Draft Minutes T10 Plenary meeting #36 - March 9, 2000
John Lohmeyer
lohmeyer at t10.org
Tue Mar 14 15:40:38 PST 2000
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National Committee for Information Technology Standards (NCITS)
Doc. No.: T10/00-157r0
Date: March 14, 2000
Reply to: John Lohmeyer
To: T10 Membership
From: Ralph Weber / John Lohmeyer
Subject: Minutes of T10 Plenary Meeting #36 -- March 9, 2000
Dallas, TX
Agenda
1. Opening Remarks
2. Approval of Agenda
3. Attendance and Membership
4. Approval of Minutes - January `00 Meeting - Surfers Paradise, Australia
(T10/00-122r1)
5. Document Distribution
6. Call for Patents
7. Review of Old Action Items
8. Project Status Reports
8.1 Project Status Summary and NCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]
8.2 SCSI Common Access Method - 3 (CAM-3) Status {Project 990-D} [Dallas]
8.3 SCSI-3 Stream Commands (SSC) Status {Project 997-D} [Peterson]
8.4 SCSI Fibre Channel Protocol - 2 (FCP-2) {Project 1144-D} [Snively]
8.5 SCSI Architecture Model - 2 (SAM-2) {Project 1157-D} [Weber]
8.6 Multimedia Command Set - 2 (MMC-2) Status {Project 1228-D} [McFerrin]
8.7 SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (SPC-2) Status {Project 1236-D} [Weber]
8.8 Reduced Block Commands (RBC) {Project 1240-D} [McLean]
8.9 SCSI Parallel Interface - 3 (SPI-3) {Project 1302-D} [Penokie]
8.10 MultiMedia Command Set - 3 (MMC-3) {Project 1363-D} [McFerrin]
8.11 Reduced MultiMedia Command Set (RMC) {Project 1364-D} [McFerrin]
8.12 SCSI Parallel Interface - 4 (SPI-4) {Project 1365-D} [Penokie]
8.13 SCSI Domain Validation Technical Report (SDV) {Project 1378-DT}
[Lamers]
8.14 SCSI on Scheduled Transfer (SST) {Project 1380-D} [Woelz]
8.15 SCSI Medium Changer Commands - 2 (SMC-2) {Project 1383-D} [Oetting]
8.16 SCSI Signal Modeling (SSM) {Project 1414-DT} [Aloisi]
8.17 SCSI VI Protocol (SVP) {Project 1415-D} [Gardner]
8.18 SCSI Primary Commands - 3 (SPC-3) {Project 1416-D} [Weber]
8.19 SCSI Block Commands - 2 (SBC-2) {Project 1417-D} [Milligan]
9. Old Business
9.1 Report on T10 Procedures Study Group Meeting [Lohmeyer]
9.2 Project proposal for object-based storage devices command set (OSD)
(99-312r0) [Milligan]
9.3 Editing RBC for ISO/IEC (99-284r0) [Roberts]
10. New Business
10.1 Actions on Working Group Recommendations
10.1.1 Proposal for LVD Bus Length (00-170r1) [Evans]
10.1.2 Beyond 2TBytes (99-259r4) [Penokie]
10.1.3 READ/WRITE BUFFER Behavior During Domain Validation (99-306r2)
[Elliott]
10.1.4 SPC-2 Echo Buffer Size (00-109r3) [Elliott]
10.1.5 Adding Reserved Bytes to EXTENDED COPY Parameter Data (00-165r0)
[Weber]
10.1.6 Task Set Full Clarification (99-343) [Snively]
10.2 Large addressing issues in SSC [Suhler]
10.2.1 Reject Public Review Comment on SSC [Suhler]
10.2.2 Support for Large Block Addresses in SSC-2 (00-135r2) [Suhler]
10.3 Consideration of withdrawing the CAM-3 project 990-D
10.4 IEEE Usage of T10 Vendor ID List [Lohmeyer]
10.5 Call for Volunteers to Chair T10
10.6 T10 Style Guide and Templates
11. ISO/IEC
11.1 ISO/IEC Report [Milligan]
11.2 ISO/IEC Business [Milligan]
11.2.1 Forwarding SSC to ISO/IEC [Milligan]
11.2.2 Forwarding SPI-3 to ISO/IEC [Milligan]
11.2.3 Withdrawing ISO/IEC project on MMC [McFerrin]
11.2.4 Potential Approval of SBP-2 [Milligan]
11.2.5 Approval of Working Group 4 Delegation [Milligan]
12. Liaison Reports
12.1 T11 Liaison Report [Wanamaker]
12.2 T13 Liaison Report [Milligan]
12.3 SFF Industry Group [Allan]
12.4 IEEE 1394 [Johansson]
12.5 IEEE P1285 Status
12.6 SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Jones/Aloisi]
12.7 Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) [Robinson]
13. Review of Action Items
14. Meeting Schedule
14.1 Authorization of Working Group Meetings
15. Adjournment
Results of Meeting
1. Opening Remarks
John Lohmeyer, the T10 Chair, called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m.,
Thursday March 9, 2000. He thanked Paul Aloisi of Texas Instruments for
hosting the meeting.
John said that NCITS Subgroup Membership forms and the T10 Mailing
Subscription form were available from the head table. He said that people
should use the NCITS forms to insure the NCITS Secretariat has the latest
membership information. These forms should be mailed directly to the NCITS
Secretariat.
As is customary, the people attending introduced themselves and a copy of the
attendance list was circulated. Copies of the draft agenda and general
information on T10 were made available to those attending.
2. Approval of Agenda
The draft agenda was approved with the following additions/changes:
8.16 SCSI Signal Modeling (SSM) {Project 1414-DT} [Aloisi]
10.1.1 Proposal for LVD Bus Length (00-170r1) [Evans]
10.1.2 Beyond 2TBytes (99-259r4) [Penokie]
10.1.3 READ/WRITE BUFFER Behavior During Domain Validation (99-306r2)
[Elliott]
10.1.4 SPC-2 Echo Buffer Size (00-109r3) [Elliott]
10.1.5 Adding Reserved Bytes to EXTENDED COPY Parameter Data (00-165r0)
[Weber]
10.2 Large addressing issues in SSC [Suhler]
10.2.1 Reject Public Review Comment on SSC [Suhler]
10.2.2 Support for Large Block Addresses in SSC-2 (00-135r2) [Suhler]
10.4 IEEE Usage of T10 Vendor ID List [Lohmeyer]
11.2.4 Potential Approval of SBP-2 [Milligan]
11.2.5 Approval of Working Group 4 Delegation [Milligan]
12.7 Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) [Robinson]
The following agenda items were added/revised during the course of the
meeting:
10.1.6 Task Set Full Clarification (99-343) [Snively]
10.5 Call for Volunteers to Chair T10
10.6 T10 Style Guide and Templates
3. Attendance and Membership
The membership requirements were reviewed. NCITS rules permit one vote per
organization. An individual from a new organization must attend two out of
three consecutive plenary meetings. He/she may apply for voting membership
the second meeting via a letter to the Chair of T10. The individual may apply
for membership and begin voting at anytime following adjournment of the first
meeting. Typically, the individual applies for membership and starts casting
votes at the second plenary meeting. Working group and other ad hoc meetings
do not count toward attendance requirements.
The option that allows a person attending their first meeting to become a
voting member immediately following that meeting, provided their NCITS fees
have been paid, permits a new member to vote on letter ballots issued between
his/her first and second meetings. Unfortunately, this option also means that
the new organization is immediately in attendance jeopardy.
To maintain membership, organizations must pay the NCITS Service Fee ($300).
The ANSI International Program Fee (also $300) is billed at the same time.
John briefly discussed the mailing fees. Complete pricing information is
contained in the 2000 membership form (available at
ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/mem_form.txt).
There are also minimum attendance requirements to maintain voting membership
on T10. If a member organization fails to attend two of the last three T10
meetings, they are warned that failing to attend the next T10 meeting would
result in their membership being terminated.
At the January 2000 meeting, Iomega and UNISYS had been in attendance
jeopardy. Consideration of a motion to continue their membership in spite of
their failure to attend was deferred to this meeting. Unfortunately, the
action of deferring consideration of the motion meant that their memberships
were terminated at the January meeting. The Chair contacted NCITS regarding
whether the deferred motion was rendered moot by this action or whether these
memberships would be re-activated at the March meeting should the motion now
pass. The NCITS Secretariat subsequently ruled that because of the undue
financial hardship involved in attending a meeting outside the U.S., the
deferred motion is in order. Should these organizations be present at the
March meeting and should the deferred motion pass, then they are to be treated
as if their memberships were not terminated in Australia.
John verified that both Iomega and UNISYS are present at this meeting. John
stated that the motion from January was now on the floor. Gene Milligan moved
to amend the motion to read (in total) "Moved that in view of the special
circumstances T10 requests its Chair to suspend the membership of the T10
members in jeopardy and not present at the January meeting and to defer the
rollcall of members in jeopardy and not present at the January meeting until
the March meeting." Ed Gardner seconded the motion to amend. The motion to
amend passed on a vote of 22:2:1:14=39. The amended motion pass on a vote of
25:4:3:7=39.
The Chair said he had sent letters to 20 people from 11 organizations
informing them that their membership was in jeopardy due to non-attendance
(see 00-003r0) and that their membership would be terminated if they did not
attend this meeting. Iomega and UNISYS were added to the list of
organizations in jeopardy as a result of the motion just passed. The
following organizations were in attendance jeopardy:
Amphenol Interconnect
BREA Technologies, Inc.
CMD Technology
Dell Computer
General Dynamics
Hewlett Packard Co.
Hitachi Cable Manchester, Inc.
Hitachi Storage Products
Honda Connectors
Iomega
Linfinity Micro
Toshiba America Elec. Comp.
UNISYS
All of these organizations were present except:
Hitachi Storage Products
The organizations in attendance jeopardy were terminated due to lack of
attendance (i.e., the principal member was changed to observer status and the
first alternate member, if any, was dropped; additional alternates, if any,
were changed to observers).
No organizations requested new (or reinstated) membership.
The T10 membership during the meeting was 40 organizations up from 39
organizations following the last meeting. Enclosure (1) is the list of the
people present at the meeting and enclosure (2) is the current T10 membership
list.
4. Approval of Minutes - January `00 Meeting - Surfers Paradise, Australia
(T10/00-122r1)
The minutes were approved as written.
5. Document Distribution
Members who have any problems with their mailing subscription should deal
directly with Monica Vago (mvago at itic.org) (202) 626-5741.
John Lohmeyer requested that all documents for the next mailing be in his
hands in electronic format by 10:30 a.m. on Thursday March 16, 2000.
Documents received after this time may go into a subsequent mailing.
John reminded the committee of the requirements for document submission.
Since T10 meets its document retention requirements by preparing mailings,
documents included in the mailing must be suitable for archiving. This means
that native-format and/or Portable Document Format (PDF) electronic originals
with proper identification must be submitted.
The electronic copies can be sent directly to John by email (at
lohmeyer at t10.org), or they can be transferred by ftp protocol to ftp.t10.org
and placed in the /incoming directory. In the latter case, please also send
email to John informing him of the file name and location of the file.
Minutes are available on the T10 World Wide Web page (see below), and are
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The NCITS Secretariat maintains a World Wide Web page at
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T10 on a server provided by the SCSI Trade Association at:
http://www.t10.org/
The current document register is enclosure (3). The T10 document register is
also available at:
ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/dr.txt
6. Call for Patents
This is a regular agenda item to identify any potential patent issues with
developing standards and technical reports.
A document is available from ANSI, "Procedures for the Development and
Coordination of American National Standards", at no charge. This document is
also on the WWW at http://www.ncits.org/help/ansi_sdo.html. Section1.2.11
contains the ANSI patent policy. Amy Marasco manages patent issues for ANSI
and can be contacted at amarasco at ansi.org or 212-642-4954.
A call for patents was made. There were no responses.
7. Review of Old Action Items
338) Larry Lamers will request minutes for the June 1999 CAM-3 review
meeting from Bill Dallas. Complete
362) Ralph Weber will ensure that the policy of requiring a two-thirds vote
to approve the scheduling of a plenary meeting outside the 48 contiguous
United States gets recorded in a T10 policies document. Carryover
363) Larry Lamers will provide the SPI-3 editor with a file containing the
electronic image used in the SPI dedication (Unable to Complete) or John
Lohmeyer will contact Dave Deming to obtain the file. Carryover
364) John Lohmeyer will notify the T10 reflector that March 2000 meeting
will consider withdrawing CAM-3. Complete.
365) John Lohmeyer will add an item to the March 2000 agenda to consider
withdrawing CAM-3. Complete.
366) John Lohmeyer will add an item to the March 2000 agenda to consider
withdrawing MMC at ISO/IEC. Complete.
367) George Penokie will provide SPI-3 revision 13 and 13a to the T10 chair.
Complete.
368) John Lohmeyer will forward SPI-3 revision 13a to NCITS for processing
toward first public review. Complete.
369) John Lohmeyer will add an item to the March 2000 agenda to discuss
large addressing issues in SSC. Complete.
370) Ralph Weber will create an SPC-2 version descriptor for SPI-3 revision
13a. Carryover and 13b
371) Ralph Weber will assign SPC-2 standard code values to the four projects
whose approval was announced at this meeting. Complete
8. Project Status Reports
8.1 Project Status Summary and NCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]
John Lohmeyer said that the current T10 project status summary was included in
the T10 Information Packages distributed prior to the meeting and will be
included in the mailing as usual. John announced that ANSI had withdrawn SCC,
SPI, SPI Amendment #1, SIP, and Fast-20 on January 19, 2000 as T10 had
requested.
8.2 SCSI Common Access Method - 3 (CAM-3) Status {Project 990-D} [Dallas]
John Lohmeyer reported that Bill Dallas has been assigned to another project
and no longer can work on CAM-3. He noted that no one has responded a request
for an editor for CAM-3. Additional action was taken on CAM-3 under item
10.3.
8.3 SCSI-3 Stream Commands (SSC) Status {Project 997-D} [Peterson]
John Lohmeyer reported that the public review for SSC closes on March 26.
Additional action on SSC topics was taken under item 10.2.
8.4 SCSI Fibre Channel Protocol - 2 (FCP-2) {Project 1144-D} [Snively]
Bob Snively noted that meetings earlier in the week resolved about a quarter
of the technical comments (minutes in 00-182 and 00-156). The total comments
received were about 1,300. A meeting Wednesday afternoon 5 April (the next
T11 week) will continue reviewing the comments. Further comments review will
occur at meetings held on Monday 15 May meeting in the next T10 meeting week.
Bob was unwilling to predict when the comments resolution process will be
completed.
8.5 SCSI Architecture Model - 2 (SAM-2) {Project 1157-D} [Weber]
Ralph Weber reported that SAM-2 revision 12 remains the current revision. The
working group is discussing the model for devices with multiple ports and
agreement on a change proposal is possible at the May meetings (minutes in
00-156). Also, the proposal to add a COMMAND CLEARED status will be written
as a formal change proposal for review at the May meetings.
8.6 Multimedia Command Set - 2 (MMC-2) Status {Project 1228-D} [McFerrin]
John Lohmeyer reported that the NCITS letter ballot on MMC-2 resulted in two
negative votes. The votes arose from a reference to "DVD+RW" that was
described as an "obsolete reference" that Hitachi suggested should be changed
to "+RW". John Lohmeyer reported on the following recommendation from the MMC
Working Group:
By a vote of 5:1:0 the MMC working group recommends that T10 respectfully
decline to make any changes in the DVD+RW references in BSR NCITS.333-200x
(MMC-2). The nomenclature for disks of the format known as +RW must contain
the prefix, "DVD" in order to avoid confusion about the purpose of the format
within this standard.
Han Zou explained that the DVD+RW reference is obsolete and expressed concern
that the MMC Working Group recommendation fails to address the obsolete nature
of the reference. He further noted that the description in the current
MMC-2 is for a 3.0 GB DVD+RW, which has become an obsolete concept.
Gary Robinson noted that changing the document both delays processing the
standard and perhaps substantially so because the references are not fully
established. He further suggested that the ISO processing of MMC-2 would be a
more appropriate forum for resolving the references issues.
Bill McFerrin moved that T10 accept the MMC working group recommendation that
the nomenclature for discs of the format known as +RW must contain the prefix,
"DVD", in order to avoid confusion about the purpose of the format within this
standard and that T10 recommend that BSR NCITS.333-200x (MMC-2) not be changed
as suggested by the NCITS negatives. Mark Evans seconded the motion.
The group discussed the relationship between ANSI standards and other
non-accredited standards.
On a roll call vote, the motion passed on a vote of 23:2:6:9=40. The details
of the vote are as follows:
Organization Voter Yes No Abs NP
Adaptec, Inc. Mr. Lawrence J. Lamers 1
Advansys 1
AMP, Inc. Mr. Charles Brill 1
Amphenol Interconnect Mr. Bill Mable 1
Ancot Corp. 1
Berg Electronics Mr. Douglas Wagner 1
BREA Technologies, Inc. Mr. Bill Galloway 1
Circuit Assembly Corp. Mr. Dennis Lang 1
CMD Technology Mr. Edward Haske 1
Compaq Computer Corp. Mr. Robert C. Elliott 1
Crossroads Systems, Inc. Mr. Neil Wanamaker 1
Dallas Semiconductor 1
Dell Computer Mr. William Dawkins 1
ENDL Texas Mr. Ralph O. Weber 1
Fujitsu Mr. Eugene Lew 1
General Dynamics Mr. Nathan Hastad 1
Hewlett Packard Co. Mr. Steve Jerman 1
Hitachi Cable Manchester,Inc Mr. Zane Daggett 1
Honda Connectors 1
IBM Corp. Mr. George O. Penokie 1
Iomega Corp. Mr. Tim Bradshaw 1
KnowledgeTek, Inc. 1
Linfinity Micro Mr. Louis Grantham 1
LSI Logic Corp. Mr. John Lohmeyer 1 IV
Madison Cable Corp. 1
Maxtor Corp. Mr. Pete McLean 1
Molex Inc. Mr. Jay Neer 1
NSTOR 1
Ophidian Designs Mr. Edward A. Gardner 1 IV
Panasonic Technologies, Inc Mr. Han Zou 1
Philips Electronics Mr. William P. McFerrin 1
QLogic Corp. 1
Quantum Corp. Mr. Mark Evans 1
Seagate Technology Mr. Gene Milligan 1 IV
Storage Technology Corp. Mr. Erich Oetting 1
Sun Microsystems Computer Co Mr. Robert N. Snively 1
Texas Instruments Mr. Paul D. Aloisi 1
Toshiba America Elec. Comp. Mr. Tasuku Kasebayashi 1
UNISYS Corporation Mr. Kenneth J. Hallam 1
Western Digital Corporation 1
Totals: 23 2 6 9 = 40
IV - Individual Vote
John Lohmeyer, George Penokie, Gene Milligan, and Zane Daggett stated that
they cast votes of abstain based on the fact that they were not materially
affected by the outcome of the vote. Bill Dawkins and Tomas Kulesza stated
that they cast votes of abstain based on lack of expertise regarding the
subject.
John Lohmeyer took an action item to communicate to NCITS the T10
recommendation that BSR NCITS.333-200x not be changed.
8.7 SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (SPC-2) Status {Project 1236-D} [Weber]
Ralph Weber reported that SPC-2 revision 16 containing the changes approved by
this meeting will be ready for the next mailing. He announced that he would
be requesting a forwarding letter ballot following the May meetings and that
he would lobby for placing major proposals such as Access Controls in SPC-3 at
the May meetings.
8.8 Reduced Block Commands (RBC) {Project 1240-D} [McLean]
Pete McLean reported that RBC has passed public review with no comments and is
ready to go to NCITS letter ballot and NCITS approval is expected in April.
8.9 SCSI Parallel Interface - 3 (SPI-3) {Project 1302-D} [Penokie]
George Penokie reported that SPI-3 revision 13b was prepared to resolve
concerns expressed by NCITS.
Gene Milligan moved that T10 approve the changes in SPI-3 revision 13b as not
substantive. Neil Wanamaker seconded the motion. Larry Lamers requested that
consideration of the motion be deferred based on SPI-3 revision 13b not being
available two weeks prior to the meeting.
Dal Allan expressed concerns about the SPI-3 revision 13b changes moving the
document away from the ISO style guide. Dal Allan moved that the T10 chair be
instructed to initiate an investigation concerning why T10 was requested to
prepare SPI-3 in a format that appears to conflict with the ISO/IEC JTC1 Style
Guide (e.g., removal of the document title at the foot of each page) and
report to the next meeting. Gene Milligan seconded the motion. The motion
passed 23:0:2:15=40.
John Lohmeyer took an action item to initiate an investigation concerning why
T10 was requested to prepare SPI-3 in a format that appears to conflict with
the ISO/IEC JTC1 Style Guide (e.g., removal of the document title at the foot
of each page) and report to the next meeting.
Larry Lamers asked that the T10 web site pointer be changed to point to SPI-3
revision 13a until 13b receives T10 approval. John said that the change would
take effect the next time he updates the web site.
8.10 MultiMedia Command Set - 3 (MMC-3) {Project 1363-D} [McFerrin]
Bill McFerrin reported that Ron Roberts brought in a new revision of MMC-3
that was reviewed in the working group meeting (minutes in 00-177). Bill
announced the possibility of holding an MMC-3 review meeting outside the T10
meeting week, and asked that one such meeting be authorized between April 15
and the May meeting week.
8.11 Reduced MultiMedia Command Set (RMC) {Project 1364-D} [McFerrin]
Bill McFerrin reported that the RMC draft has not been revised since the last
meeting. He stated that the project leader has been asked to determine
whether continued work is necessary on RMC.
8.12 SCSI Parallel Interface - 4 (SPI-4) {Project 1365-D} [Penokie]
George Penokie reported on the activities of the SPI-4 Working Group meetings
(minutes in 00-134 and 00-155) He stated that the first revision of SPI-4 is
planned in the middle of May. He stated that the performance goals of SPI-4
appear achievable but details of the driver/receiver technology are still
being negotiated.
George announced that the next meeting of the SPI-4 Working Group meeting will
be on March 27 and 28 in Milpitas, CA. He asked that everyone be aware that
both physical and protocol topics will be discussed at the meeting and stated
that protocol topics (e.g., margin control and flow control) will be discussed
in the afternoon of the second day. George announced that another SPI-4
Working Group meeting will be on April 26 and 27 in Colorado Springs, CO.
8.13 SCSI Domain Validation Technical Report (SDV) {Project 1378-DT}
[Lamers]
Larry Lamers reported that the first revision of the draft technical report is
on the T10 web site and requested time in future working group meetings to
review it.
8.14 SCSI on Scheduled Transfer (SST) {Project 1380-D} [Woelz]
John Lohmeyer reported that Don Woelz requested authorization for an SST
working group meetings held on the Wednesday of the T11 meeting weeks in April
and June.
8.15 SCSI Medium Changer Commands - 2 (SMC-2) {Project 1383-D} [Oetting]
Erich Oetting reported that a first revision SMC-2 should be available for the
mailing. He agreed to incorporate the SMC-2 material from Annex B of SPC-2
and noted that other SMC corrections will appear in the first SMC-2 revision.
8.16 SCSI Signal Modeling (SSM) {Project 1414-DT} [Aloisi]
Paul Aloisi reported on the activities of the Signal Modeling Working Group
(minutes in 00-146r1 and 00-163r0). He noted that the T10 web site will be
used to coordinate the activities of the working group.
Dean Wallace was given an action item to lead the SSM working group in
preparation of a press release regarding the usage of the T10 web site that
John Lohmeyer can forward to NCITS for distribution. John Lohmeyer took an
item to forward the SSM press release to NCITS.
At the request of Bill Ham, Zane Daggett was given an action item to prepare a
project proposal for the SCSI Passive Interconnect Performance technical
report.
8.17 SCSI VI Protocol (SVP) {Project 1415-D} [Gardner]
Ed Gardner reported on the activities of the CAP working group regarding
document 00-172r0 (minutes in 00-156). He stated that a first revision of SVP
will be available more than two weeks before the next meeting.
8.18 SCSI Primary Commands - 3 (SPC-3) {Project 1416-D} [Weber]
Ralph Weber reported that a first draft of SPC-3 will be available as soon as
changes are approved for inclusion in it, which might be as early as following
the May meeting.
8.19 SCSI Block Commands - 2 (SBC-2) {Project 1417-D} [Milligan]
Gene Milligan reviewed the proposals known to be approved for SBC-2 and the
schedule for SBC-2 (00-180r0) and the activities of the CAP working group
(minutes in 00-156). There were no objections to the schedule for SBC-2
proposed in 00-180, which included new proposal cut off in November 2000,
stabilization in March 2001, and letter ballot in May 2001.
9. Old Business
9.1 Report on T10 Procedures Study Group Meeting [Lohmeyer]
John reported that the T10 procedures study group did not hold a meeting this
week. He then briefly described the activities of the January study group
(see description in January plenary minutes, 00-122).
9.2 Project proposal for object-based storage devices command set (OSD)
(99-312r0) [Milligan]
Consideration of the following motion was deferred from the January `00
meeting:
"that the OSD project proposal be forwarded to NCITS for processing."
The motion passed on a vote of 23:1:1:15=40. Bob Snively stated that his no
vote based on the belief that project is a solution is search of a problem.
Bill Dawkins stated that his abstention was based on lack of expertise
regarding the subject.
John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward the OSD project proposal to NCITS
within 72 hours. Ralph Weber took an action item to add OSD to the device
types and version descriptors in SPC-2.
Gene Milligan reported that the next revision of the draft OSD standard will
be available before the May meeting.
9.3 Editing RBC for ISO/IEC (99-284r0) [Roberts]
John Lohmeyer reported that during the January `00 meeting he had incorrectly
reported the amount of the bid from Don Tolmie on editing RBC for ISO/IEC.
The Tolmie bid is now $3,500. The committee expressed no interest in the
development of an ISO/IEC version of RBC.
John Lohmeyer took an action item to send letters to Ron Roberts and Don
Tolmie thanking them for bidding on the conversion RBC to ISO/IEC and
informing them that T10 has decided not to pursue the project.
10. New Business
10.1 Actions on Working Group Recommendations
10.1.1 Proposal for LVD Bus Length (00-170r1) [Evans]
Mark Evans moved that 00-170r1 (Proposal for LVD Bus Length) be accepted for
inclusion in SPI-4. Gene Milligan seconded the motion. The motion passed on a
vote of 21:0:2:17=40.
10.1.2 Beyond 2TBytes (99-259r4) [Penokie]
George Penokie moved that 99-259r4 (Beyond 2TBytes) be accepted for inclusion
in SPC-2 and SBC-2. Gene Milligan seconded the motion. The motion passed on
a vote of 22:0:0:18=40.
10.1.3 READ/WRITE BUFFER Behavior During Domain Validation (99-306r2)
[Elliott]
Rob Elliott moved that 99-306r2 (READ/WRITE BUFFER Behavior During Domain
Validation) be accepted for inclusion in SPC-2. Larry Lamers seconded the
motion. The motion passed on a vote of 24:0:0:16=40.
10.1.4 SPC-2 Echo Buffer Size (00-109r3) [Elliott]
Rob Elliott moved that 00-109r3 (SPC-2 Echo Buffer Size) be accepted for
inclusion in SPC-2. Larry Lamers seconded the motion. The motion passed on a
vote of 24:0:0:16=40.
10.1.5 Adding Reserved Bytes to EXTENDED COPY Parameter Data (00-165r0)
[Weber]
Ralph Weber moved that 00-165r0 (Adding Reserved Bytes to EXTENDED COPY
Parameter Data) in SPC-2. Neil Wanamaker seconded the motion. The motion
passed on a vote of 22:0:2:16=40.
10.1.6 Task Set Full Clarification (99-343) [Snively]
Bob Snively explained the contents of 99-343r1 to the committee. Bob Snively
moved that 99-343r1 (Task Set Full Clarification) be included in SAM-2. Gene
Milligan seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 13:0:4:23=40.
10.2 Large addressing issues in SSC [Suhler]
10.2.1 Reject Public Review Comment on SSC [Suhler]
Paul Suhler moved that the public review comment on SSC be rejected and that
the content of the of the comment be considered for a future version of the
SSC standard under proposal T10/00-161. Erich Oetting seconded the motion.
On a roll call vote, the motion passed 25:0:3:12=40. The details of the roll
call vote are as follows:
Organization Voter Yes No Abs NP
Adaptec, Inc. Mr. Lawrence J. Lamers 1
Advansys 1
AMP, Inc. Mr. Charles Brill 1
Amphenol Interconnect 1
Ancot Corp. 1
Berg Electronics 1
BREA Technologies, Inc. Mr. Bill Galloway 1
Circuit Assembly Corp. Mr. Dennis Lang 1
CMD Technology Mr. Edward Haske 1
Compaq Computer Corp. Mr. Robert C. Elliott 1
Crossroads Systems, Inc. Mr. Neil Wanamaker 1
Dallas Semiconductor Mr. Charles Tashbook 1
Dell Computer Mr. William Dawkins 1
ENDL Texas Mr. Ralph O. Weber 1
Fujitsu Mr. Eugene Lew 1
General Dynamics Mr. Nathan Hastad 1
Hewlett Packard Co. Mr. Steve Jerman 1
Hitachi Cable Manchester,Inc Mr. Zane Daggett 1
Honda Connectors 1
IBM Corp. Mr. George O. Penokie 1
Iomega Corp. Mr. Tim Bradshaw 1
KnowledgeTek, Inc. 1
Linfinity Micro Mr. Louis Grantham 1
LSI Logic Corp. Mr. John Lohmeyer 1
Madison Cable Corp. Ms. Jie Fan 1
Maxtor Corp. Mr. Pete McLean 1
Molex Inc. 1
NSTOR 1
Ophidian Designs 1
Panasonic Technologies, Inc Mr. Han Zou 1
Philips Electronics Mr. William P. McFerrin 1
QLogic Corp. 1
Quantum Corp. Mr. Mark Evans 1
Seagate Technology Mr. Gene Milligan 1
Storage Technology Corp. Mr. Erich Oetting 1
Sun Microsystems Computer Co Mr. Robert N. Snively 1
Texas Instruments Mr. Paul D. Aloisi 1
Toshiba America Elec. Comp. Mr. Tasuku Kasebayashi 1
UNISYS Corporation 1
Western Digital Corporation 1
Totals: 25 0 3 12 = 40
IV - Individual Vote
Han Zou, Bill Dawkins, and Dennis Lang stated that they abstained based on a
lack of expertise regarding the subject.
John Lohmeyer took an action item to thank Paul Suhler for his public review
comment on SSC and inform Paul of his right to appeal the T10 decision.
10.2.2 Support for Large Block Addresses in SSC-2 (00-135r2) [Suhler]
Gene Milligan moved that 00-135r2 (Support for Large Block Addresses in SSC-2)
be accepted for inclusion in SSC-2. Erich Oetting seconded the motion. The
motion passed on a vote of 28:0:0:12=40.
10.3 Consideration of withdrawing the CAM-3 project 990-D
John Lohmeyer reported that the CAM-3 project has no editor and no one has
volunteered to edit CAM-3 in response to an e-mail request and that no
progress has been made on the CAM-3 project for months. Neil Wanamaker moved
that T10 recommend to NCITS that project 990-D (CAM-3) be withdrawn. Bob
Snively seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 25:0:0:15=40.
John Lohmeyer took an action item to notify NCITS that T10 recommends
withdrawing project 990-D (CAM-3).
10.4 IEEE Usage of T10 Vendor ID List [Lohmeyer]
John Lohmeyer reported on a request from an IEEE group to include the T10
vendor ID list in a list maintained by that organization. Discussion of the
request revealed that not enough was known about the situation to make an
informed response. Bob Snively volunteered to take an action item to discuss
the use of the T10 vendor ID list by IEEE p1244 with the IEEE group.
10.5 Call for Volunteers to Chair T10
John Lohmeyer reported that NCITS is seeking volunteers to chair T10 for the
next three years (see 00-179). He noted that the call closes May 30, 2000.
In response to questions from the floor, John stated that he had not yet found
time to discuss re-applying for the position with his management.
10.6 T10 Style Guide and Templates
Gene Milligan reported that the T13 Style Guide, ISO/IEC Style Guide, and IEC
Word template files had been forwarded to the T10 chair. He noted that the
goal of this effort was creation of a T10 style guide and templates.
John and Gene discussed the particulars of how the files could be made
available to committee members for consideration. George Penokie and Mark
Evans volunteered review the style materials.
John agreed keep this agenda item on the May meeting agenda, titled "T10 Style
Guide and Templates Project Report". Gene agreed to forward the files to
those interested in reviewing them.
11. ISO/IEC
11.1 ISO/IEC Report [Milligan]
Gene Milligan presented the ISO/IEC report; the electronic version is in
00-180.
John Lohmeyer reported on the activities regarding the Optical Memory Card
ISO/IEC standard, which involved two accelerated T10 letter ballots
(documented in 00-009, 00-010, 00-011, and 00-012).
11.2 ISO/IEC Business [Milligan]
11.2.1 Forwarding SSC to ISO/IEC [Milligan]
Consideration of the following motion was deferred from the January `00
meeting:
""T10 forward SSC to ISO/IEC for processing."
Gene Milligan moved to amend the motion to read: "T10 recommends submission of
an NWI proposal and simultaneous CD letter ballot for both SSC revision 22 (or
latest revision) and SPI-3 revision 13b". In the absence of any objections,
the motion to amend was approved unanimously.
The amended motion passed on a vote of 22:0:0:18=40. Details of the roll call
vote were as follows:
Organization Voter Yes No Abs NP
Adaptec, Inc. Mr. Lawrence J. Lamers 1
Advansys 1
AMP, Inc. 1
Amphenol Interconnect 1
Ancot Corp. 1
Berg Electronics 1
BREA Technologies, Inc. Mr. Bill Galloway 1
Circuit Assembly Corp. 1
CMD Technology Mr. Edward Haske 1
Compaq Computer Corp. Dr. William Ham 1
Crossroads Systems, Inc. Mr. Neil Wanamaker 1
Dallas Semiconductor Mr. Charles Tashbook 1
Dell Computer Mr. William Dawkins 1
ENDL Texas Mr. Ralph O. Weber 1 IV
Fujitsu Mr. Eugene Lew 1
General Dynamics Mr. Nathan Hastad 1
Hewlett Packard Co. 1
Hitachi Cable Manchester,Inc 1
Honda Connectors 1
IBM Corp. Mr. George O. Penokie 1
Iomega Corp. 1
KnowledgeTek, Inc. 1
Linfinity Micro Mr. Louis Grantham 1
LSI Logic Corp. Mr. John Lohmeyer 1
Madison Cable Corp. 1
Maxtor Corp. Mr. Pete McLean 1
Molex Inc. 1
NSTOR 1
Ophidian Designs 1
Panasonic Technologies, Inc Mr. Han Zou 1
Philips Electronics Mr. William P. McFerrin 1
QLogic Corp. 1
Quantum Corp. Mr. Mark Evans 1
Seagate Technology Mr. Gene Milligan 1
Storage Technology Corp. Mr. Erich Oetting 1
Sun Microsystems Computer Co Mr. Robert N. Snively 1
Texas Instruments Mr. Paul D. Aloisi 1
Toshiba America Elec. Comp. Mr. Tasuku Kasebayashi 1
UNISYS Corporation 1
Western Digital Corporation 1
Totals: 22 0 0 18 = 40
IV - Individual Vote
Gene Milligan took an action item to submit a NWI proposal and request for
simultaneous CD letter ballot for both SSC revision 22 (or latest revision)
and SPI-3 revision 13b
11.2.2 Forwarding SPI-3 to ISO/IEC [Milligan]
Consideration of the following motion was deferred from the January `00
meeting:
"that T10 submit a NWIP for SPI-3 with a contribution of SPI-3 revision 13a
for simultaneous CD."
Consideration of this motion was covered by the amended motion in item 11.2.1.
11.2.3 Withdrawing ISO/IEC project on MMC [McFerrin]
Bill McFerrin reported that people are already referencing MMC-2 and MMC is
very out of date. There is no value in taking MMC to ISO/IEC. Bill McFerrin
moved that T10 recommend the withdrawal of MMC from ISO/IEC processing. Mark
Evans seconded the motion.
The motion passed on a vote of 20:1:2:17=40. Details of the roll call vote
were as follows:
Organization Voter Yes No Abs NP
Adaptec, Inc. Mr. Lawrence J. Lamers 1
Advansys 1
AMP, Inc. 1
Amphenol Interconnect 1
Ancot Corp. 1
Berg Electronics 1
BREA Technologies, Inc. Mr. Bill Galloway 1
Circuit Assembly Corp. 1
CMD Technology Mr. Edward Haske 1
Compaq Computer Corp. Mr. Robert Elliott 1
Crossroads Systems, Inc. Mr. Neil Wanamaker 1
Dallas Semiconductor Mr. Charles Tashbook 1
Dell Computer Mr. William Dawkins 1
ENDL Texas Mr. Ralph O. Weber 1 IV
Fujitsu Mr. Eugene Lew 1
General Dynamics Mr. Nathan Hastad 1
Hewlett Packard Co. 1
Hitachi Cable Manchester,Inc 1
Honda Connectors 1
IBM Corp. Mr. George O. Penokie 1
Iomega Corp. 1
KnowledgeTek, Inc. 1
Linfinity Micro Mr. Louis Grantham 1
LSI Logic Corp. Mr. John Lohmeyer 1
Madison Cable Corp. 1
Maxtor Corp. Mr. Pete McLean 1
Molex Inc. 1
NSTOR 1
Ophidian Designs 1
Panasonic Technologies, Inc Mr. Han Zou 1
Philips Electronics Mr. William P. McFerrin 1
QLogic Corp. Mr. Skip Jones 1
Quantum Corp. Mr. Mark Evans 1
Seagate Technology Mr. Gene Milligan 1 IV
Storage Technology Corp. Mr. Erich Oetting 1
Sun Microsystems Computer Co Mr. Robert N. Snively 1
Texas Instruments Mr. Paul D. Aloisi 1
Toshiba America Elec. Comp. Mr. Tasuku Kasebayashi 1
UNISYS Corporation 1
Western Digital Corporation 1
Totals: 20 1 2 17 = 40
IV - Individual Vote
Gene Milligan stated that his no vote was because the T10 recommendation was
inconsistent its action on MMC at ANSI, where there is no recommendation to
withdraw. Han Zou stated that his abstention was based on lack of knowledge
regarding the consequences of the vote. Bill Dawkins stated that his
abstention was based on lack of expertise regarding the subject.
Gene Milligan took an action item to notify the JTC 1 TAG of the T10
recommendation to withdraw MMC from ISO/IEC processing.
11.2.4 Potential Approval of SBP-2 [Milligan]
John Lohmeyer agreed to maintain this item on the May agenda for the purpose
of conducting a roll call vote on ISO/IEC fast track processing of SBP-2.
11.2.5 Approval of Working Group 4 Delegation [Milligan]
Gene Milligan asked if any T10 members wish to participate in the WG 4
Delegation. He then stated that the delegation would be Kumar Malavalli and
Gene Milligan. In the absence of any objections, the committee unanimously
approved the delegation.
12. Liaison Reports
12.1 T11 Liaison Report [Wanamaker]
Neil Wanamaker reported on the activities of T11 and provided an electronic
report that is available in 00-176.
12.2 T13 Liaison Report [Milligan]
Gene Milligan reported on the February meeting of T13 in Placerville, CA. He
noted that the ATA/ATAPI video work and the revised definition of partition
tables may have accounted for a larger than usual attendance. ATA/ATAPI-5
comments resolution was completed. Review of version 3 of the enhanced BIOS
specification was completed and a letter ballot will be held soon. A special
working group meeting on video will be held on March 21 and 22 in Redmond and
the April T13 meeting will be held in Boulder, CO on April 18 through 21.
More information is available at www.t13.org.
12.3 SFF Industry Group [Allan]
Dal Allan provided the following electronic report:
The issue over patents with HSSDC has been resolved by replacing the figures
in the specification which do not identify the patented feature. A letter
stating that nothing in the patent is required to implement HSSDC will be
provided by FCI.
Effort has begun on the backplane project to analyze 100-pin SCA-2 to
determine whether it can meet the characteristics required of dual port 12 Gbs
performance. The initial results are optimistic.
The drawing provided for current generation 5 1/4" CD ROMs which was used to
update SFF-8551 will be redrawn with superfluous features removed and some
dimensions identified as max instead of with tolerances.
Rev 4.0 of INF-8090 for ATAPI DVD has been completed and is ready for
distribution in the next mailing.
The optical testing SSWG is proceeding well with identification of a large
variety of factors which affect the testing process and fixtures as well as
the components under test.
12.4 IEEE 1394 [Johansson]
Larry Lamers reported that the second ballot on p1394a closed recently.
Revision 1 of 1394b is available. The 1394 trade association is voting on the
device bay proposal.
12.5 IEEE P1285 Status
Bob Snively offered to verify that p1285 is still "alive".
12.6 SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Jones/Aloisi]
Paul Aloisi reported on the activities of STA and provided an electronic
report that can be found in 00-183.
12.7 Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) [Robinson]
Gary Robinson reported on the activities of the IETF directed toward
transporting SCSI over IP (Internet Protocol). He recommended that T10 work
to develop a liaison with the IETF group that is working on a SCSI definition.
Gary asked that the next meeting include a new business agenda item to
identify a liaison to the project.
13. Review of Action Items
362) Ralph Weber will ensure that the policy of requiring a two-thirds vote
to approve the scheduling of a plenary meeting outside the 48 contiguous
United States gets recorded in a T10 policies document.
363) John Lohmeyer will contact Dave Deming to obtain the file containing
the electronic image used in the SPI dedication for use in SPI-3.
370) Ralph Weber will create an SPC-2 version descriptors for SPI-3
revisions 13a and 13b.
372) Bob Snively will generate a correction proposal for FC-FS table 79 that
currently contains incorrect definitions for the reason codes for LS_RJT.
373) George Penokie will build a model that shows the impact of the times
required for training on packetized performance.
374) John Lohmeyer will communicate to NCITS the T10 recommendation that BSR
NCITS.333-200x (MMC-2) not be changed.
375) John Lohmeyer will initiate an investigation concerning why T10 was
requested to prepare SPI-3 in a format that appears to conflict with the
ISO/IEC JTC1 Style Guide (e.g., removal of the document title at the foot of
each page) and report to the next meeting.
376) Dean Wallace will lead the SSM working group in preparation of a press
release regarding the usage of the T10 web site that John Lohmeyer can forward
to NCITS for distribution.
377) John Lohmeyer will forward the SSM press release to NCITS.
378) Zane Daggett will prepare a project proposal for the SCSI Passive
Interconnect Performance technical report.
379) John Lohmeyer will forward the OSD project proposal to NCITS within 72
hours.
380) John Lohmeyer will thank Paul Suhler for his public review comment on
SSC and inform Paul of the T10 action regarding the comment.
381) John Lohmeyer will notify NCITS that T10 recommends withdrawing project
990-D (CAM-3).
382) Bob Snively will discuss the use of the T10 vendor ID list by IEEE
p1244 and report to T10 at the May meeting.
383) Gene Milligan will submit a NWI proposal and request for simultaneous
CD letter ballot for both SSC revision 22 (or latest revision) and SPI-3
revision 13b.
384) Gene Milligan will notify the JTC 1 TAG of the T10 recommendation to
withdraw MMC from ISO/IEC processing.
385) John Lohmeyer will make the source files for SSC revision 22 (or latest
revision) and SPI-3 revision 13b available to Gene Milligan.
386) Ralph Weber will add OSD to the device types and version descriptors in
SPC-2.
387) John Lohmeyer will send letters to Ron Roberts and Don Tolmie thanking
them for bidding on the conversion RBC to ISO/IEC and informing them that T10
has decided not to pursue the project.
14. Meeting Schedule
The next plenary meeting of T10 will be May 18, 2000 in Nashua, NH at the
Sheraton Nashua Hotel (603) 888-9970, hosted by Hitachi Cable Manchester. The
meeting will begin at 9:00 a.m. on Thursday.
The meeting list for the next plenary week is:
May '00 Meeting Map
(3/09/00 Version)
Monday 5/15 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
+===============+===================+
|Joint T10/T11.3|SCSI CAP WG | (60)
+===============+===================+
| T10 Proc. SG. | (20)
+===============+-------------------+
| Mt. Fuji - 4 WG | (20)
+-----------------------------------+
Tuesday 5/16 8 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
+===========================================+
| Parallel SCSI WG | (60)
+===================================+=======+
| MMC WG | (20)
+---+===================================+
|T11 ad hocs | (40)
+---------------------------------------+
Wednesday 5/17 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
+=======================================+
| SCSI Commands, Arch., & Protocol WG | (60)
+===============================+=======+
| MMC WG | (20)
+===================+===========+-------+
| SFF WG | SFF | (40)
+-----------+-------+
Thursday 5/18 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+=================+---------------------+
| T10 Plenary / STA Tech (*) | (7/40)
+===========+====+----------+-----------+
| STA Marcom | (15)
+---------------+
(*) - STA Technical meeting (includes SCSI Harbor) begins 30 minutes
after the T10 plenary meeting but not before 1:30 pm
Friday 5/19 8 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5
+-----------------------------+
| SCSI Trade Association (STA)| (30)
+-----------------------------+
Meetings marked with == are T10-authorized meetings.
Meetings marked with -- are authorized by other groups and may change
without notice.
Other T10-authorized meetings:
Meeting Date Location / Contact
-------------- ------------------ --------------------------------------
Access Controls 03/15/00 Wed TBD Teleconference / Elliott
Par. SCSI WG 03/27/00 Mon 1:00p Milpitas, CA / Lamers
03/28/00 Tue 9:00a Milpitas, CA / Lamers
Joint T11.3/T10 04/05/00 Wed~1:00p San Diego, CA / T11
SST WG 04/05/00 Wed 9:00a San Diego, CA / T11
Cable Perf. SG 04/11/00 Tue 9:00a Milpitas, CA / Abou-Jeyab
SCSI Model WG 04/12/00 Wed 9:00a Milpitas, CA / Abou-Jeyab
Access Controls 04/12/00 Wed TBD Teleconference / Elliott
MMC-3 WG late April TBD Placerville, CA / Roberts
Par. SCSI WG 04/26/00 Wed 1:00p Colo Spgs, CO / Lohmeyer
04/27/00 Thu 9:00a Colo Spgs, CO / Lohmeyer
Joint T11.3/T10 06/__/00 ___ _:__ Boise, ID / T11
SST WG 06/07/00 Wed 9:00a Boise, ID / T11
Cable Perf. 06/12-13 Mon-Tue Chicago, IL / Ogbuokiri
SSM WG 06/13-14 Tue-Wed Chicago, IL / Ogbuokiri
Par. SCSI WG 06/15/00 Thu 9:00a Chicago, IL / Ogbuokiri
06/16/00 Fri 9:00a Chicago, IL / Ogbuokiri
Meeting Map Abbreviation Key:
Amnd: Amendment
Cable Perf.: Cable Performance Testing
CAM: Common Access Method
CAM-3: Next generation CAM for SCSI-3
CAP: Commands, Architecture, and Protocols
EPI: SCSI Enhanced Parallel Interface (Technical Report)
Fast-20: Data Transfer at 20 Mega-transfers/second (a.k.a., Ultra)
Fast-40: Data Transfer at 40 Mega-transfers/second (a.k.a., Ultra2)
Fast-80: Data Transfer at 80 Mega-transfers/second (a.k.a., Ultra3,
Ultra160)
Fast-160: Data Transfer at 160 Mega-transfers/second (a.k.a., Ultra4,
Ultra320)
FC: Fibre Channel
FC-AL: Fibre Channel - Arbitrated Loop (a T11 project)
FCLC: Fibre Channel Loop Community (not an NCITS activity)
I/F: Interface
HAP: High Availability Profile (Technical Report)
LB: Letter Ballot
MMC-2: Multimedia Commands - 2 (CD-ROM, DVD, etc.)
OBD_T: Object-Based Device Tutorial
Par.: Parallel (e.g., SPI-n, Domain Validation)
PH: Physical (Connectors, Cables, Transceivers, etc.)
Phys Test SG: Physical Test Planning Study Group
Plenary: Full Committee Meeting
RAID: Redundant Array of Independent Devices
RBC: Reduced Block Commands
SBC: SCSI-3 Block Commands
SBP-2: Serial Bus Protocol for IEEE 1394 (2nd generation protocol)
SCC-2: SCSI Controller Commands - 2 (2nd generation RAID command set)
SCSI: Small Computer System Interface
SES: SCSI Enclosure Services
SCSI Harbor: A STA project on defining a wrapper for SCSI devices
SFF: SFF Industry Group (not an NCITS activity)
SG: Study Group
SMC: SCSI-3 Medium Changer Commands
SPC-2: SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (2nd generation)
SPI-2: Second Generation SCSI Parallel Interface
SPI-3: Third Generation SCSI Parallel Interface
SPI-4: Fourth Generation SCSI Parallel Interface
SSA: Serial Storage Interface
SSC: SCSI-3 Stream Commands (includes Tape)
SSWGs: Specific-Subject Working Groups
STA: SCSI Trade Association (not an NCITS activity)
STA Tech: STA Technical Meeting (T10 members invited)
T10: Lower Level Interfaces Technical Committee
T10 Proc.: T10 Procedures
WG: Working Group (same as Ad Hoc Group)
For more information about T10 activities, please contact the following
people:
Activity Contact Telephone/Email
---------------------------- --------------- ------------------------------
EPI Bill Ham (508) 841-2629
bill.ham at digital.com
FCP-2, SES Robert Snively (415) 336-5332
Bob.Snively at eng.sun.com
SBC, SBC-2 Gene Milligan (405) 324-3070
gene_milligan at notes.seagate.com
MMC-2, MMC-3, RMC Bill McFerrin (303) 651-5400
BMcFerrin at aol.com
SBP-2 or RBC Pete McLean (303) 678-2149
pete_mclean at maxtor.com
SBP-2 Peter Johansson (510) 527-3926
pjohansson at aol.com
SCC-2, SPI-3, SPI-4 George Penokie (507) 253-5208
gop at us.ibm.com
SDV Larry Lamers (408) 957-7817
ljlamers at ieee.org
SMC, SMC-2 Erich Oetting (303) 673-2178
Erich_Oetting at Stortek.com
SPC-2, SPC-3, SAM-2 Ralph Weber (214) 912-1373
roweber at acm.org
SSC Dave Peterson (612) 391-1008
dap at network.com
SSM Dean Wallace (714) 668-5028
d_wallace at qlc.com
SVP Ed Gardner (719) 593-8866
eag at ophidian.com
Other Activities John Lohmeyer (719) 533-7560
lohmeyer at t10.org
The long-term T10 meeting week schedule is:
Date Location Host/Comments
------------------ ------------------------- -----------------------------
May 15-19, 2000 Nashua, NH Hitachi Cable / dates changed
Jul 10-14, 2000 Colorado Springs, CO LSI Logic
Sep 11-15, 2000 Huntington Beach, CA QLogic
Oct 30-Nov 3, 2000 Monterey, CA Adaptec / dates changed
Jan 15-19, 2001 Orlando, FL Adaptec (DPT Div.)
Mar 5-9, 2001 Dallas, TX Texas Instruments
May 7-11, 2001 Manchester, NH Hitachi Cable
Jul 16-20, 2001 Colorado Springs, CO LSI Logic
Sep 10-14, 2001 Huntington Beach, CA QLogic
Nov 5-9, 2001 Monterey, CA Adaptec
Larry Lamers moved that T10 reinstate the January 2001 meeting to be held in
Orlando, FL hosted by Adaptec/DPT. Zane Daggett seconded the motion. The
arguments for the January meeting week centered around the frequent scheduling
of ad hoc meetings in January anyway. The arguments against the January
meeting week centered around the lack of productive work at such meetings.
The motion passed on a vote of 14:3:2:21=40.
14.1 Authorization of Working Group Meetings
John noted that the working group meetings are required to operate under the
same voting procedures as does T10 (that is, one vote per organization) and
the results of a working group are not binding on the parent committee. Ad
hoc groups should strive to achieve consensus prior to bringing issues to T10.
Erich Oetting moved that T10 authorize the T10-related meetings and events in
the list above that had not previously been approved. Paul Aloisi seconded
the motion. The motion passed seconded.
15. Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 2:20 p.m. on Thursday March 9, 2000.
Enclosure(1) -- Meeting Attendees
Name S Organization Electronic Mail Address
---------------------- -- ------------------------- -------------------------
Mr. Lawrence J. Lamers P Adaptec, Inc. ljlamers at ieee.org
Mr. Vincent Bastiani A# Adaptec, Inc. bastiani at corp.adaptec.com
Mr. Charles Brill P AMP, Inc. cebrill at ix.netcom.com
Mr. Douglas Wagner P Berg Electronics wagnerdl at bergelect.com
Mr. Bill Galloway P BREA Technologies, Inc. billg at breatech.com
Mr. Dennis Lang A Circuit Assembly Corp. dennisl at circuitassembly.
com
Mr. Edward Haske P CMD Technology haske at cmd.com
Mr. Robert C. Elliott P Compaq Computer Corp. Rob_Elliott at compuserve.
com
Dr. William Ham A Compaq Computer Corp. bill.ham at digital.com
Mr. John Tyndall A Crossroads Systems, Inc. jtyndall at crossroads.com
Mr. Rick DeMars V CTS rdemars at ctscorp.com
Mr. Charles Tashbook P Dallas Semiconductor charles.tashbook at dalsemi.
com
Mr. Bill Anderson O DDK Electronics bill_anderson@
ddkconnectors.com
Mr. William Dawkins O Dell Computer bill_dawkins at dell.com
Mr. Ralph O. Weber A ENDL Texas roweber at acm.org
Mr. Eugene Lew P Fujitsu elew at fcpa.fujitsu.com
Mr. Nathan Hastad P General Dynamics nathan.j.hastad at gd-is.com
Mr. Zane Daggett P Hitachi Cable Manchester, zdaggett at hcm.hitachi.com
Inc
Mr. George O. Penokie P IBM Corp. gop at us.ibm.com
Mr. John Lohmeyer P LSI Logic Corp. lohmeyer at t10.org
Mr. Frank Gasparik V LSI Logic Corp. frank.gasparik at lsil.com
Mr. William Petty V LSI Logic Corp. william.petty at lsil.com
Mr. Andrew Brown V LSI Logic Corp. andrew.brown at lsil.com
Mr. Brian Day V LSI Logic Corp. brian.day at lsil.com
Mr. Mark Strauss V Lucent Technologies msstrauss at lucent.com
Mr. W. Hunsicker V Lucent Technologies whunsicker at lucent.com
Mr. Makeshwar V Lucent Technologies makesh at lucent.com
Kothandaraman
Ms. Jie Fan P Madison Cable Corp. jfan at madisoncable.com
Mr. Jay Neer P Molex Inc. jneer at molex.com
Ms. Betty Akeredolu O Molex Inc. bakeredolu at molex.com
Mr. Galen Fromm V Molex Inc. gfromm at molex.com
Mr. Richard Moore A# QLogic Corp. r_moore at qlc.com
Mr. Ting Li Chan V QLogic Corp. t_chan at qlc.com
Mr. Richard L. V QLogic Corp.
Rananiec
Mr. Mark Evans P Quantum Corp. mark.evans at quantum.com
Mr. Russ Brown V Quantum Corp. russ.brown at quantum.com
Mr. Bruce Leshay V Quantum Corp. bleshay at tdh.qntm.com
Mr. Gene Milligan P Seagate Technology Gene_Milligan at notes.
seagate.com
Mr. Gerald Houlder A Seagate Technology gerry_houlder at notes.
seagate.com
Mr. Daniel (Dan) F. O Seagate Technology daniel_f_smith at notes.
Smith seagate.com
Mr. Mayank R. Patel V Seagate Technology mayank_r_patel at notes.
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Mr. Erich Oetting P Storage Technology Corp. erich_oetting at stortek.com
Mr. Paul D. Aloisi P Texas Instruments Paul_Aloisi at ti.com
Mr. Donald R. Getty A# Texas Instruments donald_getty at ti.com
Mr. Mike Kosco V Texas Instruments mike at mvbuilders.com
Mr. John Wilson V Texas Instruments jwilson at asic.sc.ti.com
Mr. Kenneth J. Hallam P UNISYS Corporation ken.hallam at unisys.com
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