Draft Minutes of T10 Plenary Meeting #20 - 3/13/97

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Minutes of T10 Plenary Meeting #20 in San Diego, CA            T10/97-139r0

Accredited Standards Committee*
National Committee for Information Technology Standards (NCITS)

                                                    Doc. No.: T10/97-139r0
                                                        Date: March 18, 1997
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                                                    Reply to: John Lohmeyer

To:               Membership of T10

From:             Ralph Weber, Secretary T10
                  John Lohmeyer, Chair T10

Subject:          Minutes of T10 Plenary Meeting #20
                  San Diego, CA -- March 13, 1997

                                  Agenda

1. Opening Remarks

2. Approval of Agenda

3. Attendance and Membership

4. Approval of Minutes - January Meeting Dallas, TX (T10/97-112r1)

5. Document Distribution

6. Call for Patents

7. Review of Old Action Items

8. Subgroup and/or Project Status Reports
   8.1 Project Status Summary and NCITS/OMC Liaison [Lohmeyer]
   8.2 T10.1 Task Group Report [Lamers]
   8.3 SPI Amendment (SPIAmnd) {Project 0855-D} [Johansson/Lamers]
   8.4 SCSI-3 Interlocked Protocol (SIP) Status {Project 856-D} [Penokie]
   8.5 SCSI Common Access Method -3 (CAM-3) Status {Project 990-D} [Dallas]
   8.6 SCSI-3 Serial Bus Protocol (SBP) Status {Project 992-D} [Roberts]
   8.7 SCSI-3 Primary Commands (SPC) Status {Project 995-D} [Weber]
   8.8 SCSI-3 Block Commands (SBC) Status {Project 996-D} [Milligan]
   8.9 SCSI-3 Stream Commands (SSC) Status {Project 997-D} [Lappin]
   8.10 SCSI-3 Medium Changer Commands (SMC) Status {Project 999-D} [Oetting]
   8.11 SCSI-3 Controller Commands (SCC) Status {Project 1047-D} [Penokie]
   8.12 Multimedia Command Set (MMC) Status {Project 1048-D} [Roberts]
   8.13 SCSI Parallel Interface - 2 (SPI-2) {Project 1142-D} [Ham]
   8.14 SCSI Enhanced Parallel Interface (EPI) Technical Report {Project 1143-
      D} [Ham]
   8.15 SCSI Fibre Channel Protocol - 2 (FCP-2) {Project 1144-D} [Snively]
   8.16 Boot Considerations Technical Report {Project 1154-DT}  [Lamers]
   8.17 Serial Bus Protocol - 2 (SBP-2) {Project 1155-D} [Johansson]
   8.18 SCSI Architecture Model - 2 (SAM-2) {Project 1157-D} [Monia]
   8.19 SCSI-3 Enclosure Commands (SES) {Project 1212-D} [Snively]
   8.20 High Availability Profile (HAP) Technical Report {Project 1224-DT}
      [Hagerman]
   8.21 SCSI Controller Commands - 2 (SCC-2) {Project 1225-D} [Penokie]
   8.22 Multimedia Command Set - 2 (MMC-2) Status {Project 1228-D} [Roberts]
   8.23 SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (SPC-2) Status {Project 1236-D} [Weber]
   8.24 SCSI-3 Transport over SBP-2 Status (STS) {Project xxxx-D} [Johansson]

9. Old Business
   9.1 READ ELEMENT STATUS and Reservation Conflicts (96-267r2)
      [Basham/Oetting]

10. New Business
   10.1 Results of letter ballots (96-046 -- -048) on forwarding SSA documents
      to 1PR
   10.2 Actions on Working Group Recommendations
      10.2.1 Changes to Stabilized Clauses in SBP-2 [Johansson]
      10.2.2 Project Proposal for SCSI Socket/SSL Services (SSS) (97-129r2)
         [Parker/Lohmeyer]
      10.2.3 Non-substantive SPC Changes [Weber]
      10.2.4 Add Mode Page for Fibre Channel features (96-195r4) [Houlder]
      10.2.5 World Wide Names (97-101r2) [Snively]
      10.2.6 Proposed change in Qerr=1 Behavior in SPC-2 (96-277r2) [Weber]
      10.2.7 SIP Message Issues (97-141r2) [Penokie]
      10.2.8 Additional Device Types for ASC/ASCQ (97-140r0) [Penokie]
      10.2.9 RESERVE/RELEASE Issues (97-142r1) [Penokie]
      10.2.10 Logical Unit Response to Transceiver Mode Changes (96-270r2)
         [Penokie]
      10.2.11 SMC Device IDs (97-148r1) [Oetting]
   10.3 Deletion of SCAM from SPI-2 and HAP [Milligan]
   10.4 Recommendation to Withdraw ANSI X3.268 (SBP) [Johansson]

11. ISO
   11.1 ISO Report [Milligan]
   11.2 ISO Business [Milligan]

12. Liaison Reports
   12.1 T11 Liaison Report [Cummings]
   12.2 T13 Liaison Report [Milligan]
   12.3 SFF Industry Group [Allan]
   12.4 IEEE 1394 [Johansson]
   12.5 IEEE P1285 Status
   12.6 IEEE P1596.8 Status
   12.7 SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Jones/Grantham]

13. Review of Action Items

14. Meeting Schedule
   14.1 Authorization of Working Group Meetings

15. Adjournment

                              Results of Meeting

1.    Opening Remarks

John Lohmeyer, the T10 Chair, called the meeting to order at 1:00 p.m.,
Thursday March 13, 1997.  He thanked Skip Jones of QLogic for hosting the
meeting.

Since the last meeting, X3 has changed its name to the National Committee for
Information Technology Standards (NCITS, pronounced `insights').  `X3T10' is
now just `T10'.  NCITS standards will still carry the X3.nnn labels.

John said that NCITS Subgroup Membership forms and the T10 Mailing
Subscription form were available from Larry Lamers or himself at the head
table.  He said that people should use the NCITS forms to insure the NCITS
Secretariat has the latest membership information.  These forms should be
mailed directly to the NCITS Secretariat.

As is customary, the people attending introduced themselves and a copy of the
attendance list was circulated.  Copies of the draft agenda and general
information on T10 were made available to those attending.

2.    Approval of Agenda

The draft agenda was approved with the following additions:

      10.2.1 Changes to Stabilized Clauses in SBP-2 [Johansson]
      10.2.2 Project Proposal for SCSI Socket/SSL Services (SSS) (97-129r2)
      [Parker/Lohmeyer]
      10.2.3 Non-substantive SPC Changes [Weber]
      10.2.4 Add Mode Page for Fibre Channel features (96-195r4) [Houlder]
      10.2.5 World Wide Names (97-101r2) [Snively]
      10.2.6 Proposed change in Qerr=1 Behavior in SPC-2 (96-277r2) [Weber]
      10.2.7 SIP Message Issues (97-141r0) [Penokie]
      10.2.8 Additional Device Types for ASC/ASCQ (97-140r0) [Penokie]
      10.2.9 RESERVE/RELEASE Issues (97-142r1) [Penokie]
      10.2.10     Logical Unit Response to Transceiver Mode Changes (96-270r2)
         [Penokie]
      10.2.11 SMC Device IDs (97-148r1) [Oetting]
      11.2 ISO Business [Milligan]

3.    Attendance and Membership

The membership requirements were reviewed.  NCITS rules permit one vote per
organization.  An individual from a new organization must attend two out of
three consecutive plenary meetings.  He/she may apply for voting membership
the second meeting via a letter to the Chair of T10.  The individual may vote
at the second plenary meeting.  Working group meetings do not count toward
attendance requirements.

Organizations must also pay the NCITS Service Fee ($300) to maintain
membership.  The ANSI International Program Fee (also $300) is billed at the
same time.

The Chair said he had sent letters to 18 people from 8 organizations informing
them that their membership was in jeopardy due to non-attendance (see 97-
003r0) and that their membership would be terminated if they did not attend
this meeting.  The organizations in jeopardy were:  Ancot Corp.; Circuit
Assembly Corp.; Honda Connectors; Oak Technology, Inc.; Panasonic
Technologies, Inc; Silicon Systems, Inc.; Sony Electronics, Inc.; and SyQuest
Technology, Inc.

Ian Morrell noted that he had attended the November '96 meeting for Circuit
Assembly Corp.  and hence they should not have been in jeopardy.  All of the
other organizations except Panasonic Technologies were present.  They were
terminated (i.e., the principal member was changed to observer status).

The following organizations applied for and received membership or a
reinstated membership at this meeting:

Cirrus Logic
Data General
Harting Electronik
Hitachi Micro Systems, Inc. (*)
Hitachi Storage Products (*)

The T10 membership during the meeting was 53 organizations up from 49
organizations last time.  Enclosure (1) is the list of the people present at
the meeting and enclosure (2) is the current T10 membership list.

(*) The two new Hitachi memberships were discovered on the attendance sheet
following the meeting.  Both organizations are entitled to T10 membership per
an NCITS determination that these are indeed separate organizations.

John reminded those present that NCITS fees must be paid by the end of March.
Anyone with questions about their NCITS fees status should contact the NCITS
secretariat.

4.    Approval of Minutes - January Meeting Dallas, TX (T10/97-112r1)

The minutes were approved as written.

5.    Document Distribution

Members who have any problems with their mailing subscription should deal
directly with Katrina Gray (kgray at itic.nw.dc.us) (202) 626-5741.

Larry Lamers requested that all documents for the next mailing be in his hands
in electronic format by 10:30 a.m. on Thursday March 20, 1997.  Documents
received after this time will go into a subsequent mailing.

Larry Lamers reminded the committee of the requirements for document
submission to be included in the committee mailing.  Since T10 meets its
document archiving requirements by including the NCITS Secretariat on the
mailing list, documents included in the mailing must be suitable for
archiving.  This means that native-format electronic originals with proper
identification must be submitted.  Document T10/95-147 contains the list of
requirements for submissions.  Document T10/95-361r0 contains instructions for
expeditious delivery of documents to Larry.

The electronic copies can be sent directly to Larry by email (at
ljlamers at corp.adaptec.com), placed on the SCSI BBS (719-533-7950), or they can
be transferred by ftp protocol to ftp.symbios.com and placed in the
/pub/standards/io/incoming directory. In the latter two cases, please also
send an email to Larry (at ljlamers at aol.com) informing him of the exact file
name and location of the file.

As usual, minutes are also available on the SCSI BBS (719-533-7950) and will
be distributed to the SCSI Reflector.

To be added to the SCSI Reflector, send an email to majordomo at symbios.com with
the line 'subscribe scsi' in the message body.  The NCITS Secretariat
maintains a World Wide Web page at http://www.ncits.org/.  Symbios Logic
maintains a World Wide Web page on behalf of T10 at
http://www.symbios.com/x3t10/.

The current document register is enclosure (3).

6.    Call for Patents

This is a regular agenda item to identify any potential patent issues with
developing standards.

A document is available from ANSI, "Procedures for the Development and
Coordination of American National Standards", at no charge.  This document is
also on the WWW at http://www.ncits.org/help/ansi_sdo.html.  Annex I contains
the ANSI patent policy.  Amy Marasco manages patent issues for ANSI and can be
contacted at amarasco at ansi.org or 212-642-4954.

7.    Review of Old Action Items

201)  Charles Monia will discover the full terms and conditions Digital
      intends to apply to the patent 5,586,272, provide a letter to T10
      stating a belief on the part of Digital that the patent must be
      infringed in order to comply with portions of SPI and stating that
      Digital intends to comply with the ANSI patent policy.  Complete
202)  John Lohmeyer will forward the SPI Amendment revision 3 to NCITS for
      processing toward first public review. Complete
203)  Charles Monia will report the Digital instructions regarding the
      Flexible Disk Geometry mode page to the SBC editor by 31 January 1997.
      Complete
204)  Gene Milligan will generate revision 8 of SBC based on the agreed
      resolution to the letter ballot comments. Complete
205)  John Lohmeyer will forward SBC revision 8 to NCITS for processing toward
      first public review. Complete
206)  Bob Snively will prepare SES revision 8a. Complete
207)  John Lohmeyer will forward SES revision 8a to NCITS for processing
      toward first public review. Complete
208)  Bob Snively will forward 97-101r1 to IEEE under cover of a letter
      authorized by the  T10 chair, and copy the chair and the committee
      document archive.  Carryover

8.    Subgroup and/or Project Status Reports

8.1   Project Status Summary and NCITS/OMC Liaison [Lohmeyer]

John Lohmeyer said that the current T10 project status summary was included in
the T10 Information Packages and will be included in the mailing as usual.
John also reported that the STS project proposal was approved by NCITS, but a
project number has not been assigned yet.

8.2   T10.1 Task Group Report [Lamers]

Larry Lamers, the T10.1 Chair, reported that T10.1 held a meeting in February
in Austin, Texas.  T10.1 plans to hold a meeting co-located with T11 in
Seattle in June.  Larry reported that all the active T10.1 projects are before
T10 for letter ballot toward first public review.  Larry noted that, as the
T10.1 complete the letter ballot and public review process, T10.1 activities
will be decreasing.

8.3   SPI Amendment (SPIAmnd) {Project 0855-D} [Johansson/Lamers]

John Lohmeyer reported that the SPI Amendment is in first public review, which
will close on April 29,1997.  John stated that the ANSI editor comments for
the SPI Amendment are completed, but Larry stated that he had not received the
comments yet.

8.4   SCSI-3 Interlocked Protocol (SIP) Status {Project 856-D} [Penokie]

John Lohmeyer reported that SIP had been sent to ANSI on February 14th.  He
had not yet received notification of its approval.

8.5   SCSI Common Access Method -3 (CAM-3) Status {Project 990-D} [Dallas]

Bill Dallas was not present at the meeting.  The committee discussed the
status of the CAM-3 project, but decided insufficient information was
available.  Bill should be at the next meeting and the committee deferred
any action in anticipation of Bill's report at that time.

8.6   SCSI-3 Serial Bus Protocol (SBP) Status {Project 992-D} [Roberts]

Ron Roberts reported that SBP is approved and published.  (Also see item
10.4.)

8.7   SCSI-3 Primary Commands (SPC) Status {Project 995-D} [Weber]

John Lohmeyer reported that SPC completed second public review on March 4th
and the document is ready to start NCITS letter ballot.  He noted that later
in this meeting (see 10.2.3) action is planned to make a small number of non-
substantive corrections in SPC.

8.8   SCSI-3 Block Commands (SBC) Status {Project 996-D} [Milligan]

Gene Milligan reported that SBC is out, or soon will be out, for first public
review.

8.9   SCSI-3 Stream Commands (SSC) Status {Project 997-D} [Lappin]

John Lohmeyer reported that he will be issuing a letter ballot for first
public review of SSC shortly after this meeting.  Ted Lappin will be at the
next meeting, and John expressed the hope that Ted can deal with the letter
ballot comments at that time.

8.10  SCSI-3 Medium Changer Commands (SMC) Status {Project 999-D} [Oetting]

Erich Oetting reported on the recent SSC/SMC Working Group meeting (minutes in
97-154).  He noted that the SSC/SMC Working Group recommended a proposal for
inclusion in SMC, and that the committee will be asked to act on the
recommendation later in this meeting (see 10.2.11).

8.11  SCSI-3 Controller Commands (SCC) Status {Project 1047-D} [Penokie]

John Lohmeyer reported that SCC was approved by BSR on February 6th.  George
reported that he has not received a copy of SCC yet.

8.12  Multimedia Command Set (MMC) Status {Project 1048-D} [Roberts]

Ron Roberts reported on the comments resolution for first public review of
MMC.  He reviewed the comments resolution document 97-152, developed by the
MMC working group.  Ron reported that no pre-edit comments have been received
|from the ANSI editor.

Gene Milligan moved that T10 accept the comments resolution document (97-152)
and that MMC rev 10 be forwarded to NCITS for processing toward second public
review.  Devon Worrell seconded the motion.  The committee discussed whether
the comments resolutions were or were not substantive.  The motion passed
40:0:0:13=53.

John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward MMC rev 10 NCITS for processing
toward second public review.
John Lohmeyer took an action item to respond to those who commented during the
first public review of MMC.

8.13  SCSI Parallel Interface - 2 (SPI-2) {Project 1142-D} [Ham]

Bill Ham reported that Adaptec presented data on LVD technology, which is the
primary topic of a working group meeting on April 18th.  Larry Lamers reported
that SPI-2 has been converted to FrameMaker, several integration issues have
been resolved, and a few integration issues still need work.  Minutes of the
SPI-2 Working Group meeting can be found in 97-137.

8.14  SCSI Enhanced Parallel Interface (EPI) Technical Report {Project 1143-D}
[Ham]

Bill Ham reported that EPI rev 8 has been available electronically since
January and will be in the next committee mailing.  Bill also reported on the
EPI development activities held in the general SCSI Working Group (minutes in
97-138).

8.15  SCSI Fibre Channel Protocol - 2 (FCP-2) {Project 1144-D} [Snively]

Bob Snively reported that no work has been done on FCP-2.

8.16  Boot Considerations Technical Report {Project 1154-DT}  [Lamers]

John Lohmeyer reported that the NCITS letter ballot concerning the withdrawal
of the project closed this past Monday.  No information was available
concerning the results of the ballot.

8.17  Serial Bus Protocol - 2 (SBP-2) {Project 1155-D} [Johansson]

Pete McLean reported on the activities of the SBP-2 Working Group (minutes 97-
149).  He stated that the working group has a goal of forwarding SBP-2 to
first public review in July.

8.18  SCSI Architecture Model - 2 (SAM-2) {Project 1157-D} [Monia]

Charles Monia reported that a new rev of the document will be in the next
committee mailing.  He gave a brief description of the changes.

8.19  SCSI-3 Enclosure Commands (SES) {Project 1212-D} [Snively]

John Lohmeyer reported that the first public review of SES closes on April
29th.  Bob Snively reported on efforts to coordinate SES with SAF-TE and
develop a profile of SES that could be called SAF-TE 2.

8.20  High Availability Profile (HAP) Technical Report {Project 1224-DT}
[Hagerman]

Doug Hagerman reported on his efforts to resolve some terminology issues.  He
stated that a new draft HAP will be in the next committee mailing.

8.21  SCSI Controller Commands - 2 (SCC-2) {Project 1225-D} [Penokie]

George Penokie reported on the recent SCC-2 Working Group meeting (minutes in
97-147).  He announced that the working group has decided to hold another
meeting during the May meeting week.  He stated that rev 0 of SCC-2 will be in
the next committee mailing.

8.22  Multimedia Command Set - 2 (MMC-2) Status {Project 1228-D} [Roberts]

Ron Roberts reported on the recent MMC-2 Working Group meeting (minutes 97-
153).

8.23  SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (SPC-2) Status {Project 1236-D} [Weber]

Ralph Weber reported that no progress has been made on converting SPC-2 to
FrameMaker.

8.24  SCSI-3 Transport over SBP-2 Status (STS) {Project xxxx-D} [Johansson]

John Lohmeyer reported that the project has been approved, but a project
number has not been assigned yet.  Peter Johansson reported that the first
draft of STS is available electronically in the SBP-2 directory on the FTP
site.  He noted that the sense data format has been changed in STS and asked
that the committee review it carefully.  Peter noted that the first draft of
STS will be in the next committee mailing.

9.    Old Business

9.1   READ ELEMENT STATUS and Reservation Conflicts (96-267r2)
[Basham/Oetting]

Action on this item was deferred to the May meeting.

10.   New Business

10.1  Results of letter ballots (96-046 -- -048) on forwarding SSA documents
to 1PR

Larry Lamers noted that the first generation SSA documents are all approved
and published.

John Lohmeyer reported that the results for the T10 letter ballot regarding
SSA-PH2 (96-046) can be found in 97-011.  Larry Lamers reviewed the comments
resolution document (97-130r0).  On behalf of T10.1, Larry Lamers moved that
97-130r0 be accepted as resolving the letter ballot comments for SSA-PH2 and
that SSA-PH2 rev 5 (rev 4 revised as per the comments resolutions in 97-130r0)
be forwarded to NCITS for further processing toward first public review.  The
motion passed 40:0:0:13=53.  Ed Gardner requested that, based on the comments
resolution, his No vote on the SSA-PH2 letter ballot be changed to Yes.

John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward SSA-PH2 rev 5 to NCITS for
further processing toward first public review.

John Lohmeyer reported that the results for the T10 letter ballot regarding
SSA-TL2 (96-047) can be found in 97-012.  Larry Lamers reviewed the comments
resolution document (97-131r0).  The committee requested changes in the
comments resolution document, producing 97-131r1.  On behalf of T10.1, Larry
Lamers moved that 97-131r1 be accepted as resolving the letter ballot comments
for SSA-TL2 and that SSA-TL2 rev 5a (rev 4 revised as per the comments
resolutions in 97-131r1) be forwarded to NCITS for further processing toward
first public review.  The motion passed 40:0:0:13=53.  Gene Milligan and Ed
Gardner requested that, based on the comments resolution, their No votes on
the SSA-TL2 letter ballot be changed to Yes.

John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward SSA-TL2 rev 5a to NCITS for
further processing toward first public review.

John Lohmeyer reported that the results for the T10 letter ballot regarding
SSA-S3P (96-048) can be found in 97-013.  Larry Lamers reviewed the comments
resolution document (97-132r0).  On behalf of T10.1, Larry Lamers moved that
97-132r0 be accepted as resolving the letter ballot comments for SSA-S3P and
that SSA-S3P rev 5 (rev 4 revised as per the comments resolutions in 97-132r0)
be forwarded to NCITS for further processing toward first public review.  The
motion passed 40:0:0:13=53.  Ed Gardner requested that, based on the comments
resolution, his No vote on the SSA-S3P letter ballot be changed to Yes.

John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward SSA-S3P rev 5 to NCITS for
further processing toward first public review.

10.2  Actions on Working Group Recommendations

10.2.1      Changes to Stabilized Clauses in SBP-2 [Johansson]

Peter Johansson moved that T10 accept the recommendation of the SBP-2 ad hoc
working group to incorporate the changes in 97-128r2, 97-133r0, 97-134-r1 and
97-136r0 into the previously stabilized portions of SBP-2.  Ed Gardner
seconded the motion.

Peter explained that:

    97-128r2 expands the status code values available to report 1394 transport
errors;
    97-133r0 fixes self-contradictory explanations of REQUEST ABORTED;
    97-134r1 changes the initial state of the UNSOLICITED_STATUS_ENABLE CSR;
and
    97-136r0 adds a table to explain target reset states in more detail.

Peter reported that the recommendation of the working group was unanimously in
favor of all four proposals.

The motion passed 40:0:0:13=53.

10.2.2      Project Proposal for SCSI Socket/SSL Services (SSS) (97-129r2)
[Parker/Lohmeyer]

John Lohmeyer described the project proposal for a SCSI Socket/Secure Socket
Layer standard.  He briefly reviewed the working group discussion of the
project proposal (minutes in 97-138).  The committee discussed whether to vote
on the project proposal now or later.  Gene Milligan requested a description
of the relationship between this project and the Network Connected Storage
Device (NCSD) lead by Garth Gibson at Carnegie Mellon University.  The
committee agreed that the two projects are related but not overlapping and
that NCSD should be included in liaison activity.

Bob Snively moved that 97-129r2 be accepted by T10 and forwarded to NCITS for
further processing.  Gene Milligan seconded the motion.  The motion passed
40:0:0:13=53.  John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward 97-129r2 to NCITS
for further processing.

10.2.3      Non-substantive SPC Changes [Weber]

Ralph Weber described several non-substantive corrections that can be applied
to SPC to improve it as the standard continues processing after second public
review (in which no comments were received).  The non-substantive corrections
were as follows:

Table 21 -Peripheral device type (page 34), Code 0Ch: change the description
|from "Array controller device (e.g., RAID)" to "Storage array controller
device (e.g., RAID)"

Correct non-existent clause references:
Change 7.22.2 to 7.21.2 on: pg 69 last line and pg 91 last line before 7.21.4
Change 7.22.3 to 7.21.3 on: pg 70 first line
Change 7.22.4 to 7.21.4 on: pg 88 list item c)

Change "extent list length" to "Parameter list length" on: pg 87 last sentence
of first paragraph in 7.21.1, pg 88 first line of item a), pg 88 first line of
last paragraph, pg 92 Table 72 - RESERVE(6) CDB

On page 90 last paragraph before Table 70, change "extent list length" to
"length of the extent descriptors"

On page 125, Table 109, change "Page length" to "Identifier length"
On page 126 last two paragraphs, capitalize "Identifier length" and "Code
value" as per their usage in table 109

Update: Vendor ID table (Annex C, Informative)

Ralph Weber moved that the changes described above be accepted as non-
substantive changes to SPC, that the technical editor be instructed to prepare
SPC rev 11a containing only those changes, and that SPC revision 11a be
forward to NCITS to replace SPC rev 11 in the standard development process.
Gary Porter seconded the motion.  The motion passed 40:0:0:13=53.

Ralph Weber took an action item to prepare SPC rev 11a.  John Lohmeyer took an
action item to forward SPC rev 11a to NCITS as a replacement for SPC rev  11.

10.2.4      Add Mode Page for Fibre Channel features (96-195r4) [Houlder]

Gene Milligan moved that T10 accept the favorable working group recommendation
for including 96-195r4 in FCP-2.  Peter Johansson seconded the motion.  The
motion passed 38:1:0:14=53.  Describing his reason for his no vote, Charles
Monia stated that he believes that it is inappropriate to manage interconnect
behavior with SCSI commands.

10.2.5      World Wide Names (97-101r2) [Snively]

Bob Snively described the process by which the world wide names description
was revised and how the previous revision of the document needed improvement
before being sent to IEEE.  Bob Snively moved that T10 approve 97-101r2 as a
replacement for 97-101r1 for forwarding to IEEE.  Charles Monia seconded the
motion.  The motion passed 40:0:0:13=53.

Bob Snively took an action item (208 carryover) to forward 97-101r2 to IEEE
under cover of a letter authorized by the T10 chair, and copy the chair and
the committee document archive.

10.2.6      Proposed change in Qerr=1 Behavior in SPC-2 (96-277r2) [Weber]

Ralph Weber described working group requested revisions to 96-277r1 that
resulted in r2.  Ralph Weber moved that T10 accept 96-277r2 for inclusion in
SPC-2 and SAM-2.  Ed Gardner seconded the motion.  The motion passed
39:1:0:13=53.  Describing his reason for his no vote, Charles Monia expressed
the concern that the proposal leaves open the possibility that some other T10
document might require an unacceptable behavior with respect to QErr and that
the relationship with other documents is not clearly described in the proposed
new text.

10.2.7      SIP Message Issues (97-141r2) [Penokie]

George Penokie reviewed the working group discussion of the proposal (minutes
in 97-138).  The committee identified typographical problems in the proposal,
as presented.  The committee expressed strong editorial disagreement with the
wording of item b) in the disconnect privilege part of the proposal.
Acceptable wording was devised and George agreed to prepare 97-141r3.  George
Penokie moved that T10 accept 97-141r3 (97-141r2 as revised by the committee)
for inclusion in the non-stabilized clauses of SPI-2.  Gary Porter seconded
the motion.  The motion passed 39:0:0:14=53.

10.2.8      Additional Device Types for ASC/ASCQ (97-140r0) [Penokie]

Based on the working group recommendation, George Penokie moved that T10
accept 97-140r0 for inclusion in SPC-2.  Erich Oetting seconded the motion.
The motion passed 39:0:0:14=53.

10.2.9      RESERVE/RELEASE Issues (97-142r1) [Penokie]

Based on the working group recommendation, George Penokie moved that T10
accept 97-142r1 for inclusion in SPC-2.  Ralph Weber seconded the motion.  The
motion passed 39:0:0:14=53.

10.2.10     Logical Unit Response to Transceiver Mode Changes (96-270r2)
[Penokie]

Based on the working group recommendation, George Penokie moved that T10
accept 96-270r2 for inclusion in the non-stabilized part of SPI-2 and SPC-2.
Jeff Williams seconded the motion.  The motion passed 39:0:0:14=53.

10.2.11     SMC Device IDs (97-148r1) [Oetting]

Erich Oetting described the proposal and working group requested revisions to
the proposal (minutes in 97-154). Based on the working group recommendation,
Erich Oetting moved that T10 accept 97-148r1 for inclusion in SMC.  Ken Hallam
seconded the motion.  The motion passed 39:0:0:14=53.

10.3  Deletion of SCAM from SPI-2 and HAP [Milligan]

Gene Milligan reviewed the working group discussion of the proposal to delete
SCAM from SPI-2 and HAP (minutes in 97-138).  Gene Milligan moved that T10
retain SCAM as it is defined in the Amended SPI and not include SCAM as it is
defined in the Amended SPI in any T10 projects subsequent to SPI.  George
Penokie seconded the motion.  As the first person to discuss the motion, Gene
Milligan moved that the motion to not include SCAM in the named T10 projects
be placed on the table.  The motion to table passed 33:6.

Chair's note:  The above motion will stay `on the table' until such time as a
motion to take it from the table passes by a simple majority.

10.4  Recommendation to Withdraw ANSI X3.268 (SBP) [Johansson]

Peter Johansson moved that T10 recommend that NCITS take the necessary steps
to withdraw ANSI X3.268-1997 (Serial Bus Protocol).  Dennis Pak seconded the
motion.  The committee discussed the motivations for the motion, in particular
concerns about industry confusion between SBP and SBP-2.  Several alternatives
to the motion were recommended; including making SBP-2 a designated
replacement for SBP and renaming SBP-2 something that cannot be confused with
SBP.

On a roll-call vote, the motion passed 30:8:0:15=53.  Describing his no vote,
Ed Gardner stated that this motion makes sense if it is intended to prohibit
any and all implementations of SBP.  John Lohmeyer took an action item inform
NCITS that T10 recommends the withdrawal ANSI X3.268-1997 (Serial Bus
Protocol).  The details of the roll-call vote were as follows:

Organization              Stat   Name                Yes  No   Abs  NP   
Adaptec, Inc.             P      Mr. Norm Harris          1              
Amdahl Corp.                                                        1    
AMP, Inc.                 P      Mr. Charles Brill        1              
Amphenol Interconnect     P      Mr. Michael              1              
                                 Wingard
Ancot Corp.               A      Mr. Gary Porter          1              
Apple Computer            A      Mr. Ron Roberts     1                   
Berg Electronics                                                    1    
Cable Design              P      Mr. Richard         1                   
Technologies                     Wagner
Ciprico Inc.              P      Mr. Gerry Johnsen   1                   
Circuit Assembly Corp.    P      Mr. Ian Morrell     1                   
Cirrus Logic Inc.         P      Mr. Ken Wolfgang    1                   
CMD Technology            P      Mr. Edward Haske    1                   
Congruent Software, Inc.  P      Mr. Peter           1                   
                                 Johansson
Dallas Semiconductor      P      Mr. Michael Smith   1                   
Data General / Clariion   P      Mr. Greg McSorley   1                   
Digital Equipment Corp.                                             1    
Distributed Processing                                              1    
Tech.
Eastman Kodak Co.         P      Mr. Robert Reisch   1                   
ENDL                                                                1    
Exabyte Corp.             P      Ms. Constance       1                   
                                 Kephart
Fujitsu Computer                                                    1    
Products,Am
Harting Elektronik        P      Mr. Joel Urban           1              
Hewlett Packard Co.       P      Mr. J. R. Sims      1                   
Hitachi Cable             P      Mr. Zane Daggett         1              
Manchester,Inc
Hitachi Micro Systems,                                              1    
Inc.
Hitachi Storage Products                                            1    
Honda Connectors          P      Mr. Thomas J.            1              
                                 Kulesza
IBM Corp.                 A#     Mr. Dan Colegrove   1                   
Iomega Corp.                                                        1    
KnowledgeTek, Inc.        P      Mr. Dennis Moore    1                   
Linfinity Micro           A      Mr. Louis           1                   
                                 Grantham
Madison Cable Corp.                                                 1    
Maxtor Corp.              P      Mr. Pete McLean     1                   
Molex Inc.                A      Mr. Jay Neer        1                   
NEC Electronics, Inc.                                               1    
Oak Technology, Inc.      P      Mr. Robin Freeze    1                   
Ophidian Designs          P      Mr. Edward A.            1              
                                 Gardner
Philips Key Modules       P      Mr. William P.      1                   
                                 McFerrin
QLogic Corp.                                                        1    
Quantum Corp.             A      Mr. Mark Evans      1                   
Seagate Technology        P      Mr. Gene Milligan   1                   
Silicon Systems, Inc.     P      Mr. Dave Guss       1                   
Sony Electronics, Inc.    P      Mr. Dennis Pak      1                   
Storage Technology Corp.  P      Mr. Erich Oetting   1                   
Sun Microsystems          P      Mr. Robert N.       1                   
Computer Co                      Snively
Symbios Logic Inc.        P      Mr. John Lohmeyer   1                   
SyQuest Technology, Inc.  P      Mr. Patrick         1                   
                                 Mercer
Tandem Computers          P      Mr. Pete Tobias     1                   
Toshiba America                                                     1    
UNISYS Corporation                                                  1    
Unitrode Corporation      P      Mr. Paul D.         1                   
                                 Aloisi
Western Digital           P      Mr. Jeffrey L.      1                   
Corporation                      Williams
Woven Electronics                                                   1    
                                                                         
                                                     30   8    0    15   = 53

11.   ISO

11.1  ISO Report [Milligan]

Gene Milligan, the T10 International Representative, provided the following
electronic report:

"ISO Report:

DIS 14776-411 SAM has been sent by the SC 25 Secretariat to Geneva to be
issued for a DIS ballot. However he has noted some changes that were not found
in the text but are in the editor's report and some other editorial requests.
He suggests trying to get a revised text in time to substitute for the ballot.

JTC 1 TAG vote to Approve the U.S. submission of ANSI X3.232-1996:
Information technology - SCSI-2 Common access method transport and SCSI
interface module, for Fast-Track processing in JTC 1 has been issued as JTLB
1512 closing 4-7-97.

DIS 9314-4 FDDI SMF-PMD passed 22:1:2:0 with comments from Germany, Japan, and
the UK.

Recommend to JTC1 TAG that the US position on the CD letter ballot (SC 25
N324) on IPI-3 Tape (CD9318-4) be in favor of approval.

Recommend to JTC1 TAG that the US position on the CD letter ballot (SC 25
N325) on HIPPI-ATM (CD11518-8, Rev 1.7) be in favor of approval.

Recommend to JTC1 TAG that the US position on the CD letter ballot (SC 25
N326) on FC-AL (CD14165-121, Rev 4.5) be in favor of approval.

Recommend to JTC1 TAG that the US position on the CD letter ballot (SC 25
N327) on FC-SB (CD14165-121, Rev 3.4) be in favor of approval.

Recommend to JTC1 TAG that the US position on the CD letter ballot (SC 25
N330) on FC-FP (CD14165-211, Rev 2.2) be in favor of approval.

Recommend to JTC1 TAG that the US position on the CD letter ballot (SC 25
N331) on HIPPI-Serial (CD11518-9, Rev 2.6) be in favor of approval.

Recommend to JTC1 TAG that the US position on the CD letter ballot (SC 25
N332) on FC-GS (CD14165-411, Rev 3.0) be in favor of approval.

Recommend to JTC1 TAG that the US position on the CD letter ballot (SC 25
N328) on FC-PH-2 (CD14165-112, Rev 7.3) be in favor of approval with numerous
comments.

Recommend to JTC1 TAG that the US position on the CD letter ballot (SC 25
N329) on FC-PH-3 (CD14165-113, Rev 8.8) be in favor of approval with numerous
comments.

The CD 10192-5 ballot on Information Technology Home Electronic Systems (HES)
Part 5: Universal Interface class 1 failed to reach substantial support
8:5:0:7.

JTC 1 has recommended cancellation of the projects for FDDI conformance
standards, EUROBUS A, IPI-3 Disk, IPI-3 Tape, IPI Enhanced PHY, HIPPI-ATM,
HIPPI-SE, FC-PH, FC-FP, FC-AL, & FC-SB. The IR is in the middle of a flurry of
correspondence protesting the knee jerk process that was used as an adjunct of
the standards reengineering process that led to erroneous cancellation
recommendations.

In this regard, those with international contacts should be soliciting more
active international support if they are aware of a need for international
standards.

The JTC 1 ISO high level steering group for CALS HLSGC has put out an
interesting report (JT/97-0062) on Improvement of requirements responsiveness
of standards bodies covering: Reengineering of JTC 1; Perceived Value/Benefits
of International Standards; Options to quickly adopt existing solutions in
International Standards; and Recommendations.

The US JTC 1 TAG Special Group on Functional Standardization (JTFS) was
disbanded.  JTFS was responsible for  International Standardization Profiles
(PDISP). Consequently SC TAGs (e.g. T10-12) are encouraged to establish
liaison, as appropriate, with the OIW.  There are no membership fees
associated with participation on the OIW.  Registration fees are required of
meeting attendees.

Contact information for the OIW is as follows:

      Mr. Joseph Hungate
      OIW Chairman
      TRW Integrated Engineering Division
      One Federal Systems Park Drive
      Fairfax, VA 22033
      Telephone:  703-803-4943
      Fax:        703-803-5096
      Email:      joseph.i.hungate at trw.com

At the last Meeting of JTC1/SC26, it was suggested that a microprocessor-
systems standard developed by the Trade Association VITA (and bearing an ANSI
designation) be Fast Tracked by the UK NB.

The DOD has requested that NCITS and the JTC 1 TAG provide reflectors with
majordomo capabilities to facilitate the national and international standards
process.

The Danish UNIX systems User Group (DKUUG) has offered various electronic
services, free of charge, to any JTC 1 subcommittee or working group. The
service includes email exploder, with automatic sequence numbering and
archiving, and access to X.400 and Internet addresses; Web services, including
password protected ad public areas; ftp services. At the moment SC2, SC18,
SC22, SC24, SC29, SGFS, and some JTC 1 ad hoc groups are using their services.
For further information the contact is keld at dkuug.dk.

Guidelines have been finalized for cooperation between ISO and the European
Committee for Standardization (CEN). The cooperation provides for mutual
representation at meetings, adoption of International Standards as European
Standards, and adoption of European Standards as ISO standards.

There is a similar agreement between ISO/IEC JTC 1 and the European
Telecommunications Standards Institute (ETSI). "


11.2  ISO Business [Milligan]

Ron Roberts moved that MMC be submitted to ISO.  Bob Snively seconded the
motion.  The motion passed 35:0:0:17=53.

George Penokie moved that SPI be submitted to ISO.  Gene Milligan seconded the
motion.  The motion passed 36:1:0:16=53.  Commenting on the reason for his no
vote, George objected to the work he will have to do.

Ralph Weber moved that SPC rev 11a be submitted to ISO. Gene Milligan seconded
the motion.  The motion passed 35:0:0:18=53.

Gene Milligan moved that SBC be submitted to ISO.  George Penokie seconded the
motion.  The motion passed 35:0:0:18=53.

Gene Milligan moved that the IR be instructed to submit the SPI patent letter
through the proper channels to ISO/IEC and that the IR also be instructed to
supply a replacement patent statement for SPI to ISO/IEC.  John Lohmeyer
seconded the motion.  The motion passed 36:0:0:17=53.

Gene Milligan announced that SC25 will be meeting during the week of June 23rd
(the working group will meet on June 23-26) in the vicinity of Rio de Janeiro.
The notice for this meeting has not been sent yet.  Gene offered no reason for
the lack of notice.  Gene informed the committee that T10 should identify the
members of its delegation at the May meeting.

Peter Johansson moved that T10 instruct the IR to take the necessary actions
at SC25 to withdraw the international version of ANSI X3.268-1997 (Serial Bus
Protocol).  Pete McLean seconded the motion.

On a roll-call vote, the motion passed 32:7:0:14=53.  The details of the roll-
call vote were as follows:

Organization              Stat    Name                Yes  No   Abs   NP  
Adaptec, Inc.             P       Mr. Norm Harris          1              
Amdahl Corp.                                                          1   
AMP, Inc.                 P       Mr. Charles Brill        1              
Amphenol Interconnect     P       Mr. Michael              1              
                                  Wingard
Ancot Corp.               A       Mr. Gary Porter          1              
Apple Computer            A       Mr. Ron Roberts     1                   
Berg Electronics                                                      1   
Cable Design              P       Mr. Richard         1                   
Technologies                      Wagner
Ciprico Inc.              P       Mr. Gerry Johnsen   1                   
Circuit Assembly Corp.    P       Mr. Ian Morrell     1                   
Cirrus Logic Inc.         P       Mr. Ken Wolfgang    1                   
CMD Technology            P       Mr. Edward Haske    1                   
Congruent Software, Inc.  P       Mr. Peter           1                   
                                  Johansson
Dallas Semiconductor      P       Mr. Michael Smith   1                   
Data General / Clariion   P       Mr. Greg McSorley   1                   
Digital Equipment Corp.   P       Mr. Charles Monia   1                   
Distributed Processing                                                1   
Tech.
Eastman Kodak Co.         P       Mr. Robert Reisch   1                   
ENDL                                                                  1   
Exabyte Corp.             P       Ms. Constance       1                   
                                  Kephart
Fujitsu Computer                                                      1   
Products,Am
Harting Elektronik        P       Mr. Joel Urban           1              
Hewlett Packard Co.       P       Mr. J. R. Sims      1                   
Hitachi Cable             P       Mr. Zane Daggett         1              
Manchester,Inc
Hitachi Micro Systems,                                                1   
Inc.
Hitachi Storage Products                                              1   
Honda Connectors          P       Mr. Thomas J.            1              
                                  Kulesza
IBM Corp.                 A#      Mr. Dan Colegrove   1                   
Iomega Corp.                                                          1   
KnowledgeTek, Inc.        P       Mr. Dennis Moore    1                   
Linfinity Micro           A       Mr. Louis           1                   
                                  Grantham
Madison Cable Corp.                                                   1   
Maxtor Corp.              P       Mr. Pete McLean     1                   
Molex Inc.                A       Mr. Jay Neer        1                   
NEC Electronics, Inc.                                                 1   
Oak Technology, Inc.      P       Mr. Robin Freeze    1                   
Ophidian Designs          P       Mr. Edward A.       1                   
                                  Gardner
Philips Key Modules       P       Mr. William P.      1                   
                                  McFerrin
QLogic Corp.                                                          1   
Quantum Corp.             A       Mr. Mark Evans      1                   
Seagate Technology        P       Mr. Gene Milligan   1                   
Silicon Systems, Inc.     P       Mr. Dave Guss       1                   
Sony Electronics, Inc.    P       Mr. Dennis Pak      1                   
Storage Technology Corp.  P       Mr. Erich Oetting   1                   
Sun Microsystems          P       Mr. Robert N.       1                   
Computer Co                       Snively
Symbios Logic Inc.        P       Mr. John Lohmeyer   1                   
SyQuest Technology, Inc.  P       Mr. Patrick         1                   
                                  Mercer
Tandem Computers          P       Mr. Pete Tobias     1                   
Toshiba America                                                       1   
UNISYS Corporation                                                    1   
Unitrode Corporation      P       Mr. Paul D.         1                   
                                  Aloisi
Western Digital           P       Mr. Jeffrey L.      1                   
Corporation                       Williams
Woven Electronics                                                     1   
                                                                          
                                                      32   7    0     14  = 53

12.   Liaison Reports

12.1  T11 Liaison Report [Cummings]

Roger Cummings, T11 Chair, was unable to attend but provided the following
electronic report:

"X3T11 LIAISON REPORT to X3T10 & X3T12

X3T11 met on February 5, 1997 with 139 people in attendance.   Silicon Systems
lost membership. Arxcel Technologies, Framatome Connectors USA, Fujikura
Technologies USA & US Conec were added as a new member organizations. CDT
returned as a member organization. The membership of X3T11 is now 79
organizations.

It was reported that HIPPI-PH had completed reaffirmation as X3.183-
1991[R1996]. X3 Letter Ballots on the final approvals of dpANS for the Revised
HIPPI-SC, SBCON, FC-PH-2, HIPPI-ATM and HIPPI Serial projects closed on
January 14, 1997, with F23-O00-A00-DNV2.

It was also reported that the following standards received final approval;

FC-LE (X3.287-1996), FC-GS (X3.288- 1996) & FC-FG (X3.289-1996)

and that a Project Proposal for a revision to ANSI X3.210-1992, HIPPI Framing
Protocol (HIPPI-FP), was in X3 Letter Ballot closing March 10, 1997.

The following project proposals were approved by consent at the November OMC
meeting:

#       NAME

1237-D  FC-AV
1238-D  FC-BB
1239-D  FC-SB Revised

By identical rollcall votes of F66-O00-DNV11, T11 recommended that the JTC 1
TAG approve the CD Letter Ballots for IPI-3 Tape, FC-FP, FC-SB, FC-AL, HIPPI-
ATM and HIPPI Serial as is, and approve the CD Letter Ballots for FC-PH-2 and
FC-PH-3 with comments equivalent to those submitted during the first Public
Reviews in domestic processing and identified errata. T11 also recommended by
rollcall votes of F66-O00-DNV11 that the standardization activities for the
international IPI-3 Disk, IPI-3 Tape, HIPPI-ATM, HIPPI Serial, FC-PH, FC-FP,
FC-AL and FC-SB projects be NOT stopped or canceled.

By a vote of F60-O00-DNV19, T11 forwarded a Project Proposal for HIPPI
Scheduled Transfers (HIPPI-ST) for further processing.

By a lengthy process involving several rollcall votes, T11 adopted the 3M
Galaxy connector (proposed by 3M et al) for inclusion in a future FC-PH
variant.

A motion to change the name of the FC Slotted Loop (FC-SL) project was
withdrawn.

It was noted that a Call for Volunteers for the position of Chair, TC T11 has
been issued which closes on 4/2/97. Roger Cummings indicated that he has
permission from DPT to stand for Chair again.

A proposal to reorganize T11 and establish a number of Task Groups was
discussed in detail, and several changes were suggested. A T11 Letter Ballot
is being held on a modified reorganization proposal.

The next meeting of X3T11 is being hosted by Jeff Stai of Brocade
Communications during the week of April 7, 1997 at the Hyatt, Palm Springs,
CA. The phone number is 619-322-9000. The Plenary meeting is on Wednesday,
April 9. Interim study and ad hoc meetings have been approved for:

HIPPI                  3/4-6    San Jose, CA
FC Working Study Group 3/10-11  San Diego, CA
FC-AV                  3/18     Portland, OR

as well as the usual meetings during the X3T11 Plenary week."

12.2  T13 Liaison Report [Milligan]

Gene Milligan made an oral report to the committee and provided the following
electronic report::

"T13 Report:

      A major portion of the recent T13 ad hoc meeting addressed ATA/ATAPI-4 -
Project 1153D Revision 9.  As a result new protocol diagrams have been
produced in Rev 10 which will be a key aspect of the 3/18-21/97 ad hoc
meeting. INTRQ timing has been added.

      Another topic for the ad hoc is the Set Max  functionality.

      The review of the Enhanced BIOS Disk Drive Technical Report - Project
1226DT resulted in resolution of the Enhanced FDPT signature of A0h which has
been changed to Axh.

      The project proposal for a Tailgate standard passed 20:1:0:8. The
proposal for the proposed standard is D97107r0

      A proposal, associated with the SFF 80 line cable, is being considered
that would connect PDIAG only between device 0 and device 1 and not connected
it to the host.  The corresponding host pin would be grounded to allow the
host to detect whether the cable was the new 80 style or the current 40 style.
CSEL would also be changed to eliminate the stub with device 0 only
configurations.

      An ad hoc on Tailgate was held jointly with the T10 SBP-2 ad hoc March
10-11, 1997 in San Diego, CA hosted by QLogic.

T13 Meeting Schedule

The next plenary meeting of T13 will be April 25, 1997 at the Western Digital
facility, in Irvine, CA hosted by Western Digital.

The next ad hoc meeting for all  projects will be March 18-21, 1997 at the
Seagate facility hosted by Seagate.
The long term meeting schedule is:

The subsequent working group meeting will be April 23-24, 1997 at the Western
Digital facility, in Irvine, CA hosted by Western Digital.

Date                Location      Host               Contact
January 22-24,      San Jose, CA  Seagate            Marc
1997 *                                               Noblitt
February 18-21,     Ft. Collins,  Symbios Logic      Mike
1997                CO                               Winchell
March 18-21, 1997   San Jose, CA  Seagate            Marc
                                                     Noblitt
April 23-25, 1997   Irvine, CA    Western Digital    Tom Hanan
*
May 21-23, 1997     Estes Park,   Seagate            Marc
                    CO                               Noblitt
June 18-20, 1997    Irvine, CA    Western Digital    Tom Hanan
July 23-25, 1997 *  San Jose, CA  Seagate            Marc
                                                     Noblitt
August 20-22, 1997  Longmont, CA  SSI/TI             Yogi
                                                     Schaffner
September 24-26,    Irvine, CA    Phoenix            Curtis
1997                              Technologies       Stevens
October 22-24,      TBD, HI       Quantum            Mark Evans
1997*
December 3-5, 1997  Irvine, CA    Western Digital    Tom Hanan
January 21-23,      San Jose, CA  Seagate            Marc
1998*                                                Noblitt
February 18-20,     Colorado      Symbios Logic (?)  Mike
1998                                                 Winchell
March 25-27, 1998                 Maxtor (?)         Pete McLean
April 15-17, 1998   Irvine, CA    Western Digital    Tom Hanan
*
May 20-22, 1998                                      
June 17-19, 1998    Irvine, CA    Western Digital    Tom Hanan
July 22-24, 1997 *                                   


      * Plenary on Friday"

12.3  SFF Industry Group [Allan]

Dal Allan provided the following electronic report:

"The SFF SSWG met on March 12, and addressed two new issues which had been
brought to SFF attention, and made decisions on existing activities.

 - An interoperability issue exists between an SCA-2 connector on a drive
mating to an SCA receptacle on the backplane causing intermittent contact at
an OEM.  A SSWG is scheduled for 3/26-27 to ascertain whether this is a
cabinet/drive tray integration problem, a connector not-to-spec problem or a
deficiency in the SFF-8451 specification. It is hoped that the OEM will
provide hardware for group analysis.

 - A proposal from Compaq and Berg to define an 80-conductor cable designed
for improved signal characteristics was discussed and met with positive
response. The connectors used will be color-coded to discretely identify host,
Device 0 and Device 1 and the assembly will be visually distinct from existing
ATA cables. A new connector which permits mass termination of hi-density cable
was presented by Circuit Assembly.

 - Both versions of the VHDCI over-under configuration will be defined in Rev
2. This will be the only footprint with a second alternative."

12.4  IEEE 1394 [Johansson]

Peter Johansson made an oral report to the committee and provided the
following electronic report:

"Since the last T10 meeting, the IEEE P1394a Working Group has met twice:
January 16 in Houston, TX, and February 5 - 6 in Bothell, WA.

At the Houston meeting the first significant draft of P1394a was available for
review. Principal discussion topics were the 4-pin connector and cable, the
standardization of the PHY/LINK interface and the proposed PHY arbitration
enhancements.

For those unfamiliar with the background of the PHY enhancements, Bill
Duckwall has made a white-paper available that is a useful companion document
to the P1394a draft supplement.

The Bothell meeting continued a critical review of the proposed PHY
enhancements. Additional topics introduced were the notion of a suspend /
resume mode (critical for mobile applications which are very power sensitive),
incompatibility between existing PHY implementations with respect to speed
signaling and P1394a desiderata from the OpenHCI development group.

The next meeting of IEEE P1394a is in San Jose, CA, on March 17 and 18. There
is a European meeting scheduled for April 16, 1997, in Eindhoven, Netherlands.
Additional meetings have not yet been scheduled.

The reflector used by the working group is P1394 at Sun.com. This reflector is
not automated but is maintained by Bob.Snively at Sun.com.

The FTP site used by the working group is
ftp.symbios.com:/pub/standards/io/1394.

For additional information, please contact the IEEE P1394a Working Group
chair, Peter Johansson, who may be reached by EMail at pjohansson at aol.com."

12.5  IEEE P1285 Status

No report was available.

12.6  IEEE P1596.8 Status

Gene Milligan reported that he has not heard about any activity in IEEE
P1596.8.

12.7  SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Jones/Grantham]

Louis Grantham, Linfinity Microelectronics, made an oral report to the
committee and provided the following electronic report:

"STA meetings have been moved to Fridays of the T10 week so the next meeting
is tomorrow at this hotel.  Articles are written for each Computer Technology
Review issue and other publications on SCSI technologies and applications.  A
successful Ultra SCSI Seminar was presented in Japan in February.  Louis
passed around a copy of the presentation material.  The STA Technical Liaison
Committee met yesterday and received input from T10 members.  This meeting has
been moved to Thursday morning before T10 plenary starting in May. "

13.   Review of Action Items

208)  Bob Snively will forward 97-101r2 to IEEE under cover of a letter
      authorized by the T10 chair, and copy the chair and the committee
      document archive.
209)  Larry Lamers will update the SPI Amendment patent statement based on the
      declaration by Digital.
210)  John Lohmeyer will forward MMC rev 10 NCITS for processing toward second
      public review.
211)  John Lohmeyer will respond to those who commented during the first
      public review of MMC.
212)  John Lohmeyer will forward SSA-PH2 rev 5 to NCITS for further processing
      toward first public review.
213)  John Lohmeyer will forward SSA-TL2 rev 5a to NCITS for further
      processing toward first public review.
214)  John Lohmeyer will forward SSA-S3P rev 5 to NCITS for further processing
      toward first public review.
215)  John Lohmeyer will forward 97-129r2 (the SSS project proposal) to NCITS
      for further processing.
216)  Ralph Weber will prepare SPC rev 11a.
217)  John Lohmeyer will forward SPC rev 11a to NCITS as a replacement for SPC
      rev  11.
218)  John Lohmeyer will inform NCITS that T10 recommends the withdrawal ANSI
      X3.268-1997 (Serial Bus Protocol).
219)  Gene Milligan will submit MMC to ISO.
220)  Gene Milligan will submit SPI to ISO
221)  Gene Milligan will submit SPC rev 11a to ISO
222)  Gene Milligan will submit SBC to ISO.
223)  Gene Milligan will submit the SPI patent letter through the proper
      channels to ISO/IEC and supply a replacement patent statement for SPI to
      ISO/IEC.
224)  Gene Milligan will take the necessary actions at SC25 to withdraw the
      international version of ANSI X3.268-1997 (Serial Bus Protocol).

14.   Meeting Schedule

The next plenary meeting of T10 will be May 8, 1997 in Natick, MA at the
Holiday Inn Crowne Plaza (508- 653-8800), hosted by Digital Equipment Corp.
The meeting will begin at 1:00 p.m. on Thursday.

The meeting list for the next plenary week is:

                              May `97 Meeting Map
                               (3/18/97 Version)

Monday 5/5     8   9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9
                   +===========================================+
                   | SPI-2 Working Group                       |      (20)
                   +===============================+===========+
                   | SBP-2 Working Group           |                  (25)
                   +===============================+---------------+
                   | Fibre Channel WG              |FC Hub Profile |  (40)
                   +-------------------------------+---------------+


Tuesday 5/6        9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
                   +===========================================+
                   | SCSI-3 WG  (EPI topics are Tuesday am)    |      (40)
                   +===================================+=======+
                   | MMC WG                            |              (20)
                   +===============+===============+===+
                   | SCC-2 WG      |                                  (10)
                   +===============+===============+
                   | SBP-2 Working Group           |                  (25)
                   +===============+===============+
                   |Fibre Channel WG|                                 (40)
                   +---------------+

Wednesday 5/7      9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
                   +===================================+
                   | SCSI-3 WG                         |              (40)
                   +===================================+
                   | MMC Working Group                 |              (20)
                   +===============+===================+---+
                                   | SFF SSWGs     | SFF   |          (40)
                                   +---------------+-------+

Thursday 5/8   8   9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
                                   +===========================+
                                   | T10 Plenary Meeting       |      (70)
                   +===============+===========================+
                   | SSC/SMC WG    |                                  (15)
                   +===============+
                   | STA Tech      |                                  (25)
                   +---------------+

Friday 5/9     8   9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5
                 +---------------------------------+
                 | SCSI Trade Association (STA)    |                  (30)
                 +---------------------------------+

    Meetings marked with == are T10-authorized meetings.
    Meetings marked with -- are authorized by other groups and may change
    without notice.


Meeting Map Abbreviation Key:
Amnd:       Amendment
CAM:        Common Access Method
CAM-3:      Next generation CAM for SCSI-3
Diskboys:   Industry group studying disk attachment via IEEE 1394
EPI:        SCSI Enhanced Parallel Interface (Technical Report)
Fast-20:    Data Transfer at 20 Mega-transfers/second (a.k.a., Ultra)
Fast-40:    Data Transfer at 40 Mega-transfers/second (a.k.a., Ultra2)
FC:         Fibre Channel
FC-AL:      Fibre Channel - Arbitrated Loop (a T11 project)
FCLC:       Fibre Channel Loop Community (not an NCITS activity)
I/F:        Interface
HAP:        High Availability Profile (Technical Report)
LB:         Letter Ballot
MMC:        SCSI-3 Multimedia Commands (CD-ROM)
PH:         Physical (Connectors, Cables, Transceivers, etc.)
Plenary:    Full Committee Meeting
RAB:        RAID Advisory Board (not an NCITS activity)
RAID:       Redundant Array of Independent Devices
SBC:        SCSI-3 Block Commands
SBP:        SCSI-3 Serial Bus Protocol
SBP-2:      Serial Bus Protocol for IEEE 1394 (2nd generation)
SCC:        SCSI-3 Controller Commands (RAID)
SCSI:       Small Computer System Interface
SES:        SCSI Enclosure Services
SPC:        SCSI-3 Primary Commands
STA:        SCSI Trade Association (not an NCITS activity)
STA Tech:   STA Technical Meeting (T10 members invited)
STS:        SCSI Transport via SBP-2
SFF:        SFF Industry Group (not an NCITS activity)
SG:         Study Group
SMC:        SCSI-3 Medium Changer Commands
SPI-2:      Second Generation SCSI-3 Parallel Interface
SSA:        Serial Storage Interface
SSC:        SCSI-3 Stream Commands (includes Tape)
SSWGs:      Specific-Subject Working Groups
T10:        Lower Level Interfaces Technical Committee
T10.1:      SSA Task Group of T10
VHDCI       Very High Density Cabled Interconnect
WG:         Working Group (same as Ad Hoc Group)

Several other T10 events are also planned:

Event                Date(s)              Location/contact
-------------------- -------------------- --------------------------------
SPI-2 Working Group  4/18/97              San Jose, CA / Norm Harris
SBP-2 Working Group  4/10-11/97           San Jose, CA / Curtis Stevens

For more information about T10 activities, please contact the following
people:

Activity                     Contact         Telephone/Email
---------------------------- --------------- ------------------------------
CAM-3                        Bill Dallas     (603) 881-2508
                                             dallas at wasted.enet.dec.com
EPI & SPI-2                  Bill Ham        (508) 841-2629
                                             ham at subsys.enet.dec.com
FCP, FCP-2                   Robert Snively  (415) 336-5332
                                             Bob.Snively at eng.sun.com
GPP                          Gary Stephens   (602) 321-1725
                                             6363897 at mcimail.com
SAM & SAM-2                  Charles Monia   (508) 841-6757
                                             charles.monia at shr.mts.dec.com
SBC                          Gene Milligan   (405) 324-3070
                                             gene_milligan at notes.seagate.com
SBP, MMC, MMC-2              Ron Roberts     (916) 677-5714
                                             rkroberts at aol.com
SBP-2                        Pete McLean     (303) 678-2149
                                             pete_mclean at maxtor.com
                      or     Peter Johansson (510) 531-5472
                                             pjohansson at aol.com
SIP, SCC, SCC-2              George Penokie  (507) 253-5208
                                             gop at rchvmp3.vnet.ibm.com
SMC                          Erich Oetting   (303) 673-2178
                                             Erich_Oetting at Stortek.com
SPC, SPC-2                   Ralph Weber     (972) 503-3205 x228
                                             roweber at acm.org
SSA-PH1,-PH2,-TL1,-TL2       Larry Lamers    (408) 957-7817
                                             ljlamers at aol.com
SSA-S2P & -S3P               John Scheible   (512) 823-8208
                                             Scheible at vnet.ibm.com
SSC                          Edward Lappin   (303) 938-8055
                                             tlappin at worldnet.att.net
Other Activities             John Lohmeyer   (719) 533-7560
                                             john.lohmeyer at symbios.com

Norm Harris moved that the dates for the March 1998 meeting be changed from
March 9-13, 1998 to March 16-20, 1998.  Charles Monia seconded the motion.
The motion passed unanimously.

The long-term T10 meeting week schedule is:

Date              Location                   Host/Comments
----------------  -------------------------  -------------------
Jan  6-10, 1997   Dallas, TX                 Quantum
Mar 10-14, 1997   San Diego, CA              QLogic
May  5-9,  1997   Natick, MA (near Boston)   Digital
Jul 14-18, 1997   Colorado Springs, CO       Symbios Logic
Sep  8-12, 1997   Nashua, NH                 Unitrode
Nov  3-7,  1997   Palm Springs, CA           Adaptec
Jan  5-9,  1998   Dallas, TX                 Quantum/location might change
Mar 16-20, 1998   San Diego, CA              QLogic/dates changed
May  4-8,  1998   Colorado Springs, CO       Symbios Logic
Jul 13-17, 1998   Portland, ME               Digital
Sep 14-18, 1998   St. Petersburg Beach, FL   AMP
Nov   2-6, 1998   Palm Springs, CA           Adaptec/dates changed

Proposed 1999 dates - we are requesting volunteers to host.
Date              Location                   Host/Comments
----------------  -------------------------  -------------------
Jan 11-15, 1999
Mar  8-12, 1999
May  3-7,  1999
Jul 12-16, 1999
Sep 13-17, 1999
Nov  8-12, 1999

14.1  Authorization of Working Group Meetings

John noted that the working group meetings are required to operate under the
same voting procedures as does T10 (that is, one vote per organization) and
the results of a working group are not binding on the parent committee.  This
later requirement is why we have traditionally only used non-binding straw
polls in working group meetings.  Any issue where the voting rules would make
a difference should be deferred to the plenary group.  Nonetheless, task
groups and ad hoc groups should strive to achieve consensus prior to bringing
issues to T10.

Mark Evans moved that T10 authorize the T10-related meetings and events in the
list above.  Norm Harris seconded the motion.  The motion passed unanimously.

15.   Adjournment

The meeting was adjourned at 5:33 p.m. on Thursday March 13, 1997.
Meeting Attendees -- Enclosure (1)

         Name          S        Organization         Electronic Mail Address
---------------------- -- ------------------------- -------------------------
Mr. Norm Harris        P  Adaptec, Inc.             nharris at eng.adaptec.com
Mr. Lawrence J. Lamers A  Adaptec, Inc.             ljlamers at aol.com
Mr. Charles Brill      P  AMP, Inc.                 cebrill at amp.com
Mr. Michael Wingard    P  Amphenol Interconnect     mikwingard at aol.com
Mr. Gary Porter        A  Ancot Corp.               garyp at ancot.com
Mr. Ron Roberts        A  Apple Computer            rkroberts at aol.com
Mr. Douglas Wagner     P  Berg Electronics          jpxw76a at prodigy.com
Mr. Richard Wagner     P  Cable Design Technologies rwagner at montrose-cdt.com
Mr. Gerry Johnsen      P  Ciprico Inc.              gerry at ciprico.com
Mr. Ian Morrell        P  Circuit Assembly Corp.    ianm at ca-online.com
Mr. Ken Wolfgang       P  Cirrus Logic Inc.         kenw at colorado.cirrus.com
Mr. Edward Haske       P  CMD Technology            haske at cmd.com
Mr. Peter Johansson    P  Congruent Software, Inc.  pjohansson at aol.com
Mr. Michael Smith      P  Dallas Semiconductor      mike.smith at dalsemi.com
Mr. Greg McSorley      P  Data General / Clariion   greg_mcsorley at dgc.ceo.dg.
                                                    com
Mr. Charles Monia      P  Digital Equipment Corp.   charles.monia at shr.mts.dec
                                                    .com
Dr. William Ham        A# Digital Equipment Corp.   ham at subsys.enet.dec.com
Mr. Douglas Hagerman   A# Digital Equipment Corp.   hagerman at starch.enet.dec.
                                                    com
Mr. Robert Reisch      P  Eastman Kodak Co.         reisch at kodak.com
Mr. I. Dal Allan       P  ENDL                      dal_allan at mcimail.com
Ms. Constance Kephart  P  Exabyte Corp.             conniek at exabyte.com
Mr. Joel Urban         P  Harting Elektronik
Ms. Martina Kuhlmeyer  A  Harting Elektronik Inc.   martinaku at aol.com
Mr. J. R. Sims         P  Hewlett Packard Co.       robsims at depeche.lvld.hp.
                                                    com
Mr. Nedi Nadershahi    P  Hitachi Micro Systems,    nnadersh at hmsi.com
                          Inc.
Mr. Anthony Yang       P  Hitachi Storage Products  yang_a at halsp.hitachi.com
Mr. Thomas J. Kulesza  P  Honda Connectors          mhotro at interaccess.com
Mr. George Penokie     P  IBM Corp.                 gop at rchvmp3.vnet.ibm.com
Mr. Dan Colegrove      A# IBM Corp.                 colegrove at vnet.ibm.com
Mr. Dennis Moore       P  KnowledgeTek, Inc.        dmoore at netcom.com
Mr. Louis Grantham     A  Linfinity Micro           lgdatcom at ix.netcom.com
Mr. Robert Bellino     P  Madison Cable Corp.       robert_bellino at madisonusa
                                                    .ccmail.compuserve.com
Mr. Pete McLean        P  Maxtor Corp.              pete_mclean at maxtor.com
Mr. Jay Neer           A  Molex Inc.                jneer at molex.com
Mr. Robin Freeze       P  Oak Technology, Inc.      RobinF at oaktech.com
Mr. Edward A. Gardner  P  Ophidian Designs          gardner at acm.org
Mr. Dan Davies         O  Overland Data Inc.        ddavies at ovrland.com
Mr. William P.         P  Philips Key Modules       BMcFerrin at aol.com
McFerrin
Mr. Skip Jones         P  QLogic Corp.              sk_jones at qlc.com
Mr. Mark Evans         A  Quantum Corp.             mevans at qntm.com
Mr. Gene Milligan      P  Seagate Technology        Gene_Milligan at notes.
                                                    seagate.com
Mr. Dave Guss          P  Silicon Systems, Inc.     dave.guss at tus.ssi1.com
Mr. Dennis Pak         P  Sony Electronics, Inc.    dennis_pak at asd.sel.sony.
                                                    com
Mr. Harvey Waltersdorf V  Specialty Electronics     hwaltersdorf at sec-intl.com
Mr. Erich Oetting      P  Storage Technology Corp.  erich_oetting at stortek.com
Mr. Robert N. Snively  P  Sun Microsystems Computer bob.snively at eng.sun.com
                          Co
Mr. John Lohmeyer      P  Symbios Logic Inc.        john.lohmeyer at symbios.com
Mr. Ralph O. Weber     A  Symbios Logic Inc.        roweber at acm.org
Mr. Brian McKean       A  SyQuest Technology, Inc.  brian.mckean at syquest.com
Mr. Pete Tobias        P  Tandem Computers          tobias_pete at tandem.com
Mr. Kenneth J. Hallam  P  UNISYS Corporation        ken.hallam at mv.unisys.com
Mr. Paul D. Aloisi     P  Unitrode Corporation      aloisi at unitrode.com
Mr. Jeffrey L.         P  Western Digital           jwilliam at wdroc.wdc.com
Williams                  Corporation
Mr. Devon Worrell      A  Western Digital           worrell at dt.wdc.com
                          Corporation
Mr. Doug Piper         P  Woven Electronics         doug.piper at internetmci.com
Mr. Arnold Limjoco     O  Yamaichi Electronics      arnold.l at yeu.com

56 People Present

Status Key:  P    -  Principal
             A,A# -  Alternate
             O    -  Observer
             L    -  Liaison
             V    -  Visitor

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