Draft Minutes of X3T10 Plenary Meeting #19
Lohmeyer, John
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X3, Information Technology
Doc. No.: X3T10/97-112r0
Date: January 15,
1997
Project:
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Reply to: John Lohmeyer
To: Membership of X3T10
From: Ralph Weber, Secretary X3T10
John Lohmeyer, Chair X3T10
Subject: Minutes of X3T10 Plenary Meeting #19
Dallas, TX -- January 9, 1997
Agenda
1. Opening Remarks
2. Approval of Agenda
3. Attendance and Membership
4. Approval of Minutes - November Meeting Palm Springs, CA
(X3T10/96-259r1)
5. Document Distribution
6. Call for Patents
7. Review of Old Action Items
8. Subgroup and/or Project Status Reports
8.1 Project Status Summary and X3/OMC Liaison [Lohmeyer]
8.2 X3T10.1 Task Group Report [Lamers]
8.3 SPI Amendment (SPIAmnd) {Project 0855-D} [Johansson/Lamers]
8.4 SCSI-3 Interlocked Protocol (SIP) Status {Project 856-D} [Penokie]
8.5 SCSI Common Access Method -3 (CAM-3) Status {Project 990-D} [Dallas]
8.6 SCSI-3 Serial Bus Protocol (SBP) Status {Project 992-D} [Roberts]
8.7 SCSI-3 Primary Commands (SPC) Status {Project 995-D} [Weber]
8.8 SCSI-3 Block Commands (SBC) Status {Project 996-D} [Milligan]
8.9 SCSI-3 Stream Commands (SSC) Status {Project 997-D} [Lappin]
8.10 SCSI-3 Graphics Commands (SGC) Status {Project 998-D} [Tewell]
8.11 SCSI-3 Medium Changer Commands (SMC) Status {Project 999-D}
[Oetting]
8.12 SCSI-3 Controller Commands (SCC) Status {Project 1047-D} [Penokie]
8.13 Multimedia Command Set (MMC) Status {Project 1048-D} [Roberts]
8.14 SCSI Parallel Interface - 2 (SPI-2) {Project 1142-D} [Ham]
8.15 SCSI Enhanced Parallel Interface (EPI) Technical Report {Project
1143-D}
[Ham]
8.16 SCSI Fibre Channel Protocol - 2 (FCP-2) {Project 1144-D} [Snively]
8.17 Boot Considerations Technical Report {Project 1154-DT} [Lamers]
8.18 Serial Bus Protocol - 2 (SBP-2) {Project 1155-D} [Johansson]
8.19 SCSI Architecture Model - 2 (SAM-2) {Project 1157-D} [Monia]
8.20 SCSI-3 Enclosure Commands (SES) {Project 1212-D} [Snively]
8.21 High Availability Profile (HAP) Technical Report {Project 1224-DT}
[Hagerman]
8.22 SCSI Controller Commands - 2 (SCC-2) {Project 1225-D} [Penokie]
8.23 Multimedia Command Set - 2 (MMC-2) Status {Project 1228-D} [Roberts]
8.24 SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (SPC-2) Status {Project 1236-D} [Weber]
8.25 SCSI-3 Transport over SBP-2 Status (STS) {Project xxxx-D}
[Johansson]
9. Old Business
9.1 Resolution of Letter Ballot Comments on Forwarding SES to First
Public
Review [Snively]
9.2 Resolution of Letter Ballot Comments on Forwarding SPI Amendment #1
to
First Public Review [Lamers]
10. New Business
10.1 Results of Letter Ballot on forwarding SBC to 1PR [Lohmeyer]
10.2 Actions on Working Group Recommendations
10.2.1 Forwarding 97-101r1 to IEEE as recommended tutorial [Snively]
10.2.2 SSC Partition Change Control (96-265r2) [Basham]
10.2.3 READ ELEMENT STATUS and Reservation Conflicts (96-267r2)
[Basham/Oetting]
11. ISO
11.1 ISO Report [Milligan]
12. Liaison Reports
12.1 X3T11 Liaison Report [Cummings]
12.2 X3T13 Liaison Report [Milligan]
12.3 SFF Industry Group [Allan]
12.4 IEEE 1394 [Johansson]
12.5 IEEE P1285 Status
12.6 IEEE P1596.8 Status
12.7 SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Jones/Grantham]
13. Review of Action Items
14. Meeting Schedule
14.1 Authorization of Working Group Meetings
15. Adjournment
Results of Meeting
1. Opening Remarks
John Lohmeyer, the X3T10 Chair, called the meeting to order at 1:00 p.m.,
Thursday January 9, 1997. He thanked Jim McGrath, Mark Evans, and Mary
Turco
of Quantum for hosting the meeting.
John said that X3 Subgroup Membership forms and the X3T10 Mailing
Subscription form were available from Larry Lamers or himself at the head
table. He said that people should use the X3 forms to insure the X3
Secretariat has the latest membership information. These forms should be
mailed directly to the X3 Secretariat.
As is customary, the people attending introduced themselves and a copy of
the
attendance list was circulated. Copies of the draft agenda and general
information on X3T10 were made available to those attending.
2. Approval of Agenda
The draft agenda was approved with the following additions:
10.2.1 Forwarding 97-101r1 to IEEE as recommended tutorial
10.2.2 SSC Partition Change Control (96-265r2) [Basham]
10.2.3 READ ELEMENT STATUS and Reservation Conflicts (96-267r2)
[Basham/Oetting]
3. Attendance and Membership
The membership requirements were reviewed. X3 rules permit one vote per
organization. An individual from a new organization must attend two out
of
three consecutive plenary meetings. He/she may apply for voting
membership
the second meeting via a letter to the Chair of X3T10. The individual
may
vote at the second plenary meeting. Working group meetings do not count
toward attendance requirements.
Organizations must also pay the X3 Service Fee ($300) to maintain
membership.
The ANSI International Program Fee (also $300) is billed at the same
time.
Three organizations were in jeopardy due to failure to return the last
two
sets of letter ballots (see 96-043). AMP returned all four of the
current
letter ballots and is no longer in jeopardy. FSI failed to return letter
ballot 96-045 so the FSI membership has been changed to observer status.
The
Philips KMG membership is still subject to termination depending on
whether
they return letter ballot 96-047 by January 21st.
The Chair said he had sent letters to 3 people from 2 organizations
informing
them that their membership was in jeopardy due to non-attendance (see
96-042r0) and that their membership would be terminated if they did not
attend this meeting. Both organizations were represented at this
meeting.
The following organizations applied for and received membership or a
reinstated membership at this meeting:
NEC
Amphenol
Cable Design Technologies
The X3T10 membership during the meeting was 49 organizations up from 47
organizations last time. Enclosure (1) is the list of the people present
at
the meeting and enclosure (2) is the current X3T10 membership list.
4. Approval of Minutes - November Meeting Palm Springs, CA
(X3T10/96-259r1)
The minutes were approved as written.
5. Document Distribution
Members who have any problems with their mailing subscription should deal
directly with Katrina Gray (kgray at itic.nw.dc.us) (202) 626-5741.
Larry Lamers requested that all documents for the next mailing be in his
hands in electronic format by 10:30 a.m. on Thursday January 16, 1997.
Documents received after this time will go into a subsequent mailing.
Larry Lamers reminded the committee of the requirements for document
submission to be included in the committee mailing. Since X3T10 meets
its
document archiving requirements by including the X3 Secretariat on the
mailing list, documents included in the mailing must be suitable for
archiving. This means that native-format electronic originals with
proper
identification must be submitted. Document X3T10/95-147 contains the
list of
requirements for submissions. Document X3T10/95-361r0 contains
instructions
for expeditious delivery of documents to Larry.
The electronic copies can be sent directly to Larry by email (at
ljlamers at corp.adaptec.com), placed on the SCSI BBS (719-533-7950), or
they
can be transferred by ftp protocol to ftp.symbios.com and placed in the
/pub/standards/io/incoming directory. In the latter two cases, please
also
send an email to Larry (at ljlamers at aol.com) informing him of the exact
file
name and location of the file.
As usual, minutes are also available on the SCSI BBS (719-533-7950) and
will
be distributed to the SCSI Reflector.
To be added to the SCSI Reflector, send an email to majordomo at symbios.com
with the line 'subscribe scsi' in the message body. The X3 Secretariat
maintains a World Wide Web page at http://www.x3.org/. Symbios Logic
maintains a World Wide Web page on behalf of X3T10 at
http://www.symbios.com/x3t10/.
The current document register is enclosure (3).
Peter Johansson requested that the CD contain copies of all committee
documents, including copies of draft documents that have not been revised
since the previous mailing and other historical material. John and Larry
described the challenges of carrying the historical material forward from
one
mailing to the next. Larry noted that the CD mailing contents for last
year
were financed in part by Adaptec, which used the results of Larry's
efforts
internally. Adaptec has changed its internal methods and changed Larry's
job
description.
The committee discussed the requirements and available options. After a
brief discussion, the committee agreed to discuss these issues off-line
between now and the next plenary meeting.
6. Call for Patents
This is a regular agenda item to identify any potential patent issues
with
developing standards.
A document is available from ANSI, "Procedures for the Development and
Coordination of American National Standards", at no charge. This
document is
also on the WWW at http://www.x3.org/help/ansi_sdo.html. Annex I
contains
the ANSI patent policy. Amy Marasco manages patent issues for ANSI and
can
be contacted at amarasco at ansi.org or 212-642-4954.
Charles Monia informed the committee of the issuance of patent 5,586,272
to
Digital Equipment Corporation on 17 December 1996. Charles noted his
personal opinion that the patent contains information required to
implement
SCAM and is titled "Asynchronous Data Transfer Among a Plurality of
Computing
Devices". Charles announced that Digital intends to comply with the ANSI
patent policy. Charles Monia was given an action item to discover the
full
terms and conditions Digital intends to apply to the patent 5,586,272,
provide a letter to X3T10 stating a belief on the part of Digital that
the
patent must be infringed in order to comply with portions of SPI and
stating
that Digital intends to comply with the ANSI patent policy.
Gene Milligan noted that the disclosure of this patent will affect the
patent
statement on the SPI Amendment.
7. Review of Old Action Items
180) Larry Lamers will prepare revision 2 of the SPI Amendment.
Completed
181) Roger Cummings will send an email to B. Elliston regarding the
proposal
for transporting IP over SCSI. Completed
182) John Lohmeyer will forward 96-255 to X3 for processing as an
amendment
for project 1155-D. Completed
183) John Lohmeyer will forward 96-256 to X3 for processing toward the
creation of a new project. Completed
184) Ron Roberts will prepare MMC revision 9. Completed
185) John Lohmeyer will forward MMC revision 9 to X3 for further
processing
toward first public review. Completed
186) John Lohmeyer will communicate to X3 that X3T10 recommends the
withdrawal of X3.146:1986[R1992]. Completed
187) John Lohmeyer will inform X3 that X3T10 recommends withdrawal of
1154-DT, Boot Considerations Technical Report. Completed
188) Bob Snively will complete definition of the usage of IEEE company
identifiers in FC-PH. Completed
189) Bob Snively will prepare a tutorial for FC usage of IEEE company
identifiers. Completed
190) Bob Snively will prepare a tutorial for SCSI usage of IEEE company
identifiers. Completed
191) Gene Milligan will continue ISO Fast Track processing of CAM.
Continuing
192) Gene Milligan will send a favorable response to the proposed SCSI-2
corrigendum. Overtaken by events
193) John Lohmeyer will add reconsideration of SCSI-2 based on the
corrigendum to the agenda for the next general SCSI working group
meeting.
Completed
194) John Lohmeyer will add a plenary agenda item for a IEEE P1596.8
Liaison
Report. Completed
195) Gene Milligan editor will generate SBC revision 7. Completed
196) John Lohmeyer will conduct a letter ballot on SBC revision 7 for
forwarding to first public review. Completed
197) Ralph Weber editor will generate SPC revision 11. Completed
198) John Lohmeyer will generate response letters to the people who
submitted public review comments on SPC revision 11. Completed
199) John Lohmeyer will forward SPC revision 11 to X3 for further
processing
toward second public review assuming no other comments are received.
Completed
200) Bob Snively will generate SES revision 8. Completed
8. Subgroup and/or Project Status Reports
8.1 Project Status Summary and X3/OMC Liaison [Lohmeyer]
John Lohmeyer said that the current X3T10 project status summary was
included
in the X3T10 Information Packages and will be included in the mailing as
usual.
John noted that the X3 WWW pages are becoming more useful. They contain
X3
and OMC agendas, press releases, and other information that committee
members
may find useful. The press releases are particularly useful for tracking
the
progress of work X3T10 forwards to X3.
John reported that his term as Chair will expired in June and described
to
the committee the process for applying to Chair X3T10 (see 97-007). John
explained that the call for Vice-chair, familiar to those with long
service
on the committee, is not being made this time as a result of a change in
the
rules. Henceforth, the Vice-chair serves at the pleasure of the Chair.
Roger Cummings noted the lack of a call for IR and stated that X3 is in
the
process of staggering IR and Chair renewals.
8.2 X3T10.1 Task Group Report [Lamers]
Larry Lamers, the X3T10.1 Chair, reported that no X3T10.1 meetings have
been
held since the last X3T10 plenary meeting.
8.3 SPI Amendment (SPIAmnd) {Project 0855-D} [Johansson/Lamers]
John Lohmeyer reported that revision 2 of the SPI amendment was in the
last
committee mailing. John noted that there were no negative votes cast on
the
letter ballot to forward the amendment for first public review.
Larry Lamers reported that George Penokie identified a missing reference
in
clause 7 and revision 3 of the amendment has been created. A sentence
says
"see (blank)" and should contain a reference to the definition of the
term
'reserved.'
Gene Milligan reminded the committee that the patent statement will need
to
be changed based on the patent recently disclosed by Digital. He
expressed
concern about changing the patent statement until a letter concerning
licensing is received from Digital. After a brief discussion, the
committee
agreed that the patent statement should not be changed at this time.
8.4 SCSI-3 Interlocked Protocol (SIP) Status {Project 856-D} [Penokie]
John Lohmeyer reported that the X3 letter ballot for final publication of
SIP
closes on the 27th of January.
8.5 SCSI Common Access Method -3 (CAM-3) Status {Project 990-D} [Dallas]
No report.
8.6 SCSI-3 Serial Bus Protocol (SBP) Status {Project 992-D} [Roberts]
John Lohmeyer reported that the X3 letter ballot on SBP closed on 13
December, but he could not find the results of the ballot on the X3 web
site.
John stated the belief that SBP should be ready to go to BSR.
8.7 SCSI-3 Primary Commands (SPC) Status {Project 995-D} [Weber]
John Lohmeyer reported that SPC had been approved at X3 should be
entering
second public review soon.
8.8 SCSI-3 Block Commands (SBC) Status {Project 996-D} [Milligan]
Gene Milligan reported the working group resolved the letter ballot
comments
on SBC. He noted that acting on the working group report is planned for
later in this meeting.
8.9 SCSI-3 Stream Commands (SSC) Status {Project 997-D} [Lappin]
Ted Lappin reported on the actions of the SSC/SMC working group regarding
SSC
(minutes in 97-125). He noted that plenary action is required on one SSC
proposal, later in this meeting. He reported that the target date for
forwarding SSC is no later than July 1997.
8.10 SCSI-3 Graphics Commands (SGC) Status {Project 998-D} [Tewell]
John Lohmeyer reported that X3 has withdrawn this project as requested by
X3T10. This agenda item will be removed from future agendas.
8.11 SCSI-3 Medium Changer Commands (SMC) Status {Project 999-D}
[Oetting]
Erich Oetting reported on the actions of the SSC/SMC working group
regarding
SSC (minutes in 97-125). He noted that plenary action is required on one
SMC
proposal, later in this meeting. He reported that the target date for
forwarding SMC is no later than September 1997.
Erich reported that the only known open issue in SMC concerns field sizes
of
some identifier values in the READ ELEMENT STATUS data.
8.12 SCSI-3 Controller Commands (SCC) Status {Project 1047-D} [Penokie]
George Penokie reported a belief that SCC has gone to BSR and Roger
Cummings
confirmed his belief. John Lohmeyer stated that there should be a press
release soon.
8.13 Multimedia Command Set (MMC) Status {Project 1048-D} [Roberts]
Ron Roberts reported that the MMC first public review closes on 18
February
1997.
8.14 SCSI Parallel Interface - 2 (SPI-2) {Project 1142-D} [Ham]
John Lohmeyer reported on the SPI-2 working group meeting (minutes
97-110).
8.15 SCSI Enhanced Parallel Interface (EPI) Technical Report {Project
1143-D}
[Ham]
John Lohmeyer reported that EPI was discussed for several hours during
the
general working group meeting (minutes 97-111).
8.16 SCSI Fibre Channel Protocol - 2 (FCP-2) {Project 1144-D} [Snively]
Bob Snively reported that no activity has occurred on FCP-2 yet. He
anticipates starting work later this year. It was noted that working
group
action may result in definition of an additional mode page in FCP-2.
8.17 Boot Considerations Technical Report {Project 1154-DT} [Lamers]
John Lohmeyer reported that withdrawal of the project is under
consideration
at X3.
8.18 Serial Bus Protocol - 2 (SBP-2) {Project 1155-D} [Johansson]
Peter Johansson reported the SBP-2 working group believes that the
asynchronous sections of SBP-2 are ready for stabilization. Peter
Johansson
moved that sections 1 through 10 and Annexes A and B of SBP-2 revision 1g
with the exception of clauses 4.5, 5.1.2.2, 5.1.3, 6.5, and 8.2.2 be
accepted
as stable by X3T10. Pete McLean seconded the motion. The motion passed
30:0:0:19=49.
8.19 SCSI Architecture Model - 2 (SAM-2) {Project 1157-D} [Monia]
Charles Monia reported that no progress has been made on SAM-2, due to
work
on the ISO version of SAM.
8.20 SCSI-3 Enclosure Commands (SES) {Project 1212-D} [Snively]
Bob Snively reported that revision 8 of SES has been published and
reviewed.
Several editorial comments have been received from Ralph Weber against
revision 8. All outstanding issues have been resolved and the
resolutions
for the comments made by Ralph are considered non-substantive by the
editor
and person making the comments. (See agenda item 9.1.)
8.21 High Availability Profile (HAP) Technical Report {Project 1224-DT}
[Hagerman]
Doug Hagerman reported on the working group discussion of HAP (minutes in
97-111). He noted that an editorial review meeting is scheduled for
later
this week. He indicated that a revised draft may not be available in
time
for the next committee mailing.
8.22 SCSI Controller Commands - 2 (SCC-2) {Project 1225-D} [Penokie]
George Penokie reported that the SCC-2 working group has reached
agreement on
all the major proposals for SCC-2 (minutes 97-113). He stated that a
revision of SCC-2 will be prepared for consideration at the next working
group meeting. He indicated that a letter ballot vote should be
anticipated
in May.
8.23 Multimedia Command Set - 2 (MMC-2) Status {Project 1228-D} [Roberts]
The working group completed the review of the documents presented. The
editor
is to provide an initial revision of the MMC-2 draft standard for review
at
the March meeting. The draft is to be placed on the ftp site at Symbios
Logic
the last week of February.
The next meeting will be during the X3T10 week in March in San Diego.
8.24 SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (SPC-2) Status {Project 1236-D} [Weber]
Ralph reported that creation of the FrameMaker source files for SPC-2 has
been started. The SPC revision 11 text and tables have been converted to
Frame up to but not including the INQUIRY command. He stated the belief
that
the conversion will be completed by March, or May at the latest.
8.25 SCSI-3 Transport over SBP-2 Status (STS) {Project xxxx-D}
[Johansson]
John Lohmeyer reported that approval of the STS project proposal is under
consideration at X3. At the request of Gene Milligan, John described STS
as
the project that describes how to transport SCSI commands over the SBP-2
protocol. The new project is needed because SBP-2 has been made
independent
of the command protocol being transported and can transport AT, ATAPI,
SCSI,
and possibly other command protocols.
9. Old Business
9.1 Resolution of Letter Ballot Comments on Forwarding SES to First
Public
Review [Snively]
Bob Snively moved that SES revision 8 as revised (revision 8a) be
accepted as
resolving the letter ballot comments on SES, that the editor be
instructed to
prepare revision 8a, and that the chair be instructed to forward revision
8a
to X3 for processing toward first public review. Charles Monia seconded
the
motion. The motion passed 30:0:0:19=49.
Bob Snively took an action item to prepare SES revision 8a. John
Lohmeyer
took an action item to forward SES revision 8a to X3 for processing
toward
first public review.
9.2 Resolution of Letter Ballot Comments on Forwarding SPI Amendment #1
to
First Public Review [Lamers]
Charles Monia moved that X3T10 accept SPI Amendment revision 3 as
addressing
the letter ballot comments and instructing the chair to forward the SPI
Amendment revision 3 to X3 for processing toward first public review. Ed
Gardner seconded the motion. On a roll-call vote, the motion passed
31:0:0:18=49. The results of the roll-call vote were as follows:
Organization S Name Yes No Abs NP
Adaptec, Inc. P Mr. Norm Harris 1
Amdahl Corp. 1
AMP, Inc. 1
Amphenol Interconnect P Mr. Michael Wingard 1
Ancot Corp. 1
Apple Computer A Mr. Ron Roberts 1
Berg Electronics P Mr. Douglas Wagner 1
Cable Design Technologie s P Mr. Richard Wagner 1
Ciprico Inc. 1
Circuit Assembly Corp. 1
CMD Technology 1
Congruent Software, Inc. P Mr. Peter Johansson 1
Dallas Semiconductor A Mr. Siegfried Schmalz 1
Digital Equipment Corp. P Mr. Charles Monia 1
Distributed Processing Tech. P Mr. Roger Cummings 1
Eastman Kodak Co. P Mr. Robert Reisch 1
ENDL P Mr. I. Dal Allan 1
Exabyte Corp. P Mr. Edward Lappin 1
Fujitsu Computer Products,Am 1
Hewlett Packard Co. P Mr. J. R. Sims 1
Hitachi Cable Manchester,Inc P Mr. Zane Daggett 1
Honda Connectors 1
IBM Corp. P Mr. George Penokie 1
Iomega Corp. P Mr. Geoffrey Barton 1
KnowledgeTek, Inc. P Mr. Dennis Moore 1
Linfinity Micro P Mr. Dean Wallace 1
Madison Cable Corp. 1
Maxtor Corp. P Mr. Pete McLean 1
Molex Inc. 1
NEC Electronics, Inc. P Mr. E. Jake Berzon 1
Oak Technology, Inc. 1
Ophidian Designs P Mr. Edward A. Gardner 1
Panasonic Technologies, Inc 1
Philips Key Modules P Mr. William P. McFerrin 1
QLogic Corp. 1
Quantum Corp. A Mr. Mark Evans 1
Seagate Technology P Mr. Gene Milligan 1
Silicon Systems, Inc. 1
Sony Electronics, Inc. 1
Storage Technology Corp. P Mr. Erich Oetting 1
Sun Microsystems Computer Co P Mr. Robert N. Snively 1
Symbios Logic Inc. P Mr. John Lohmeyer 1
SyQuest Technology, Inc. 1
Tandem Computers A Mr. Pete Tobias 1
Toshiba America P Mr. Tokuyuki Totani 1
UNISYS Corporation A Mr. Arlan P. Stone 1
Unitrode Corporation P Mr. Paul D. Aloisi 1
Western Digital Corporation P Mr. Jeffrey L. Williams 1
Woven Electronics 1
31 0 0 18
Larry Lamers stated that revision 3 already has been prepared. John
Lohmeyer
took an action item to forward the SPI Amendment revision 3 to X3 for
processing toward first public review.
10. New Business
10.1 Results of Letter Ballot on forwarding SBC to 1PR [Lohmeyer]
John Lohmeyer reported that the letter ballot on forwarding SBC passed
43:1:0:3=47. Comments were received with five of the votes, including
the
one negative vote. The letter ballot itself can be found in 96-045.
Details
of the letter ballot results can be found in 97-004.
Gene Milligan reviewed the substantive comments resolutions actions taken
by
the working group (97-123).
Gene noted that resolution of issue regarding definition of Pin 2 in the
Flexible Disk Geometry mode page is open, pending comment from Digital
Equipment Corporation. Gene informed the committee that anyone wishing
to
state an opinion on this open question should contact himself or Charles
Monia by 27 January 1997.
Based on the resolution of the SBC letter ballot comments, George Penokie
asked that the IBM letter ballot vote be changed from no to yes.
Gene Milligan moved that X3T10 approve the responses to the letter ballot
comments as documented in X3T10/97-123, instruct the SBC editor to
incorporate the resolutions in a revision 8 of SBC, and instruct the
chair to
forward the SBC revision 8 to X3 for further processing toward first
public
review. Charles Monia seconded the motion.
Charles Monia took an action item to report the Digital instructions
regarding the Flexible Disk Geometry mode page to the SBC editor. Gene
Milligan took an action item to generate revision 8 of SBC based on the
agreed resolution to the letter ballot comments. John Lohmeyer took an
action item to forward SBC revision 8 to X3 for processing toward first
public review.
10.2 Actions on Working Group Recommendations
10.2.1 Forwarding 97-101r1 to IEEE as recommended tutorial [Snively]
Based on the unanimous recommendation of the working group, Bob Snively
moved
that X3T10 offer document X3T10/97-101r1 to IEEE as the tutorial for
usage of
the IEEE company id in SCSI applications. Charles Monia seconded the
motion.
During discussion of the motion, Gene Milligan recommended that changes
be
considered for SPC-2 to demonstrate a preference for the identifier
format
described in 97-101r1. However, the motion was not changed. The motion
passed 30:0:0:19=49.
Bob Snively took an action item to forward 97-101r1 to IEEE under cover
of a
letter authorized by the X3T10 chair, and to copy the chair and the
committee document archive.
10.2.2 SSC Partition Change Control (96-265r2) [Basham]
Robert Basham presented a proposal whose effect would be optionally
moving
changes in tape partitioning from the MODE SELECT command to the FORMAT
MEDIUM command (96-265r2). Based on the unanimous recommendation of the
SSC/SMC working group, Robert Basham moved that X3T10 approve 96-265r2
for
inclusion in SSC. Ted Lappin seconded the motion. The motion passed
unanimously.
10.2.3 READ ELEMENT STATUS and Reservation Conflicts (96-267r2)
[Basham/Oetting]
Robert Basham presented a proposal whose effect would be allowing the
processing of those READ ELEMENT STATUS commands needed to determine
system
configuration regardless of outstanding reservations. Based on the
unanimous
recommendation of the SSC/SMC working group, Robert Basham moved that
X3T10
approve 96-267r2 for inclusion in SSC. Bob Snively seconded the motion.
Bob
then raised objections to the non-specific nature of the proposal.
Robert
and Erich Oetting agreed to return the proposal to the working group for
consideration oriented toward resolving Bob's concerns. The motion was
withdrawn.
11. ISO
11.1 ISO Report [Milligan]
Gene Milligan, the X3T10 International Representative, provided the
following
electronic report:
As a reminder the TAG comments, if any, should close on large number of
CD
ballots on X3T11 projects 3/7/97. For a list of these refer to the
November
minutes or scan the attached document list.
JTC 1 has issued guidelines for the creation and maintenance of standards
web
servers and web pages.
As far as the IR has been able to determine, IEC TC 100 has not responded
and
perhaps has not considered the liaison statement sent to them concerning
the
relationship with SC 25/WG 4. However updated drafts of the TC 100 new
Strategic Policy Statement and an overview of TC100 standards and
projects
was received.
For those interested in customer premises cabling, a call for volunteers
for
the Chair and Secretary of the SC25/WG3 TAG has been issued with a
closing
date of 2/1/97.
Dr. Kovacs has issued an official announcement of Juergen Maergner, of
IBM
Germany, as the WG 4 Secretariat.
Although the delegations had prepared extensively for proposed JTC 1
reorganization, the Chair apparently ducked the topic during the plenary
at
the December Paris meeting.
With the assumption that the reorganization will go ahead and that it
will
result in a grouping of the present SC 6, SC 25, and SC 26 scopes, IEEE
802
is campaigning to take over the TAG and TAG secretariat responsibility
for
this new group from IEC and X3. I have been in contact with Jim Carlo and
we
have agreed (not on the takeover but if it should occur) that the MOU
grouping of T10, T11, and T12 would continue as the TAG for the projects
under the scope now held by SC 25/WG 4.
An updated second half of 1996 ISO document register is attached to this
report.
DOC_NO ORIG_DATE DESCRIPTION
=========== ========== ================================================
SC25N310 96/07/05 Approved Resolutions of 6th SC25 Plenary
X3T11/IR 96/07/06 Transmittal of CD IPI-3 Disk, IPI-4 Tape, HIPPI
-FC, HIPPI-Serial, HIPPI-ATM, HIPPI-SC
X3T11/IR 96/07/06 Transmittal of CD FC-AL, FC-SB, FC-PH-2,
FC-PH-3,
FC-GS, & FC-FP
T159/4N372 96/07/11 Guidelines for Implementation of Vienna Agree
1N4172 96/07/29 Response to N3996 Relationship with Regional
Workshops on Open Systems
25N311 96/08/06 Draft Minutes SC 25 London Meeting
IR96020 96/08/15 LB to fast track X3.232:1996 SCSI CAM
1N4190 96/08/23 Creation & Maintenance of Web Servers & Pages
IR96014 96/08/27 Editor's report and DIS 9314-6 FDDI SMT Text
IR96015 96/08/27 Editor's report and DIS 9314-7 FDDI PHY-2 Txt
IR96016a 96/08/27 Editor's report and DIS 9314-8 FDDI MAC-2 Txt
IR96016b 96/09/02 Yes vote with comment CD 9314-20 FDDI PMD-ATS
IR96017 96/09/02 Yes vote CD 9314-21 FDDI PHY-ATS
IR96018 96/09/02 Yes vote CD 9314-26 FDDI MAC-ATS
IR96019 96/09/02 Liaison statement to IEC TC 100
IR96021 96/09/19 Editors report and DIS9314-25 FDDI SMT-ATS Te
25N324 96/09/23 CD 9318-4 IPI 3 Tape Closes 3/31/97 (3/7 X3)
25N325 96/09/23 CD 11518-8 HIPPI-ATM closes 3/31/97 (3/7 X3)
25N326 96/09/23 CD 14165-121 FC-AL closes 3/31/97 (3/7 X3)
25N327 96/09/23 CD 14165-121 FC-SB closes 3/31/97 (3/7 X3)
25N328 96/09/23 CD 14165-112 FC PH-2 closes 3/31/97 (3/7 X3)
25N329 96/09/23 CD 14165-113 FC-PH-3 closes 3/31/97 (3/7 X3)
25N330 96/09/23 CD 14165-211 Mapping to HIPPI-FP (FC-FP)
Closes 3/31/97 (3/7 X3)
25N331 96/09/23 CD 11518-9 HIPPI-SE closes 3/31/97 (3/7 X3)
25N332 96/09/23 CD 14165-411 FC-GS closes 3/31/97 (3/7 X3)
von Pattay 96/10/10 Request for distribution of DIS 9314-25
FDDI SMT-ATS for 4 month ballot
von Pattay 96/10/11 What happened to von Pattay's comments on
CD 9314-13 FDDI CT-PICS
25N336 96/10/15 Resolution of Comments CD 9314-25
IR96022 96/10/18
IR96023 96/10/18 Acceptance of liaison on IEEE P1596.8
Parallel Connection to SCI & 1394.2
JT96-0444 96/10/18 JTC 1 TAG 1997 Budget and Fees
TC100/29A 96/11 Draft new Strategic Policy Statement
TC100/33 96/11 Overview of standards and projects
CPC/96-057 96/12/05 Call for volunteers - SC25/WG3 TAG 2/1/97
CPC/96-058 96/12/05 Call for volunteers Secretary SC25/WG3 TAG
CPC/96-060 96/12/05 SC25 TAG Chair's responsr to SC25 POW
Kovacs 96/12/19 Announcement of Juergen Maergner as WG 4
Secretariat
12. Liaison Reports
12.1 X3T11 Liaison Report [Cummings]
Roger Cummings, X3T11 Chair, delivered an oral report and provided the
following electronic report:
X3T11 met on December 4, 1996 with 110 people in attendance. National
Semiconductor lost membership. Corning, Exabyte, Siecor & Tensolite were
added as a new member organizations. The membership of X3T11 is now 74
organizations.
It was reported that an X3 Letter Ballot on HIPPI-PH reaffirmation
(X3.183-1991) passed on 9/20/96, that a ballot on the 10-bit Interface TR
closes on 12/16/96, and that ballots on the final approvals of dpANS for
the
Revised HIPPI- SC, SBCON, FC-PH-2, HIPPI-ATM and HIPPI Serial projects
will
close on January 14, 1997.
The following project proposals were reported as having been approved:
# NAME
755-M FC-PH:DAM2
1230-DT Methodology of Jitter Specification
1231-D HIPPI-6400-SC
1232-D FC-SL
1235-DT FC-FLA
It was reported that a first Public Review for X3.303-199x, FC- PH-3
(Project
1119-D) will take place from 12/20/96 to 2/18/97.
By a roll-call vote of F60-O00-DNV14, X3T11 voted to recommend that
ANSI X3.129-1986[R1992] IPI Physical (IPI-1PH)
ANSI X3.201-1992, IPI Enhanced Physical (EIPI-1PH)
ANSI/ISO 9318-2:1992 IPI Device Specific Disk (IPI-2D)
NOT be reaffirmed. X3T11 also voted F50-O00-DNV24 to forward a Project
Proposal for a revision to ANSI X3.210-1992, HIPPI Framing Protocol
(HIPPI-FP) for further processing. All votes met the two-thirds rule.
X3T11 also formally accepted an offer by the Fibre Channel Loop Community
(FCLC) trade association to fund the creation of a merged document
containing
specifications from the current FC-PH, FC-PH Amendments, FC-PH-2 and
FC-PH-3.
It was also approved in principle a restructuring of the FC-PH
definitions
into separate documents along functional lines (FC levels), and imposed a
self-moratorium on project proposals on FC-PH topics while this
restructuring
is being formalized. A temporary document was established to hold
accepted FC
proposals during the period of the moratorium, including proposal for
future
loop functionality which will proceed toward technical stabilization by
10/97.
A postponed motion on a proposal from the Fibre Channel Loop Community
(FCLC), requesting the assignment of a code point to allow them to
establish
a service to provide unique FC identifiers, was approved, as were two
similar
motions to assign code points for proposed IEEE Registered and IEEE
Registered Extended formats.
It was agreed that time would be set aside at the February Plenary for
presentations on low cost connectors by three connector manufacturers,
providing that presentation materials had been mailed to X3T11
Principals,
Alternates and Observers before 1/14/97.
X3T11 voted F45-O00-DNV29 to request that Project 956-D (FC- IG) be
withdrawn.
The next meeting of X3T11 is being hosted by hosted by Bob Snively of Sun
Microsystems during the week of February 3, 1997 at the Red Lion Hotel,
2050
Gateway Place, San Jose, CA 95110. The telephone number is (408)453-4000.
The
Plenary meeting is on Wednesday, February 5. Interim study and ad hoc
meetings have been approved for:
HIPPI 1/8-9 Phoenix, AZ
FC-SL and Loop Futures 1/6-7 Dallas, TX
Jitter Study 1/9-10 Colorado Springs, CO
FC-AV 1/7 Portland, OR
as well as the usual meetings during the X3T11 Plenary week.
12.2 X3T13 Liaison Report [Milligan]
Gene Milligan provided the following electronic report:
X3T13 had an ad hoc meeting on 13-15 November at Western Digital in
Irvine.
The group reviewed: D96104R9 ATA Overlap Proposal; D97104R0 Proposed
changes
to Ultra DMA; D97103R0 Physical interface test procedures; D96153R2 Ultra
DMA
Rev 2; D96157R0 Reset changes from the working group; X3T13/1226DT EDD
Rev 2;
and X3T13/1153D Rev 7 ATA/ATAPI-4.
A letter has been sent to Oak regarding questions relating to any
potential
patents and ATA/ATAPI-4. An answer has not been received.
A page by page review of Enhanced BIOS Disk Drive Technical Report -
Project
1226DT was conducted with several editorial changes noted. Security Erase
[Colegrove] (D96156)
Dan Colegrove stated that he and Prof. Schultz had not successfully made
contact to complete clarifications on the requirements.
Tom Hanan presented a document on physical interface testing used by WD.
He
stated that a test board has been developed to ensure consistency of
results
and these will be made available to the industry.
Complications of accommodating IDENTIFY DRIVE DMA with the Ultra DMA mode
in
ATA/ATAPI-4 were discussed. By unanimous consent it was decided to
obsolete
IDENTIFY DRIVE DMA.
The CHS translation should report the same maximum address as set in LBA.
This means that there would appear to be an 'orphaned' track. Pete McLean
volunteered to propose a resolution to this issue.
Totani-san requested that a statement that the host shall not infer
device
status based upon the DASP signal be added. There was unanimous consent
to
add a statement that the DASP signal may be unsychronized with command
execution.
It was agreed that there is no distinction between ATA and ATAPI
regarding
the device 0/1 protocol.
The technical content of MSN 1.03 was accepted as the basis for a
proposal
suitable for inclusion in ATA-4 including a recommendation on related
items
to obsolete.
Devon Worrell agreed to document the ATAPI LUN requirements based upon
current ATAPI specifications.
Alan Longo described several issues he had with the wording of the reset
requirements. His discussion pointed out a potential need for a minimum
off
time for SRST and pointed out problems with on-off-on reset cycles. It
was
agreed that currently the minimum low 'off' time is one memory write
cycle.
European Patent Application Number 95201658.2
The Chair summarized the letter that he had sent to Oak Technology.
The resultant new Open Issues were:
1) Enhanced FDPT signature of A0h.
2) Driver types and required pull-ups for Ultra DMA.
3) Minimum cleared time for SRST.
Pete McLean and Devon Worrell are working out an identify Word 73
ambiguity
between ATA and ATAPI devices.
The Disk Boys are being asked to submit a project proposal at the
January ad
hoc for a X3T13 Tailgate project.
The next plenary meeting of X3T13 will be January 24, 1997 at the Seagate
facility, in San Jose, CA hosted by Seagate. Although the meeting
announcement shows a starting time of 0900, in view of the heavy work
load
the ad hoc unanimously agreed to change the starting time to 1300 to
allow
another half day for the ad hoc work.
The next working group meeting will be January 22-24, 1997 at the Seagate
facility in San Jose hosted by Seagate.
The long term meeting schedule is:
Date Location Host Contact
February 18-21, 1997 Fort Collins, CO Symbios Logic Mike Winchell
March 19-21, 1997 San Jose, CA Seagate Marc Noblitt
12.3 SFF Industry Group [Allan]
Dal Allan provided the following report:
The SFF Committee completed its two major working tasks of completing
SCA-2
and VHDCI for balloting. Both passed with minor comments and unless the
changes requested have more technical content than anticipated, the next
ballot will be for Publication.
The initial contact on pursuing the 2-56 jackscrew standardization at IEC
has
still failed to respond, which is not untypical of IEC.
SFF-8090 for DVD (Digital Video Disc) was approved as a project, and is
holding its SSWGs in Japan and the U.S.
There are concerns that the 2mm connector as used on 1.8", 2 1/2", and
other
drives is still not specified well enough to ensure interoperability
without
high insertion forces. Several changes that were recommended in the
meeting
will be incorporated in the next revision.
The members voted in favor of sending a letter to the European Patent
Office
identifying known prior art which existed at companies at the time work
began
on SFF-8020 and earlier work on EATA for CAM.
A change in meeting schedule was requested. The SSWGs will begin at 1300
on
Wednesday and the plenary at 1700 on Wednesday. If it suits the host for
the
next X3T10 meeting week, SFF would like this to take effect in March.
12.4 IEEE 1394 [Johansson]
Peter Johansson reported that a draft for P1394.a will be available at
the
committee meeting next week. He described the P1394.a contents as a
grab-bag
of incremental improvements to 1394. P1394.b continues to meet weekly at
Apple and continues to work on backplane extensions for 1394. P1394.2
continues work on very high performance revisions to 1394.
12.5 IEEE P1285 Status
No report was available.
Gene Milligan noted that no response has been received to his letter
ballot
comments.
12.6 IEEE P1596.8 Status
Gene Milligan noted that X3T10 is official liaison to P1596.8. He stated
a
belief that P1596.8 concerns the chip interface to things that drive
"the"
serial bus. He noted that the purpose of liaison would be to guarantee
that
X3T10 is informed when the standard is balloted.
12.7 SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Jones/Grantham]
Louis Grantham reported that STA met this morning. He listed the trade
shows
that STA plans to attend on behalf of SCSI.
13. Review of Action Items
201) Charles Monia will discover the full terms and conditions Digital
intends to apply to the patent 5,586,272, provide a letter to X3T10
stating a
belief on the part of Digital that the patent must be infringed in order
to
comply with portions of SPI and stating that Digital intends to comply
with
the ANSI patent policy.
202) John Lohmeyer will forward the SPI Amendment revision 3 to X3 for
processing toward first public review.
203) Charles Monia will report the Digital instructions regarding the
Flexible Disk Geometry mode page to the SBC editor by 31 January 1997.
204) Gene Milligan will generate revision 8 of SBC based on the agreed
resolution to the letter ballot comments.
205) John Lohmeyer will forward SBC revision 8 to X3 for processing
toward
first public review.
206) Bob Snively will prepare SES revision 8a.
207) John Lohmeyer will forward SES revision 8a to X3 for processing
toward
first public review.
208) Bob Snively will forward 97-101r1 to IEEE under cover of a letter
authorized by the X3T10 chair, and copy the chair and the committee
document
archive.
14. Meeting Schedule
The next plenary meeting of X3T10 will be March 13, 1997 in San Diego, CA
at
the Hyatt Islandia Hotel (619-224-1234), hosted by QLogic Corp. The
meeting
will begin at 1:00 p.m. on Thursday.
The meeting list for the next plenary week is:
March '97 Meeting Map
(1/9/97 Version)
Monday 3/10 8 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
+===========================================+
| SPI-2 Working Group |
(20)
+===============================+===========+
| SBP-2 Working Group |
(25)
+===============================+-----------+
| Fibre Channel WG |
(40)
+-------------------------------------------+
Tuesday 3/11 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+===========================================+
| SCSI-3 WG (EPI topics are Tuesday am) |
(40)
+===================================+=======+
| MMC WG |
(20)
+===============+===============+===+
| SCC/RAB WG | RAB |
(25)
+===============+---------------+
|Fibre Channel |
(40)
+---------------+
Wednesday 3/12 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+===============================+-------+
| SCSI-3 WG |STATech|
(40)
+===============================+---+---+
| MMC Working Group |
(20)
+===============+===================+---+
| SFF SSWGs | SFF |
(40)
+---------------+---------------+-------+-------+
| RAB |
(25)
+-----------------------------------------------+
Thursday 3/13 8 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+===========================+
| X3T10 Plenary Meeting |
(70)
+===============+===========================+
| SSC/SMC WG |
(15)
+=+===============+---------------+
| STA |
(30)
+---------------------------------+
Friday 3/14 8 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5
+========================================+
| Document Review (SMC) |
(10)
+========================================+
Meetings marked with == are X3T10 authorized meetings.
Meetings marked with -- are authorized by other groups and may change
without notice.
Meeting Map Abbreviation Key:
Amnd: Amendment
CAM: Common Access Method
CAM-3: Next generation CAM for SCSI-3
Diskboys: Industry group studying disk attachment via IEEE 1394
EPI: SCSI Enhanced Parallel Interface (Technical Report)
Fast-20: Synchronous Data Transfer at 20 Megatransfers/second
FC-AL: Fibre Channel - Arbitrated Loop (an X3T11 project)
FCLC: Fibre Channel Loop Community (not an X3 activity)
I/F: Interface
HAP: High Availability Profile (Technical Report)
High Avail.: High Availability
LB: Letter Ballot
MMC: SCSI-3 Multimedia Commands (CD-ROM)
PH: Physical (Connectors, Cables, Transceivers, etc.)
Plenary: Full Committee Meeting
RAB: RAID Advisory Board (not an X3 activity)
RAID: Redundant Array of Independent Devices
SBC: SCSI-3 Block Commands
SBP: SCSI-3 Serial Bus Protocol
SBP-2: Serial Bus Protocol for IEEE 1394 (2nd generation)
SCC: SCSI-3 Controller Commands (RAID)
SCSI: Small Computer System Interface
SES: SCSI Enclosure Services
SPC: SCSI-3 Primary Commands
STA: SCSI Trade Association (not an X3 activity)
STATech: STA Technical Meeting (X3T10 members invited)
STS: SCSI Transport via SBP-2
SFF: SFF Industry Group (not an X3 activity)
SG: Study Group
SMC: SCSI-3 Medium Changer Commands
SPI-2: Second Generation SCSI-3 Parallel Interface
SSA: Serial Storage Interface
SSC: SCSI-3 Stream Commands (includes Tape)
SSWGs: Specific-Subject Working Groups
VHDCI Very High Density Cabled Interconnect
WG: Working Group (same as Ad Hoc Group)
X3T10: Lower Level Interfaces Technical Committee
X3T10.1: SSA Task Group of X3T10
Several other X3T10 events are also planned:
Event Date(s) Location/contact
-------------------- --------------------
--------------------------------
SPI-2 Working Group 2/6/97 San Jose, CA (with X3T11)
SPI-2 Working Group 4/10/97 Palm Springs, CA (with X3T11)
MMC Working Group 1/30-31/97 Irvine, CA / meeting cancelled
SBP-2 Working Group 1/20-21/97 San Jose, CA / Seagate
SBP-2 Working Group 2/17/97 Fort Collins, CO / Symbios
Logic
For more information about X3T10 activities, please contact the following
people:
Activity Contact Telephone/Email
---------------------------- ---------------
------------------------------
CAM-3 Bill Dallas (603) 881-2508
dallas at wasted.enet.dec.com
EPI & SPI-2 Bill Ham (508) 841-2629
ham at subsys.enet.dec.com
FCP-2 Robert Snively (415) 336-5332
Bob.Snively at eng.sun.com
GPP Gary Stephens (602) 321-1725
6363897 at mcimail.com
SAM & SAM-2 Charles Monia (508) 841-6757
monia at starch.enet.dec.com
SBC Gene Milligan (405) 324-3070
gene_milligan at notes.seagate.c
om
SBP and MMC Ron Roberts (916) 677-5714
rkroberts at aol.com
SBP-2 Pete McLean (303) 678-2149
pete_mclean at maxtor.com
or Peter Johansson (510) 531-5472
pjohansson at aol.com
SIP, SCC George Penokie (507) 253-5208
gop at rchvmp3.vnet.ibm.com
SMC Erich Oetting (303) 673-2178
Erich_Oetting at Stortek.com
SPC Ralph Weber (972) 733-3594
roweber at acm.org
SSA-PH1,-PH2,-TL1,-TL2 Larry Lamers (408) 957-7817
ljlamers at aol.com
SSA-S2P & -S3P John Scheible (512) 823-8208
Scheible at vnet.ibm.com
SSC Edward Lappin (303) 447-7718
tedl at exabyte.com
Other Activities John Lohmeyer (719) 533-7560
john.lohmeyer at symbios.com
The long-term X3T10 meeting week schedule is:
Date Location Host/Comments
---------------- ------------------------- -------------------
Jan 6-10, 1997 Dallas, TX Quantum
Mar 10-14, 1997 San Diego, CA QLogic
May 5-9, 1997 Natick, MA (near Boston) Digital
Jul 14-18, 1997 Colorado Springs, CO Symbios Logic
Sep 8-12, 1997 Nashua, NH Unitrode
Nov 3-7, 1997 Palm Springs, CA Adaptec
1998 dates are firm; locations and hosts are accepted, but tentative
Jan 5-9, 1998 Dallas, TX Quantum/location might
change
Mar 9-13, 1998 San Diego, CA QLogic
May 4-8, 1998 Colorado Springs, CO Symbios Logic
Jul 13-17, 1998 Portland, ME Digital
Sep 14-18, 1998 St. Petersburg Beach, FL AMP
Nov 2-6, 1998 Palm Springs, CA Adaptec/dates changed
14.1 Authorization of Working Group Meetings
John noted that the working group meetings are required to operate under
the
same voting procedures as does X3T10 (that is, one vote per organization)
and
the results of a working group are not binding on the parent committee.
This
later requirement is why we have traditionally only used non-binding
straw
polls in working group meetings. Any issue where the voting rules would
make
a difference should be deferred to the plenary group. Nonetheless, task
groups and ad hoc groups should strive to achieve consensus prior to
bringing
issues to X3T10.
Peter Johansson moved that X3T10 authorize the X3T10-related meetings and
events in the list above. Erich Oetting seconded the motion. The motion
passed 22:1:0:26=49 Gene Milligan described his opposition as being
based on
the overlap between the SPI-2 meeting and the Fibre Channel meeting.
15. Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 4:51 p.m. on Thursday January 9, 1997.
Meeting Attendees -- Enclosure (1)
Name S Organization Electronic Mail
Address
---------------------- -- -------------------------
-------------------------
Mr. Norm Harris P Adaptec, Inc.
nharris at eng.adaptec.com
Mr. Lawrence J. Lamers A Adaptec, Inc. ljlamers at aol.com
Mr. Michael Wingard P Amphenol Interconnect mikwingard at aol.com
Mr. Ron Roberts A Apple Computer rkroberts at aol.com
Mr. Douglas Wagner P Berg Electronics jpxw76a at prodigy.com
Mr. Richard Wagner P Cable Design Technologies
rwagner at montrose-cdt.com
Mr. Chi Wang O Cirrus Logic Inc. cwang at corp.cirrus.com
Mr. Peter Johansson P Congruent Software, Inc. pjohansson at aol.com
Mr. Michael Smith P Dallas Semiconductor msmith at dalsemi.com
Mr. Siegfried Schmalz A Dallas Semiconductor schmalz at dalsemi.com
Mr. Rick Hardy O Denron, Inc. rhardy at denron.com
Mr. Charles Monia P Digital Equipment Corp. monia at shr.dec.com
Mr. Douglas Hagerman A# Digital Equipment Corp.
hagerman at starch.enet.dec.
com
Mr. Roger Cummings P Distributed Processing
cummings_roger at dpt.com
Tech.
Mr. Robert Reisch P Eastman Kodak Co. reisch at kodak.com
Mr. I. Dal Allan P ENDL dal_allan at mcimail.com
Mr. Edward Lappin P Exabyte Corp. tedl at exabyte.com
Mr. Joel Urban O Harting Elektronik
Mr. J. R. Sims P Hewlett Packard Co.
robsims at depeche.lvld.hp.
com
Mr. Anthony Yang O Hitachi America Ltd.
yang_a at halsp.hitachi.com
Mr. Zane Daggett P Hitachi Cable
zdaggett at hcm.hitachi.com
Manchester,Inc
Mr. Kirk Rogers V Hitachi Cable
krogers at hcm.hitachi.com
Manchester,Inc
Mr. Nedi Nadershahi O Hitachi Micro Systems, nnadersh at hmsi.com
Inc.
Mr. George Penokie P IBM Corp.
gop at rchvmp3.vnet.ibm.com
Mr. Dan Colegrove A# IBM Corp.
colegrove at vnet.ibm.com
Mr. Robert Basham O IBM Corp. robbyb at vnet.ibm.com
Mr. Dennis Moore P KnowledgeTek, Inc. dmoore at netcom.com
Mr. Dean Wallace P Linfinity Micro
75671.3443 at compuserve.com
Mr. Pete McLean P Maxtor Corp.
pete_mclean at maxtor.com
Mr. Jay Neer A Molex Inc. jneer at molex.com
Mr. E. Jake Berzon P NEC Electronics, Inc.
jberzon at asic.mtv.nec.com
Mr. Edward A. Gardner P Ophidian Designs gardner at acm.org
Mr. William P. P Philips Key Modules BMcFerrin at aol.com
McFerrin
Mr. Skip Jones P QLogic Corp. sk_jones at qlc.com
Mr. Mark Evans A Quantum Corp. mevans at qntm.com
Mr. Gene Milligan P Seagate Technology Gene_Milligan at notes.
seagate.com
Mr. Erich Oetting P Storage Technology Corp.
erich_oetting at stortek.com
Mr. Robert N. Snively P Sun Microsystems Computer
bob.snively at eng.sun.com
Co
Mr. John Lohmeyer P Symbios Logic Inc.
john.lohmeyer at symbios.com
Mr. Ralph O. Weber A Symbios Logic Inc. roweber at acm.org
Mr. Pete Tobias A Tandem Computers
tobias_pete at tandem.com
Mr. Tokuyuki Totani P Toshiba America totani at ix.netcom.com
Mr. Arlan P. Stone A UNISYS Corporation
arlan.stone at mv.unisys.com
Mr. Paul D. Aloisi P Unitrode Corporation aloisi at unitrode.com
Mr. Jeffrey L. P Western Digital
jwilliam at wdroc.wdc.com
Williams Corporation
Mr. Doug Piper P Woven Electronics
doug.piper at internetmci.
com
46 People Present
Status Key: P - Principal
A,A# - Alternate
O - Observer
L - Liaison
V - Visitor
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Symbios Logic Inc. Voice: 719-533-7560
4420 ArrowsWest Dr. Fax: 719-533-7036
Colo Spgs, CO 80907-3444 SCSI BBS: 719-533-7950 300--14400 baud
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