requested that all documents for the next mailing be in his
hands in electronic format by 10:30 a.m. on Thursday January 21, 2002.
Documents received after this time may go into a subsequent mailing.

John reminded the committee of the requirements for document submission. 
Since
T10 meets its document retention requirements by preparing mailings, 
documents
included in the mailing must be suitable for archiving. This means that
native-format and/or Portable Document Format (PDF) electronic originals with
proper identification must be submitted.

People can obtain T10 document numbers and revised T10 document numbers by
filling out a web form at http://www.t10.org/members/. The assigned T10
document number will be sent to the requestor by email. The requestor may 
then
reply to this email, including the document to be posted as an attachment. 
The
document will be automatically posted on the T10 web site.

T10 members can complete this entire process using their personal T10
password. John explained that members who do not know their password should
surf to the above URL and click on the "forgot password" link to have their
password sent to them via e-mail.

John noted that non-members can also use the above document number process,
but their requests will require approval by an administrator.

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also available at:

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6.     Call for Patents

This is a regular agenda item to identify any potential patent issues with
developing standards and technical reports.

A document is available from ANSI, "Procedures for the Development and
Coordination of American National Standards", at no charge. This document is
also on the WWW at http://www.incits.org/help/ansi_sdo.html. Section 1.2.11
contains the ANSI patent policy. Amy Marasco manages patent issues for ANSI
and can be contacted at amarasco at ansi.org or 212-642-4954. Gene Milligan
prepared a useful "Handy dandy Technical Committee's Patents Guide", which is
available at ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/document.99/99-291r0.pdf.

John presented a foil containing a summary of the ANSI patent policy prepared
by Gary Robinson. The summary is also included on the Rules and Procedures
(plus Patent Information) page on the T10 web site.

John asked that anyone who knows of applicable patents contact him.

There was response to the call for patents from Crossroads (see item 6.1).

Cris Simpson reported that a statement of the Intel patent policy can be 
found
in T10/01-041r0.

6.1    Crossroads 5,941,972 Patent Letter (02-033) [Griswold]

Bob Griswold reported that a disclosure letter regarding patent 5,941,972 
that
Crossroads has determined impinges on the Access Controls proposal approved
for SPC-3. He noted that a letter describing the Crossroad position is
available in 02-033r0.


7.     Review of Old Action Items

436    Gary Robinson will determine how ISO standards can reference ANSI
Technical Reports. Carry over.
444    Gary Robinson will report to the JTC 1 TAG that T10 recommends that 
the
JTC1 TAG approve and forward the NWIP for SCSI Primary Commands - 2, SPC-2, 
to
JTC1 for further processing as an international standard. Complete.
446    Bill McFerrin will prepare MMC-3 revision 10g and 01-167r1. Complete.
447    John Lohmeyer will forward MMC-3 revision 10g and 01-167r1 to NCITS 
for
processing toward first public review. Complete.
448    John Lohmeyer will forward SDV revision 8b and 01-317r1 to NCITS for
approval as a technical report. Complete.
449    John Lohmeyer will forward SSM revision 5 and 01-303r0 to NCITS for
approval as a technical report. Complete.
450    Dave Peterson will prepare SSC-2 revision 7. Complete.
451    John Lohmeyer will conduct a letter ballot on forwarding SSC-2 
revision
7 to first public review. Complete.
452    John Lohmeyer will forward 01-166r0 to NCITS for processing as new
project proposal for MMC-4 under the new rules. Complete.
453    Paul Aloisi will report to IDEMA that T10 knows of no SCSI standards
problems with supporting 4 KB block sizes. Complete.
454    John Lohmeyer will announce the call for SST editor on the T10
Reflector. Complete.


8.     Project Status Reports

8.1    Project Status Summary and INCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]

John Lohmeyer said that the current T10 project status summary was included 
in
the T10 Information Packages distributed prior to the meeting and will be
included in the mailing as usual.

John Lohmeyer announced to that NCITS has changed their name to INCITS
(InterNational Committee for Information Technology Standards). INCITS is
still pronounced "insights".

8.2    SCSI Fibre Channel Protocol - 2 (FCP-2) {Project 1144-D} [Snively]

John Lohmeyer reported that no information is available on the status of the
INCITS letter ballot on FCP-2. Bob Snively noted that an editorial error is 
in
the process of being corrected.

Chair's note: The INCITS letter ballot is being delayed until the editorial
error is corrected and the final draft is available to attach to the letter
ballot.

8.3    SCSI Architecture Model - 2 (SAM-2) {Project 1157-D} [Weber]

Ralph Weber reported that the issues with CA and ACA in SAM-2 r21 were
resolved in the CAP working group (minutes 02-028). A new revision will be
prepared in time for the mailing.

8.4    SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (SPC-2) Status {Project 1236-D} [Weber]

John Lohmeyer reported that INCITS had not provided status on the approval 
for
SPC-2.

Chair's note: SPC-2 has been approved and published. Congratulations, Ralph!

Ralph Weber reported that an A4 SPC-2 draft is being prepared for Gary
Robinson to send to ISO.

8.5    MultiMedia Command Set - 3 (MMC-3) {Project 1363-D} [McFerrin]

John Lohmeyer reported that MMC-3 is at public review, which closes on 11
February. Bill McFerrin reported that ANSI editor found several potential
errors in the MMC-3 that the working group has found to be entirely
non-substantive.

Bill McFerrin moved that T10 report to INCITS that it has reviewed the ANSI
editor changes to MMC-3 and found them all to be non-substantive. Paul Aloisi
seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 31:0:0:13=44.

John Lohmeyer took an action item report to INCITS that T10 has found the 
ANSI
editor's changes in MMC-3 all to be non-substantive.

Bill McFerrin reported on the MMC-4 working group meeting (minutes in 
02-057).

8.6    SCSI Parallel Interface - 4 (SPI-4) {Project 1365-D} [Penokie]

George Penokie reported on the SPI-4 letter ballot resolution activities in
the SPI working group (minutes in 02-027). George Penokie moved that 01-340r1
be accepted as resolving the letter ballot comments on SPI-4 and that SPI-4
rev 9 be accepted as incorporating the letter ballot comment resolution. Mark
Evans seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 33:0:2:9=44.

In view of the satisfactory resolution of the letter ballot comments, Ralph
Weber and Bill Ham asked that their "no" votes on the SPI-4 letter ballot be
changed to "yes".

John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward SPI-4 rev 9 to INCITS for 
further
processing toward first public review.

8.7    SCSI Domain Validation Technical Report (SDV) {Project 1378-DT}
[Gibbons]

John Lohmeyer reported that no information is available on the progress of 
SDV
at INCITS.

8.8    SCSI on Scheduled Transfer (SST) {Project 1380-D} []

John Lohmeyer reported that no one has responded to the call for an SST
Technical Editor. John Lohmeyer moved that T10 recommend that INCITS close
project 1380-D due to lack of resources to complete it. Ed Gardner seconded
the motion. The motion passed 31:0:1:12=44.

John Lohmeyer took an action item to inform INCITS of the T10 recommendation
to close project 1380-D due to lack of resources.

8.9    SCSI Medium Changer Commands - 2 (SMC-2) {Project 1383-D} [Oetting]

Erich Oetting reported that SMC-2 is currently at rev 2 and there is one
proposal recommended by the CAP working group (minutes in 02-028). Erich
stated that if the proposal is approved a new SMC-2 revision will be prepared
in time for the next meeting. He stated that the SMC-2 letter ballot will not
commence until after the March plenary meeting.

8.10   SCSI Signal Modeling (SSM) {Project 1414-DT} [Aloisi]

John Lohmeyer reported that the editor of SSM had been the victim of a
reduction in force the previous day and the status of completing the project
is unclear. Bill Ham volunteered to complete SSM if no other editor is
available.

8.11   SCSI RDMA Protocol (SRP) {Project 1415-D} [Gardner]

Ed Gardner reported that SRP is in the process of completing letter ballot
comment resolution. There will be a meeting to that end following the plenary
meeting.

8.12   SCSI Primary Commands - 3 (SPC-3) {Project 1416-D} [Weber]

Ralph Weber reported that SPC-3 r3 was uploaded last week containing many but
not all of the approved proposals. A new revision will be prepared in time 
for
the mailing and will include most (hopefully all) of the proposals approved
this week. Ralph reminded the committee that only approved proposal revisions
will be used for incorporation in SPC-3 and that incorporation of a proposal
will be deferred until the approved revision has been posted on the T10 web
site.

8.13   SCSI Block Commands - 2 (SBC-2) {Project 1417-D} [Elliott]

Rob Elliott reported that no changes have been made in SBC-2 since the last
meeting. He will have a new revision ready in time for the next meeting, 
based
on the proposals approved at this meeting.

8.14   Object-based Storage Devices Commands (OSD) {Project 1355-D} [Weber]

Ralph Weber reported that the SNIA OSD working group will be meeting next 
week
after which a new OSD revision will be prepared, perhaps not in time for the
mailing.

8.15   SCSI Stream Commands - 2 (SSC-2) {Project 1434-D} [Peterson]

Dave Peterson was unable to attend but provided the following electronic
report:

- Completed letter ballot comment period on 12/17/01.
- Received 641 comments, majority are editorial.
- Have addressed 51 technical comments so far.
- Plan for conference call(s) in the interim to address any technical or
   editorial comments that need to be discussed by the group.

8.16   SCSI Passive Interconnect Performance (PIP) {Project 1439-D} [Daggett]

Bill Ham reported on the activities of the PIP working group (minutes in
02-019). He stated that the goal is to have a PIP document ready for letter
ballot in the next six months.

8.17   SCSI Serial Bus Protocol -3 (SBP-3) {Project 1467-D} [Johansson]

In the absence of Peter Johansson, no report was available.

8.18   SCSI Signal Modeling - 2 (SSM-2) {Project 1514-D} [Aloisi]

Paul Aloisi reported on that activities of the SSM-2 working group (minutes 
in
02-020) and provided an electronic report in 02-049r0.

John Lohmeyer reported that the editor of SSM-2 had been the victim of a
reduction in force the previous day and the status of completing the project
is unclear. Paul Aloisi noted that efforts to find an editor will begin
immediately.

8.19   SCSI RDMA Protocol - 2 (SRP-2) {Project 1524-D} [Simpson]

Cris Simpson reported that work on SRP-2 is on hold until the SRP letter
ballot resolution is finished.

8.20   SCSI Parallel Interface - 5 (SPI-5) {Project 1525-D} [Penokie]

George Penokie reported on the activities related to SPI-5 (minutes in
02-027). He noted SPI-5 rev 0 will be prepared in April.

8.21   SCSI Management Server Commands (MSC) {Project 1528-D}
[Penokie/Elliott]

George Penokie reported that one proposal for MSC was presented at the CAP
meeting (minutes in 02-028). He expressed the belief that MSC rev 0 will be
published sometime in the summer.


9.     Old Business

9.1    Style Guide [Moore]

Dennis Moore's proposal 01-313r2 was discussed at the editor's meeting 
earlier
this week and a new revision will be prepared for the next meeting. He also
noted that a FrameMaker template should be available in the next few days.

9.2    Project Proposal for an RBC-2 Standard (01-098) [Roberts]

Ron Roberts asked that discussion of this topic be deferred to the next
meeting.

9.3    Project Proposal for a SCSI Parallel Interface - 6 (SPI-6) Standard
(01-145) [Lohmeyer]

John Lohmeyer asked that discussion of this topic be deferred to the next
meeting.

9.4    A/V Direct-Access Project Proposal (01-337) [Johannson]

Peter Johansson via email asked that discussion of this topic be deferred to
the next meeting.


10.    New Business

10.1   Results of letter ballot 01-350 on forwarding SSC-2 to 1PR (01-351)
[Peterson]

John Lohmeyer reported on the results of the letter ballot on forwarding 
SSC-2
to first public review (01-351r0). The letter ballot passed on a vote of
38:4:4:0=46.

10.2   Actions on Parallel SCSI Working Group Recommendations

10.2.1 Duplicate Tag ASC Correction in SPI-4 (02-034r1) [Penokie]

George Penokie reported that a correction to the description of duplicate tag
handling was recommended unanimously by the SPI-4 working group (minutes in
02-027). George Penokie moved that 02-034r1 (r0 as modified) be approved for
inclusion in SPI-4. Mark Evans seconded the motion. The motion passed on a
vote of 35:0:1:8=44.

10.3   Actions on CAP Working Group Recommendations

10.3.1 Names, Addresses, Identifiers, Oh my! (01-084r6) [Penokie]

George Penokie described the informative annex proposed in 01-084r6. George
Penokie moved that 01-084r6 (r5 as revised) be approved for incorporation in
SAM-2 as an informative annex. Mark Evans seconded the motion. The motion
passed on a vote of 29:0:0:15=44.

10.3.2 SMC-2 INITIALIZE ELEMENT STATUS WITH RANGE command (01-308r2) 
[Elliott]

Ralph Weber described the SMC-2 command proposal (01-308r2). Rob Elliott 
moved
that 01-308r2 (r1 as revised) be approved for inclusion in SMC-2. Erich
Oetting seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 29:0:0:15=44.

10.3.3 SBC-2 Long LBA PMI support for READ CAPACITY (01-246r1) [Elliott]

George Penokie and Rob Elliott described the READ CAPACITY(10) command 
changes
and new READ CAPACITY(16) command proposed for SBC-2 in 01-246r1. Rob Elliott
moved that 01-246r1 be approved for inclusion in SBC-2. Ron Roberts seconded
the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 29:0:0:15=44.

10.3.4 SPC-3 SBC-2 SSC-2 sense data changes (01-199r3) [Elliott]

George Penokie and Ralph Weber described the changes in sense data format
proposed in 01-199r3. Rob Elliott moved that 01-199r3 (r2 as revised) be
approved for inclusion in SPC-3, SBC-2 and SSC-2. Joe Breher seconded the
motion. The motion passed on a vote of 29:0:0:15=44.

10.3.5 Assign ASC/ASCQ 14h/07h to LOCATE OPERATION FAILURE for tapes [Weber]

Ralph Weber reviewed the assignment of new ASC/ASCQ values for SSC-2 LOCATE
OPERATION FAILURE. Ralph continued by describing the contents of 02-017r0,
02-025r0, 02-026r1, 02-016r1, 01-099r6, and 01-204r2. Rob Elliott moved that
the assignment of ASC/ASCQ 14h/07h to LOCATE OPERATION FAILURE, 02-017r0,
02-025r0, 02-026r1 (r0 as revised), 02-016r1 (r0 as revised), 01-099r6 (r5 as
revised), and 01-204r2 be approved for inclusion in SPC-3. Roger Cummings
seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 32:0:0:12=44.

10.3.6 SPC-3 sense data size limit (02-017r0) [Elliott]

Action on this item was taken in item 10.3.5.

10.3.7 SPC-3 Unit Attention interlock and Asynchronous Event Reporting
(02-025r0) [Elliott]

Action on this item was taken in item 10.3.5.

10.3.8 SPC-3 REQUEST SENSE during pending-enrolled state (02-026r1) [Elliott]

Action on this item was taken in item 10.3.5.

10.3.9 SPC-3 TST field description (02-016r1) [Elliott]

Action on this item was taken in item 10.3.5.

10.3.10  SPC-3 Letting persistent reservations ignore target ports (01-099r6)
[Elliott]

Action on this item was taken in item 10.3.5.

10.3.11  Report Supported Operation Codes Command (01-253r3) [Penokie]

George Penokie described the new command for determining operation code and
service action support proposed in 01-253r3. George Penokie moved that
01-253r3 (r2 as revised) be approved for inclusion in SPC-3. Bill Galloway
seconded the motion. George noted that the working group voted 15:2:1 to
recommend approval of the proposal.

Ed Gardner spoke against the motion stating that profiles should be developed
instead of the proposal. Mark Evans spoke against the motion stating that the
proposal adds extra testing and firmware that has no benefit. Roger Cummings
described past experience with similar features as beneficial.

The motion passed on a vote of 22:1:11:10=44.

10.3.12  Proposal for an additional Persistent Reservations Type in SPC-3
(01-204r2) [Cummings]

Action on this item was taken in item 10.3.5.

10.4   Actions on Other Working Group Recommendations

10.4.1 Project proposal for ADI Physical Layer (ADP) (02-010) [Suhler]

John Lohmeyer reported the organizing activities of the ADI study group
working on interfaces between drives and media changers.

Bob Griswold moved that 02-010r0 be forwarded to INCITS for processing as a
new project proposal for ADI Physical Layer, that 02-009r0 be forwarded to
INCITS for processing as a new project proposal for ADI Transport Protocol,
and that 02-008r0 be forwarded to INCITS for processing as a new project
proposal for ADI Commands. Paul Entzel seconded the motion. The motion passed
on a vote of 35:0:1:8=44.

John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward 02-010r0 to INCITS for 
processing
as a new project proposal for ADI Physical Layer. John Lohmeyer took an 
action
item to forward 02-009r0 to INCITS for processing as a new project proposal
for ADI Transport Protocol. John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward
02-008r0 to INCITS for processing as a new project proposal for ADI Commands.

10.4.2 Project proposal for ADI Transport Protocol (ADT) (02-009) [Suhler]

Action on this item was taken in item 10.4.1.

10.4.3 Project proposal for ADI Commands (ADC) (02-008) [Suhler]

Action on this item was taken in item 10.4.1.


11.    ISO/IEC

11.1   ISO/IEC Report [Robinson]

Gary Robinson provided and presented an ISO status report (02-053r0).

11.2   ISO/IEC Business [Robinson]

11.2.1 ISO/IEC SPI-4 [Penokie]

George Penokie moved that the IR be instructed to prepare and forward to the
JTC1 TAG a NWIP for SPI-4 and to forward the FCD for SPI-4 when appropriate.
Gary Robinson seconded the motion. The motion passed on a roll call vote of
34:1:0:9=44. Details of the roll call vote were as follows.

rganization                Stat Name                    Yes No Abs NP
Adaptec, Inc.                P   Mr. Ron Roberts          1
Amphenol Interconnect                                                1
Ancot Corp.                                                          1
Andiamo Systems, Inc.        P   Dr. Claudio DeSanti      1
BREA Technologies, Inc.      P   Mr. Bill Galloway        1
Brocade Comm. Systems, Inc.  P   Mr. Brian Forbes         1
Cisco Systems, Inc.                                                  1
Compaq Computer Corp.        P   Mr. Robert C. Elliott    1
Congruent Software, Inc.                                             1
Crossroads Systems, Inc.     P   Mr. Robert Griswold      1
Dallas Semiconductor         A   Mr. James A. Lott, Jr.   1
Dell Computer Corp.          P   Mr. Kevin Marks          1
EMC                          P   Mr. Gary S. Robinson     1
Emulex                       P   Mr. Robert H. Nixon      1
ENDL Texas                   P   Mr. Ralph O. Weber       1
Exabyte Corp.                P   Mr. Joe Breher           1
FCI                          P   Mr. Douglas Wagner       1
Fujitsu                      P   Mr. Eugene Lew           1
General Dynamics                                                     1
Hewlett Packard Co.          A#  Ms. Marjorie Krueger     1
Hitachi Cable Manchester     A   Mr. Randy Wasylak        1
IBM / Tivoli Systems         P   Mr. George O. Penokie    1
Intel Corp.                  P   Mr. Cris Simpson         1
Iomega Corp.                 P   Mr. Tim Bradshaw         1
KnowledgeTek, Inc.                                                   1
LSI Logic Corp.              P   Mr. John Lohmeyer        1
Maxtor Corp.                 P   Mr. Mark Evans           1
Microsoft Corp.              A#  Mr. Nathan Obr           1
Molex Inc.                   P   Mr. Jay Neer             1
Nishan Systems Inc.          P   Mr. Charles Monia        1
Ophidian Designs             P   Mr. Edward A. Gardner        1
Panasonic Technologies, Inc  P   Dr. Terence J. Nelson    1
Philips Electronics/CD Edge  P   Mr. William P. McFerrin  1
Pirus Networks                                                       1
QLogic Corp.                 A   Mr. Ting Li Chan         1
Quantum Corp.                P   Mr. Paul Entzel          1
Seagate Technology           P   Mr. Gerald Houlder       1
Storage Technology Corp.     P   Mr. Erich Oetting        1
Sun Microsystems, Inc.       P   Mr. Kenneth Moe          1
Texas Instruments            P   Mr. Paul D. Aloisi       1
Toshiba America Elec. Comp.  P   Mr. Tasuku Kasebayashi   1
TycoElectronics                                                      1
Veritas Software             P   Mr. Roger Cummings       1
Woven Electronics                                                    1

                                                           34  1  0   9 = 44

Ed Gardner stated that the reason for his no vote was his usual disagreement
with doing ISO/IEC standards in T10.


12.    Liaison Reports

12.1   T11 Liaison Report [Snively]

Bob Snively presented the T11 liaison report contained in T10/02-018r0.

12.2   T13 Liaison Report [Colegrove]

Dan Colegrove provided an oral report to the committee and Pete McLean
provided the following electronic report:

T13 met last in Irvine, CA on December 11 through 12 with 21 people present.
Membership is currently 21 voting organizations.

The erratum for ATA/ATAPI-5 ANSI NCITS 340-2000 has been published by ANSI.

The ATA/ATAPI-6 draft standard T13/1410D letter ballot passed 18-0-0-2 and
comments were resolved. Revision 3a of the draft standard has been forwarded
to NCITS for first public review.

BIOS Enhanced Disk Drive Services T13/1484D, was reviewed and a letter ballot
to forward the draft standard issued. The letter ballot closes 1/21/02.

Host Adapter Standard, T13/1510D, was reviewed. It is expected that this 
draft
standard may go to letter ballot in February.

The format and new proposals were presented for ATA/ATAPI-7, T13/1532D.

Adaptec Corporation will host the next plenary meeting February 19-21, 2002 
at
the Placerville Inn, 6850 Greenleaf Drive, Placerville, CA 95667. The meeting
will start at 9 AM.

For further T13 information access ftp.t13.org or www.t13.org.

12.3   SFF Industry Group [Allan]

In the absence of Dal Allan, no report was available.

12.4   IEEE 1394 [Johansson]

In the absence of Peter Johansson, no report was available.

12.5   SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Jones/Aloisi]

Paul Aloisi reported on the activities of STA and provided an electronic
report that can be found in 02-050r0.

12.6   IETF SCSI over IP [Black/Robinson]

In the absence of David Black, no report was available.

12.7   INCITS H2 (Database Languages) [Hare]

Terry Nelson reported that based on his interactions with INCITS he believes
that this agenda item can be discontinued.


13.    Review of Action Items

436    Gary Robinson will determine how ISO standards can reference ANSI
Technical Reports.
454    John Lohmeyer will report to INCITS that T10 has found the ANSI
editor's changes in MMC-3 all to be non-substantive.
455    John Lohmeyer will forward SPI-4 rev 9 to INCITS for processing toward
first public review.
456    John Lohmeyer will inform INCITS of the T10 recommendation to close
project 1380-D due to lack of resources.
457    John Lohmeyer will forward 02-010r0 to INCITS for processing as a new
project proposal for ADI Physical Layer.
458    John Lohmeyer will forward 02-009r0 to INCITS for processing as a new
project proposal for ADI Transport Protocol.
459    John Lohmeyer will forward 02-008r0 to INCITS for processing as a new
project proposal for ADI Commands.


14.    Meeting Schedule

The next plenary meeting of T10 will be Thursday Mach 14, 2002 in Dallas, TX
at the Crowne Plaza Suites (972-233-7600), hosted by Texas Instruments. The
meeting will begin at 9:00 a.m. on Thursday.

The meeting list for the next plenary week is:

                                 March 2002 Meeting Map
                                  (2002/01/18 Version)
Monday 1/11        9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9
                                    +===================+
                                    | SSC-2 WG          |              (20)
                                    +===================+

Tuesday 1/12   8   9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9
                    +===========================================+
                    | Parallel SCSI WG                          |      (35)
                    +===============================+===========+
                    | MMC WG                        |                  (10)
                    +===============================+
                    | SBP-3 WG                      |                  (15)
                +---+===============================+-------+
                |T11 ad hocs                                |          (25)
                +---+---------------------------+-----------+
                    | ADI WG (tape library)     |                      (15)
                    +---------------------------+

Wednesday 1/13     9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9
                    +==========================================+
                    | SCSI Commands, Arch., & Protocol WG      |       (35)
                    +===============================+==========+
                    | MMC WG                        |                  (10)
                    +===============================+
                    | SBP-3 WG                      |                  (15)
                    +===============================+-------+
                                        | SFF SSWG          |          (20)
                                    +-----------+-----------+
                                    | STA Tech  | STA Marcom|          (20)
                                    +-----------+-----------+

Thursday 1/14  8   9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
                    +=================+=====================+
                    | T10 Plenary     | SRP 
WG  (*)         |          (50/20)
                    +=================+=================+===+
                                      | SCSI Trade Assoc|              (25)
                                      +-----------------+
  (*)  - Meeting begins 1 hour after T10 meeting

Friday 1/15    8   9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5


Meetings marked with == are T10-authorized meetings.
Meetings marked with -- are other groups and may change without notice.

Other T10-authorized meetings:
Meeting         Date                Location / Contact
--------------  ------------------  --------------------------------------
SBP-3 WG        01/21-22/02         Waikoloa, HI / Johansson
SSM WG          02/20/02            Scotts Valley, CA / Seagate
PIP WG          02/21/02            Scotts Valley, CA / Seagate
PIP WG          04/02/02            Nashua, NH / Hitachi Cable
PIP Edit        04/03/02            Nashua, NH / Hitachi Cable
SSM WG          04/04/02            Nashua, NH / Hitachi Cable

  Meeting Map Abbreviation Key:
Amnd:        Amendment
CAP:         Commands, Architecture, and Protocols
DVD:         Digital Versatile Device (not an NCITS activity)
EPI:         SCSI Enhanced Parallel Interface (Technical Report)
Fast-20:     Data Transfer at 20 Mega-transfers/sec. (a.k.a., Ultra)
Fast-40:     Data Transfer at 40 Mega-transfers/sec. (a.k.a., Ultra2)
Fast-80:     Data Transfer at 80 Mega-transfers/sec. (a.k.a., 
Ultra3,Ultra160)
Fast-160:    Data Transfer at 160 Mega-transfers/sec. (a.k.a., Ultra320)
FC:          Fibre Channel
FCIP:        Fibre Channel over Internet Protocol
Harbor:      A project on defining a wrapper for physical devices
I/F:         Interface
IETF:        Internet Engineering Task Force (the group that sets
              Internet standards)
iFC:         Internet Fibre Channel
IPS:         Internet Protocol SCSI
iSCSI:       Internet SCSI
LB:          Letter Ballot
MMC:         Multimedia Commands (CD-ROM, DVD, etc.)
OSD:         Object-based Storage Device
Par.:        Parallel (e.g., SPI-n, Domain Validation)
PH:          Physical (Connectors, Cables, Transceivers, etc.)
PIP:         (SCSI) Passive Interconnect Performance
Plenary:     Full Committee Meeting
Res:         Resolution
SBC-2:       SCSI Block Commands - 2
SCSI:        Small Computer System Interface
SDV:         SCSI Domain Validation (Technical Report)
SES:         SCSI Enclosure Services
SFF:         SFF Industry Group (not an NCITS activity)
SG:          Study Group
SMC-2:       SCSI Medium Changer - 2 Commands
SPC-2:       SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (2nd generation)
SPI-4:       Fourth Generation SCSI Parallel Interface
SRP:         SCSI RDMA Protocol (was SVP)
SSC-2:       SCSI Stream Commands - 2 (includes Tape)
SSM:         SCSI Signal Modeling
SST:         SCSI on Scheduled Transfer (ST)
SSWGs:       Specific-Subject Working Groups
STA:         SCSI Trade Association (not an NCITS activity)
STA Marcom:  STA Marketing Communications (not an NCITS activity)
STA Tech:    STA Technical Meeting (T10 members invited)
T10:         Lower Level Interfaces Technical Committee
T11:         Device Level Interfaces Technical Committee
WG:          Working Group (same as Ad Hoc Group)


For more information about T10 activities, please contact the following
people:

Activity                     Contact         Telephone/Email
---------------------------- --------------- ------------------------------
ADP, ADT, ADC                Bob Griswold    (512) 928-7272
                                              rgriswold at crossroads.com
EPI                          Bill Ham        (508) 841-2629
                                              bill_ham at ix.netcom.com
PIP                          Zane Daggett    (603) 669-4347 x236
                                              zdaggett at hcm.hitachi.com
FCP-2, SES                   Robert Snively  (408) 487-8135
                                              rsnively at brocade.com
SBC-2                        Rob Elliott     (281) 518-5037
                                              Robert.Elliott at compaq.com
MMC-2, MMC-3, MMC-4          Bill McFerrin   (303) 651-5400
                                              bill.mcferrin at cdedge.com
SBP-2 or RBC                 Pete McLean     (303) 678-2149
                                              pete_mclean at maxtor.com
SBP-2, SBP-3                 Peter Johansson (510) 527-3926
                                                    PJohansson at ACM.org
SCC-2, SPI-4, SPI-5, MSC     George Penokie  (507) 253-5208
                                              gpenokie at tivoli.com
SDV                          Terry Gibbons   (719 533-7499
                                              terry.gibbons at lsil.com
SMC, SMC-2                   Erich Oetting   (303) 673-2178
                                              Erich_Oetting at Stortek.com
SPC-2, SPC-3, SAM-2, OSD     Ralph Weber     (214) 912-1373
                                              roweber at acm.org
SSC, SSC-2                   Dave Peterson   (612) 802-3299
                                              dap at cisco.com
SRP (was SVP)                Ed Gardner      (719) 593-8866
                                              eag at ophidian.com
SRP-2                        Cris Simpson    (503) 712-4333
                                              cris.simpson at intel.com
Other Activities             John Lohmeyer   (719) 533-7560
                                              lohmeyer at t10.org

The long-term T10 meeting week schedule is:

Date                Location                   Host/Comments
------------------  -------------------------  -----------------------------
Mar 11-15, 2002     Dallas, TX                 T.I.
Apr 29-May 3, 2002  Nashua, NH                 Hitachi Cable
Jul 15-19, 2002     Colorado Springs, CO       LSI Logic
Sep  9-13, 2002     Minneapolis, MN            Cisco (?) / [CHANGED]
Nov   4-8, 2002     Huntington Beach, CA       QLogic
Jan 13-17, 2003     Portland, OR               Intel
Mar 10-14, 2003     Dallas, TX                 T.I.
May 5-9, 2003       Nashua, NH                 Hitachi Cable
Jul 14-18, 2003     Colorado Springs, CO       LSI Logic
Sep 8-12, 2003      Seattle, WA                Microsoft
Nov 3-7, 2003       Austin, TX                 Crossroads

14.1     Authorization of Working Group Meetings

John noted that the working group meetings are required to operate under the
same voting procedures as does T10 (that is, one vote per organization) and
the results of a working group are not binding on the parent committee. Ad 
hoc
groups should strive to achieve consensus prior to bringing issues to T10.

Erich Oetting moved that T10 authorize the T10-related meetings and events in
the list above that had not previously been approved through the end of April
2002. Paul Aloisi seconded the motion. In the absence of any objections, the
motion passed unanimously.

14.2     SBP-3 Tentative Meeting Schedule

Peter Johansson provided the following tentative meeting schedule for the
SBP-3 working group:

January 21 - 22 (Waikoloa, HI)
March 12 - 13 (Dallas, TX)
April 30 - May 1 (Nashua, NH)
June 3 - 7 / 10 - 14 (Portland, OR) [two-day meeting one of those two weeks]
July 16 - 17 (Colorado Springs, CO) [two-day meeting that week]


15.    Adjournment

The meeting was adjourned at 11:55 a.m. on Thursday January 17, 2002.
Enclosure(1) -- Meeting Attendees

          Name          S        Organization         Electronic Mail Address
---------------------- -- ------------------------- -------------------------
Mr. Ron Roberts        P  Adaptec, Inc.             Ron_Roberts at adaptec.com
Mr. John Majernik      A  Amphenol Interconnect     john.majernik at aipce.com
Dr. Claudio DeSanti    P  Andiamo Systems, Inc.     cds at andiamo.com
Mr. Bill Galloway      P  BREA Technologies, Inc.   billg at breatech.com
Mr. Brian Forbes       P  Brocade Comm. Systems,    bforbes at brocade.com
                           Inc.
Mr. Robert Snively     A  Brocade Comm. Systems,    rsnively at brocade.com
                           Inc.
Mr. Robert C. Elliott  P  Compaq Computer Corp.     Robert.Elliott at compaq.com
Dr. William Ham        A  Compaq Computer Corp.     bill_ham at ix.netcom.com
Mr. Robert Griswold    P  Crossroads Systems, Inc.  rgriswold at crossroads.com
Mr. James A. Lott, Jr. A  Dallas Semiconductor      jim.lott at dalsemi.com
Mr. Kevin Marks        P  Dell Computer Corp.       kevin_marks at dell.com
Mr. Ronald Stockford   A  Dell Computer Corp.       ron_stockford at dell.com
Mr. Gary S. Robinson   P  EMC                       robinson_gary at emc.com
Mr. Robert H. Nixon    P  Emulex                    bob.nixon at emulex.com
Mr. Ralph O. Weber     P  ENDL Texas                roweber at acm.org
Mr. Joe Breher         P  Exabyte Corp.             joebre at exabyte.com
Mr. Douglas Wagner     P  FCI                       dwagner at fciconnect.com
Mr. Eugene Lew         P  Fujitsu                   elew at fcpa.fujitsu.com
Ms. Marjorie Krueger   A# Hewlett Packard Co.       marjorie_krueger at hp.com
Mr. Werner Glinka      AV Hitachi America           werner.glinka at attglobal.
                                                     net
Mr. Randy Wasylak      A  Hitachi Cable Manchester  rwasylak at hcm.hitachi.com
Mr. George O. Penokie  P  IBM / Tivoli Systems      gop at us.ibm.com
Mr. Dan Colegrove      V  IBM Corp.                 dcolegro at us.ibm.com
Mr. Cris Simpson       P  Intel Corp.               cris.simpson at intel.com
Mr. Tim Bradshaw       P  Iomega Corp.              bradshat at iomega.com
Mr. Dennis Moore       P  KnowledgeTek, Inc.        dmoore at ix.netcom.com
Mr. John Lohmeyer      P  LSI Logic Corp.           lohmeyer at t10.org
Mr. Mark Evans         P  Maxtor Corp.              mark_evans at maxtor.com
Mr. David Cressman     V  Maxtor Corp.              dave_cressman at maxtor.com
Mr. Martin Czekalski   V  Maxtor Corp.              marty_czekalski at maxtor.
                                                     com
Mr. Nathan Obr         A# Microsoft Corp.           natobr at microsoft.com
Mr. Jay Neer           P  Molex Inc.                jneer at molex.com
Mr. Charles Monia      P  Nishan Systems Inc.       cmonia at nishansystems.com
Mr. Edward A. Gardner  P  Ophidian Designs          eag at ophidian.com
Dr. Terence J. Nelson  P  Panasonic Technologies,   terry at tjnelson.com
                           Inc
Mr. William P.         P  Philips Electronics/CD    bill.mcferrin at cdedge.com
McFerrin                  Edge
Mr. Ting Li Chan       A  QLogic Corp.              ting.chan at qlogic.com
Mr. Paul Entzel        P  Quantum Corp.             paul.entzel at quantum.com
Mr. Gerald Houlder     P  Seagate Technology        gerry_houlder at seagate.com
Mr. Mark O'Dell        P  Silicon Image             odell at siliconimage.com
Mr. Erich Oetting      P  Storage Technology Corp.  erich_oetting at stortek.com
Mr. Kenneth Moe        P  Sun Microsystems, Inc.    kenneth.moe at sun.com
Mr. Paul D. Aloisi     P  Texas Instruments         Paul_Aloisi at ti.com
Mr. Donald R. Getty    A  Texas Instruments         donald_getty at ti.com
Mr. Tasuku Kasebayashi P  Toshiba America Elec.     task.kasebayashi at tais.
                           Comp.                     toshiba.com
Mr. Roger Cummings     P  Veritas Software          roger.cummings at veritas.
                                                     com
Mr. James Nelson       AV Vixel Corp.               jnelson at vixel.com
Mr. John Masiewicz     V  Western Digital           john.masiewicz at wdc.com

48 People Present

Status Key:  P    -  Principal
              A,A# -  Alternate
              AV   -  Advisory Member
              L    -  Liaison
              V    -  Visitor


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