Draft Minutes of T10 Plenary meeting #38 - July 13, 2000
John Lohmeyer
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Wed Jul 19 15:37:24 PDT 2000
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Doc. No.: T10/00-251r0
Date: July 19, 2000
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Subject: Minutes of T10 Plenary Meeting #38 -- July 13, 2000
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Agenda
1. Opening Remarks
2. Approval of Agenda
3. Attendance and Membership
4. Approval of Minutes - May `00 Meeting - Nashua, NH (T10/00-207r1)
5. Document Distribution
6. Call for Patents
7. Review of Old Action Items
8. Project Status Reports
8.1 Project Status Summary and NCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]
8.2 SCSI Common Access Method - 3 (CAM-3) Status {Project 990-D} [Dallas]
8.3 SCSI-3 Stream Commands (SSC) Status {Project 997-D} [Peterson]
8.4 SCSI Fibre Channel Protocol - 2 (FCP-2) {Project 1144-D} [Snively]
8.5 SCSI Architecture Model - 2 (SAM-2) {Project 1157-D} [Weber]
8.6 Multimedia Command Set - 2 (MMC-2) Status {Project 1228-D} [McFerrin]
8.7 SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (SPC-2) Status {Project 1236-D} [Weber]
8.8 Reduced Block Commands (RBC) {Project 1240-D} [McLean]
8.9 SCSI Parallel Interface - 3 (SPI-3) {Project 1302-D} [Penokie]
8.10 MultiMedia Command Set - 3 (MMC-3) {Project 1363-D} [McFerrin]
8.11 Reduced MultiMedia Command Set (RMC) {Project 1364-D} [McFerrin]
8.12 SCSI Parallel Interface - 4 (SPI-4) {Project 1365-D} [Penokie]
8.13 SCSI Domain Validation Technical Report (SDV) {Project 1378-DT}
[Roberts]
8.14 SCSI on Scheduled Transfer (SST) {Project 1380-D} [Woelz]
8.15 SCSI Medium Changer Commands - 2 (SMC-2) {Project 1383-D} [Oetting]
8.16 SCSI Signal Modeling (SSM) {Project 1414-DT} [Aloisi]
8.17 SCSI VI Protocol (SVP) {Project 1415-D} [Gardner]
8.18 SCSI Primary Commands - 3 (SPC-3) {Project 1416-D} [Weber]
8.19 SCSI Block Commands - 2 (SBC-2) {Project 1417-D} [Milligan]
8.20 Object-based Storage Devices Commands (OSD) {Project 1355-D}
[Milligan]
8.21 SCSI Stream Commands - 2 (SSC-2) {Project 1434-D} [Peterson]
8.22 SCSI Passive Interconnect Performance (PIP) Technical Report (PIP)
{Project 1439-DT} [Ham]
9. Old Business
9.1 Report on T10 Procedures Study Group Meeting [Lohmeyer]
9.2 IEEE Usage of T10 Vendor ID List [Lohmeyer]
9.3 T10 Style Guide and Templates Project Report [Evans]
9.4 SES defects / letter ballot results on forwarding amendment (00-019)
[Elliott/Lohmeyer]
10. New Business
10.1 Results of letter ballot on forwarding SPC-2 to NCITS for first public
review (00-017) [Lohmeyer]
10.2 Actions on Working Group Recommendations
10.2.1 Enhancing Performance by Reducing Training Overhead (00-270r0)
[Day]
10.2.2 Tightening SPI-4 Asymmetry (from 00-246r1) [Aloisi]
10.2.3 Change table A.1 row 3 (from 00-246r1) [Aloisi]
10.2.4 REQ/ACK Offset (00-271r1) [Leshay]
10.2.5 Flow Control (00-285r1) [Leshay]
10.2.6 Make the PPR PACE_ON bit reserved [Galloway]
10.2.7 SAM-2 Byte Count That's Really Buffer Size (00-213r1) [Weber]
10.2.8 Editorial changes to Access Controls, 99-245r9 (00-261r0) [Hafner]
10.2.9 Acceptance of SBC-2 as Committee Draft (Milligan)
11. ISO/IEC
11.1 ISO/IEC Report [Milligan]
11.2 ISO/IEC Business [Milligan]
12. Liaison Reports
12.1 T11 Liaison Report [Wanamaker]
12.2 T13 Liaison Report [Milligan]
12.3 SFF Industry Group [Allan]
12.4 IEEE 1394 [Johansson]
12.5 IEEE P1285 Status
12.6 SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Jones/Aloisi]
12.7 IETF SCSI over IP [Gardner/Robinson]
13. Review of Action Items
14. Meeting Schedule
14.1 Authorization of Working Group Meetings
15. Adjournment
Results of Meeting
1. Opening Remarks
John Lohmeyer, the T10 Chair, called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m.,
Thursday July 13, 2000. He thanked LSI Logic for hosting the meeting.
John said that NCITS Subgroup Membership forms and the T10 Mailing
Subscription form were available from the head table. He said that people
should use the NCITS forms to insure the NCITS Secretariat has the latest
membership information. These forms should be mailed directly to the NCITS
Secretariat.
As is customary, the people attending introduced themselves and a copy of the
attendance list was circulated. Copies of the draft agenda and general
information on T10 were made available to those attending.
2. Approval of Agenda
The draft agenda was approved with the following additions/changes:
10.2.1 Enhancing Performance by Reducing Training Overhead (00-270) [Day]
10.2.2 Tightening SPI-4 Asymmetry (from 00-246r1) [Aloisi]
10.2.3 Change table A.1 row 3 (from 00-246r1) [Aloisi]
10.2.4 REQ/ACK Offset (00-271r1) [Leshay]
10.2.5 Flow Control (00-285r1) [Leshay]
10.2.6 Make the PPR PACE_ON bit reserved [Galloway]
10.2.7 SAM-2 Byte Count That's Really Buffer Size (00-213r1) [Weber]
10.2.8 Editorial changes to Access Controls, 99-245r9 (00-261r0) [Hafner]
10.2.9 Acceptance of SBC-2 as Committee Draft (Milligan)
The following agenda items were added/revised during the course of the
meeting:
12.7 IETF SCSI over IP [Gardner/Robinson]
3. Attendance and Membership
The membership requirements were reviewed. NCITS rules permit one vote per
organization. An individual from a new organization must attend at least one
T10 plenary meeting as an Observer. He/she may apply for voting membership at
this meeting, which becomes effective following adjournment of the meeting.
Voting privileges begin upon receipt by the NCITS Secretariat of applicable
fees for the membership year.
To maintain membership, organizations must pay the NCITS Service Fee ($300).
The ANSI International Program Fee (also $300) is billed at the same time.
John briefly discussed the mailing fees. Complete pricing information is
contained in the 2000 membership form (available at
ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/mem_form.txt).
There are also minimum attendance requirements to maintain voting membership
on T10. If a member organization fails to attend two of the last three T10
meetings, they are warned that failing to attend the next T10 meeting would
result in their membership being terminated.
The Chair said he had sent letters to 17 people from 9 organizations informing
them that their membership was in jeopardy due to non-attendance (see
00-015r0) and that their membership would be terminated if they did not attend
this meeting. The following organizations were in attendance jeopardy:
Brocade Communications
Circuit Assembly Corp.
Exabyte Corp.
General Dynamics
Honda Connectors
Iomega Corp.
KnowledgeTek, Inc.
NSTOR
QLogic Corp.
All of these organizations were present except:
Circuit Assembly Corp.
NSTOR
The organizations in attendance jeopardy were terminated due to lack of
attendance (i.e., the principal member was changed to observer status and the
first alternate member, if any, was dropped; additional alternates, if any,
were changed to observers).
The following organizations requested new (or reinstated) membership:
Genroco
The T10 membership during the meeting was 38 organizations down from 39
organizations following the last meeting. Enclosure (1) is the list of the
people present at the meeting and enclosure (2) is the current T10 membership
list.
4. Approval of Minutes - May `00 Meeting - Nashua, NH (T10/00-207r1)
The minutes were approved as written.
5. Document Distribution
Members who have any problems with their mailing subscription should deal
directly with Monica Vago (mvago at itic.org) (202) 626-5741.
John Lohmeyer requested that all documents for the next mailing be in his
hands in electronic format by 10:30 a.m. on Thursday July 20, 2000. Documents
received after this time may go into a subsequent mailing.
John reminded the committee of the requirements for document submission.
Since T10 meets its document retention requirements by preparing mailings,
documents included in the mailing must be suitable for archiving. This means
that native-format and/or Portable Document Format (PDF) electronic originals
with proper identification must be submitted.
The electronic copies can be sent directly to John by email (at
lohmeyer at t10.org), or they can be transferred by ftp protocol to ftp.t10.org
and placed in the /incoming directory. In the latter case, please also send
email to John informing him of the file name and location of the file.
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T10 on a server provided by the SCSI Trade Association at:
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The current document register is enclosure (3). The T10 document register is
also available at:
ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/dr.txt
6. Call for Patents
This is a regular agenda item to identify any potential patent issues with
developing standards and technical reports.
A document is available from ANSI, "Procedures for the Development and
Coordination of American National Standards", at no charge. This document is
also on the WWW at http://www.ncits.org/help/ansi_sdo.html. Section1.2.11
contains the ANSI patent policy. Amy Marasco manages patent issues for ANSI
and can be contacted at amarasco at ansi.org or 212-642-4954. Gene Milligan has
prepared a useful "Handy dandy Technical Committee's Patents Guide", which is
available at ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/document.99/99-291r0.pdf.
John asked that anyone who knows of applicable patents contact him. There
were no responses to the call for patents.
7. Review of Old Action Items
376) Dean Wallace will lead the SSM working group in preparation of a press
release regarding the usage of the T10 web site that John Lohmeyer can forward
to NCITS for distribution. Reassign to Paul Aloisi
377) John Lohmeyer will forward the SSM press release to NCITS. Carryover
388) Ralph Weber will prepare SPC-2 revision 18 for letter ballot vote.
Completed
389) John Lohmeyer will conduct a letter ballot vote on forwarding SPC-2
revision 18 to first public review. Completed
390) John Lohmeyer will contact NCITS regarding formalization of the
responsibilities for maintaining the vendor ID list. Completed
391) John Lohmeyer will send a letter to Ron Silletti thanking him for his
public review comment. Completed
392) John Lohmeyer will forward SPI-3 revision 14 to NCITS for processing
toward to second public review. Completed
393) John Lohmeyer will forward 00-173r1 to NCITS as a project proposal for
SSC-2 within 72 hours. Completed
394) John Lohmeyer will forward 00-238r0 to NCITS as a project proposal for
the PIP Technical Report. Completed
8. Project Status Reports
8.1 Project Status Summary and NCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]
John Lohmeyer said that the current T10 project status summary was included in
the T10 Information Packages distributed prior to the meeting and will be
included in the mailing as usual.
8.2 SCSI Common Access Method - 3 (CAM-3) Status {Project 990-D} [Dallas]
John Lohmeyer reported that NCITS has withdrawn this project at T10's request.
This item will be dropped from subsequent agendas.
8.3 SCSI-3 Stream Commands (SSC) Status {Project 997-D} [Peterson]
John Lohmeyer reported that SSC has been published as NCITS.335:2000. He
congratulated Dave Peterson, the SSC project editor for his hard work.
This item will be dropped from subsequent agendas.
8.4 SCSI Fibre Channel Protocol - 2 (FCP-2) {Project 1144-D} [Snively]
Bob Snively reported on the FCP-2 activities of the Joint T10/T11.3 Working
Group (minutes in 00-289) and the CAP working group (minutes in 00-250). He
noted that responses are ready for all 1,350 letter ballot comments.
8.5 SCSI Architecture Model - 2 (SAM-2) {Project 1157-D} [Weber]
Ralph Weber reported that the CAP working group (minutes in 00-250) made the
best progress in months toward resolving the multi-port device model issues.
Much work remains to be done, but all of the existing SAM-2 discussion of
multi-port devices will be substantially revised or replaced by the time the
effort is completed. He noted that revision 13 remains the current SAM-2
revision and stated that the earliest date for a new revision would be
following the September meeting, as not enough new proposals have been
approved to justify creating a revision.
8.6 Multimedia Command Set - 2 (MMC-2) Status {Project 1228-D} [McFerrin]
Bill McFerrin reported that Ron Roberts received the official ANSI copy of
MMC-2 (NCITS.333:2000). John Lohmeyer congratulated Ron on the completion of
MMC-2.
This item will be dropped from subsequent agendas.
8.7 SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (SPC-2) Status {Project 1236-D} [Weber]
John Lohmeyer reported that the SPC-2 letter ballot had closed. Discussion of
the SPC-2 letter ballot is covered in agenda item 10.1.
8.8 Reduced Block Commands (RBC) {Project 1240-D} [McLean]
John Lohmeyer reported that RBC has been published as NCITS.330:2000. He
congratulated Ron Roberts, the RBC project editor, and Pete McLean, the RBC
project leader, for their hard work.
This item will be dropped from subsequent agendas.
8.9 SCSI Parallel Interface - 3 (SPI-3) {Project 1302-D} [Penokie]
John Lohmeyer reported that SPI-3 is in second public review. The review
started on 30 June and will close on 14 August.
8.10 MultiMedia Command Set - 3 (MMC-3) {Project 1363-D} [McFerrin]
Bill McFerrin reported the activities of the MMC-3 working group (minutes in
00-298)
8.11 Reduced MultiMedia Command Set (RMC) {Project 1364-D} [McFerrin]
Bill McFerrin reported that RMC development is dormant at this time so that
work on MMC-3 can proceed.
8.12 SCSI Parallel Interface - 4 (SPI-4) {Project 1365-D} [Penokie]
George Penokie reported on the activities of the SPI-4 working group (minutes
in 00-249).
8.13 SCSI Domain Validation Technical Report (SDV) {Project 1378-DT}
[Roberts]
Ron Roberts reported on the activities of the SDV working group (minutes in
00-284). Ron Roberts and John Lohmeyer reported on the activities of the SDV
working group meeting on June 15 (minutes in 00-255).
8.14 SCSI on Scheduled Transfer (SST) {Project 1380-D} [Woelz]
Don Woelz reported that work continues smoothly on SST. Revision 3 of the
document was reviewed at the T11.2 working group meeting in June.
8.15 SCSI Medium Changer Commands - 2 (SMC-2) {Project 1383-D} [Oetting]
Erich Oetting reported that work on incorporating persistent reservations
changes progresses in SMC-2 revision 1. He stated that SMC-2 revision 1 will
be available for the mailing.
8.16 SCSI Signal Modeling (SSM) {Project 1414-DT} [Aloisi]
Paul Aloisi reported on the activities of the SSM working group meeting
(minutes in 00-254). Paul noted that Dean Wallace will no longer be able to
chair SSM activities and that he probably will be assuming the chair
responsibilities. Paul issued a call for a vice-chair for SSM activities.
8.17 SCSI VI Protocol (SVP) {Project 1415-D} [Gardner]
Ed Gardner reported on the SVP work and activities related to SVP in the CAP
working group (minutes in 00-250). Bill Ham sought and received clarification
of the purpose of SVP.
8.18 SCSI Primary Commands - 3 (SPC-3) {Project 1416-D} [Weber]
Ralph Weber reported that progress on SPC-3 has been delayed by at least two
months as a result of the large number of comments received on the SPC-2
letter ballot.
8.19 SCSI Block Commands - 2 (SBC-2) {Project 1417-D} [Milligan]
Gene Milligan reported on the CAP activities related to SBC-2 (minutes in
00-250).
8.20 Object-based Storage Devices Commands (OSD) {Project 1355-D} [Milligan]
Gene Milligan reported that the OSD working group will meet follow the T10
plenary meeting. John Lohmeyer noted in response to a question about the last
minutes, that the SNIA URL is http://www.snia.org/.
8.21 SCSI Stream Commands - 2 (SSC-2) {Project 1434-D} [Peterson]
Erich Oetting reported that SSC-2 is currently incorporating a large block
proposal and a SET CAPACITY command proposal. The next revision of SSC-2 will
be available for review prior to the August Joint T10/T11.3 working group
meeting.
8.22 SCSI Passive Interconnect Performance (PIP) Technical Report (PIP)
{Project 1439-DT} [Ham]
Bill Ham reported the activities PIP working group (minutes in 00-253).
9. Old Business
9.1 Report on T10 Procedures Study Group Meeting [Lohmeyer]
John Lohmeyer reported that the procedures study group recommended two
procedures documents for T10 approval and forwarding to NCITS.
John presented and reviewed the 00-221r1 (Policy for T10 Plenary Meetings and
Accompanying Meeting Weeks). Skip Jones was concerned about the $175 room
rate limit.
John Lohmeyer moved that 00-221r2 (r1 as revised) be forwarded to NCITS for
processing as a T10 procedure. Paul Aloisi seconded the motion. Skip Jones
made a friendly amendment that raised the room rate limit to $190. The motion
passed on a vote of 27:0:1:10=38.
John Lohmeyer took an action item to prepare 00-221r2 (Policy for T10 Plenary
Meetings and Accompanying Meeting Weeks) for forwarding to NCITS. John
Lohmeyer took an action item to forward 00-221r2 to NCITS for processing as a
T10 procedure document.
Gene Milligan moved that 00-283r1 (NCITS T10 Standards Development Policies
and Procedures) be forwarded to NCITS for processing as a T10 procedure,
replacing 94-198r3. Paul Aloisi seconded the motion. The motion passed on a
vote of 30:0:0:8=38.
John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward 00-283r1 (NCITS T10 Standards
Development Policies and Procedures) to NCITS for processing as a revision to
the T10 procedure document 94-198r3.
9.2 IEEE Usage of T10 Vendor ID List [Lohmeyer]
John Lohmeyer reported that NCITS is considering the proposal from the last
T10 meeting that NCITS take responsibility for the Vendor ID list and assign
maintenance of the list to T10. He stated that he has not been informed of
the results of the NCITS deliberations.
9.3 T10 Style Guide and Templates Project Report [Evans]
Gene Milligan moved that T10 adopt in principle the ISO/IEC Directives, Part
3, Rules for the structure and drafting of International Standards as the T10
style guide with the intent that T10 develop a cover style guide containing
references the ISO/IEC directives. John Lohmeyer seconded the motion. George
Penokie asked that the motion be deferred to the next meeting and, without
objection, the motion was deferred to the September 2000 meeting.
9.4 SES defects / letter ballot results on forwarding amendment (00-019)
[Elliott/Lohmeyer]
John Lohmeyer reported on results of the SES amendment letter ballot vote.
The ballot passed on a vote of 32:1:0:6=39. Details of the vote are in
00-019.
Rob Elliott reviewed the SES amendment as revised based on letter ballot
comments and reported on the comment resolution document (00-288r0).
Rob Elliott moved that 00-288r0 be accepted as the comments resolution for the
for the SES amendment letter ballot and that SES amendment revision 1 be
forward to NCITS for processing toward first public review. Gene Milligan
seconded the motion.
Gene Milligan requested that pages with the revised tables be added to the
amendment. Rob stated that he is following the T11 template for amendments,
which does not include change pages.
The motion passed on a roll call vote of 31:0:0:7=37. Details of the roll
call vote are as follows:
Organization Stat Name Yes No Abs NP
---------------------------- ---- ----------------------- --- -- --- --
Adaptec, Inc. A Mr. Ron Roberts 1
AMP / Tyco Electronics P Mr. Charles Brill 1
Amphenol Interconnect P Mr. Bill Mable 1
Berg Electronics 1
BREA Technologies, Inc. P Mr. Bill Galloway 1
Brocade Communications P Mr. Robert Snively 1
CMD Technology P Mr. Edward Haske 1
Compaq Computer Corp. P Mr. Robert C. Elliott 1
Crossroads Systems, Inc. P Mr. Neil Wanamaker 1
Dallas Semiconductor A Mr. Titkwan Hui 1
Dell Computer 1
EMC P Mr. Gary S. Robinson 1
ENDL Texas A Mr. Ralph O. Weber 1
Exabyte Corp. P Mr. Mike Taylor 1
Fujitsu 1
General Dynamics P Mr. Nathan Hastad 1
Genroco, Inc. P Mr. Donald Woelz 1
Hewlett Packard Co. P Mr. Stewart Wyatt 1
Hitachi Cable Manchester,Inc A Mr. Robert Canniff 1
Honda Connectors 1
IBM Corp. P Mr. George O. Penokie 1
Iomega Corp. P Mr. Tim Bradshaw 1
KnowledgeTek, Inc. P Mr. Dennis Moore 1
LSI Logic Corp. P Mr. John Lohmeyer 1
Madison Cable Corp. 1
Maxtor Corp. P Mr. Pete McLean 1
Molex Inc. P Mr. Jay Neer 1
Ophidian Designs P Mr. Edward A. Gardner 1
Panasonic Technologies, Inc 1
Philips Electronics P Mr. William P. McFerrin 1
QLogic Corp. P Mr. Skip Jones 1
Quantum Corp. P Mr. Mark Evans 1
Seagate Technology P Mr. Gene Milligan 1
Storage Technology Corp. P Mr. Erich Oetting 1
Sun Microsystems, Inc. P Mr. Kenneth Moe 1
Texas Instruments P Mr. Paul D. Aloisi 1
Toshiba America Elec. Comp. 1
Woven Electronics P Mr. Doug Piper 1
31 0 0 7 = 38
Gene Milligan stated that in view of the errors being corrected he wanted to
change his letter ballot vote, but that in view of the absence of corrected
pages in the amendment he requested that his vote be changed to abstain as he
is not materially affected by the SES standard.
10. New Business
10.1 Results of letter ballot on forwarding SPC-2 to NCITS for first public
review (00-017) [Lohmeyer]
John Lohmeyer reported that the letter ballot to forward SPC-2 for first
public review passed on a vote of 32:4:0:3=39. Details of the letter ballot
results can be found in 00-017r0.
Ralph Weber reported that he is only half way through preparing the first
draft of a response document for the letter ballot comments. Discussion of
the comments and responses will be on the agenda of the September CAP working
group meeting.
10.2 Actions on Working Group Recommendations
10.2.1 Enhancing Performance by Reducing Training Overhead (00-270r0) [Day]
John Lohmeyer moved that 00-270r0 be accepted for SPI-4 per the working group
recommendation. Bill Galloway seconded the motion. The motion passed on a
vote of 27:1:1:9=38.
10.2.2 Tightening SPI-4 Asymmetry (from 00-246r1) [Aloisi]
Paul Aloisi moved that, in SPI-4 Table A.2, the last line remove the TBDs and
replace with the old values, and a new line for Fast-160 be added to the table
with the following equations Min 0,85 x |Vn|+50 and Max 1,15 x |Vn|-57. Gene
Milligan seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 27:0:1:10=38.
10.2.3 Change table A.1 row 3 (from 00-246r1) [Aloisi]
Paul Aloisi moved that, in the SPI-4 table A.1 row 3 (the OR-tied signals) the
maximum be changed to -100 mV. Gene Milligan seconded the motion. Gene
stated that this was a place where TBDs were added at the last meeting when
they did not need to be added. The motion passed on a vote of 27:0:0:11=38.
10.2.4 REQ/ACK Offset (00-271r1) [Leshay]
Gene Milligan stated that the proposal has not been available for two weeks
and asked that this item not be considered at this meeting. Mark Evans
expressed concerns that disposition the proposal will not occur until the
August and/or September meetings and requested consideration of a letter
ballot. Bill Galloway suggested a different mechanism for accomplishing about
the same effect. John Lohmeyer stated that letter ballots are not a good way
to resolve technical issues and suggested that working group discussions
usually resolve issues such as this one quicker.
10.2.5 Flow Control (00-285r1) [Leshay]
Bill Galloway moved that 00-285r1 be accepted for inclusion in SPI-4. Rob
Elliott seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 28:0:0:10=38.
10.2.6 Make the PPR PACE_ON bit reserved [Galloway]
Gene Milligan stated that this item had not been on the agenda for two weeks
prior to the meeting and asked that this item not be considered at this
meeting.
10.2.7 SAM-2 Byte Count That's Really Buffer Size (00-213r1) [Weber]
Ralph Weber moved that 00-213r2 (r1 as modified) be approved for inclusion in
SAM-2. Ed Gardner seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of
24:0:0:14=38.
10.2.8 Editorial changes to Access Controls, 99-245r9 (00-261r0) [Hafner]
Ralph Weber moved that 00-261r0 be approved as an amendment to 99-245r9. Rob
Elliott seconded the motion.
Ralph noted that the effect of this motion is that the editor's of SPI-4,
FCP-2, and other standards need not make the many of the changes described in
99-245r9. The motion passed on a vote of 24:0:1:13=38.
10.2.9 Acceptance of SBC-2 as Committee Draft (Milligan)
Bob Snively moved that SBC-2 revision 0 be accepted as a committee draft.
Erich Oetting seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of
27:0:0:11=38.
11. ISO/IEC
11.1 ISO/IEC Report [Milligan]
Gene Milligan provided an oral report to the committee and supplied an
electronic report that is available in 00-291r0.
Gene provided the following report summary for inclusion in the minutes:
Other than SMC, SES, and FCP overdue editorial work, all of the current T10
ISO/IEC actions are completed.
T10 will need to vote on Confirming, Revising, or Withdrawing ISO/IEC 9316
SCSI-2 no later than the September meeting.
11.2 ISO/IEC Business [Milligan]
Gene Milligan asked that an agenda item be added in September to perform the
5-year review of SCSI-2.
12. Liaison Reports
12.1 T11 Liaison Report [Wanamaker]
Neil Wanamaker reported on the activities of T11 and provided an electronic
report that is available in 00-290r0.
12.2 T13 Liaison Report [Milligan]
Gene Milligan presented the T13 liaison report and provided the following
electronic report for inclusion in the minutes:
At the June meeting T13 resolved letter ballot comments and forwarded the
standards on EDD BIOS and the PARTIES standard. They also responded to a set
of public review comments on ATA/ATAPI-5 that did not result in a revision to
the standard. T13 unanimously voted Ultra DMA 100 into ATA/ATAPI-6 and some
updates to the signal quality annex are in work. T13 made considerable
progress on the video architecture and proposal issues. The next T13 meeting
is in Longmont, Colorado hosted by Maxtor 28 through 31 August.
12.3 SFF Industry Group [Allan]
Dal Allan provided the following electronic report:
SFF-8101 (3 Gbs/4 Gbs Copper Signals) and SFF-8060 (HSS Backplane Design
Guidelines) are new projects for high speed serial applications.
At the SSWG on Wednesday, the current high speed testing activities in SFF and
other organizations were reviewed, and SFP status was presented.
SFF-8551 CD ROM Form Factor will have editing corrections made to metric
conversions before being balloted for publication.
The ballot will include a request that members approve a change in the meeting
cycle to hold plenaries twice a year, in May and November. The SFF website
will be used as the primary means of communication for upcoming meetings and
SSWGs, balloting, access to minutes etc. The SSWG will continue to meet on
Wednesday afternoon of T10 week.
12.4 IEEE 1394 [Johansson]
The committee discussed that status of p1394a. Whether p1394a is at IEEE
ballot or at ISO was unclear.
12.5 IEEE P1285 Status
Gary Robinson reported that he had requested status of P1285 from the IEEE
staff. IEEE informed Gary that the four-year review date is December of this
year. Gary stated that he will be watching the review/renewal status of
P1285.
12.6 SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Jones/Aloisi]
Paul Aloisi reported on the activities of STA and provided an electronic
report that can be found in 00-293.
12.7 IETF SCSI over IP [Gardner/Robinson]
Ed Gardner reported on teleconference activities on SCSI over IP and provided
an electronic report that is available in 00-280r0. Ed noted that he is
inviting Randy Haagens of HP to visit a CAP working group meeting in September
or November. Dal Allan asked that the timing of the visit be oriented toward
a Wednesday morning.
Gary Robinson reported on high level SCSI over IP and provided an electronic
report that is available in 00-286r0. He noted that Dave Black (a potential
IETF SCSI over IP chair or co-chair) is willing to visit T10 during September
or November.
13. Review of Action Items
376) Paul Aloisi will lead the SSM working group in preparation of a press
release regarding the usage of the T10 web site that John Lohmeyer can forward
to NCITS for distribution.
377) John Lohmeyer will forward the SSM press release to NCITS.
395) John Lohmeyer will prepare 00-221r2 (Policy for T10 Plenary Meetings and
Accompanying Meeting Weeks) for forwarding to NCITS. Completed
396) John Lohmeyer will forward 00-221r2 to NCITS for processing as a T10
procedures document.
397) John Lohmeyer will forward 00-283r1 (NCITS T10 Standards Development
Policies and Procedures) to NCITS for processing as a revision to a previously
approved (94-198r3) T10 procedures document.
398) John Lohmeyer will forward SES Amendment #1 Rev 1 to NCITS for further
processing to correct the SES defects identified in 00-233r1.
14. Meeting Schedule
The next plenary meeting of T10 will be September 14, 2000 in Huntington
Beach, CA at the Hilton Waterfront Hotel (714-960-7873), hosted by QLogic.
The meeting will begin at 9:00 a.m. on Thursday.
The meeting list for the next plenary week is:
September '00 Meeting Map
(7/13/00 Version)
Monday 9/11 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
+===================================+
| SCSI CAP WG (FCP-2 LB resolution) | (30)
+===================================+
| SDV WG | (30)
+===================================+
| DVD Meeting | (15)
+-----------------------------------+
Tuesday 9/12 8 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
+===========================================+
| Parallel SCSI WG | (50)
+===================================+=======+
| MMC WG | (20)
+---+===================================+---+
|T11 ad hocs | (40)
+-------------------------------------------+
Wednesday 9/13 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
+=======================================+
| SCSI Commands, Arch., & Protocol WG | (50)
+===============================+=======+
| MMC WG | (20)
+===================+===========+-------+
| SFF WG | (40)
+-------------------+
Thursday 9/14 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+=================+---------------------+
| T10 Plenary / OSD/SPC-2 (*) | (50)
+=================+=====================+
/ STA Tech. (**) | (20)
+-----+=========+===========+
| STA Marcom | (15)
+---------------+
(*) - Meeting begins 1 hour after T10 meeting
(**) - Meeting begins 30 minutes after T10 meeting, but not before 1:30 pm
Friday 9/15 8 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5
+-----------------------------+
Fremont | SCSI Trade Association (STA)| (30)
+-----------------------------+
Meetings marked with == are T10-authorized meetings.
Meetings marked with -- are authorized by other groups and may change
without notice.
Other T10-authorized meetings:
Meeting Date Location / Contact
-------------- ------------------ --------------------------------------
SST WG 08/09/00 Wed 9:00a Seattle, WA / T11
Joint T11.3/T10 08/__/00 ___ _:00 Seattle, WA / T11
PIP WG 8/14-15/00 Colo Spgs, CO / Barnes
SSM WG 8/15-16/00 Colo Spgs, CO / Barnes
SDV WG 8/17/00 Thur 9:00a Colo Spgs, CO / Barnes
SCSI Par. WG 8/24/00 Thur 1-7p Denver, CO / Lohmeyer
8/25/00 Fri 9a-1p Denver, CO / Lohmeyer
SST WG 10/4/00 Wed 9:00a Manchester, NH / T11
PIP WG 10/11-12/00 Santa Cruz / Seagate
SSM WG 10/12-13/00 Santa Cruz / Seagate
Meeting Map Abbreviation Key:
Amnd: Amendment
Cable Perf.: Cable Performance Testing
CAM: Common Access Method
CAP: Commands, Architecture, and Protocols
DVD: Digital Versatile Device (not an NCITS activity)
EPI: SCSI Enhanced Parallel Interface (Technical Report)
Fast-20: Data Transfer at 20 Mega-transfers/second (a.k.a., Ultra)
Fast-40: Data Transfer at 40 Mega-transfers/second (a.k.a., Ultra2)
Fast-80: Data Transfer at 80 Mega-transfers/second (a.k.a., Ultra3,
Ultra160)
Fast-160: Data Transfer at 160 Mega-transfers/second (a.k.a., Ultra4,
Ultra320)
FC: Fibre Channel
FC-AL: Fibre Channel - Arbitrated Loop (a T11 project)
I/F: Interface
LB: Letter Ballot
MMC: Multimedia Commands (CD-ROM, DVD, etc.)
OSD: Object-based Storage Device
Par.: Parallel (e.g., SPI-n, Domain Validation)
PH: Physical (Connectors, Cables, Transceivers, etc.)
PIP: (SCSI) Passive Interconnect Performance
Plenary: Full Committee Meeting
SBC-2: SCSI Block Commands - 2
SCSI: Small Computer System Interface
SCSI Harbor: A STA project on defining a wrapper for SCSI devices
SDV: SCSI Domain Validation (Technical Report)
SES: SCSI Enclosure Services
SFF: SFF Industry Group (not an NCITS activity)
SG: Study Group
SMC-2: SCSI Medium Changer - 2 Commands
SPC-2: SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (2nd generation)
SPI-4: Fourth Generation SCSI Parallel Interface
SSC-2: SCSI Stream Commands - 2 (includes Tape)
SSM: SCSI Signal Modeling
SST: SCSI over Scheduled Transfer (ST)
SSWGs: Specific-Subject Working Groups
STA: SCSI Trade Association (not an NCITS activity)
STA Marcom: STA Marketing Communications (not an NCITS activity)
STA Tech: STA Technical Meeting (T10 members invited)
T10: Lower Level Interfaces Technical Committee
T10 Proc.: T10 Procedures
T11: Device Level Interfaces Technical Committee
WG: Working Group (same as Ad Hoc Group)
For more information about T10 activities, please contact the following
people:
Activity Contact Telephone/Email
---------------------------- --------------- ------------------------------
EPI Bill Ham (508) 841-2629
bill.ham at digital.com
FCP-2, SES Robert Snively (408) 487-8135
rsnively at brocade.com
SBC, SBC-2 Gene Milligan (405) 324-3070
gene_milligan at notes.seagate.com
MMC-2, MMC-3, RMC Bill McFerrin (303) 651-5400
BMcFerrin at aol.com
SBP-2 or RBC Pete McLean (303) 678-2149
pete_mclean at maxtor.com
SBP-2 Peter Johansson (510) 527-3926
PJohansson at ACM.org
SCC-2, SPI-3, SPI-4 George Penokie (507) 253-5208
gop at us.ibm.com
SDV Larry Lamers (408) 957-7817
ljlamers at ieee.org
SMC, SMC-2 Erich Oetting (303) 673-2178
Erich_Oetting at Stortek.com
SPC-2, SPC-3, SAM-2 Ralph Weber (214) 912-1373
roweber at acm.org
SSC, SSC-2 Dave Peterson (612) 391-1008
dap at network.com
SSM Dean Wallace (714) 668-5028
d_wallace at qlc.com
SVP Ed Gardner (719) 593-8866
eag at ophidian.com
Other Activities John Lohmeyer (719) 533-7560
lohmeyer at t10.org
The long-term T10 meeting week schedule is:
Date Location Host/Comments
------------------ ------------------------- -----------------------------
Sep 11-15, 2000 Huntington Beach, CA QLogic
Oct 30-Nov 3, 2000 Monterey, CA Adaptec / dates changed
Jan 15-19, 2001 Orlando, FL Adaptec (DPT Div.)
Mar 5-9, 2001 Dallas, TX Texas Instruments
May 7-11, 2001 Manchester, NH Hitachi Cable / see note
Jul 16-20, 2001 Colorado Springs, CO LSI Logic
Sep 10-14, 2001 Huntington Beach, CA QLogic
Nov 5-9, 2001 Monterey, CA Adaptec
Jan 14-18, 2002
Mar 11-15, 2002
May 6-10, 2002
Jul 15-19, 2002
Sep 9-13, 2002
Nov 4-8, 2002
John Lohmeyer moved that the 2002 dates be accepted. Skip Jones seconded the
motion. The motion passed on a vote of 16:3:0:19=38.
NOTE: It has been proposed that the May 2001 meeting week be advanced to April
30 - May 4. This proposed change will be addressed at the September 14, 2000
meeting.
14.1 Authorization of Working Group Meetings
John noted that the working group meetings are required to operate under the
same voting procedures as does T10 (that is, one vote per organization) and
the results of a working group are not binding on the parent committee. Ad
hoc groups should strive to achieve consensus prior to bringing issues to T10.
Erich Oetting moved that T10 authorize the T10-related meetings and events in
the list above that had not previously been approved. Paul Aloisi seconded
the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 23:0:0:15=38.
15. Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 12:30 p.m. on Thursday July 13, 2000.
Enclosure(1) -- Meeting Attendees
Name S Organization Electronic Mail Address
---------------------- -- ------------------------- -------------------------
Mr. Ron Roberts A Adaptec, Inc. Ron_Roberts at adaptec.com
Mr. Charles Brill P AMP / Tyco Electronics cebrill at ix.netcom.com
Mr. Bill Mable P Amphenol Interconnect mableaipc at aol.com
Mr. Bart Raudebaugh O Ancot Corp. bart at ancot.com
Mr. Bill Galloway P BREA Technologies, Inc. billg at breatech.com
Mr. Robert Snively P Brocade Communications rsnively at brocade.com
Mr. Edward Haske P CMD Technology haske at cmd.com
Mr. Robert C. Elliott P Compaq Computer Corp. Rob_Elliott at compuserve.
com
Dr. William Ham A Compaq Computer Corp. bill_ham at ix.netcom.com
Mr. David Rotman V Compaq Computer Corp. david.rotman at compaq.com
Mr. Neil Wanamaker P Crossroads Systems, Inc. ntw at crossroads.com
Mr. John Tyndall A Crossroads Systems, Inc. jtyndall at crossroads.com
Mr. Titkwan Hui A. Dallas Semiconductor tk.hui at dalsemi.com
Mr. Keith W. Parker V Diogenes SCSI diogenes at europa.com
Mr. Gary S. Robinson P EMC robinson_gary at emc.com
Mr. I. Dal Allan P ENDL endlcom at acm.org
Mr. Ralph O. Weber A ENDL Texas roweber at acm.org
Mr. Mike Taylor P Exabyte Corp. miketa at exabyte.com
Mr. Nathan Hastad P General Dynamics nathan.j.hastad at gd-is.com
Mr. Donald Woelz P Genroco, Inc. don at genroco.com
Mr. Stewart Wyatt R Hewlett Packard Co. stewart_wyatt at hp.com
Mr. Robert Canniff A Hitachi Cable Manchester, rcanniff at hcm.hitachi.com
Inc
Mr. Thomas J. Kulesza P Honda Connectors tkulesza at hondaconnectors.
com
Mr. George O. Penokie P IBM Corp. gop at us.ibm.com
Dr. Jim Hafner V IBM Corp. hafner at almaden.ibm.com
Mr. Tim Bradshaw P Iomega Corp. bradshat at iomega.com
Mr. Dennis Moore P KnowledgeTek, Inc. dmoore at ix.netcom.com
Mr. John Lohmeyer P LSI Logic Corp. lohmeyer at t10.org
Ms. Jie Fan P Madison Cable Corp. jfan at madisoncable.com
Mr. Pete McLean P Maxtor Corp. pete_mclean at maxtor.com
Mr. Jay Neer P Molex Inc. jneer at molex.com
Mr. Glen Griessler O Molex Inc. ggriessler at molex.com
Mr. Edward A. Gardner P Ophidian Designs eag at ophidian.com
Mr. William P. P Philips Electronics BMcFerrin at aol.com
McFerrin
Mr. Keiji Katata V Pioneer Electronic Corp. keiji_Katata at post.
pioneer.co.jp
Mr. Takeshi Kohda V Pioneer Electronics Corp. takeshi_kohda at post.
pioneer.co.jp
Mr. Skip Jones P QLogic Corp. sk_jones at qlc.com
Mr. Mark Evans P Quantum Corp. mark.evans at quantum.com
Mr. Gene Milligan P Seagate Technology Gene_Milligan at notes.
seagate.com
Mr. Gerald Houlder A Seagate Technology gerry_houlder at notes.
seagate.com
Mr. Erich Oetting P Storage Technology Corp. erich_oetting at stortek.com
Mr. Kenneth Moe P Sun Microsystems, Inc. kenneth.moe at sun.com
Mr. Paul D. Aloisi P Texas Instruments Paul_Aloisi at ti.com
Mr. Donald R. Getty A# Texas Instruments donald_getty at ti.com
Mr. Jerry Rossman P The JPM Co. jrossman at jpmco.com
Mr. Doug Piper P Woven Electronics doug.piper@
wovenelectronics.com
46 People Present
Status Key: P - Principal
A,A# - Alternate
O - Observer
L - Liaison
V - Visitor
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