Draft Minutes of T10 Plenary Meeting #31 - May 6, 1999

John Lohmeyer lohmeyer at ix.netcom.com
Wed May 12 14:42:59 PDT 1999


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                                                    Doc. No.: T10/99-177r0
                                                        Date: May 12, 1999
                                                    Reply to: John Lohmeyer

To:       T10 Membership
From:     Ralph Weber / John Lohmeyer
Subject:  Minutes of T10 Plenary Meeting #31 -- May 6, 1999
          Manchester, NH

Agenda

1.     Opening Remarks
2.     Approval of Agenda
3.     Attendance and Membership
4.     Approval of Minutes - March `99 Meeting Harrisburg, PA (T10/99-137r1)
5.     Document Distribution
6.     Call for Patents
7.     Review of Old Action Items
8.     Project Status Reports
8.1      Project Status Summary and NCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]
8.2      SCSI Common Access Method - 3 (CAM-3) Status {Project 990-D} [Dallas]
8.3      SCSI-3 Stream Commands (SSC) Status {Project 997-D} [Peterson]
8.4      SCSI Enhanced Parallel Interface (EPI) Technical Report {Project
1143-D} [Ham]
8.5      SCSI Fibre Channel Protocol - 2 (FCP-2) {Project 1144-D} [Snively]
8.6      Serial Bus Protocol - 2 (SBP-2) {Project 1155-D} [Johansson]
8.7      SCSI Architecture Model - 2 (SAM-2) {Project 1157-D} [Weber]
8.8      Multimedia Command Set - 2 (MMC-2) Status {Project 1228-D} [Roberts]
8.9      SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (SPC-2) Status {Project 1236-D} [Weber]
8.10     Reduced Block Commands (RBC) {Project 1240-D} [McLean]
8.11     SCSI Socket/SSL Services Command Set (SSS)  {Project 1246-D} [Parker]
8.12     SCSI Parallel Interface - 3 (SPI-3) {Project 1302-D} [Penokie]
8.13     SCSI Enclosure Profile (SEP) Technical Report {Project 1303-DT}
[Weber]
9.     Old Business
9.1      Extended Copy command in SPC-2 (99-143r1) [Snively]
9.2      Making TTD and CIOP Obsolete (99-147r0) [Snively]
10.    New Business
10.1     Recommendation that NCITS withdraw X3.276:1997 SCSI-3 Controller
Commands
10.2     Recommendation that NCITS withdraw X3.253:1995 SCSI-3 Parallel
Interface & its Amendment
10.3     Recommendation that NCITS withdraw X3.292:1997 SCSI-3 Interlocked
Protocol
10.4     Recommendation that NCITS withdraw X3.277:1996 Fast-20
10.5     Recommendation that NCITS close the Project 0990-D, Common Access
Method - 3 (CAM-3)
10.6     Recommendation that NCITS close the Project 1246-D, SCSI Socket/SSL
Services Command Set (SSS)
10.7     Actions on Working Group Recommendations
10.7.1     Cable Testing Requirements (99-111) [Daggett]
10.7.2     Packet Protocol Extensions (99-139r4) [Lamers/Penokie/Milligan]
10.7.3     Proposed Physical Layer Integrity Check Annex (98-235r4) [Lohmeyer]
10.7.4     Protection for the Asynchronous Information Phases (99-119r3)
[Evans & Leshay]
10.7.5     Fairness Feature Control in SPI-3 (99-160r1) [Elliott/Houlder]
10.7.6     Proposed Modifications to Annex A (99-174r0) [Aloisi/et.al.]
10.7.7     Slow DT Timing Revision Proposal for SPI-3 (99-183r1) [Milligan]
10.7.8     Groundwork for Expander Communication (99-169r1) [Lamers/Bastiani]
10.7.9     Packetized cleanup and improvements (99-170r1) [Galloway]
10.7.10      Restrict QAS to Packetized (99-173r0) [Galloway]
10.7.11      SPI-3 Technical Changes (99-184r1) [Penokie]
10.7.12      Project Proposal for SPI-4 (Ultra320 SCSI) (99-140r3) [Lamers]
10.7.13      Fairness Feature Control in SPC-2 and FCP-2 (99-160r2)
[Elliott/Houlder]
10.7.14      Suggested changes to REPORT LUNS command for SPC-2 and SAM-2
(99-144r1) [Snively]
10.7.15      Still more on Persistent Reservations parts II and III in SPC-2
(99-182r1) [Coughlan]
10.7.16      Make SEND command optional in processor command set in SPC-2
[Lamers]
10.8     Clarification of T10 Standards Development Policy and Procedures
(94-198r3) [Milligan]
10.9     Project Proposals for RMC and MMC-3 (99-154r1 and 99-153r1) [Roberts]
10.10    Addition of Version Descriptors in SPC-2 [Snively]
11.    ISO
11.1     ISO Report [Milligan]
11.2     ISO Business [Milligan]
12.    Liaison Reports
12.1     T11 Liaison Report [Cummings]
12.2     T13 Liaison Report [Milligan]
12.3     SFF Industry Group [Allan]
12.4     IEEE 1394 [Johansson]
12.5     IEEE P1285 Status
12.6     IEEE P1596.8 Status
12.7     SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Jones/Aloisi]
13.    Review of Action Items
14.    Meeting Schedule
14.1       Authorization of Working Group Meetings
14.2     Increasing T10's Maximum Hotel Room Rate
15.    Adjournment

Results of Meeting

1.     Opening Remarks

John Lohmeyer, the T10 Chair, called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m.,
Thursday May 6, 1999.  He thanked Zane Daggett of Hitachi Cable Manchester for
hosting the meeting.

John said that NCITS Subgroup Membership forms and the T10 Mailing
Subscription form were available on the document table.  He said that people
should use the NCITS forms to insure the NCITS Secretariat has the latest
membership information.  These forms should be mailed directly to the NCITS
Secretariat.

As is customary, the people attending introduced themselves and a copy of the
attendance list was circulated.  Copies of the draft agenda and general
information on T10 were made available to those attending.

2.     Approval of Agenda

The draft agenda was approved with the following additions/changes:

10.7.5     Fairness Feature Control in SPI-3 (99-160r1) [Elliott/Houlder]
10.7.6     Making TTD and CIOP obsolete (99-147r0) [Snively/Lamers]
10.7.7     Proposed Modifications to Annex A (99-174r0) [Aloisi/et.al.]
10.7.8     Slow DT Timing Revision Proposal for SPI-3 (99-183r1) [Milligan]
10.7.9     Groundwork for Expander Communication (99-169r1) [Lamers/Bastiani]
10.7.10      Packetized cleanup and improvements (99-170r1) [Galloway]
10.7.11      Restrict QAS to Packetized (99-173r0) [Galloway]
10.7.12      Packetized Extensions (99-139r4) [Lamers/Penokie/Milligan]
10.7.13      SPI-3 Technical Changes (99-184r0) [Penokie]
10.7.14      Project Proposal for SPI-4 (Ultra320 SCSI) (99-140r3) [Lamers]
10.7.15      Fairness Feature Control in SPC-2 and FCP-2 (99-160r2)
[Elliott/Houlder]
10.7.16      Suggested changes to REPORT LUNS command for SPC-2 and SAM-2
(99-144r1) [Snively]
10.7.17      Still more on Persistent Reservations parts II and III (99-182r1)
[Coughlan]
10.7.18      Make SEND command optional in processor command set in SPC-2
[Lamers]

The following agenda items were added/revised during the course of the
meeting:

8.1      Project Status Summary and NCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer] {OMC removed}
10.9     Project Proposals for RMC and MMC-3 (99-154r1 and 99-153r1) [Roberts]

3.     Attendance and Membership

The membership requirements were reviewed.  NCITS rules permit one vote per
organization.  An individual from a new organization must attend two out of
three consecutive plenary meetings.  He/she may apply for voting membership
the second meeting via a letter to the Chair of T10.  The individual may apply
for membership and begin voting at anytime following adjournment of the first
meeting.  Typically, the individual applies for membership and start casting
votes at the second plenary meeting.  Working group and other ad hoc meetings
do not count toward attendance requirements.

A recent change in the NCITS rules permits a person attending their first
meeting to become a voting member immediately following that meeting, provided
their NCITS fees have been paid.  This change permits a new member to vote on
letter ballots issued between his/her first and second meetings.

To maintain membership, organizations must pay the NCITS Service Fee ($300).
The ANSI International Program Fee (also $300) is billed at the same time.

John briefly discussed the mailing fees.  Complete pricing information is
contained in the 1999 membership form (available at
ftp://ftp.symbios.com/t10/pub/standards/io/t10/mem_form.txt).

There are also minimum attendance requirements to maintain voting membership
on T10.  If a member organization fails to attend two of the last three T10
meetings, they are warned that failing to attend the next T10 meeting would
result in their membership being terminated.  The Chair said he had sent
letters to 10 people from 5 organizations informing them that their membership
was in jeopardy due to non-attendance (see 98-026r0) and that their membership
would be terminated if they did not attend this meeting. The following
organizations were in attendance jeopardy:

Distributed Processing Tech.
KnowledgeTek, Inc.
Montrose/CDT
Sony Electronics, Inc.
Western Digital Corporation

All of the organizations were present except:

Montrose/CDT
Sony Electronics, Inc.

They were terminated due to lack of attendance (i.e., the principal member was
changed to observer status and the first alternate member, if any, was
dropped; additional alternates, if any, were changed to observers).

The following organization requested new (or reinstated) membership at this
meeting:

Crossroads Systems, Inc.
Dallas Semiconductor

The T10 membership during the meeting was 47 organizations unchanged from 47
organizations following the last meeting.  Enclosure (1) is the list of the
people present at the meeting and enclosure (2) is the current T10 membership
list.

4.     Approval of Minutes - March `99 Meeting Harrisburg, PA (T10/99-137r1)

The minutes were approved as written.

5.     Document Distribution

Members who have any problems with their mailing subscription should deal
directly with Judy Gales (jgales at itic.org) (202) 626-5741.

John Lohmeyer requested that all documents for the next mailing be in his
hands in electronic format by 10:30 a.m. on Thursday May 13, 1999.  Documents
received after this time will go into a subsequent mailing.

John reminded the committee of the requirements for document submission.
Since T10 meets its document retention requirements by preparing mailings,
documents included in the mailing must be suitable for archiving.  This means
that native-format and/or Portable Document Format (PDF) electronic originals
with proper identification must be submitted.

The electronic copies can be sent directly to John by e-mail (at
lohmeyer at ix.netcom.com), or they can be transferred by ftp protocol to
ftp.symbios.com and placed in the /pub/standards/io/incoming directory. In the
latter case, please also send e-mail to John informing him of the file name
and location of the file.

Minutes are available on the T10 World Wide Web page (see below), and are
distributed to the T10 Reflector.

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The current document register is enclosure (3).  The T10 document register is
also available at ftp://ftp.symbios.com/pub/standards/io/t10/dr.txt.

NOTE: The symbios.com addresses will be changing to t10.org addresses soon.

6.     Call for Patents

This is a regular agenda item to identify any potential patent issues with
developing standards.

In the previous minutes, it was noted that 99-138 had been received from
Adaptec.  It should have been noted that 99-138 pertains to project 1302-D,
SPI-3.

A document is available from ANSI, "Procedures for the Development and
Coordination of American National Standards", at no charge.  This document is
also on the WWW at http://www.ncits.org/help/ansi_sdo.html.  Section 1.2.11
contains the ANSI patent policy.  Amy Marasco manages patent issues for ANSI
and can be contacted at amarasco at ansi.org or 212-642-4954.

No patents were disclosed at this meeting.

7.     Review of Old Action Items

266)   All project editors will return the project abstract forms regarding
their project(s) to the Chair.  Overtaken by events -- abstracts are now
required as part of the first public review package.
294)   John Lohmeyer will add an item to the May Plenary agenda to withdraw
the CAM-3 project and to notify the project editor of this pending action.
Complete.
295)   John Lohmeyer will add an item to the May Plenary agenda to withdraw
the SSS project and to notify the project editor of this pending action.
Complete.
296)   John Lohmeyer will notify NCITS of the T10 recommendation to close
project 1303-DT (SEP).  Complete.
297)   Mike Bryan will prepare RBC revision 8 for forwarding to NCITS.
Complete.
298)   John Lohmeyer will forward RBC revision 8 to NCITS for further
processing towards first public review.  Complete.
299)   John Lohmeyer will notify NCITS that T10 recommends the reaffirmation
of X3.131:1994, Small Computer System Interface - 2 (SCSI-2).  Complete.
300)   John Lohmeyer will notify NCITS that T10 recommends the withdrawal of
ANSI/ISO 9315:1989 [1994] Interfaces between flexible disk cartridges and
their host controllers.  Complete.
301)   John Lohmeyer will notify the T10 Reflector that the committee intends
to recommend the withdrawal the following standards at its May meeting:
X3.276:1997 SCSI-3 Controller Commands,  X3.253:1995 SCSI-3 Parallel
Interface, X3.292:1997 SCSI-3 Interlocked Protocol, X3.253/AM1:1998 SPI
Amendment, and X3.277:1996 Fast-20.  Complete.
302)   Gene Milligan will take the necessary steps to withdraw SPI and Fast-20
as international projects.  Complete.
303)   Gene Milligan will take the necessary steps to process MMC using the
international fast track process.  Complete.
304)   Gene Milligan will take the necessary steps to process SBC using the
international fast track process.  Complete.
305)   Gene Milligan will use 99-128r1 as the basis for an affirmative
response to the ballot on CD 14776-381.  Complete.

8.     Project Status Reports

8.1    Project Status Summary and NCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]

John Lohmeyer said that the current T10 project status summary was included in
the T10 Information Packages distributed prior to the meeting and will be
included in the mailing as usual.

8.2    SCSI Common Access Method - 3 (CAM-3) Status {Project 990-D} [Dallas]

Bill Dallas reported that the next revision of CAM-3 should be ready by the
July meeting.  Larry Lamers questioned how the group will handle conducting a
review of CAM-3 and Bill suggested that a review meeting in New Hampshire
would be the effective.  The group discussed the relationship of CAM-3 to
Linux and other UNIX products.  Several of those present cited examples of CAM
implementations to counter the impression of some members that CAM is not used
much in the industry.

Bill proposed that November be the target date for forwarding CAM-3 to NCITS.

Based on a request from Larry Lamers, the committee authorized a CAM-3 Working
Group meeting on 29 and 30 June in Nashua, NH with the exact location to be
determined by Bill and Larry.

8.3    SCSI-3 Stream Commands (SSC) Status {Project 997-D} [Peterson]

Erich Oetting reported that Dave Peterson will prepare SSC revision 17 for a
T10 letter ballot.  Erich also reported on the activities of the FC Tape group
(minutes in 99-193).

Dave Peterson took an action item to prepare SSC revision 17 for letter
ballot.  John Lohmeyer took an action item to conduct a letter ballot on SSC
revision 17 for forwarding to first public review.  Ralph Weber took an action
item to assign an SPC-2 version descriptor code to SSC revision 17.

8.4    SCSI Enhanced Parallel Interface (EPI) Technical Report {Project
1143-D} [Ham]

John Lohmeyer reported that EPI has been published as NCITS TR-23:1999.  He
congratulated Bill Ham.  This item will be removed from future agendas.

8.5    SCSI Fibre Channel Protocol - 2 (FCP-2) {Project 1144-D} [Snively]

Bob Snively reported on the activities of the FCP-2 review meeting (minutes in
99-193).  Bob described the change list for the next revision of FCP-2, which
can be found in 99-168r3.  Bob noted that the next revision of FCP-2 would not
be available in time for the next committee mailing.

8.6    Serial Bus Protocol - 2 (SBP-2) {Project 1155-D} [Johansson]

John Lohmeyer reported that SBP-2 has been published as ANSI NCITS.325:1998.
John congratulated Peter Johansson.  This item will be removed from future
agendas.

8.7    SCSI Architecture Model - 2 (SAM-2) {Project 1157-D} [Weber]

Ralph Weber reported that revision 10 of SAM-2 was prepared for the previous
committee mailing.  Revision 10 contained changes approved at plenary meetings
since September.  Ralph noted that the work on multi-port devices is still
pending in SAM-2, edged out by EXTENDED COPY work during the past two months.
There is one change to SAM-2 up for consideration at this meeting; Ralph was
indecisive regarding whether he would prepare a new revision of SAM-2 to
contain only that one change.

8.8    Multimedia Command Set - 2 (MMC-2) Status {Project 1228-D} [Roberts]

Ron Roberts reported that 98-230 contains the comments resolution for MMC-2.
He noted that the final comments resolution document will not be available
until after this meeting.

Ron asked John Lohmeyer to add a specific item to the July agenda to approve
MMC-2 comments resolution and to forward MMC-2 to first public review.

8.9    SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (SPC-2) Status {Project 1236-D} [Weber]

Ralph Weber reported that SPC-2 revision 9 was prepared for the previous
committee mailing.  Revision 9 contains all plenary approved changes to date.
He stated that SPC-2 revision 10 will be prepared for the next committee
mailing and will contain all changes approved by this meeting.

8.10   Reduced Block Commands (RBC) {Project 1240-D} [McLean]

John Lohmeyer reported that RBC is at first public review, which closes June
6, 1999.  Ron Roberts is the new project editor.

8.11   SCSI Socket/SSL Services Command Set (SSS)  {Project 1246-D} [Parker]

In the absence of Keith Parker, no report was available for this meeting.
John Lohmeyer confirmed that he had sent e-mail to Keith regarding the status
of SSS and received neither a reply nor a bounce report.

8.12   SCSI Parallel Interface - 3 (SPI-3) {Project 1302-D} [Penokie]

George Penokie reported on the activities of the SPI-3 working group, minutes
in 99-175.  George stated his intention to have SPI-3 revision 6 ready for the
next committee mailing.

George Penokie moved that the technical content of SPI-3 revision 6 be
stabilized.  Larry Lamers seconded the motion.  Zane Daggett raised concerns
about stabilizing the cable testing content.  Dal Allan stated that
stabilization would be more appropriate at the next meeting.  Mark Evans asked
if his proposal (99-119) would be subject to post stabilization voting rules.
George stated that the answer would be yes, but that getting the necessary
two-thirds vote should not be a big hurdle.

In response to George, Mark Evans stated that SPI-3 revision 6 is not
available for inspection at the time of the meeting (and clearly has not been
available for two weeks).  Mark then invoked the 'two weeks rule'.  Larry
Lamers objected to invocation of the `two weeks rule', stating that the action
in the motion was procedural and not subject to the 'two weeks rule'.

The Chair ruled that the motion would stabilize a specific document that has
not been available for two weeks and therefore the 'two weeks rule' does
indeed apply.

In accordance with the `two weeks rule', consideration of the motion to
stabilize was terminated.  Larry Lamers protested the Chair's decision based
on the principle that the motion was procedural.

8.13   SCSI Enclosure Profile (SEP) Technical Report {Project 1303-DT} [Weber]

T10 has recommend that NCITS close this project.  John Lohmeyer did not have
confirmation of NCITS actions to close the SEP project at this meeting, but
promised to have information for the next meeting.

9.     Old Business

9.1    Extended Copy command in SPC-2 (99-143r1) [Snively]

Ralph Weber reported that the working group has decided to substitute 99-163
for 99-143 as the definition of EXTENDED COPY.  This proposal is slated for
eventual inclusion in SPC-2.  99-163 is still under development and Ralph
stated that approval of an EXTENDED COPY draft would be premature at this
time.

Bob Snively raised concerns that incorporation of this document might fail to
make SPC-2.  Ralph assured him that any action to stabilize or forward SPC-2
would be worded in such a way that EXTENDED COPY would be present in the
document.

9.2    Making TTD and CIOP Obsolete (99-147r0) [Snively]

Bob Snively moved that 99-147r0 be approved for inclusion in SPI-3.  Charley
Riegger seconded the motion.  The motion passed 23:1:0:23=47.

At the request of Dal Allan, Bob Snively agreed to take an action item to
correspond with the one person who had responded to the reflector message in
favor of retaining TTD and CIOP to solicit corrections for the known problems.

10.    New Business

10.1   Recommendation that NCITS withdraw X3.276:1997 SCSI-3 Controller
Commands

At the request of George Penokie, the committee agreed to defer consideration
of this topic to the July meeting.

10.2   Recommendation that NCITS withdraw X3.253:1995 SCSI-3 Parallel
Interface & its Amendment

At the request of George Penokie, the committee agreed to defer consideration
of this topic to the July meeting.

10.3   Recommendation that NCITS withdraw X3.292:1997 SCSI-3 Interlocked
Protocol

At the request of George Penokie, the committee agreed to defer consideration
of this topic to the July meeting.

10.4   Recommendation that NCITS withdraw X3.277:1996 Fast-20

At the request of George Penokie, the committee agreed to defer consideration
of this topic to the July meeting.

10.5   Recommendation that NCITS close the Project 0990-D, Common Access
Method - 3 (CAM-3)

In light of the report provided by Bill Dallas (see 8.2), no motion was made
to close the CAM-3 project.  This item will be dropped from future agendas.

10.6   Recommendation that NCITS close the Project 1246-D, SCSI Socket/SSL
Services Command Set (SSS)

John Lohmeyer reported that he notified Keith Parker of the T10 intention to
close the SSS project and had received no response.

Dal Allan moved that T10 recommend to NCITS that project 1246-D (SSS) be
closed.  Bill Galloway seconded the motion.  The motion passed 31:0:0:16=47

John Lohmeyer took an action item to notify NCITS that T10 recommends that
project 1246-D (SSS) be closed.

10.7   Actions on Working Group Recommendations

10.7.1 Cable Testing Requirements (99-111) [Daggett]

John Lohmeyer pointed out that the January SPI-3 working group had passed a
motion `...that the technical content of this proposal be adopted for cable
media and be incorporated into SPI-3'.  The referenced proposal was 99-111r0.
John further noted that the January motion had carried 20:0:1.

George Penokie reported that Madison Cable has requested an opportunity to
present data showing that some requirements changed by the 99-111r0 proposal
should not be changed.  Representatives of Madison Cable agreed to present the
new data at a cable testing meeting scheduled for next week.

In absence of any objections, the committee deferred action on this proposal
to the July meeting.

10.7.2 Packet Protocol Extensions (99-139r4) [Lamers/Penokie/Milligan]

Based on the unanimous recommendations of two working groups, George Penokie
moved that 99-139r4 be approved for inclusion in SPI-3.  Bill Galloway
seconded the motion.  In the absence of any objections, the motion passed
unanimously.

10.7.3 Proposed Physical Layer Integrity Check Annex (98-235r4) [Lohmeyer]

John Lohmeyer reviewed the history of the proposal to add an informative Annex
in SPI-3 describing physical layer integrity checking.  He noted that the
April SPI-3 working group recommended approval on a vote of 7:3:3.  John
Lohmeyer moved that 98-235r4 be approved for inclusion in SPI-3.  Bill
Galloway seconded the motion.

George Penokie moved to amend the motion to approve inclusion of all of
98-235r4 except all statements regarding margining.  Jeff Williams seconded
the motion to amend.  George noted that margining is not thoroughly defined.
John Lohmeyer pointed out that the working group, in effect, rejected a
similar motion.  He stated that companies are implementing margin checking and
that removing the definition will not stop this work.  Larry Lamers stated
that no one has come to the meetings and shown that margining has value.  He
further noted that putting margining in an annex sets a level of expectation
that cannot be met.  Jeff Williams expressed similar concerns about including
margining at this time.

The motion to amend passed 16:6:6.

George Penokie moved that the motion be amended to change the document where
the proposal will be placed from SPI-3 to SPC-2.  Larry Lamers seconded the
motion.  George and Larry accepted a friendly amendment from Ralph Weber
changing `SPC-2' to `SPC-2 or SAM-2'.  John Lohmeyer stated that this topic is
specific to parallel SCSI only, thus the annex should be placed in SPI-3.  Bob
Snively supported John.  The motion to amend failed 4:16:4:23=47.

The original motion (amended to remove discussion of margining) passed
19:3:5:20=47.

10.7.4 Protection for the Asynchronous Information Phases (99-119r3) [Evans &
Leshay]

John Lohmeyer reported that the April working group recommended that 99-119 be
incorporated in SPI-3.  During the May working group, additional corrections
were incorporated.  Since the revised document has not been available for two
weeks, John said that action on this item as been deferred to the July
meeting, with additional consideration of the revised proposal to be scheduled
for the July SPI-3 working group meeting.  In the absence of any objections,
action was deferred to the July meeting.

10.7.5 Fairness Feature Control in SPI-3 (99-160r1) [Elliott/Houlder]

In the absence of any objections, the committee agreed to defer consideration
of this proposal to the July meeting.

10.7.6 Proposed Modifications to Annex A (99-174r0) [Aloisi/et.al.]

George reported that the April working group identified several
inconsistencies in Annex A with 99-174r0 addressing those problems.  Paul
Aloisi moved that 99-174r0 be approved for inclusion in SPI-3.  The motion
passed 21:2:1:23=47.  Gerry Houlder stated that his negative vote is based on
concerns that the document does not show how changes affect compatibility with
SPI-2.

10.7.7 Slow DT Timing Revision Proposal for SPI-3 (99-183r1) [Milligan]

In the absence of Gene Milligan, George Penokie moved that 99-183r1 be
approved for inclusion in SPI-3.  Bill Galloway seconded the motion.  The
motion passed 22:0:3:22=47.

10.7.8 Groundwork for Expander Communication (99-169r1) [Lamers/Bastiani]

Larry Lamers moved that 99-169r1 be approved for inclusion in SPI-3.  Bill
Galloway seconded the motion.  In the absence of any objections, the motion
passed unanimously.

10.7.9 Packetized cleanup and improvements (99-170r1) [Galloway]

Based on the unanimous recommendation of the working group, Bill Galloway
moved that 99-170r1 be approved for inclusion in SPI-3.  Gerry Houlder
seconded the motion.  In the absence of any objections, the motion passed
unanimously.

10.7.10  Restrict QAS to Packetized (99-173r0) [Galloway]

Based on the unanimous recommendation of the working group, Bill Galloway
moved that 99-173r0 be approved for inclusion in SPI-3.  Larry Lamers seconded
the motion.  Jeff Williams noted that QAS has usefulness in both modes and he
expressed a preference to fix QAS in non-packetized rather than throwing it
out.  Bill Galloway described the difficulty of fixing non-QAS mode related to
the exponential increase in the number of cases to be studied.  Larry Lamers
stated an intention to continue studying the problem for possible future
enhancements.  The motion passed 16:1:4:26=47.  Jeff Williams stated that his
negative vote was based on issues he raised during the discussion of the
motion.

10.7.11  SPI-3 Technical Changes (99-184r1) [Penokie]

George Penokie moved that 99-184r1 be approved for inclusion in SPI-3.  John
Lohmeyer seconded the motion.

Jeff Williams moved to amend the motion to approve inclusion of all items in
99-184r1 except those that disallow disconnects in the middle of a packet.
Dal Allan seconded the motion.  Jeff stated the belief that the amendment
returns SPI-3 to the originally intended definition.  George Penokie expressed
the belief that mid-packet disconnects were never intended in the definition
of packetized.  Larry Lamers stated that breaking the packet runs counter to
the design of packetized SCSI.

Dal Allan demonstrated that the argument boils down to whether parallel
packets map to fibre channel frames or sequences.  If sequences, then
mid-packet disconnects should be allowed.  If frames, then they should be
disallowed.

The motion to amend failed 2:8:14:23=47.

The original motion passed 13:1:10:23=47.  Jeff Williams stated that his
negative vote was based on the proposed requirement that disconnects are not
allowed in the middle of a packet.

10.7.12  Project Proposal for SPI-4 (Ultra320 SCSI) (99-140r3) [Lamers]

Larry Lamers reviewed the history of the SPI-4 project proposal.  John
Lohmeyer stated that George Penokie has volunteered to be the project editor
for SPI-4.  Larry Lamers moved that 99-140r3 be forwarded to NCITS as a new
project proposal for a SPI-4 standard.  Paul Aloisi seconded the motion.  The
motion passed 24:0:0:23=47.

John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward 99-140r3 to NCITS as a project
proposal for SPI-4.

10.7.13  Fairness Feature Control in SPC-2 and FCP-2 (99-160r2)
[Elliott/Houlder]

Rob Elliott moved that 99-160r2 be approved for inclusion in SPC-2 and FCP-2.
Bill Galloway seconded the motion.  The motion passed 20:0:0:27=47

10.7.14  Suggested changes to REPORT LUNS command for SPC-2 and SAM-2
(99-144r1) [Snively]

Based on the unanimous recommendation of the working group, Bob Snively moved
that 99-144r1 be approved for inclusion in SPC-2 and SAM-2.  Bill Galloway
seconded the motion.  The motion passed 24:0:0:23=47.

10.7.15  Still more on Persistent Reservations parts II and III in SPC-2
(99-182r1) [Coughlan]

Based on the unanimous recommendation of the working group, Tom Coughlan moved
that 99-182r1 be approved for inclusion in SPC-2.  Bill Galloway seconded the
motion.  The motion passed 24:0:0:23=47.

Based on a requested from Bob Snively, Ralph Weber agreed to take an action
item to review editorially the second sentence of item c in clause 5.3.2.5.3
before including 99-182r1.

10.7.16  Make SEND command optional in processor command set in SPC-2 [Lamers]

Larry Lamers moved that the SEND command be made optional in the processor
command set.  Bob Snively seconded the motion.  The committee discussed the
usage of the SEND command.  The motion passed 17:1:4:25=47.  Jeff Williams
stated that his negative vote was based on the absence of a written proposal.

10.8   Clarification of T10 Standards Development Policy and Procedures
(94-198r3) [Milligan]

John Lohmeyer took an action item to arrange a conference call to discuss
changes in 94-198r3 (T10 Standards Development Policy and Procedures).

10.9   Project Proposals for RMC and MMC-3 (99-154r1 and 99-153r1) [Roberts]

The committee reviewed 99-153r1 and requested some corrections.  Ron Roberts
moved that T10 forward 99-153r2 (r1 as modified) to NCITS as a new project
proposal for MMC-3.  Bob Snively seconded the motion.  The motion passed
26:0:0:21=47.

Ron Roberts took an action item to prepare 99-153r2 for forwarding to NCITS as
a new project proposal for MMC-3.  John Lohmeyer took an action item to
forward 99-153r2 to NCITS as a new project proposal for MMC-3.

The committee reviewed 99-154r1 and requested some corrections.  Ron Roberts
moved that T10 forward 99-154r2 (r1 as modified) to NCITS as a new project
proposal for RMC (Reduced Multi-media Commands).  Bob Snively seconded the
motion.  The motion passed 26:0:0:21=47.

Ron Roberts took an action item to prepare 99-154r2 for forwarding to NCITS as
a new project proposal for RMC (Reduced Multi-media Commands).  John Lohmeyer
took an action item to forward 99-154r2 to NCITS as a new project proposal for
RMC (Reduced Multi-media Commands).

10.10  Addition of Version Descriptors in SPC-2 [Snively]

Bob Snively moved that the following standards and draft standards be assigned
version descriptor codes in SPC-2: FC-PLDA ANSI NCITS TR-19:1998, FC-PLDA
T11/1162-DT revision 2.1, FC-FLA ANSI NCITS TR-20:1998, FC-FLA T11/1235-DT
revision 7, FC-Tape T11/1315-DT revision 1.16, and FC-AL-2 T11/1133-D revision
7.0.  Ralph Weber seconded the motion.  In the absence of any objections, the
motion passed unanimously.

Ralph Weber took an action item to assign SPC-2 version descriptor codes for
FC-PLDA ANSI NCITS TR-19:1998, FC-PLDA T11/1162-DT revision 2.1, FC-FLA ANSI
NCITS TR-20:1998, FC-FLA T11/1235-DT revision 7, FC-Tape T11/1315-DT revision
1.16, and FC-AL-2 T11/1133-D revision 7.0.

11.    ISO

11.1   ISO Report [Milligan]

Gene Milligan was unable to attend.  However, he provided an electronic report
contained in 99-186r0.  John Lohmeyer offered to read the report to the
committee, but by unanimous consent, the committee waived the reading of the
ISO report.

11.2   ISO Business [Milligan]

Gene Milligan (IR) was given an action item to contact Peter Johansson for a
recommendation regarding whether SBP-2 should be submitted for ISO
standardization and whether Peter is willing to edit the resulting ISO
project.

John Lohmeyer moved that the IR be instructed to submit a NWIP and a CD
contribution for RBC to ISO/IEC for consideration.  Larry Lamers seconded the
motion.  The motion passed on a roll-call vote of 24:1:0:22=47, details of the
vote are as follows:

Organization                Stat Name                    Yes No Abs NP

Adaptec, Inc.                P   Mr. Lawrence J. Lamers   1
AMP, Inc.                    P   Mr. Scott Lindstrom                 1
Amphenol Interconnect        P   Mr. Bill Mable                      1
Ancot Corp.                  P   Mr. Bart Raudebaugh                 1
Apple Computer               A   Mr. Ron Roberts          1
Berg Electronics             P   Mr. Douglas Wagner                  1
BREA Technologies, Inc.      P   Mr. Bill Galloway        1
Circuit Assembly Corp.       P   Mr. Ian Morrell                     1
CMD Technology               P   Mr. Edward Haske                    1
Compaq Computer Corp.        P   Mr. Robert C. Elliott    1
Crossroads Systems, Inc.     A   Mr. Stephen K. Wilson    1
Dallas Semiconductor         P   Mr. Charles Tashbook                1
Distributed Processing Tech. P   Mr. Roger Cummings       1
ENDL                         P   Mr. I. Dal Allan            1
Exabyte Corp.                P   Mr. Tom Jackson                     1
Fujitsu (FCPA)               P   Mr. Ben-Koon Lin         1
Harting, Inc. of N. America  P   Mr. Marcos Barrionuevo              1
Hewlett Packard Co.          P   Mr. J. R. Sims                      1
Hitachi Cable Manchester     A   Ms. Jacqueline Sylvia    1
Hitachi Storage Products     P   Mr. Anthony Yang                    1
Honda Connectors             P   Mr. Thomas J. Kulesza               1
IBM Corp.                    P   Mr. George O. Penokie    1
Iomega Corp.                 P   Mr. Tim Bradshaw                    1
KnowledgeTek, Inc.           P   Mr. Dennis Moore         1
Lasercard Systems Corp.      P   Mr. Hayden Smith                    1
Linfinity Micro              P   Mr. Louis Grantham       1
LSI Logic Corp.              P   Mr. John Lohmeyer        1
Madison Cable Corp.          P   Ms. Jie Fan              1
Maxtor Corp.                 P   Mr. Pete McLean          1
Methode Electronics, Inc.    P   Mr. Bob Masterson                   1
Molex Inc.                   P   Mr. Joe Dambach                     1
Mylex Corp.                  P   Mr. Brian McKean         1
Ophidian Designs             P   Mr. Edward A. Gardner               1
Panasonic Technologies, Inc  P   Mr. Han Zou                         1
Philips Electronics          P   Mr. William P. McFerrin  1
QLogic Corp.                 P   Mr. Skip Jones                      1
Quantum Corp.                P   Mr. Mark Evans           1
Seagate Technology           A   Mr. Gerald Houlder       1
Silicon Systems, Inc.        P   Mr. Robert Morris        1
Storage Technology Corp.     P   Mr. Erich Oetting        1
Sun Microsystems Computer Co P   Mr. Robert N. Snively    1
The JPM Company              P   Mr. Bill Youngman                   1
Toshiba America Elec. Comp.  P   Mr. Tasuku Kasebayashi   1
UNISYS Corporation           P   Mr. Kenneth J. Hallam               1
Unitrode Corporation         P   Mr. Paul D. Aloisi       1
Western Digital Corporation  P   Mr. Jeffrey L. Williams  1
Woven Electronics            P   Mr. Doug Piper                      1

                                                         24  1   0  22 = 47

Dal Allan stated that the reason for his negative vote was opposition to ISO
rubber-stamping of ANSI standards.

Gene Milligan was given an action item to submit a NWIP and a CD contribution
for RBC to ISO/IEC for consideration.

Erich Oetting moved to approve the T10 delegation to the WG 4 delegation to
Berlin comprising Gene Milligan as the head of delegation.  Jeff Williams
seconded the motion.  In the absence of any objections, the motion passed
unanimously.   John Lohmeyer noted that the T11 delegation is Kumar Malavali
and Gene Milligan.

12.    Liaison Reports

12.1   T11 Liaison Report [Cummings]

No report.

12.2   T13 Liaison Report [Milligan]

Gene Milligan provided the following electronic report for the minutes:

T13 met last week in Longmont hosted by Seagate.

Files Support for SMART Read/Write Logging and SMART Attributes and Thresholds
(D99104r1) optional feature was unanimously voted to be incorporated in
proposed the ATA/ATPI-5 draft standard.

Ultra DMA 66 proposal D98133r4 was unanimously incorporated in the ATA/ATAPI-5
draft and the issue of timings at the sender was added to the open issues
list.

ATA/ATAPI-5 draft was reviewed and the next revision of 1321D was unanimously
approved as working draft revision 1 and an appropriate minor revision number
in the Identify data will be assigned. 11:0:0:8.

The current schedule was extended three months resulting in the letter ballot
8/99 with forwarding in 9/99 and public review in 11/99.

The EDD v3.0 New Technical project was approved by and project number 1386-D
was assigned.

A page by page review of the initial proposal for a Method for Booting
Reserved Area Boot Code standard was completed.

Two proposals for a Really Big LBA were reviewed. D98142R2 garnered general
interest in pursuing as the approach to expanded LBA addressing.

CFA Set Features (D98144r2) was unanimously approved for inclusion in the
ATA/ATAPI-5 draft.

An errata was approved correcting row alignment in Table 13 of ATA/ATAPI-4.

Pete McLean provided a liaison report that the EPA has posted a third revision
of the MOU. There is no longer a specification for time from low power to
active state. There is no time to ready requirements for disk drives. IDEMA
will be having a meeting on May 10 to discuss power consumption by disk
drives.

Circuit Assembly provided a letter offering to license their patents
concerning the 80 line cable with the offer extended to license beyond member
companies in accordance with the ANSI patent policy.

T13 is currently addressing issues regarding: ATA/ATAPI-5 Termination of the
DMA protocols due to an error is not clear;  can a device terminate a DMA
transfer before the sector count is exhausted?; existing operating systems do
not respect restriction 1) in 8.21.4, Packet command byte count limit may not
be zero. Should ATA/ATAPI-5 be changed to remove this restriction?; both
minimum receiver and sender timing is specified for Ultra DMA. Should the
timing be at the receiver only or should it be reduced to be closer to the
calculated budget?

A working group meeting was authorized for May 19-20 in San Jose CA, hosted by
Phoenix Technologies.

The next plenary meeting of T13 is 22-25 June, 1999 hosted by Phoenix
Technology at their facility in Irvine, California.

John Lohmeyer offered to read the report to the committee, but by unanimous
consent, the committee waived the reading of the T13 liaison report.

12.3   SFF Industry Group [Allan]

Dal Allan provided the following electronic report for the minutes:

The HSS (High Speed Serial) Testing SSWG (Specific Subject Working Group) has
finished its work on copper connectors, and the specification is almost
complete. The SSWG will continue, and work on optical connectors.

The proposed recovery of 3.3V and Spindle Sync pins from SFF-8045 for SCA-2
(Single Connector Attach) Fibre Channel drives generated a number of requests
for functions which appeared overwhelming. A solution was achieved which
satisfied everybody present at the SSWG.

Although SFF-8441 for VHDCI (Very High Density Cable Interconnects) has been
published, it will be revised to include the integrated EMI shielding proposed
by Molex.

The issues on SFF-8420 for HSSDC (High Speed Serial Data Connector) appear to
have been resolved. Since there is an interoperability issue with products
presently in the field, the next revision will include the date on which each
vendor believes its product was compliant to the SFF Specification.

INF-8090i for ATAPI DVD (Digital Video Disc) passed the ballot and will be
distributed as an Information specification.

The SSWG recommended that the proposed 68-pin connector for Fibre Channel tape
drives be ported to 80-pin SCA-2 because there may be other devices which need
special pin assignments. A 68-pin SCA-2 is not available. Confusion with a 3
1/2" form factor SCSI device can be avoided by offsetting from centerline.

Dal Allan offered to make an oral report to the committee, but by unanimous
consent, the committee waived presentation of the oral SFF liaison report.

12.4   IEEE 1394 [Johansson]

No report.

12.5   IEEE P1285 Status

No report.

12.6   IEEE P1596.8 Status

No report.  The committee agreed to remove this item from future agendas.

12.7   SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Jones/Aloisi]

Paul Aloisi reported that the STA meeting program is going strong.

The STA web site is receiving many hits.  The `ask a SCSI expert' is receiving
10 to 15 questions per day.  Paul's request for support regarding Apple
questions brought discussion and suggestions from the committee.

Paul reported on the release of a SCSI roadmap in mid April and the several
trade press articles that resulted.  The committee discussed with Paul the
general status of trade press articles, which are on the increase since
formation of STA.

Paul noted that a new database of SCSI suppliers is coming to the STA web
site, with direct links to each supplier's www home page.

Paul turned to the STA Tech activities and reported that SCSI Harbor
prototypes are being built for testing, with the main building activities
being performed by Intel and Silicon Graphics (SGI).

Paul reported that the next STA Marcom meeting has already begun at noon today
and that the next STA Tech meeting will start after this meeting and will
discuss primarily the SCSI Harbor activities.
13.    Review of Action Items

306)   Dave Peterson will prepare SSC revision 17 for letter ballot.
307)   John Lohmeyer will conduct a letter ballot on SSC revision 17 for
forwarding to first public review.
308)   Ralph Weber will assign an SPC-2 version descriptor code to SSC
revision 17.
309)   Bob Snively will correspond with the one person who had responded to
the reflector message in favor of retaining TTD and CIOP to solicit
corrections for the known problems.
310)   John Lohmeyer will notify NCITS that T10 recommends that project 1246-D
(SSS) be closed.
311)   John Lohmeyer will forward 99-140r4 to NCITS as a new project proposal
for SPI-4.
312)   Ralph Weber will review editorially the second sentence of item c in
clause 5.3.2.5.3 before including 99-182r1.
313)   John Lohmeyer will arrange a conference call to discuss changes in
94-198r3 (T10 Standards Development Policy and Procedures).
314)   Ron Roberts will prepare 99-153r2 for forwarding to NCITS as a new
project proposal for MMC-3.
315)   John Lohmeyer will forward 99-153r2 to NCITS as a new project proposal
for MMC-3.
316)   Ron Roberts will prepare 99-154r2 for forwarding to NCITS as a new
project proposal for RMC (Reduced Multi-media Commands).
317)   John Lohmeyer will forward 99-154r2 to NCITS as a new project proposal
RMC (Reduced Multi-media Commands).
318)   Gene Milligan (IR) will contact Peter Johansson for a recommendation
regarding whether SBP-2 should be submitted for ISO standardization and
whether Peter is willing to edit for the resulting ISO project.
319)   Gene Milligan will submit a NWIP and a CD contribution for RBC to
ISO/IEC for consideration.
320)   Ralph Weber took an action item to assign SPC-2 version descriptor
codes for FC-PLDA ANSI NCITS TR-19:1998, FC-PLDA T11/1162-DT revision 2.1,
FC-FLA ANSI NCITS TR-20:1998, FC-FLA T11/1235-DT revision 7, FC-Tape
T11/1315-DT revision 1.16, and FC-AL-2 T11/1133-D revision 7.0.

14.    Meeting Schedule

The next plenary meeting of T10 will be July 15, 1999 in Colorado Springs, CO
at the Doubletree Hotel (719-576-8900), hosted by LSI Logic.  The meeting will
begin at 9:00 a.m. on Thursday.

The meeting list for the next plenary week is:

                       July '99 Meeting Map
                         (5/6/99 Version)

Monday 7/12        9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9
                   +===============+===================+
                   |RBC (if needed)|SPI-3 WG           |              (50)
                   +---------------+===================+-----------+
                   | T11.3 FC-AL-3 / FC-AL-2                       |  (40)
                   +-----------------------------------+-----------+
                   | Mt. Fuji - 4 WG                   |              (20)
                   +-----------------------------------+

Tuesday 7/13       9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9
                   +===================================+
                   | SPI-3 WG                          |              (50)
                   +===================================+
                   | MMC-2 WG                          |              (20)
                   +===============+===================+===========+
                   | FC-AL-2       | SSC/FCP-2/FC-Tape joint WG    |  (40)
                   +---------------+===============================+

Wednesday 7/14     9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9
                   +=======================================+
                   | SCSI WG                               |          (50)
                   +===================================+===+
                   | MMC-2 WG                          |              (20)
                   +===============+===============+===+===+
                                   | SFF SSWGs     | SFF   |          (40)
                   +---------------+---------------+-------+
                   | T11 FC-VI                     |                  (15)
                   +-------------------------------+

Thursday 7/15      9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
                   +=====================+-----------------+
                   | T10 Plenary         / STA Tech (*)    |          (60/40)
                   +===========+========+------+-----------+
                               | STA Marcom    |                      (15)
                               +---------------+
 (*) - STA Technical meeting (includes SCSI Harbor) begins 30 minutes
       after the T10 plenary meeting but not before 2:30 pm

Friday 7/16    8   9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5
                 +-----------------------------+
                 | SCSI Trade Association (STA)|                      (30)
                 +-----------------------------+

    Meetings marked with == are T10-authorized meetings.
    Meetings marked with -- are authorized by other groups and may change
    without notice.

Other T10-authorized meetings:
Meeting        Date                Location / Contact
-------------  ------------------  --------------------------------------
T10/T11.3      6/9         Wed     Minneapolis, MN / T11
Joint Tape WG
(FC-Tape,
 SSC, FCP-2)
Cable Perf.    5/11        Tue     Manchester, NH / Zane Daggett
SPI-3 Edit     5/17 1:00pm Mon     Colorado Springs, CO / John Lohmeyer
               5/18        Tue
SPI-3 Timing   5/17 1:00pm Wed     Colorado Springs, CO / John Lohmeyer
Budget         5/18        Thu
CAM-3          6/29-30   Tue-Wed   Nashua, NH / Bill Dallas or Larry Lamers

Meeting Map Abbreviation Key:
Amnd:        Amendment
CAM:         Common Access Method
CAM-3:       Next generation CAM for SCSI-3
EPI:         SCSI Enhanced Parallel Interface (Technical Report)
Encl Profile Enclosure Profile Study Group
Fast-20:     Data Transfer at 20 Mega-transfers/second (a.k.a., Ultra)
Fast-40:     Data Transfer at 40 Mega-transfers/second (a.k.a., Ultra2)
Fast-80:     Data Transfer at 80 Mega-transfers/second (a.k.a., Ultra3)
FC:          Fibre Channel
FC-AL:       Fibre Channel - Arbitrated Loop (a T11 project)
FCLC:        Fibre Channel Loop Community (not an NCITS activity)
I/F:         Interface
HAP:         High Availability Profile (Technical Report)
LB:          Letter Ballot
MMC-2:       Multimedia Commands - 2 (CD-ROM, DVD, etc.)
PH:          Physical (Connectors, Cables, Transceivers, etc.)
Plenary:     Full Committee Meeting
RAID:        Redundant Array of Independent Devices
RBC:         Reduced Block Commands
SBC:         SCSI-3 Block Commands
SBP-2:       Serial Bus Protocol for IEEE 1394 (2nd generation protocol)
SCC-2:       SCSI Controller Commands - 2 (2nd generation RAID command set)
SCSI:        Small Computer System Interface
SES:         SCSI Enclosure Services
SCSI Harbor: A STA project on defining a wrapper for SCSI devices
SFF:         SFF Industry Group (not an NCITS activity)
SG:          Study Group
SMC:         SCSI-3 Medium Changer Commands
SPC-2:       SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (2nd generation)
SPI-2:       Second Generation SCSI Parallel Interface
SPI-3:       Third Generation SCSI Parallel Interface
SSA:         Serial Storage Interface
SSC:         SCSI-3 Stream Commands (includes Tape)
SSWGs:       Specific-Subject Working Groups
STA:         SCSI Trade Association (not an NCITS activity)
STA Tech:    STA Technical Meeting (T10 members invited)
T10:         Lower Level Interfaces Technical Committee
WG:          Working Group (same as Ad Hoc Group)


For more information about T10 activities, please contact the following
people:

Activity                     Contact         Telephone/Email
---------------------------- --------------- ------------------------------
CAM-3                        Bill Dallas     (603) 881-2508
                                             dallas at zk3.dec.com
EPI                          Bill Ham        (508) 841-2629
                                             bill.ham at digital.com
FCP, FCP-2, SES              Robert Snively  (415) 336-5332
                                             Bob.Snively at eng.sun.com
GPP                          Gary Stephens   (602) 321-1725
                                             grsfsi at aol.com
SBC                          Gene Milligan   (405) 324-3070
                                             gene_milligan at notes.seagate.com
MMC, MMC-2                   Ron Roberts     (916) 677-5714
                                             rkroberts at aol.com
SBP-2 or RBC                 Pete McLean     (303) 678-2149
                                             pete_mclean at maxtor.com
SBP-2                        Peter Johansson (510) 527-3926
                                             pjohansson at aol.com
SCC-2, SPI-2, SPI-3          George Penokie  (507) 253-5208
                                             gop at us.ibm.com
SMC                          Erich Oetting   (303) 673-2178
                                             Erich_Oetting at Stortek.com
SPC, SPC-2, SAM-2            Ralph Weber     (972) 503-3205 x228
                                             roweber at acm.org
SSA-PH1,-PH2,-TL1,-TL2       Larry Lamers    (408) 957-7817
                                             ljlamers at ix.netcom.com
SSA-S2P & -S3P               John Scheible   (512) 823-8208
                                             Scheible at vnet.ibm.com
SSC                          Dave Peterson   (612) 391-1008
                                             dap at network.com
Other Activities             John Lohmeyer   (719) 533-7560
                                             lohmeyer at ix.netcom.com


The long-term T10 meeting week schedule is:

Date                Location                   Host/Comments
------------------  -------------------------  -------------------
Jul 12-16, 1999     Colorado Springs, CO       LSI Logic
Sep 13-17, 1999     Huntington Beach, CA       QLogic
Nov  1-5,  1999     Monterey, CA               Adaptec / dates changed
Jan 10-14, 2000     Brisbane, Australia        ENDL Pacific Technologies
Mar  6-10, 2000     Dallas, TX                 Unitrode
May  8-12, 2000     Manchester, NH             Hitachi Cable
Jul 10-14, 2000     Colorado Springs, CO       LSI Logic
Sep 11-15, 2000     Huntington Beach, CA       QLogic
Oct 30-Nov 3, 2000  Monterey, CA               Adaptec / dates changed

John Lohmeyer presented a preliminary 2001 meeting schedule and asked
committee members and potential hosts to come prepared to finalize the dates
at the July meeting.  The preliminary 2001 meeting schedule presented by John
was:

Jan 15-19, 2001
Mar   5-9, 2001
May  7-11, 2001
Jul 16-20, 2001
Sep 10-14, 2001
Nov   5-9, 2001


14.1     Authorization of Working Group Meetings

John noted that the working group meetings are required to operate under the
same voting procedures as does T10 (that is, one vote per organization) and
the results of a working group are not binding on the parent committee.  Ad
hoc groups should strive to achieve consensus prior to bringing issues to T10.

Erich Oetting moved that T10 authorize the T10-related meetings and events in
the list above.  Gerry Houlder seconded the motion.  In the absence of any
objections, the motion passed unanimously.

14.2   Increasing T10's Maximum Hotel Room Rate

Bob Snively moved that the T10 room night rate cap be increased to $175
including taxes and parking.  Paul Aloisi seconded the motion.  The motion
passed 20:0:3:24=47.

15.    Adjournment

The meeting was adjourned at 1:30 p.m. on Thursday May 6, 1999.

Meeting Attendees -- Enclosure (1)

         Name          S        Organization         Electronic Mail Address
---------------------- -- ------------------------- -------------------------
Mr. Lawrence J. Lamers P  Adaptec, Inc.             ljlamers at ieee.org
Mr. Bill Mable         P  Amphenol Interconnect     bmable at spectra.net
Mr. Gregg Neely        O  Andataco                  greggn at andataco.com
Mr. Ron Roberts        A  Apple Computer            rkroberts at aol.com
Mr. Douglas Wagner     P  Berg Electronics          wagnerdl at bergelect.com
Mr. Bill Galloway      P  BREA Technologies, Inc.   billg at breatech.com
Mr. Dennis Lang        A  Circuit Assembly Corp.    dennisl at circuitassembly.
                                                    com
Mr. Robert C. Elliott  P  Compaq Computer Corp.     Robert.Elliott at compaq.com
Mr. Tom Coughlan       V  Compaq Computer Corp.     tom.coughlan at digital.com
Mr. Stephen K. Wilson  A  Crossroads Systems, Inc.  steve at crossroads.com
Mr. Charles Tashbook   P  Dallas Semiconductor      charles.tashbook at dalsemi.
                                                    com
Mr. Roger Cummings     P  Distributed Processing    cummings_roger at dpt.com
                          Tech.
Mr. I. Dal Allan       P  ENDL                      endlcom at ibm.net
Mr. Ben-Koon Lin       P  Fujitsu (FCPA)            blin at fcpa.fujitsu.com
Ms. Jacqueline Sylvia  A  Hitachi Cable Manchester  jsylvia at hcm.hitachi.com
Mr. Zane Daggett       P  Hitachi Cable Manchester, zdaggett at hcm.hitachi.com
                          Inc
Mr. George O. Penokie  P  IBM Corp.                 gop at us.ibm.com
Mr. Dan Colegrove      A# IBM Corp.                 colegrov at us.ibm.com
Mr. Tim Bradshaw       P  Iomega Corp.              bradshat at iomega.com
Mr. Dennis Moore       P  KnowledgeTek, Inc.        dmoore at ix.netcom.com
Mr. Louis Grantham     P  Linfinity Micro           lgrantham at linfinity.com
Mr. John Lohmeyer      P  LSI Logic Corp.           lohmeyer at ix.netcom.com
Mr. Ralph O. Weber     A  LSI Logic Corp.           roweber at acm.org
Ms. Jie Fan            P  Madison Cable Corp.       jfan at madisoncable.com
Mr. Chuck Grant        A  Madison Cable Corp.       cgrant at madisoncable.com
Mr. Pete McLean        P  Maxtor Corp.              pete_mclean at maxtor.com
Mr. Charley Riegger    A  Maxtor Corp.              charles_riegger at maxtor.
                                                    com
Mr. Jay Neer           A  Molex Inc.                jneer at molex.com
Mr. Allen King         A  Mylex Corp.               allenk at mylex.com
Mr. Han Zou            P  Panasonic Technologies,   hanzou at research.
                          Inc                       panasonic.com
Mr. William P.         P  Philips Electronics       BMcFerrin at aol.com
McFerrin
Mr. Keiji Katata       V  Pioneer Electronic Corp.  keiji_Katata at post.
                                                    pioneer.co.jp
Mr. Takeshi Kohda      V  Pioneer Electronics Corp. takeshi_kohda at post.
                                                    pioneer.co.jp
Mr. Toshiro Tanikawa   V  Pioneer Electronics Corp. tanikawa at post.pioneer.co.
                                                    jp
Mr. Mark Evans         P  Quantum Corp.             mark.evans at quantum.com
Mr. Gerald Houlder     A  Seagate Technology        Gerry_Houlder at notes.
                                                    seagate.com
Mr. Robert Morris      P  Silicon Systems, Inc.     bob.morris at ti.com
Mr. Paresh Sheth       V  Silicon Systems, Inc.     paresh.sheth at ti.com
Mr. Erich Oetting      P  Storage Technology Corp.  erich_oetting at stortek.com
Mr. Robert N. Snively  P  Sun Microsystems          bob.snively at sun.com
                          Computer Co
Mr. Tasuku Kasebayashi P  Toshiba America Elec.     task.kasebayashi at taec.
                          Comp.                     toshiba.com
Mr. Kenneth J. Hallam  P  UNISYS Corporation        ken.hallam at unisys.com
Mr. Paul D. Aloisi     P  Unitrode Corporation      aloisi at unitrode.com
Mr. Richard S. DeMars  V  Unitrode Corporation      demars at unitrode.com
Mr. Jeffrey L.         P  Western Digital           Jeffrey.L.Williams at wdc.
Williams                  Corporation               com
Mr. Masahiro Ito       V  Yamagata Fujitsu Ltd.     mike at yfl.cs.fujitsu.co.jp

46 People Present

Status Key:  P    -  Principal
             A,A# -  Alternate
             O    -  Observer
             L    -  Liaison
             V    -  Visitor

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