Draft Minutes T10 Plenary Meeting #32 - July 15, 1999

John Lohmeyer lohmeyer at ix.netcom.com
Fri Jul 23 12:02:05 PDT 1999


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Accredited Standards Committee*
National Committee for Information Technology Standards (NCITS)

                                               Doc. No.: T10/99-202r0
                                                   Date: July 23, 1999
                                               Reply to: John Lohmeyer

To:      T10 Membership
From:    Ralph Weber / John Lohmeyer
Subject: Minutes of T10 Plenary Meeting #32 -- July 15, 1999
         Colorado Springs, CO

Agenda

1.     Opening Remarks
2.     Approval of Agenda
3.     Attendance and Membership
3.1      Voting procedures
4.     Approval of Minutes - May `99 Meeting Manchester, NH (T10/99-177r1)
5.     Document Distribution
6.     Call for Patents
7.     Review of Old Action Items
8.     Project Status Reports
8.1      Project Status Summary and NCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]
8.2      SCSI Common Access Method - 3 (CAM-3) Status {Project 990-D} [Dallas]
8.3      SCSI-3 Stream Commands (SSC) Status {Project 997-D} [Peterson]
8.4      SCSI Fibre Channel Protocol - 2 (FCP-2) {Project 1144-D} [Snively]
8.5      SCSI Architecture Model - 2 (SAM-2) {Project 1157-D} [Weber]
8.6      Multimedia Command Set - 2 (MMC-2) Status {Project 1228-D} [Roberts]
8.7      SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (SPC-2) Status {Project 1236-D} [Weber]
8.8      Reduced Block Commands (RBC) {Project 1240-D} [McLean]
8.9      SCSI Socket/SSL Services Command Set (SSS)  {Project 1246-D} [Parker]
8.10     SCSI Parallel Interface - 3 (SPI-3) {Project 1302-D} [Penokie]
8.11     SCSI Enclosure Profile (SEP) Technical Report {Project 1303-DT}
[Weber]
8.12     MultiMedia Command Set - 3 (MMC-3) {Project 1363-D} [Roberts]
8.13     Reduced MultiMedia Command Set (RMC) {Project 1364-D} [Roberts]
8.14     SCSI Parallel Interface - 4 (SPI-4) {Project 1365-D} [Penokie]
9.     Old Business
9.1      Recommendation that NCITS withdraw X3.276:1997 SCSI-3 Controller
Commands
9.2      Recommendation that NCITS withdraw X3.253:1995 SCSI-3 Parallel
Interface & its Amendment
9.3      Recommendation that NCITS withdraw X3.292:1997 SCSI-3 Interlocked
Protocol
9.4      Recommendation that NCITS withdraw X3.277:1996 Fast-20
9.5      Cable Testing Requirements (99-111r3) [Daggett]
9.6      Protection for the Asynchronous Information Phases (99-119r6) [Evans
& Leshay]
9.7      Fairness Feature Control in SPI-3 (99-160r3) [Elliott/Houlder]
10.    New Business
10.1     Approval of MMC-2 Letter Ballot Comments Resolution and Forwarding to
NCITS for First Public Review (98-230r2) [Roberts]
10.2     Actions on Working Group Recommendations
10.2.1     Asynchronous Information Protection (99-119r6) [Evans]
10.2.2     SPI-3 Table Restructuring (99-188r1) [Smith]
10.2.3     SPI-3 Normal Arbitration Fairness Control in SPI-3 (99-160r3)
[Elliott]
10.2.4     SPI-3 cable performance (99-111r3) [Ham]
10.2.5     Change CRC timing values (99-185r2) [Elliott]
10.2.6     Change in MSE High-Z Current Specification (99-187r2) [Lohmeyer]
10.2.7     Release Glitch Management for QAS (99-191r1) [Moore]
10.2.8     Packetized error handling changes (99-212r1) [Penokie]
10.2.9     SPI-3 Timing Budget (99-127r8) [Aloisi]
10.2.10      ASC/ASCQ for CRC errors during DT transfer (99-210r1) [Williams]
10.2.11      ASCQ codes for ASC 5Dh (informational exceptions) (99-217r0)
[Elliott]
10.2.12      REPORT LUNS and small allocation lengths (99-197r0) [Elliott]
10.2.13      Persistent Reservations Conflict Behavior (99-219r0) [Coughlan]
10.2.14      Register and Ignore Existing Key (99-199r0) [Coughlan]
10.2.15      EXTENDED COPY command (99-163r2) [Weber]
10.2.16      Application Client Log Page (99-180r1) [Houlder/Weber]
10.2.17      Domain Validation TR project proposal (99-214r1) [Lamers]
10.3     Resolution of RBC public review comments (99-209r1, 99-198) [Roberts]
10.4     Resolution of SSC letter ballot comments (99-011r1) [Peterson]
10.5     Consideration of motion to stabilize SPI-3 revision 7
10.6     Results of Letter Ballot on forwarding SSC to First Public Review
(99-011r2) [Lohmeyer]
10.7     Persistent Reservations [Milligan]

11.    ISO
11.1     ISO Report [Milligan]
11.2     ISO Business [Milligan]
11.2.1     Approve DIS 14776-342 SCC-2 as presented
11.2.2     Recommend withdrawal of the SIP project
11.2.3     Recommend Fast Track of NCITS.325:1998 SBP-2
11.2.4     MMC-2 NWI and CD
12.    Liaison Reports
12.1     T11 Liaison Report [Wanamaker]
12.2     T13 Liaison Report [Milligan]
12.3     SFF Industry Group [Allan]
12.4     IEEE 1394 [Johansson]
12.5     IEEE P1285 Status
12.6     SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Jones/Aloisi]
13.    Review of Action Items
14.    Meeting Schedule
14.1       Authorization of Working Group Meetings
15.    Adjournment


Results of Meeting

1.     Opening Remarks

John Lohmeyer, the T10 Chair, called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m.,
Thursday July 15, 1999.  He thanked LSI Logic for hosting the meeting.

John said that NCITS Subgroup Membership forms and the T10 Mailing
Subscription form were available on the document table.  He said that people
should use the NCITS forms to insure the NCITS Secretariat has the latest
membership information.  These forms should be mailed directly to the NCITS
Secretariat.

As is customary, the people attending introduced themselves and a copy of the
attendance list was circulated.  Copies of the draft agenda and general
information on T10 were made available to those attending.

2.     Approval of Agenda

The draft agenda was approved with the following additions/changes:

3.1      Voting procedures
10.2.1     Asynchronous Information Protection (99-119r6) [Evans]
10.2.2     SPI-3 Table Restructuring (99-188r1) [Smith]
10.2.3     SPI-3 Normal Arbritration Fairness Control in SPI-3 (99-160r3)
[Elliott]
10.2.4     SPI-3 cable performance (99-111r3) [Ham]
10.2.5     Change CRC timing values (99-185r2) [Elliott]
10.2.6     Change in MSE High-Z Current Specification (99-187r2) [Lohmeyer]
10.2.7     Release Glitch Management for QAS (99-191r1) [Moore]
10.2.8     Packetized error handling changes (99-212r1) [Penokie]
10.2.9     SPI-3 Timing Budget (99-127r8) [Aloisi]
10.2.10      ASC/ASCQ for CRC errors during DT transfer (99-210r0) [Williams]
10.2.11      ASCQ codes for ASC 5Dh (informational exceptions) (99-217r0)
[Elliott]
10.2.12      REPORT LUNS and small allocation lengths (99-197r0) [Elliott]
10.2.13      Persistent Reservations Conflict Behavior (99-219r0) [Coughlan]
10.2.14      Register and Ignore Existing Key (99-199r0) [Coughlan]
10.2.15      EXTENDED COPY command (99-163r2) [Weber]
10.2.16      Application Client Log Page (99-180r1) [Houlder/Weber]
10.2.17      Domain Validation TR project proposal (99-214r1) [Lamers]
11.2.1     Approve DIS 14776-342 SCC-2 as presented
11.2.2     Recommend withdrawal of the SIP project
11.2.3     Recommend Fast Track of NCITS.325:1998 SBP-2

The following agenda items were added/revised during the course of the
meeting:

10.5     Consideration of motion to stablize SPI-3 revision 7
10.6     Results of Letter Ballot on forwarding SSC to First Public Review
(99-011r2) [Lohmeyer]
10.7     Persistent Reservations [Milligan]
11.2.4     MMC-2 NWI and CD

3.     Attendance and Membership

The membership requirements were reviewed.  NCITS rules permit one vote per
organization.  An individual from a new organization must attend two out of
three consecutive plenary meetings.  He/she may apply for voting membership
the second meeting via a letter to the Chair of T10.  The individual may apply
for membership and begin voting at anytime following adjournment of the first
meeting.  Typically, the individual applies for membership and start casting
votes at the second plenary meeting.  Working group and other ad hoc meetings
do not count toward attendance requirements.

The option that allows a person attending their first meeting may become a
voting member immediately following that meeting, provided their NCITS fees
have been paid, permits a new member to vote on letter ballots issued between
his/her first and second meetings.


To maintain membership, organizations must pay the NCITS Service Fee ($300).
The ANSI International Program Fee (also $300) is billed at the same time.

John briefly discussed the mailing fees.  Complete pricing information is
contained in the 1999 membership form (available at
ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/mem_form.txt).

There are also minimum attendance requirements to maintain voting membership
on T10.  If a member organization fails to attend two of the last three T10
meetings, they are warned that failing to attend the next T10 meeting would
result in their membership being terminated.  The Chair said he had sent
letters to 21 people from 10 organizations informing them that their
membership was in jeopardy due to non-attendance (see 99-006r0) and that their
membership would be terminated if they did not attend this meeting. The
following organizations were in attendance jeopardy:

AMP, Inc.
Ancot Corp.
Distributed Processing Tech.
Exabyte Corp.
Hitachi Storage Products
Methode Electronics, Inc.
Ophidian Designs
The JPM Company
Western Digital Corporation
Woven Electronics

All of the organizations were present except:

The JPM Company

They were terminated due to lack of attendance (i.e., the principal member was
changed to observer status and the first alternate member, if any, was
dropped; additional alternates, if any, were changed to observers).

At the end of the meeting, the following organizations requested new (or
reinstated) membership:

Andataco
General Dynamics

The following organization requested voting membership following the meeting:

Advansys

The T10 membership during the meeting varied from 44 to 46 organizations (as
members from two of the organizations in jeopardy arrived later in the
meeting).  Total voting membership following the meeting was 49 organizations
up from 47 organizations following the last meeting.  Enclosure (1) is the
list of the people present at the meeting and enclosure (2) is the current T10
membership list.

3.1    Voting procedures

John Lohmeyer stated that the most recent instructions from the NCITS
secretariat are to treat all actions as final actions for the purposes of the
`two week' rule.  He further noted that NCITS is in the process of clarifying
the `two week' rule and changes are likely.

Gene Milligan questioned the sense of the current `two week' rule, stating
that he could invoke the `two week' rule in regards to the agenda changes made
earlier in this meeting.  Larry Lamers asked for consistent application of the
rules and John agreed to do so to the best of his abilities.

4.     Approval of Minutes - May `99 Meeting Manchester, NH (T10/99-177r1)

The minutes were approved as written.

5.     Document Distribution

Members who have any problems with their mailing subscription should deal
directly with Judy Gales (jgales at itic.org) (202) 626-5741.

John Lohmeyer requested that all documents for the next mailing be in his
hands in electronic format by 10:30 a.m. on Thursday July 22, 1999.  Documents
received after this time will go into a subsequent mailing.

John reminded the committee of the requirements for document submission.
Since T10 meets its document retention requirements by preparing mailings,
documents included in the mailing must be suitable for archiving.  This means
that native-format and/or Portable Document Format (PDF) electronic originals
with proper identification must be submitted.

The electronic copies can be sent directly to John by e-mail (at
lohmeyer at ix.netcom.com), or they can be transferred by ftp protocol to

ftp.t10.org and placed in the /incoming directory. In the latter case, please
also send e-mail to John informing him of the file name and location of the
file.

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The current document register is enclosure (3).  The T10 document register is
also available at:

   ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/dr.txt

6.     Call for Patents

This is a regular agenda item to identify any potential patent issues with
developing standards.

A document is available from ANSI, "Procedures for the Development and
Coordination of American National Standards", at no charge.  This document is
also on the WWW at http://www.ncits.org/help/ansi_sdo.html.  Section 1.2.11
contains the ANSI patent policy.  Amy Marasco manages patent issues for ANSI
and can be contacted at amarasco at ansi.org or 212-642-4954.

John noted that he had received a letter from Barry Blount of Compaq
(99-192r0) stating Compaq's position regarding US Patent 5,586,272 as applied
to SPI-2 implementations.  This patent may apply to the multi-party
handshaking used in the SCAM protocol.

A call for patents was made.

Gene Milligan stated that he was acting on behalf of a Seagate customer and
presented 99-220 (describing patent 4,633,350) to the committee.  He requested
that the Chair consider issues related to how this patent might interact with
T10 approved standards, technical reports, and projects.  John agreed to
consider the patent issues.
No other patents were disclosed at this meeting.

7.     Review of Old Action Items

306)   Dave Peterson will prepare SSC revision 17 for letter ballot.
Complete.
307)   John Lohmeyer will conduct a letter ballot on SSC revision 17 for
forwarding to first public review.  Complete.
308)   Ralph Weber will assign an SPC-2 version descriptor code to SSC
revision 17.  Complete.
309)   Bob Snively will correspond with the one person who had responded to
the reflector message in favor of retaining TTD and CIOP to solicit
corrections for the known problems.  Complete.
310)   John Lohmeyer will notify NCITS that T10 recommends that project 1246-D
(SSS) be closed.  Complete.
311)   John Lohmeyer will forward 99-140r4 to NCITS as a new project proposal
for SPI-4.  Complete.
312)   Ralph Weber will review editorially the second sentence of item c in
clause 5.3.2.5.3 before including 99-182r1.  Carry over.
313)   John Lohmeyer will arrange a conference call to discuss changes in
94-198r3 (T10 Standards Development Policy and Procedures).  Carry over.
314)   Ron Roberts will prepare 99-153r2 for forwarding to NCITS as a new
project proposal for MMC-3.  Complete.
315)   John Lohmeyer will forward 99-153r2 to NCITS as a new project proposal
for MMC-3.  Complete.
316)   Ron Roberts will prepare 99-154r2 for forwarding to NCITS as a new
project proposal for RMC (Reduced Multi-media Commands).  Complete.
317)   John Lohmeyer will forward 99-154r2 to NCITS as a new project proposal
RMC (Reduced Multi-media Commands).  Complete.
318)   Gene Milligan (IR) will contact Peter Johansson for a recommendation
regarding whether SBP-2 should be submitted for ISO standardization and
whether Peter is willing to edit for the resulting ISO project.  Complete
319)   Gene Milligan will submit a NWIP and a CD contribution for RBC to
ISO/IEC for consideration.  Carry over.
320)   Ralph Weber will assign SPC-2 version descriptor codes for FC-PLDA ANSI
NCITS TR-19:1998, FC-PLDA T11/1162-DT revision 2.1, FC-FLA ANSI NCITS
TR-20:1998, FC-FLA T11/1235-DT revision 7, FC-Tape T11/1315-DT revision 1.16,
and FC-AL-2 T11/1133-D revision 7.0.  Complete.

8.     Project Status Reports

8.1    Project Status Summary and NCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]

John Lohmeyer said that the current T10 project status summary was included in
the T10 Information Packages distributed prior to the meeting and will be
included in the mailing as usual.  John noted that NCITS is meeting in a
couple of weeks in Washington, D.C..

8.2    SCSI Common Access Method - 3 (CAM-3) Status {Project 990-D} [Dallas]

Larry Lamers reported that the CAM-3 review meeting had identified at least

three areas needing changes in CAM-3.  Larry agreed to request minutes for
the
meeting from Bill Dallas, and took an action item to do so.

8.3    SCSI-3 Stream Commands (SSC) Status {Project 997-D} [Peterson]

Erich Oetting reported on the SSC meeting (minutes in 99-224).  Erich noted
that the group identified several editorial corrections in Annex C of SPC-2
(changes to make the tables match the SSC definitions).  John Lohmeyer
reported that the letter ballot on forwarding SSC revision 17 passed
42:3:0:2=47.  Erich reported that SSC was not ready for forwarding action at
this time, as resolution of the letter ballot comments was still in progress.

8.4    SCSI Fibre Channel Protocol - 2 (FCP-2) {Project 1144-D} [Snively]

Bob Snively reported that FCP-2 error recovery and tape error recovery have
found synergy and he described some of the FCP-2 changes that will result.
Bob stated that FCP-2 revision 2 has already been prepared and will be in the
next committee mailing.

8.5    SCSI Architecture Model - 2 (SAM-2) {Project 1157-D} [Weber]

Ralph Weber reported that the SCSI working group discussed recent enhancements
to the model for multi-port devices.  He stated that SAM-2 revision 11 will be
available for the next committee mailing and will contain the changes agreed
by the working group as well as all committee approved changes.  He expressed
the belief that further changes to the multi-port device model would best be
handled as proposals (not direct edits of SAM-2), and stated his personal
intention to follow that method.

8.6    Multimedia Command Set - 2 (MMC-2) Status {Project 1228-D} [Roberts]

Ron Roberts reported MMC-2 revision 11 that includes all comments from
Pioneer.  The working group completed a review of MMC-2 producing revision 11
with two minor changes.  Ron reported that 98-230r3 contains the comments
resolutions for the MMC-2 letter ballot.  Ron reported that working group
unanimously recommended that MMC-2 be forwarded to first public review.

8.7    SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (SPC-2) Status {Project 1236-D} [Weber]

Ralph Weber reported that SPC-2 revision 11 will be available for the next
committee mailing and will contain all committee approved changes.

8.8    Reduced Block Commands (RBC) {Project 1240-D} [McLean]

Pete McLean reported that the working group had resolved all the first public
review comments on RBC.  He noted that the changes in the area of persistent
reservations could be viewed as substantive.  The working group unanimously
recommended that RBC revision 10 be accepted as resolving public review
comments and forwarded to second public review.  Pete reported that 99-209r1
contains the public review comments resolution.

Pete reviewed the history of the ANSI pre-edit for RBC and explained that the
results of the ANSI pre-edit will be incorporated in RBC revision 10a.  He
stated the belief that a forwarding action for second public review would be
appropriate for RBC revision 10a at this meeting.  (Chair's note: This action
was taken under agenda item 10.3.)

Ralph Weber took an action item to add an SPC-2 version descriptor for RBC
revision 10a.

8.9    SCSI Socket/SSL Services Command Set (SSS)  {Project 1246-D} [Parker]

John said that this project had been closed by NCITS per T10's request.  It
will be dropped from subsequent agendas.  Gene Milligan asked that this item
be moved to old business for future agendas, instead of being dropped
entirely.  The agenda change was ratified by the committee.

8.10   SCSI Parallel Interface - 3 (SPI-3) {Project 1302-D} [Penokie]

George Penokie reported that SPI-3 revision 7 has been available for some
time.  The committee discussed stabilizing SPI-3 revision 7.  John Lohmeyer
stated that he preferred placing this item after the approval of working group
recommendations as it would improve its chances of passing.

Gene Milligan moved that the committee stabilize SPI-3 revision 7.  George
Penokie seconded the motion.  Gene Milligan noted that the voting procedure

requires a vote that is functionally equivalent to the NCITS two-thirds
voting
rule.

Mark Evans moved to defer consideration of the motion until agenda item 10.5.
Roger Cummings seconded the motion.  The motion to defer consideration passed
33:3:5:5=46.

8.11   SCSI Enclosure Profile (SEP) Technical Report {Project 1303-DT} [Weber]

John said that this project had been closed by NCITS per T10's request.  It
will be dropped from subsequent agendas.

8.12   MultiMedia Command Set - 3 (MMC-3) {Project 1363-D} [Roberts]

Ron Roberts reported that no proposal has been received from Mt. Fuji and no
MMC-3 first draft is available.

8.13   Reduced MultiMedia Command Set (RMC) {Project 1364-D} [Roberts]

Ron Roberts reported that the first draft of RMC will be available shortly
after the deadline for the next committee mailing.

8.14   SCSI Parallel Interface - 4 (SPI-4) {Project 1365-D} [Penokie]

George Penokie reported that the working group discussed some preliminary
proposals for SPI-4 (minutes in 99-200).  He stated that no SPI-4 draft will
be available before the September committee meeting.

9.     Old Business

9.1    Recommendation that NCITS withdraw X3.276:1997 SCSI-3 Controller
Commands

George Penokie moved that T10 recommend that NCITS withdraw X3.276:1997 SCSI-3
Controller Commands, X3.253:1995 SCSI-3 Parallel Interface & its Amendment
X3.292:1997, X3.292:1997 SCSI-3 Interlocked Protocol, and Fast-20 X3.277:1996.
Bill Galloway seconded the motion.  Larry Lamers asked how the action would
effect the ISO versions of the standards, and Gene Milligan said that ISO
activities should proceed separately but follow the committee's actions.

Dal Allan moved to divide the question.  Larry Lamers seconded the motion to
divide the question.  The motion to divide the question passed 25:0:9:12=46.

>From the divided motion, the motion on the floor was for T10 to recommend that
NCITS withdraw X3.276:1997 SCSI-3 Controller Commands.  Gene Milligan asked if
the mover would be willing to withdraw the motion.  George Penokie was
agreeable to withdrawing the motion, but Roger Cummings objected, and
discussion of the motion continued.

Gene Milligan asked that SCC not be withdrawn because products have been built
claiming compliance with SCC.  Bob Snively and Roger Cummings spoke in favor
of withdrawing SCC as SCC-2 would be sufficient.  Ed Gardner asked if SCC-2 is
a superset of SCC (which would mean that a product designed to SCC would meet
the requirements of SCC-2).  George Penokie (SCC and SCC-2 technical editor)
stated that SCC-2 is a superset of SCC.

On a roll call vote, the divided motion for T10 to recommend that NCITS
withdraw X3.276:1997 SCSI-3 Controller Commands passed 29:3:0:13=45.  Details
of the roll call vote were as follows.

Organization                Stat Name                    Yes No Abs NP

Adaptec, Inc.                P   Mr. Lawrence J. Lamers    1
AMP, Inc.                    A   Mr. Elwood Parsons        1
Amphenol Interconnect                                                 1
Ancot Corp.                  P   Mr. Bart Raudebaugh       1
Apple Computer               A   Mr. Ron Roberts           1
Berg Electronics                                                      1
BREA Technologies, Inc.      P   Mr. Bill Galloway         1
Circuit Assembly Corp.                                                1
CMD Technology               P   Mr. Edward Haske          1
Compaq Computer Corp.        P   Mr. Robert C. Elliott     1
Crossroads Systems, Inc.     P   Mr. Neil Wanamaker        1
Dallas Semiconductor         A   Mr. Michael Smith         1
Distributed Processing Tech. P   Mr. Roger Cummings        1
ENDL                         P   Mr. I. Dal Allan             1
Exabyte Corp.                P   Mr. Tom Jackson           1
Fujitsu (FCPA)               P   Mr. Ben-Koon Lin          1
Harting, Inc. of N. America                                           1
Hewlett Packard Co.          P   Mr. J. R. Sims            1

Hitachi Cable Manchester     A   Ms. Jacqueline Sylvia     1
Hitachi Storage Products     P   Mr. Anthony Yang                     1
Honda Connectors             P   Mr. Thomas J. Kulesza     1
IBM Corp.                    P   Mr. George O. Penokie     1
Iomega Corp.                                                          1
KnowledgeTek, Inc.           P   Mr. Dennis Moore          1
Lasercard Systems Corp.                                               1
Linfinity Micro              P   Mr. Louis Grantham        1
LSI Logic Corp.              P   Mr. John Lohmeyer         1
Madison Cable Corp.          P   Ms. Jie Fan               1
Maxtor Corp.                 P   Mr. Pete McLean           1
Molex Inc.                                                            1
Mylex Corp.                  P   Mr. Brian McKean          1
Ophidian Designs             P   Mr. Edward A. Gardner     1
Panasonic Technologies, Inc                                           1
Philips Electronics                                                   1
QLogic Corp.                                                          1
Quantum Corp.                P   Mr. Mark Evans            1
Seagate Technology           P   Mr. Gene Milligan            1
Silicon Systems, Inc.        P   Mr. Robert Morris            1
Storage Technology Corp.     P   Mr. Erich Oetting         1
Sun Microsystems Computer Co P   Mr. Robert N. Snively     1
Toshiba America Elec. Comp.  P   Mr. Tasuku Kasebayashi    1
UNISYS Corporation                                                    1
Unitrode Corporation         P   Mr. Paul D. Aloisi        1
Western Digital Corporation  P   Mr. Jeffrey L. Williams   1
Woven Electronics                                                     1

                                                          29  3   0  13 = 45

John Lohmeyer took an action item to notify NCITS that T10 recommends the
withdrawal X3.276:1997 SCSI-3 Controller Commands.

9.2    Recommendation that NCITS withdraw X3.253:1995 SCSI-3 Parallel
Interface & its Amendment

>From the divided motion in item 9.1, the motion on the floor was for T10 to
recommend that NCITS withdraw X3.253:1995 SCSI-3 Parallel Interface & its
Amendment.

Gene Milligan stated his preference that consideration of the standards be
postponed to their renewal date.

On a roll call vote, the divided motion for T10 to recommend that NCITS
withdraw X3.253:1995 SCSI-3 Parallel Interface & its Amendment passed
37:2:0:7=46.  Details of the roll call vote were as follows.

Organization                Stat Name                    Yes No Abs NP

Adaptec, Inc.                P   Mr. Lawrence J. Lamers    1
AMP, Inc.                    A   Mr. Elwood Parsons        1
Amphenol Interconnect        P   Mr. Bill Mable            1
Ancot Corp.                  P   Mr. Bart Raudebaugh       1
Apple Computer               A   Mr. Ron Roberts           1
Berg Electronics             P   Mr. Douglas Wagner        1
BREA Technologies, Inc.      P   Mr. Bill Galloway         1
Circuit Assembly Corp.       A   Mr. Dennis Lang           1
CMD Technology               P   Mr. Edward Haske          1
Compaq Computer Corp.        P   Mr. Robert C. Elliott     1
Crossroads Systems, Inc.     P   Mr. Neil Wanamaker        1
Dallas Semiconductor         A   Mr. Michael Smith         1
Distributed Processing Tech. P   Mr. Roger Cummings        1
ENDL                         P   Mr. I. Dal Allan          1
Exabyte Corp.                P   Mr. Tom Jackson           1
Fujitsu (FCPA)               P   Mr. Ben-Koon Lin          1
Harting, Inc. of N. America                                          1
Hewlett Packard Co.          P   Mr. J. R. Sims            1
Hitachi Cable Manchester     A   Ms. Jacqueline Sylvia     1
Hitachi Storage Products     P   Mr. Anthony Yang          1
Honda Connectors             P   Mr. Thomas J. Kulesza     1
IBM Corp.                    P   Mr. George O. Penokie     1
Iomega Corp.                                                         1

KnowledgeTek, Inc.           P   Mr. Dennis Moore          1
Lasercard Systems Corp.                                              1
Linfinity Micro              P   Mr. Louis Grantham        1
LSI Logic Corp.              P   Mr. John Lohmeyer         1
Madison Cable Corp.          P   Ms. Jie Fan               1
Maxtor Corp.                 P   Mr. Pete McLean           1
Methode Electronics, Inc.    A   Mr. John McKiness         1
Molex Inc.                   O   Mr. Martin Ogbuokiri      1
Mylex Corp.                  P   Mr. Brian McKean          1
Ophidian Designs             P   Mr. Edward A. Gardner     1
Panasonic Technologies, Inc                                          1
Philips Electronics                                                  1
QLogic Corp.                                                         1
Quantum Corp.                P   Mr. Mark Evans            1
Seagate Technology           P   Mr. Gene Milligan            1
Silicon Systems, Inc.        P   Mr. Robert Morris            1
Storage Technology Corp.     P   Mr. Erich Oetting         1
Sun Microsystems Computer Co P   Mr. Robert N. Snively     1
Toshiba America Elec. Comp.  P   Mr. Tasuku Kasebayashi    1
UNISYS Corporation                                                   1
Unitrode Corporation         P   Mr. Paul D. Aloisi        1
Western Digital Corporation  P   Mr. Jeffrey L. Williams   1
Woven Electronics            P   Mr. Doug Piper            1

                                                          37  2   0  7 = 46


John Lohmeyer took an action item to notify NCITS that T10 recommends the
withdrawal of X3.253:1995 SCSI-3 Parallel Interface & its Amendment.

Bob Snively moved that the SPI-3 editor be instructed to include the
dedication from SPI in SPI-3.  Dal Allan seconded the motion.  In the absence
of any objections, the motion passed unanimously.

John Lohmeyer and Larry Lamers took an action item to provide the SPI-3 editor
with the electronic information used to include the dedication in SPI.  George
Penokie took and action item to include the SPI dedication in SPI-3.

9.3    Recommendation that NCITS withdraw X3.292:1997 SCSI-3 Interlocked
Protocol

>From the divided motion in item 9.1, the motion on the floor was for T10 to
recommend that NCITS withdraw X3.292:1997 SCSI-3 Interlocked Protocol.

Gene Milligan stated his preference that consideration of the standards be
postponed to their renewal date.

On a roll call vote, the divided motion for T10 to recommend that NCITS
withdraw X3.292:1997 SCSI-3 Interlocked Protocol passed 37:2:0:7=46.  Details
of the roll call vote were the same as for agenda item 9.2.

John Lohmeyer took an action item to notify NCITS that T10 recommends the
withdrawal of X3.292:1997 SCSI-3 Interlocked Protocol.

9.4    Recommendation that NCITS withdraw X3.277:1996 Fast-20

The chair requested that the group consider withdrawing Fast-20 before SPI and
SIP.  George Penokie explained the need to keep SPI and SIP should Fast-20 be
kept, and noted that Fast-20 appeared to be the most likely of the three to be
kept.

>From the divided motion in item 9.1, the motion on the floor was for T10 to
recommend that NCITS withdraw X3.277:1996 Fast-20.

Gene Milligan stated his preference that consideration of the standards be
postponed to their renewal date.

Jie Fan noted that withdrawing Fast-20 will cause incompatibilities in the
cable requirements rendering cables specified in SPI-3 non-functional on
Fast-20, which she felt would be sufficient reason for not withdrawing
Fast-20.  Paul Aloisi and Ed Gardner reviewed SPI-2 and Fast-20 to compare
cable requirements.  Jie Fan agreed with Ed Gardner that the Fast-20 cable
requirements were carried into SPI-2 without changes.

On a roll call vote, the divided motion for T10 to recommend that NCITS
withdraw X3.277:1996 Fast-20 passed 37:2:0:7=46.  Details of the roll call
vote were the same as for agenda item 9.2.

John Lohmeyer took an action item to notify NCITS that T10 recommends the

withdrawal of X3.277:1996 Fast-20.

9.5    Cable Testing Requirements (99-111r3) [Daggett]

Paul Aloisi presented concerns regarding the cross talk requirements in
99-111r3 (see 99-215r0).  He noted that he will be attending the next cable
performance meeting to discuss these issues.

John Lohmeyer reported that the working group recommended acceptance of
99-111r3 on a vote of 18:1:1 but required that 98-219 be approved for
inclusion in SPI-3 before 99-111r3 can be incorporated.  98-219 proposes an
annex for SPI-3 whose content will be the testing procedures to be used when
verifying that the requirements in 99-111r3 are met.  Because 98-219 was not
yet approved for inclusion, John deferred consideration of this topic to the
September meeting.

9.6    Protection for the Asynchronous Information Phases (99-119r6) [Evans &
Leshay]

Mark Evans moved that 99-119r6 be approved for incorporation in SPI-3 as an
informative annex.  Bill Galloway seconded the motion.

Ralph Weber reported that the working group recommended inclusion of the
proposal on a vote of 6:4:10.

Mark noted that the method described in the proposal is being implemented and
stated the belief that documentation of the method in a public document would
be the best service to the industry.

George Penokie spoke against the motion, offering a demonstration of why the
proposal has little or no technical merit.

Dal Allan requested that wording such as `enhanced' be removed from the annex.
Mark Evans noted that further changes are possible after the proposal is
incorporated in SPI-3.

Ed Gardner asked why this is an informative annex not a normative-optional
annex.  Mark Evans stated that the informative annex was chosen to make the
proposal less objectionable to those who thought it lacked merit.

Rob Elliott stated that problems with early LVD implementations motivated
Compaq to develop and require this feature.  George Penokie noted that data
had been presented supporting the position that the proposed feature is not
substantially useful, and requested data to the contrary.  Rob Elliott stated
that Compaq was unable to present data favorable to the proposal.

Bill Galloway stated that, given the number of companies implementing the
proposal, it should be in the standard.  If everything that is not seen as
usable and productive by everybody were to be prohibited from inclusion in
standards, then other recently adopted proposals might not be in the standard.
George Penokie noted that most of the examples cited had shown technical merit
even if they failed to win any popularity contests, whereas this proposal has
not been accompanied by data showing technical merits.

Mark Evans moved to call the question.  Bill Galloway seconded the motion.

Larry Lamers and John Lohmeyer discussed the relationship the motion to the
two-week rule.  Larry asked that committee members be made aware that posting
to the web site does not constitute reflector notification of a document for
the purposes of the two-week rule.

The motion to call the question passed unanimously.  John Lohmeyer requested a
roll-call vote.

On a roll call vote, the motion to approve 99-119r6 be incorporation in SPI-3
as an informative annex passed 21:6:9:10=46.  The details of the roll call
vote are as follows:

Organization                Stat Name                    Yes No Abs  NP

Adaptec, Inc.                P   Mr. Lawrence J. Lamers    1
AMP, Inc.                    A   Mr. Elwood Parsons               1
Amphenol Interconnect                                                 1
Ancot Corp.                  P   Mr. Bart Raudebaugh              1
Apple Computer               A   Mr. Ron Roberts           1
Berg Electronics             P   Mr. Douglas Wagner        1
BREA Technologies, Inc.      P   Mr. Bill Galloway         1
Circuit Assembly Corp.       A   Mr. Dennis Lang           1
CMD Technology               P   Mr. Edward Haske          1
Compaq Computer Corp.        P   Mr. Robert C. Elliott     1

Crossroads Systems, Inc.     P   Mr. Neil Wanamaker               1
Dallas Semiconductor         A   Mr. Michael Smith                1
Distributed Processing Tech. P   Mr. Roger Cummings           1
ENDL                         P   Mr. I. Dal Allan          1
Exabyte Corp.                P   Mr. Tom Jackson                  1
Fujitsu (FCPA)               P   Mr. Ben-Koon Lin          1
Harting, Inc. of N. America                                           1
Hewlett Packard Co.          P   Mr. J. R. Sims            1
Hitachi Cable Manchester     A   Ms. Jacqueline Sylvia     1
Hitachi Storage Products     P   Mr. Anthony Yang          1
Honda Connectors                                                      1
IBM Corp.                    P   Mr. George O. Penokie        1
Iomega Corp.                                                          1
KnowledgeTek, Inc.           P   Mr. Dennis Moore          1
Lasercard Systems Corp.                                               1
Linfinity Micro              P   Mr. Louis Grantham        1
LSI Logic Corp.              P   Mr. John Lohmeyer         1
Madison Cable Corp.          P   Ms. Jie Fan                  1
Maxtor Corp.                 P   Mr. Pete McLean           1
Methode Electronics, Inc.                                             1
Molex Inc.                   A   Mr. Jay Neer                 1
Mylex Corp.                  P   Mr. Brian McKean          1
Ophidian Designs             P   Mr. Edward A. Gardner     1
Panasonic Technologies, Inc                                           1
Philips Electronics                                                   1
QLogic Corp.                                                          1
Quantum Corp.                P   Mr. Mark Evans            1
Seagate Technology           P   Mr. Gene Milligan         1
Silicon Systems, Inc.        P   Mr. Robert Morris            1
Storage Technology Corp.     P   Mr. Erich Oetting                1
Sun Microsystems Computer Co P   Mr. Robert N. Snively        1
Toshiba America Elec. Comp.  P   Mr. Tasuku Kasebayashi    1
UNISYS Corporation                                                    1
Unitrode Corporation         P   Mr. Paul D. Aloisi               1
Western Digital Corporation  P   Mr. Jeffrey L. Williams          1
Woven Electronics            A#  Mr. Harvey Waltersdorf           1

                                                          21  6   9  10 = 46

Bob Snively stated that his no vote was based on the belief that a properly
implemented system will not demonstrate any flaws that require this feature
and that the feature adds to system costs and complexity.  Roger Cummings
stated that his no vote was due to a lack of due diligence in the development
and review of this proposal; we haven't demonstrated that its benefits out
weigh its cost, and it should not appear in an informative annex.

9.7    Fairness Feature Control in SPI-3 (99-160r3) [Elliott/Houlder]

Ralph Weber reported that the working group recommended 99-160r3 for inclusion
in SPI-3 on a vote of 11:1:4.

Rob Elliott moved that 99-160r3 be approved for inclusion in SPI-3.  Bill
Galloway seconded the motion.  In the absence of any objections, the motion
passed unanimously.

Rob addressed concerns raised by Jeff Williams in the working group by stating
that an additional proposal will be brought to the September meeting that adds
the fairness counter principle that was dropped from 99-160r3.  It had been
dropped in the belief that a simpler proposal would have an easier time
gaining approval.

10.    New Business

10.1   Approval of MMC-2 Letter Ballot Comments Resolution and Forwarding to
NCITS for First Public Review (98-230r2) [Roberts]

Ron Roberts moved that the MMC-2 letter ballot comments resolution (99-230r3)
be approved as resolving the letter ballot comments and MMC-2 revision 11 be
forwarded to NCITS for processing towards first public review.  Bob Snively
seconded the motion.  The motion passed 32:0:0:14=46.

John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward MMC-2 revision 11 to NCITS for

processing toward first public review.  Ralph Weber took an action item to
add
an SPC-2 version descriptor for MMC-2 revision 11.

10.2   Actions on Working Group Recommendations

10.2.1 Asynchronous Information Protection (99-119r6) [Evans]

This item was covered as 9.6.

10.2.2 SPI-3 Table Restructuring (99-188r1) [Smith]

Ralph Weber reported that the working group recommended incorporation of
99-188r1 in SPI-3 on a vote of 7:2:0.

Gene Milligan and Paul Aloisi explained the proposal as resolving a conflict
between two tables in SPI-3 (and even in SPI-2).

Gene Milligan moved that 99-188r1 be approved for inclusion in SPI-3.  George
Penokie invoked the two-week rule regarding this proposal/motion.  Discussion
of this topic was deferred to the September meeting.

Gene Milligan objected to the ruling of the chair regarding the two-week rule
since he claimed it is in violation of the SD-2.  Gene requested that the
following excerpt of the SD-2 be read into the minutes: in 4.3.4 the SD-2
states, "Documents should be distributed at least two weeks prior to the
meeting.  Any documents sent later may be considered, but final action may
only be taken in the absence of objections by any voting member present;
otherwise they must be acted upon by letter ballot or deferred until the next
meeting."

John Lohmeyer referred Gene to the discussion of voting procedures earlier in
the meeting (see item 3.1).

10.2.3 SPI-3 Normal Arbitration Fairness Control in SPI-3 (99-160r3) [Elliott]

This item was covered as 9.7.

10.2.4 SPI-3 cable performance (99-111r3) [Ham]

This item was covered as 9.5.

10.2.5 Change CRC timing values (99-185r2) [Elliott]

Based on the unanimous approval of the working group, Rob Elliott moved that
99-185r2 be approved for incorporation in SPI-3.  Bill Galloway seconded the
motion.  In the absence of any objections, the motion passed.

10.2.6 Change in MSE High-Z Current Specification (99-187r2) [Lohmeyer]

Based on the unanimous approval of the working group, John Lohmeyer moved that
99-187r2 be approved for incorporation in SPI-3.  Gene Milligan seconded the
motion.  The motion passed on a vote of 31:0:1:14=46.

10.2.7 Release Glitch Management for QAS (99-191r1) [Moore]

Based on the unanimous approval of the working group, Skip Jones moved that
99-191r1 be approved for incorporation in SPI-3.  Gene Milligan seconded the
motion.  The motion passed on a vote of 32:0:1:13=46.

10.2.8 Packetized error handling changes (99-212r1) [Penokie]

Based on the unanimous approval of the working group, George Penokie moved
that 99-212r1 be approved for incorporation in SPI-3.  Bill Galloway seconded
the motion.  The motion passed on a vote of 32:0:1:13=46.

10.2.9 SPI-3 Timing Budget (99-127r8) [Aloisi]

Based on the unanimous approval of the working group, Paul Aloisi moved that
99-127r8 be approved for incorporation in SPI-3.  John Lohmeyer seconded the
motion.

Bill Galloway questioned the details of the timing diagram and the receiver
mask.  Paul explained the decisions taken by the May and July working groups
that lead to the content of the proposal.

The motion passed on a vote of 27:1:1:18=46.  Bill Galloway stated that his no
vote was based on an uncertainty that a glitch which goes to 30 mV is now
classified as `may be detected' when it formerly was classified as `shall not
be detected.'

10.2.10  ASC/ASCQ for CRC errors during DT transfer (99-210r1) [Williams]

Based on the unanimous approval of the working group, Jeff Williams moved that
99-210r1 be approved for incorporation in SPC-2.  George Penokie seconded the
motion.  The motion passed on a vote of 31:0:0:15=46.

10.2.11  ASCQ codes for ASC 5Dh (informational exceptions) (99-217r0)
[Elliott]

Based on the unanimous approval of the working group, Rob Elliott moved that
99-217r0 be approved for incorporation in SPC-2.  Jeff Williams seconded the
motion.

Bob Snively requested an explanation of how these codes aid in error

isolation.  Rob stated that it would improve the information provided to
users
and service personnel.  Gene Milligan stated that the codes can be used in the
processing of returned drives.

The motion passed on a vote of 29:0:2:15=46.

10.2.12  REPORT LUNS and small allocation lengths (99-197r0) [Elliott]

Based on the unanimous approval of the working group, Rob Elliott moved that
99-197r0 be approved for incorporation in SPC-2 and that the SPC-2 editor be
instructed to incorporate the editorial changes approved by the working group.
Bill Galloway seconded the motion.  The motion passed on a vote of
29:0:0:17=46.

10.2.13  Persistent Reservations Conflict Behavior (99-219r0) [Coughlan]

Tom Coughlan described an e-mail message questioning a conflict between a
table and the persistent reservations model text.  He then reviewed a proposal
to bring the table into compliance with the text.  Tom moved that 99-219r0 be
incorporated in SPC-2.  Bob Snively seconded the motion.  George Penokie
stated that since the text is correct, this change is considered
non-technical.  The motion passed on a vote of 26:0:0:20=46.

10.2.14  Register and Ignore Existing Key (99-199r0) [Coughlan]

Based on the unanimous approval of the working group, Tom Coughlan moved that
99-199r0 be approved for incorporation in SPC-2 and the SPC-2 editor be
instructed to incorporate the editorial changes approved by the working group.
Bill Galloway seconded the motion.  The motion passed on a vote of
27:0:0:19=46.

10.2.15  EXTENDED COPY command (99-163r2) [Weber]

Based on the unanimous approval of the working group, Ralph Weber moved that
99-163r2 (r1 as revised) be approved for incorporation in SPC-2.  Erich
Oetting seconded the motion.  In the absence of any objections, the motion
passed unanimously.

10.2.16  Application Client Log Page (99-180r1) [Houlder/Weber]

Based on the unanimous approval of the working group, Ralph Weber moved that
99-180r1 be approved for incorporation in SPC-2.  Gene Milligan seconded the
motion.  In the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously.

10.2.17  Domain Validation TR project proposal (99-214r1) [Lamers]

Based on the unanimous approval of the working group, Larry Lamers moved that
99-214r1 (r0 as revised) be forward to NCITS for processing as a project
proposal for a technical report on Domain Validation.  Paul Aloisi seconded
the motion.  The motion passed 30:0:0:16=46.

John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward 99-214r1 to NCITS for processing
as a project proposal for a technical report on Domain Validation.

10.3   Resolution of RBC public review comments (99-209r1, 99-198) [Roberts]

Based on the unanimous recommendation of the working group, Pete McLean moved
that RBC revision 10 be accepted as resolving the public review comments and
that 99-209r1 be accepted as the comments resolution document and that the
project editor be instructed to prepare RBC revision 10a incorporating the
ANSI pre-edit for forwarding to second public review.  Ralph Weber seconded
the motion.  The motion passed 33:0:0:13=46.

Ron Roberts took an action item to prepare RBC revision 10a incorporating the
ANSI pre-edit for forwarding to second public review.  John Lohmeyer took an
action item to forward RBC revision 10a to second public review.  John
Lohmeyer took an action item send a letter to Ralph Weber formally responding
to his public review comments.

10.4   Resolution of SSC letter ballot comments (99-011r1) [Peterson]

Neil Wanamaker reported that resolution of SSC letter ballot comments has not
been completed.  Action on this topic was deferred to the September meeting.

10.5   Consideration of motion to stabilize SPI-3 revision 7

Gene Milligan moved to table consideration of the motion to stabilize SPI-3
revision 7.  Bob Snively seconded the motion.  The motion to table passed
9:6:12:19=46.  Pete McLean requested that the minutes note that a roll call
vote had been requested on the motion to stabilize SPI-3 revision 7 so that a

roll call vote would be taken whenever the motion is removed from the table.

10.6   Results of Letter Ballot on forwarding SSC to First Public Review
(99-011r2) [Lohmeyer]

John Lohmeyer reported that the letter ballot to forward SSC to first public
review passed on a vote of 42:3:0:2=47 (see 99-011r2 for complete details).

10.7   Persistent Reservations [Milligan]

Gene Milligan informed the committee of a problem with the `persist across
power cycle' capability in persistent reservations that can render a drive
inoperative.  He stated that a proposal for changes will be presented to the
September working group.

11.    ISO

11.1   ISO Report [Milligan]

Gene Milligan gave an oral report and provided an electronic report in
document T10/99-216r0.

11.2   ISO Business [Milligan]

11.2.1 Approve DIS 14776-342 SCC-2 as presented

Gene Milligan moved that T10 approve DIS 14776-342 (SCC-2) as presented.
George Penokie seconded the motion.  Gene noted that the DIS is not yet
available for approval, but that given the timing of the T10 meetings the
opportunity to approve the DIS will likely expire before the September
meeting.

On a roll call vote, the motion passed 24:2:0:20=46.  The details of the roll
call vote are as follows:

Organization                Stat Name                    Yes No Abs NP

Adaptec, Inc.                P   Mr. Lawrence J. Lamers    1
AMP, Inc.                                                            1
Amphenol Interconnect                                                1
Ancot Corp.                  P   Mr. Bart Raudebaugh       1
Apple Computer               A   Mr. Ron Roberts           1
Berg Electronics                                                     1
BREA Technologies, Inc.                                              1
Circuit Assembly Corp.                                               1
CMD Technology               P   Mr. Edward Haske          1
Compaq Computer Corp.        P   Mr. Robert C. Elliott     1
Crossroads Systems, Inc.     P   Mr. Neil Wanamaker        1
Dallas Semiconductor                                                 1
Distributed Processing Tech. P   Mr. Roger Cummings        1
ENDL                         P   Mr. I. Dal Allan            1
Exabyte Corp.                P   Mr. Tom Jackson           1
Fujitsu (FCPA)                                                       1
Harting, Inc. of N. America                                          1
Hewlett Packard Co.          P   Mr. J. R. Sims            1
Hitachi Cable Manchester     A   Ms. Jacqueline Sylvia     1
Hitachi Storage Products                                             1
Honda Connectors                                                     1
IBM Corp.                    P   Mr. George O. Penokie     1
Iomega Corp.                                                         1
KnowledgeTek, Inc.                                                   1
Lasercard Systems Corp.                                              1
Linfinity Micro                                                      1
LSI Logic Corp.              P   Mr. John Lohmeyer         1
Madison Cable Corp.                                                  1
Maxtor Corp.                 P   Mr. Pete McLean           1
Methode Electronics, Inc.                                            1
Molex Inc.                   O   Mr. Martin Ogbuokiri      1
Mylex Corp.                  P   Mr. Brian McKean          1
Ophidian Designs             P   Mr. Edward A. Gardner        1
Panasonic Technologies, Inc                                          1
Philips Electronics                                                  1
QLogic Corp.                 P   Mr. Skip Jones            1
Quantum Corp.                A   Mr. Patrick McGarrah      1
Seagate Technology           P   Mr. Gene Milligan         1
Silicon Systems, Inc.        A   Mr. Stephen G. Finch      1
Storage Technology Corp.     P   Mr. Erich Oetting         1
Sun Microsystems Computer Co P   Mr. Robert N. Snively     1

Toshiba America Elec. Comp.  P   Mr. Tasuku Kasebayashi    1
UNISYS Corporation                                                   1
Unitrode Corporation         P   Mr. Paul D. Aloisi        1
Western Digital Corporation  P   Mr. Jeffrey L. Williams   1
Woven Electronics                                                    1

                                                          24  2   0 20 = 46

Dal Allan stated that his no vote was based on his opinion that ISO rubber
stamping of T10 work has no value.

Gene Milligan took an action item to handle the international approval of DIS
14776-342 (SCC-2) as presented.

11.2.2 Recommend withdrawal of the SIP project

Gene Milligan moved that T10 recommend withdrawal the SIP ISO project.  George
Penokie seconded the motion.

On a roll call vote, the motion passed 24:2:0:20=46.  The details of the roll
call vote were the same as under agenda item 11.2.1.

Dal Allan stated that his no vote was based on his opinion that ISO rubber
stamping of T10 work has no value.

Gene Milligan took an action item to process the international withdrawal of
the SIP project.

11.2.3 Recommend Fast Track of NCITS.325:1998 SBP-2

Gene Milligan moved that T10 recommend fast track of NCITS.325:1998 (SBP-2).
Steve Finch seconded the motion.

On a roll call vote, the motion passed 24:2:0:20=46.  The details of the roll
call vote were the same as under agenda item 11.2.1.

Dal Allan stated that his no vote was based on his opinion that ISO rubber
stamping of T10 work has no value.

Gene Milligan took an action item to initiate fast track processing of
NCITS:325:1998 (SBP-2).

11.2.4 MMC-2 NWI and CD

Ron Roberts moved that T10 instruct the IR to create a NWI and CD contribution
for MMC-2.  Gene Milligan seconded the motion.

On a roll call vote, the motion passed 24:2:0:20=46.  The details of the roll
call vote were the same as under agenda item 11.2.1.

Dal Allan stated that his no vote was based on his opinion that ISO rubber
stamping of T10 work has no value.

Gene Milligan took an action item to create an NWI and CD contribution for
MMC-2.

12.    Liaison Reports

12.1   T11 Liaison Report [Wanamaker]

The T11 liaison report was provided to the committee electronically as
99-221r0.  Neil Wanamaker presented the report to the committee.

12.2   T13 Liaison Report [Milligan]

Gene Milligan reported that the most recent T13 meeting was in Irvine, CA and
the next meeting will be in Bolder, CO.  He requested that T10 pay attention
the T13 EDD version 3 enhanced BIOS project.  Pete McLean reported that the
content of ATAPI-5 is technically complete and asked interested persons review
it.

12.3   SFF Industry Group [Allan]

Dal Allan provided the following electronic report for the minutes:

The HSS (High Speed Serial) Testing specification for copper cables is ready
for balloting and a round of testing is scheduled at DG Clariion on July 27.

Preliminary effort has begun on the HSS (High Speed Serial) Testing
specification for optical cables.

It had been thought the issues on HSSDC (High Speed Serial Data Connector)
were resolved but the IEC draft is not a close companion of SFF-8420. A SSWG
will be held in Harrisburg on July 26 to harmonize the two.

The proposal for an 80-pin Fibre Channel SCA-2 tape connector has been
accepted and will be incorporated into SFF-8072. The difference in pinouts
with 80-pin SCSI will not cause damage to either kind of device, but the Mated
condition cannot be set if a Fibre Channel device is inserted into a SCSI slot
or vice-versa.

12.4   IEEE 1394 [Johansson]

Gene Milligan reported that Peter Johansson was taking steps to fast track
IEEE 1394 though SC 26.

12.5   IEEE P1285 Status

No report.

12.6   SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Jones/Aloisi]

The STA liaison report was provided to the committee electronically as
99-222r0.  Paul Aloisi presented the report to the committee.

13.    Review of Action Items

312)   Ralph Weber will review editorially the second sentence of item c in

clause 5.3.2.5.3.
313)   John Lohmeyer will arrange a meeting to discuss changes and updates in
the T10 procedures.
319)   Gene Milligan will submit a NWIP and a CD contribution for RBC to
ISO/IEC for consideration.
321)   Ron Roberts will prepare RBC revision 10a incorporating the ANSI
pre-edit for forwarding to second public review.
322)   John Lohmeyer will forward RBC revision 10a to second public review.
323)   John Lohmeyer will send a letter to Ralph Weber formally responding to
his RBC public review comments.
324)   John Lohmeyer will notify NCITS that T10 recommends the withdrawal
X3.276:1997 SCSI-3 Controller Commands.
325)   John Lohmeyer will notify NCITS that T10 recommends the withdrawal of
X3.253:1995 SCSI-3 Parallel Interface & its Amendment.
326)   John Lohmeyer will notify NCITS that T10 recommends the withdrawal of
X3.292:1997 SCSI-3 Interlocked Protocol.
327)   John Lohmeyer will notify NCITS that T10 recommends the withdrawal of
X3.277:1996 Fast-20.
328)   John Lohmeyer and Larry Lamers will provide the SPI-3 editor with the
electronic information used to include the dedication in SPI.
329)   George Penokie will include the SPI dedication in SPI-3.
330)   John Lohmeyer will forward MMC-2 revision 11 to NCITS for processing
toward first public review.
331)   John Lohmeyer will forward 99-214r1 to NCITS for processing as a
project proposal for a technical report on Domain Validation.
332)   Gene Milligan will handle the international approval of DIS 14776-342
(SCC-2) as presented.
333)   Gene Milligan will process the international withdrawal of the SIP
project.
334)   Gene Milligan will initiate fast track processing of NCITS:325:1998
(SBP-2).
335)   Gene Milligan will create an NWI and CD contribution for MMC-2 revision
11.
336)   Ron Roberts will give RBC revision 10a to the IR in source and PDF
format.
337)   Ron Roberts will give MMC-2 revision 11 to the IR in source and PDF
format.
338)   Larry will request minutes for the June CAM-3 review meeting from Bill
Dallas.
339)   Ralph Weber will add an SPC-2 version descriptor for MMC-2 revision 11.
340)   Ralph Weber will add an SPC-2 version descriptor for RBC revision 10a.

14.    Meeting Schedule

The next plenary meeting of T10 will be September 16, 1999 in Huntington
Beach, CA at the Hilton Waterfront Hotel (714-960-7873), hosted by QLogic.
The meeting will begin at 9:00 a.m. on Thursday.

The meeting list for the next plenary week is:

                               September '99 Meeting Map
                                   (7/15/99 Version)

Monday 9/13        9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9
                   +===============+===================+
                   | T10 Proc. SG  | SPI-3/SPI-4 WG    |              (50)
                   +---------------+===================+-----------+
                   | T11.3 FC-AL-3                                 |  (40)
                   +-----------------------------------+-----------+
                   | Mt. Fuji - 4 WG                   |              (20)
                   +-----------------------------------+

Tuesday 9/14       9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9
                   +===================================+
                   | SPI-3/SPI-4 WG                    |              (50)
                   +===================================+
                   | MMC-2 WG                          |              (20)
                   +===================================+
                   | SSC/FCP-2 Tape joint WG           |              (40)
                   +===================================+

Wednesday 9/15     9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9
                   +=======================================+
                   | SCSI WG                               |          (50)
                   +===================================+===+
                   | MMC-2 WG                          |              (20)
                   +=======================+=======+===+===+

                   | T11 FC-VI             |SFF WG | SFF   |          (40)
                   +-----------------------+-------+-------+-------+
                                      Qlogic Reception --> | Party |  (All)
                                                           +-------+

Thursday 9/16      9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
                   +=====================+-----------------+
                   | T10 Plenary         / STA Tech (*)    |          (60/40)
                   +===========+========+------+-----------+
                               | STA Marcom    |                      (15)
                               +---------------+

 (*) - STA Technical meeting (includes SCSI Harbor) begins 30 minutes
       after the T10 plenary meeting but not before 2:30 pm

Friday 9/17    8   9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5
                 +-----------------------------+
                 | SCSI Trade Association (STA)|                      (30)
                 +-----------------------------+
    Meetings marked with == are T10-authorized meetings.
    Meetings marked with -- are authorized by other groups and may change
    without notice.

Other T10-authorized meetings:
Meeting         Date                Location / Contact
--------------  ------------------  --------------------------------------
Cable Perf. SG  7/28/99 Wed.        Manchester, NH / Zane Daggett
Interconnect    7/29/99 Thur.       Manchester, NH / Zane Daggett
Modeling SG
SPI-3 Edit      8/2/99 Mon.         Rochester, MN / T11
FCP-2, SSC,     8/4/99 Wed.         Rochester, MN / T11
FC-Tape
Cable Perf. SG  8/31/99 Tue.        Colorado Springs, CO / Larry Barnes
Interconnect    9/01/99 Wed.        Colorado Springs, CO / Larry Barnes
Modeling SG
Cable Perf. SG  9/28/99 Wed.        Chicago, IL / Martin Ogbuokiri
Interconnect    9/29/99 Thur.       Chicago, IL / Martin Ogbuokiri
Modeling SG


 Meeting Map Abbreviation Key:
Amnd:        Amendment
Cable Perf.: Cable Performance Testing
CAM:         Common Access Method
CAM-3:       Next generation CAM for SCSI-3
EPI:         SCSI Enhanced Parallel Interface (Technical Report)
Encl Profile Enclosure Profile Study Group
Fast-20:     Data Transfer at 20 Mega-transfers/second (a.k.a., Ultra)
Fast-40:     Data Transfer at 40 Mega-transfers/second (a.k.a., Ultra2)
Fast-80:     Data Transfer at 80 Mega-transfers/second (a.k.a., Ultra3)
FC:          Fibre Channel
FC-AL:       Fibre Channel - Arbitrated Loop (a T11 project)
FCLC:        Fibre Channel Loop Community (not an NCITS activity)
I/F:         Interface
HAP:         High Availability Profile (Technical Report)
LB:          Letter Ballot
MMC-2:       Multimedia Commands - 2 (CD-ROM, DVD, etc.)
PH:          Physical (Connectors, Cables, Transceivers, etc.)
Plenary:     Full Committee Meeting
RAID:        Redundant Array of Independent Devices
RBC:         Reduced Block Commands
SBC:         SCSI-3 Block Commands
SBP-2:       Serial Bus Protocol for IEEE 1394 (2nd generation protocol)
SCC-2:       SCSI Controller Commands - 2 (2nd generation RAID command set)
SCSI:        Small Computer System Interface
SES:         SCSI Enclosure Services
SCSI Harbor: A STA project on defining a wrapper for SCSI devices
SFF:         SFF Industry Group (not an NCITS activity)
SG:          Study Group
SMC:         SCSI-3 Medium Changer Commands
SPC-2:       SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (2nd generation)
SPI-2:       Second Generation SCSI Parallel Interface
SPI-3:       Third Generation SCSI Parallel Interface
SSA:         Serial Storage Interface
SSC:         SCSI-3 Stream Commands (includes Tape)
SSWGs:       Specific-Subject Working Groups
STA:         SCSI Trade Association (not an NCITS activity)
STA Tech:    STA Technical Meeting (T10 members invited)
T10:         Lower Level Interfaces Technical Committee
T10 Proc.:   T10 Procedures
WG:          Working Group (same as Ad Hoc Group)


For more information about T10 activities, please contact the following

people:

Activity                     Contact         Telephone/Email
---------------------------- --------------- ------------------------------
CAM-3                        Bill Dallas     (603) 881-2508
                                             dallas at zk3.dec.com
EPI                          Bill Ham        (508) 841-2629
                                             bill.ham at digital.com
FCP, FCP-2, SES              Robert Snively  (415) 336-5332
                                             Bob.Snively at eng.sun.com
GPP                          Gary Stephens   (602) 321-1725
                                             grsfsi at aol.com
SBC                          Gene Milligan   (405) 324-3070
                                             gene_milligan at notes.seagate.com
MMC, MMC-2, MMC-3, RMC       Ron Roberts     (916) 677-5714
                                             rkroberts at aol.com
SBP-2 or RBC                 Pete McLean     (303) 678-2149
                                             pete_mclean at maxtor.com
SBP-2                        Peter Johansson (510) 527-3926
                                             pjohansson at aol.com
SCC-2, SPI-2, SPI-3, SPI-4   George Penokie  (507) 253-5208
                                             gop at us.ibm.com
SMC                          Erich Oetting   (303) 673-2178
                                             Erich_Oetting at Stortek.com
SPC, SPC-2, SAM-2            Ralph Weber     (972) 503-3205 x228
                                             roweber at acm.org
SSA-PH1,-PH2,-TL1,-TL2       Larry Lamers    (408) 957-7817
                                             ljlamers at ix.netcom.com
SSA-S2P & -S3P               John Scheible   (512) 823-8208
                                             Scheible at vnet.ibm.com
SSC                          Dave Peterson   (612) 391-1008
                                             dap at network.com
Other Activities             John Lohmeyer   (719) 533-7560
                                             lohmeyer at ix.netcom.com


The long-term T10 meeting week schedule is:

Date                Location                   Host/Comments
------------------  -------------------------  -----------------------------
Sep 13-17, 1999     Huntington Beach, CA       QLogic
Nov  1-5,  1999     Monterey, CA               Adaptec / dates changed
Jan 10-14, 2000     Brisbane, Australia        ENDL Pacific Technologies
Mar  6-10, 2000     Dallas, TX                 Unitrode
May 15-19, 2000     Nashua, NH                 Hitachi Cable / dates changed
Jul 10-14, 2000     Colorado Springs, CO       LSI Logic
Sep 11-15, 2000     Huntington Beach, CA       QLogic
Oct 30-Nov 3, 2000  Monterey, CA               Adaptec / dates changed
Jan 15-19, 2001     (open)
Mar   5-9, 2001     Dallas, TX                 Unitrode {tentative}
May  7-11, 2001     Manchester, NH             Hitachi Cable
Jul 16-20, 2001     Colorado Springs, CO       LSI Logic
Sep 10-14, 2001     Huntington Beach, CA       QLogic
Nov   5-9, 2001     Monterey, CA               Adaptec

Jeff Williams move that T10 approve the hosts and locations for the March
through November, 2001 meetings.  John Lohmeyer seconded the motion.  The
motion passed 23:0:0:23=46.

Gene Milligan moved that the May, 2000 meeting be moved to 15-19 May.  Jeff
Williams seconded the motion.  The motion passed 23:1:2.

Dal Allan requested that meeting room arrangements for the Brisbane meeting be
completed during the September T10 meeting week.

14.1     Authorization of Working Group Meetings

John noted that the working group meetings are required to operate under the
same voting procedures as does T10 (that is, one vote per organization) and
the results of a working group are not binding on the parent committee.  Ad
hoc groups should strive to achieve consensus prior to bringing issues to T10.

Erich Oetting moved that T10 authorize the T10-related meetings and events in
the list above.  Jeff Williams seconded the motion.  The motion passed

26:0:1:19=46.

15.    Adjournment

The meeting was adjourned at 2:22 p.m. on Thursday July 15, 1999.

Enclosure(1) -- Meeting Attendees

         Name          S        Organization         Electronic Mail Address
---------------------- -- ------------------------- -------------------------
Mr. Lawrence J. Lamers P  Adaptec, Inc.             ljlamers at ieee.org
Mr. Robert Frey        P  Advansys                  bobf at advansys.com
Mr. Elwood Parsons     A  AMP, Inc.                 etparson at amp.com
Mr. Bill Mable         P  Amphenol Interconnect     bmable at spectra.net
Mr. Bart Raudebaugh    P  Ancot Corp.               bart at ancot.com
Mr. Gregg Neely        P  Andataco                  greggn at andataco.com
Mr. Ron Roberts        A  Apple Computer            rkroberts at aol.com
Mr. Douglas Wagner     P  Berg Electronics          wagnerdl at bergelect.com
Mr. Bill Galloway      P  BREA Technologies, Inc.   billg at breatech.com
Mr. Dennis Lang        A  Circuit Assembly Corp.    dennisl at circuitassembly.
                                                    com
Mr. Edward Haske       P  CMD Technology            haske at cmd.com
Mr. Robert C. Elliott  P  Compaq Computer Corp.     Robert.Elliott at compaq.com
Mr. Neil Wanamaker     P  Crossroads Systems, Inc.  ntw at crossroads.com
Mr. Stephen K. Wilson  A  Crossroads Systems, Inc.  steve at crossroads.com
Mr. Michael Smith      A  Dallas Semiconductor      mike.smith at dalsemi.com
Mr. Ricardo Dominguez  O  Dell Computer             ricardo_dominguez at dell.
                                                    com
Mr. Keith W. Parker    V  Diogenes SCSI             diogenes at europa.com
Mr. Roger Cummings     P  Distributed Processing    cummings_roger at dpt.com
                          Tech.
Mr. I. Dal Allan       P  ENDL                      endlcom at ibm.net
Mr. Tom Jackson        P  Exabyte Corp.             thomasj at exabyte.com
Mr. Eugene Lew         A  Fujitsu                   elew at fcpa.fujitsu.com
Mr. Ben-Koon Lin       P  Fujitsu (FCPA)            blin at fcpa.fujitsu.com
Mr. Tim Mackley        A  General Dynamics          timothy.a.mackley at gd-is.
                                                    com
Mr. J. R. Sims         P  Hewlett Packard Co.       robsims at hootie.lvld.hp.
                                                    com
Ms. Jacqueline Sylvia  A  Hitachi Cable Manchester  jsylvia at hcm.hitachi.com
Mr. Anthony Yang       P  Hitachi Storage Products  anthony.yang at hal.hitachi.
                                                    com
Mr. Thomas J. Kulesza  P  Honda Connectors          tkulesza at hondaconnectors.
                                                    com
Mr. George O. Penokie  P  IBM Corp.                 gop at us.ibm.com
Mr. Dan Colegrove      A# IBM Corp.                 colegrov at us.ibm.com
Mr. Dennis Moore       P  KnowledgeTek, Inc.        dmoore at ix.netcom.com
Mr. Louis Grantham     P  Linfinity Micro           lgrantham at linfinity.com
Mr. John Lohmeyer      P  LSI Logic Corp.           lohmeyer at ix.netcom.com
Mr. Ralph O. Weber     A  LSI Logic Corp.           roweber at acm.org
Mr. Barry Caldwell     V  LSI Logic Corp.           barry.caldwell at lsil.com
Ms. Jie Fan            P  Madison Cable Corp.       jfan at madisoncable.com
Mr. Pete McLean        P  Maxtor Corp.              pete_mclean at maxtor.com
Mr. John McKiness      A  Methode Electronics, Inc. johnmck at methode.com
Mr. Jay Neer           A  Molex Inc.                jneer at molex.com
Mr. Martin Ogbuokiri   O  Molex Inc.                mogbuokiri at molex.com
Mr. Brian McKean       P  Mylex Corp.               brianm at mylexboulder.com
Mr. Edward A. Gardner  P  Ophidian Designs          eag at ophidian.com
Mr. Han Zou            P  Panasonic Technologies,   hanzou at research.
                          Inc                       panasonic.com
Mr. Skip Jones         P  QLogic Corp.              sk_jones at qlc.com
Mr. Mark Evans         P  Quantum Corp.             mark.evans at quantum.com
Mr. Patrick McGarrah   A  Quantum Corp.             pat.mcgarrah at quantum.com
Mr. Gene Milligan      P  Seagate Technology        Gene_Milligan at notes.

                                                    seagate.com
Mr. Robert Morris      P  Silicon Systems, Inc.     bob.morris at ti.com
Mr. Stephen G. Finch   A  Silicon Systems, Inc.     steve.finch at tus.ssi1.com
Mr. Paresh Sheth       V  SPG / TI                  paresh.sheth at ti.com
Mr. Jeffrey Schroeder  O  ST Microelectronics       jeffrey.schroeder at st.com
Mr. Erich Oetting      P  Storage Technology Corp.  erich_oetting at stortek.com
Mr. Robert N. Snively  P  Sun Microsystems          bob.snively at sun.com
                          Computer Co
Mr. Tasuku Kasebayashi P  Toshiba America Elec.     task.kasebayashi at taec.
                          Comp.                     toshiba.com
Mr. Bruce Pearman      V  Trimm Technologies        bpearman at trimm.com
Mr. Paul D. Aloisi     P  Unitrode Corporation      aloisi at unitrode.com
Mr. Donald R. Getty    A  Unitrode Corporation      gettd at unitrode.com
Mr. Jeffrey L.         P  Western Digital           Jeffrey.L.Williams at wdc.
Williams                  Corporation               com
Mr. Doug Piper         P  Woven Electronics         doug.piper@
                                                    wovenelectronics.com
Mr. Harvey Waltersdorf A# Woven Electronics         harvey.waltersdorf@
                                                    wovenelectronics.com

59 People Present

Status Key:  P    -  Principal
             A,A# -  Alternate
             O    -  Observer
             L    -  Liaison
             V    -  Visitor

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