Minutes of X3T10 Plenary Meeting #14 - 3/14/96
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Minutes of X3T10 Plenary Meeting #14 in San Diego, CA X3T10/96-139 r0
Accredited Standards Committee*
X3, Information Technology
Doc. No.: X3T10/96-139 r0
Date: March 20, 1996
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John Lohmeyer, Chair X3T10
Subject: Minutes of X3T10 Plenary Meeting #14
San Diego, CA -- March 14, 1996
Agenda
1. Opening Remarks
2. Approval of Agenda
3. Attendance and Membership
4. Approval of Minutes - January Meeting Dallas, TX (X3T10/96-110r1)
5. Document Distribution
6. Call for Patents
7. Review of Old Action Items
8. Subgroup and/or Project Status Reports
8.1 Project Status Summary and X3/OMC Liaison [Lohmeyer]
8.2 X3T10.1 Task Group Report [Lamers]
8.3 SCSI Common Access Method (CAM) {Project 792-D} [Dallas]
8.4 SCSI-3 Parallel Interface (SPI) Status {Project 855-D} [Lamers]
8.5 SCSI-3 Interlocked Protocol (SIP) Status {Project 856-D}
[Penokie]
8.6 SCSI Common Access Method -3 (CAM-3) Status {Project 990-D}
[Dallas]
8.7 SCSI-3 Generic Packetized Protocol (GPP) Status {Project 991-DT}
[Stephens]
8.8 SCSI-3 Serial Bus Protocol (SBP) Status {Project 992-D}
[Roberts]
8.9 SCSI-3 Fiber Channel Protocol (FCP) Status {Project 993-D}
[Snively]
8.10 SCSI-3 Architecture Model (SAM) Status {Project 994-D} [Monia
8.11 SCSI-3 Primary Commands (SPC) Status {Project 995-D} [Weber
8.12 SCSI-3 Block Commands (SBC) Status {Project 996-D} [Milligan]
8.13 SCSI-3 Stream Commands (SSC) Status {Project 997-D} [Lappin]
8.14 SCSI-3 Graphics Commands (SGC) Status {Project 998-D} [Tewell
8.15 SCSI-3 Medium Changer Commands (SMC) Status {Project 999-D}
[Oetting]
8.16 SCSI-3 Controller Commands (SCC) Status {Project 1047-D}
[Penokie]
8.17 Multimedia Command Set (MMC) Status {Project 1048-D} [Roberts]
8.18 SCSI-3 Fast-20 Parallel Interface (Fast-20) {Project 1071-D}
[Lamers]
8.19 SCSI Parallel Interface - 2 (SPI-2) {Project 1142-D} [Ham]
8.20 SCSI Enhanced Parallel Interface (EPI) Technical Report
{Project 1143-D} [Ham]
8.21 SCSI Fibre Channel Protocol - 2 (FCP-2) {Project 1144-D}
[Snively]
8.22 Boot Considerations Technical Report {Project 1154-DT}
[Penman]
8.23 SCSI-3 Serial Bus Protocol 2 (SBP-2) {Project 1155-D}
[Johansson]
8.24 SCSI Architecture Model - 2 (SAM-2) {Project 1157-D [Monia]
8.25 SCC-2 Study Group [Penokie]
9. Old Business
9.1 Results of letter ballot on forwarding SIP
10. New Business
10.1 Results of SSA-PH1 and SSA-TL2 Letter Ballots (96-008, 96-009)
10.2 Results of SSA-S2P Letter Ballot (96-010)
10.3 Results of SPC Letter Ballot (96-012)
10.4 Actions on Working Group Recommendations
10.4.1 Software Write Protect addition in SPC [Houlder/Milligan]
10.4.2 Block Granularity in SSC [Lappin]
10.4.3 High Availability Profile Project Proposal [Hagerman]
10.5 SCSI-3 Enclosures Services (SES) Project Proposal [Snively]
10.6 Obsolescence vs. Baggage [Milligan]
11. ISO
11.1 ISO Report [Milligan]
11.2 Approval of SC 25/WG 4 Delegation
11.3 Instructions to Delegation to SC 25/WG 4
11.4 SSA ISO/IEC NWIs
11.5 SSA ISO/IEC CD Contributions
11.6 SIP ISO/IEC NWI
11.7 SIP ISO/IEC CD Contribution
11.8 Clarification of international program fee [Allan]
11.9 Results of Letter Ballot 96-014 on recommended response to NWI
N 3862 [Milligan]
11.10 SPI Amendment to ISO
12. Liaison Reports
12.1 X3T11 Liaison Report [Cummings]
12.2 X3T13 Liaison Report [Milligan]
12.3 SFF Industry Group [Allan]
12.4 IEEE 1394 [Marazas]
12.5 IEEE P1285 Status
12.6 PCMCIA Report []
12.7 SCSI Trade Association (STA)
13. Review of Action Items
14. Meeting Schedule
14.1 Authorization of Working Group Meetings
15. Adjournment
Results of Meeting
1. Opening Remarks
John Lohmeyer, the X3T10 Chair, called the meeting to order at 1:03 p.m.,
Thursday March 14, 1996. He thanked Skip Jones of QLogic Corp. for hosting
the meeting.
John said that X3 Subgroup Membership forms and the X3T10 Mailing
Subscription form were available on the document table. He said that
people should use the X3 forms to insure the X3 Secretariat has the latest
membership information. These forms should be mailed directly to the X3
Secretariat.
As is customary, the people attending introduced themselves and a copy of
the attendance list was circulated. Copies of the draft agenda and general
information on X3T10 were made available to those attending.
2. Approval of Agenda
The draft agenda was approved with the following changes and additions:
Changes:
8.25 SCC-2 Study Group [Penokie]
Additions:
10.4.1 Software Write Protect addition in SPC [Houlder/Milligan]
10.4.2 Block Granularity in SSC [Lappin]
10.4.3 High Availability Profile Project Proposal [Hagerman]
10.5 SCSI-3 Enclosures Services (SES) Project Proposal [Snively]
10.6 Obsolescence vs. Baggage [Milligan]
11.10 SPI Amendment to ISO
3. Attendance and Membership
The membership requirements were reviewed. X3 rules permit one vote per
organization. An individual from a new organization must attend two out of
three consecutive plenary meetings. He/she may apply for voting membership
the second meeting via a letter to the Chair of X3T10. The individual may
vote at the second plenary meeting. Working group meetings do not count
toward attendance requirements.
Organizations must also pay the X3 Service Fee ($300) to maintain
membership. The ANSI International Program Fee (also $300) is billed at
the same time.
The Chair said he had sent letters to 9 people from 3 organizations
informing them that their membership was in jeopardy due to non-attendance
(see 96-003r0) and that their membership would be terminated if they did
not attend this meeting. All organizations were represented at this
meeting except:
NEC Technologies
Trimm Technologies
Organizations not present were `terminated' (that is, the principal was
changed to observer and the first alternate was dropped. Any additional
alternates were changed to observer status).
Since Madison Cable was bought by AMP on February 28, 1996, their members
have been added to AMP's membership. The day after the last plenary
meeting, the chair received an email from Alan Olson resigning the 3M
membership. Since Conner Peripherals was purchased by Seagate, their
members have been added to Seagate's membership, per instructions from Gene
Milligan (the Seagate principle representative).
John reported that Maxtor was purchased by Hyundai. He described a
discussion with Jean-Paul Emard, the Director of the X3 Secretariat. Even
though both Symbios Logic and Maxtor are owned by Hyundai, the two
organizations are separately incorporated with separate boards of
directors. Therefore, both organizations can be (and are) separate members
of X3T10.
One new organization joined X3T10 at the meeting: KnowledgeTek (Dennis
Moore)
The X3T10 membership during the meeting was at 47 organizations down from
50 organizations last time.
Chair's note: The week following the meeting, Katrina Gray informed the
chair that Hitachi Cable is a separate organization from the other Hitachi
organizations. She changed Zane Daggett from an additional alternate for
Hitachi to the Principal from Hitachi Cable. Apparently, some of the other
Hitachi members may also be able to obtain separate membership, however no
changes were made due to jeopardy concerns. X3T10 membership is now at 48
organizations.
Enclosure (1) is the list of the people present at the meeting and
enclosure (2) is the current X3T10 membership list.
4. Approval of Minutes - January Meeting Dallas, TX (X3T10/96-110r1)
The minutes were approved as written.
5. Document Distribution
Members who have any problems with their mailing subscription should deal
directly with Katrina Gray (kgray at itic.nw.dc.us) (202) 626-5741.
Larry Lamers requested that all documents for the next mailing be in his
hands by 10:30 a.m. on Thursday March 21, 1996. Documents received after
this time will go into a subsequent mailing.
Larry Lamers reminded the committee of the requirements for document
submission to be included in the committee mailing. Since X3T10 meets its
document archiving requirements by including the X3 Secretariat on the
mailing list, documents included in the mailing must be suitable for
archiving. This means that native-format electronic originals with proper
identification must be submitted. Document X3T10/95-147 contains the list
of requirements for submissions. Document X3T10/95-361r0 contains
instructions for expeditious delivery of documents to Larry.
The electronic copies can be emailed directly to Larry (at
ljlamers at corp.adaptec.com), placed on the SCSI BBS (719-574-0424), or they
can be ftp'd to ftp.symbios.com and placed in the
/pub/standards/io/incoming directory. In the latter two cases, please also
send an email to Larry (at ljlamers at aol.com) informing him of the exact
file name and location of the file.
As usual, minutes are also available on the SCSI BBS (719-574-0424) and
will be distributed to the SCSI Reflector. John noted that the SCSI BBS
will be getting a new phone number around mid-April. The new phone number
will be announced at the old BBS phone number for several months after the
move.
To be added to the SCSI Reflector, send an email to majordomo at symbios.com
with the line 'subscribe scsi' in the message body. The X3 Secretariat
maintains a World Wide Web page at http://www.x3.org. Symbios Logic
maintains a World Wide Web page on behalf of X3T10 at
http://www.symbios.com/x3t10.
The current document register is enclosure (3).
6. Call for Patents
This is a regular agenda item to identify any potential patent issues with
developing standards.
A document is available from ANSI, "Procedures for the Development and
Coordination of American National Standards", at no charge. Annex I
contains the ANSI patent policy.
Gene Milligan reported that he had received an additional letter from
Compaq Computer regarding their hard disk security patent.
Gene Milligan reported that he has received no additional information
regarding a patent policy for Technical Reports (if any). John Lohmeyer
noted that he has not received any information either.
7. Review of Old Action Items
116) Gene Milligan will document the usage of the 0Dh mode page code in
SBC as per the wishes of X3T10 expressed in item 10.6 of the
meeting #10 minutes. Complete.
131) John Lohmeyer will request that the X3 Secretariat pay the editing
services invoice. Complete.
132) Ralph Weber will change the SftRe bit in the standard INQUIRY data
to vendor-specific. Complete.
133) John Lohmeyer will forward the SPI amendment project proposal to X3
for further processing. Complete.
134) Peter Johansson will write detailed comments on the defects in
Annexes B and D of SPI Rev 15A by the March meeting. Complete
135) Ron Roberts will supply the summary of substantive changes between
SBP R19 and R22 to the IR by 3/18/96. Complete
136) Bob Snively will supply the summary of substantive changes between
FCP R10 and R12 to the IR by 3/18/96.
8. Subgroup and/or Project Status Reports
8.1 Project Status Summary and X3/OMC Liaison [Lohmeyer]
John Lohmeyer said that the current X3T10 project status summary was
included on the backs of the meeting agendas and will be included in the
mailing as usual.
8.2 X3T10.1 Task Group Report [Lamers]
Larry Lamers, acting X3T10.1 chair, provided the following written report,
which was read to the committee.
X3T10.1 Report to X3T10 and SSA-IA -- February 29, 1996
Lawrence J. Lamers, Chair X3T10.1 (acting)
X3T10.1 met in Stateline, NV, Wednesday February 28, 1996 with 26 people
present. Membership is now at 23 voting organizations.
The X3T10 letter ballot comments on SSA-PH1, SSA-TL1, and SSA-S2P were
resolved and approved. The comment resolution and revised working drafts
have been submitted to X3T10 for their approval.
A draft of a delta document to the first generation SSA is planned
containing the current thinking on 40 MB/sec topics. This document will
serve as input for the SSA-PH2 working draft.
Work on the second generation standards will begin in earnest at the next
meeting.
The next plenary meeting of X3T10.1 will be May 1, 1996, in South
Burlington, VT at the Ramada Inn & Conference Center, South Burlington, VT,
hosted by IBM, Phone: (802) 658-0250. The meeting will begin at 3:00 p.m.
The next working group meeting of X3T10.1 is scheduled for April 29-May 1,
1996. A study group on S3P plans to meet on Sunday, April 28, 1996 at 1:30
p.m. A study group on Enclosures plans to meet on Thursday, May 2, 1996 at
9:00 am. A PH2 working group has been authorized in the event it is
needed.
8.3 SCSI Common Access Method (CAM) {Project 792-D} [Dallas]
John Lohmeyer reported that CAM was approved by BSR on February 5, 1996.
It will be X3.232:1996.
8.4 SCSI-3 Parallel Interface (SPI) Status {Project 855-D} [Lamers]
Larry Lamers reported that Andrew Hubbard is preparing the camera ready
copy of SPI at ANSI. The ANSI editors located a date error on one of the
ASME standards. The referenced ASME standard was superseded by a newer
standard. It was reported that new ASME standard requires some different
symbols. The difference raised concerns that the connector drawings in
SPI would not conform to the new ASME standard. After some frantic phone
calls, it was determined that the new ASME standard will require minor
changes in the connector drawings. The nature of the changes was described
to the committee.
Bob Snively moved that the SPI project editor be authorized to work with
the ANSI editor to resolve the editorial issues raised by the new ASME
standard, including perhaps revising the affected figures. Gary Porter
seconded the motion. Several committee members noted that the SPI project
editor should avoid redrawing the figures, if possible. The motion passed
32:0:0:15=47.
George reported a concern with table 9, describing DB8-15 and DBP(1) in the
P Cable description. Information in the table can be viewed as conflicting
with the text in section 10.11.3. George reported that a working group
discussion agreed that the table defines the actions of the transmitter,
while the text concerns the signals as observed by receivers. As such, it
was agreed that both the table and the text are correct as written. George
raised concerns that the text does not clearly state that it applies to
receivers. George took an action item to write a document describing his
concerns so that they can be addressed in SPI-2.
Peter Johansson reviewed the material planned for the SPI Amendment. He
noted that several Annex B and Annex D changes have been reviewed several
times, and are understood and needed changes. He then described an
editorial oversight in Annex B, reported by Chris Burns (from Adaptec).
Larry noted that this matter is covered in document 96-147.
Peter presented a description of a missing "not" in the description of
reselection that had been identified by Gerry Houlder. Larry noted that
this matter is covered by document 96-144.
Larry took an action item to prepare an amendment document including
all the problems needing correction for review and consideration at the May
meeting.
8.5 SCSI-3 Interlocked Protocol (SIP) Status {Project 856-D}
[Penokie]
George Penokie reported that the mailing contained SIP revision 9, which
incorporated all the letter ballot comments. He described some minor
changes the resulted in revision 9a, and were discussed in the SCSI working
group. George noted plans to forward SIP revision 9a to X3 for further
processing towards first public review later in the meeting.
8.6 SCSI Common Access Method -3 (CAM-3) Status {Project 990-D}
[Dallas]
John reported that a draft document is ready for review in CAM-3. John
noted that no one (other than the project editor) attended the working
group meeting.
8.7 SCSI-3 Generic Packetized Protocol (GPP) Status
{Project 991-DT} [Stephens]
John reported that the GPP Technical Report is ready to be published
by ANSI. John informed the committee that this item will be removed from
the next meeting agenda.
8.8 SCSI-3 Serial Bus Protocol (SBP) Status {Project 992-D}
[Roberts]
John reported that SBP is in second public review and the review ends
on April 30, 1996.
8.9 SCSI-3 Fiber Channel Protocol (FCP) Status {Project 993-D}
[Snively]
John reported that FCP is at BSR for final approval.
8.10 SCSI-3 Architecture Model (SAM) Status {Project 994-D} [Monia]
John reported that SAM is at BSR for final approval.
8.11 SCSI-3 Primary Commands (SPC) Status {Project 995-D} [Weber]
Ralph reported on requests for meeting authorizations to work on SPC. An
editing meeting is requested for April 17, 18. A review meeting is
requested for 3:30 pm on Monday, May 6, 1996. Ralph also noted that good
progress was made toward resolving the letter ballot comments at the SCSI
working group meeting.
8.12 SCSI-3 Block Commands (SBC) Status {Project 996-D} [Milligan]
Gene Milligan reported that revision 2 has been distributed. Highlights of
the changes were reviewed at the SCSI Working Group. Detailed technical
issues were reviewed up to page 40 at the SCSI Working Group meeting.
Gene Milligan reported that the working group recommended that revision 2
be accepted at the current working draft of SBC and he moved that the
committee accept the working recommendation. The motion passed
unanimously.
8.13 SCSI-3 Stream Commands (SSC) Status {Project 997-D} [Lappin]
Ted Lappin reported that six people attend the SSC/SMC working group
meeting. He described interest in the communications device model, the
first such interest Ted has seen. Ted solicited input from anyone
interested in communications devices or printers.
8.14 SCSI-3 Graphics Commands (SGC) Status {Project 998-D} [Tewell
John reported that no progress has been made on SGC. John asked that
anyone interested in scanner commands notify him of their desire to edit
the document or make significant proposals. John informed the committee
that unless progress is made on SGC, he will propose this project be
discontinued at the September plenary meeting.
8.15 SCSI-3 Medium Changer Commands (SMC) Status {Project 999-D}
[Oetting]
Erich Oetting reported that SMC revision 5 was in the last mailing. He
described conflicts between SMC and MMC for moving media, but expressed the
belief that a resolution of the conflicts might be possible. Erich
described efforts to relax the medium changer device model to accommodate
stackers, which can be viewed as media changes that have no storage
elements.
8.16 SCSI-3 Controller Commands (SCC) Status {Project 1047-D}
[Penokie]
John reported that SCC is at BSR for final approval.
8.17 Multimedia Command Set (MMC) Status {Project 1048-D} [Roberts]
Ron Roberts reported that the working group reviewed MMC revision 5 page-by-
page and completed 64 pages. No new proposals were received and Ron
expressed satisfaction with this change from past working group meetings.
He noted that he expects to request a forwarding letter ballot to first
public review following the May plenary meeting.
Ron described for the following working group schedule of meetings:
April 22, 23, & 24, 1996 Bay Area
*meeting on 4/25 is a joint meeting with X3T13 to review
ATAPI commands.
May 7 & 8, 1996 Ft Lauderdale
June 17, 18, & 19, 1996 Irvine (WD) with X3T13 on 6/19
8.18 SCSI-3 Fast-20 Parallel Interface (Fast-20) {Project 1071-D}
[Lamers]
Larry Lamers reported that no news has been received from ANSI
regarding BSR approval (although it has only been there a couple weeks).
8.19 SCSI Parallel Interface - 2 (SPI-2) {Project 1142-D} [Ham]
Bill Ham reported that the working held an interesting and intense meeting
on Monday of this meeting week. He described the document as nearly
technically stable.
Bill noted that the receivers need a higher level of signal intensity under
some conditions. After a long string of zeros (about three bit times), the
transition to one needs more signal strength than expected. A similar
problem occurs with one-to-zero transitions. He described the effect as
being like a capacitance effect, but not necessarily the result of
capacitance.
Bill also noted that halving the device capacitance gives a dramatic
improvement in signal performance. He described the need for a digital
glitch filter (see the SPI-2 working group minutes, 96-134).
8.20 SCSI Enhanced Parallel Interface (EPI) Technical Report {Project
1143-D} [Ham]
Bill Ham reported that revision 5 of the EPI document has been distributed
and reviewed. The major addition at this week's working group was
information regarding TERMPWR management and requirements. The minutes of
the EPI working group can be found in document 96-135.
8.21 SCSI Fibre Channel Protocol - 2 (FCP-2) {Project 1144-D}
[Snively]
Bob reported that insufficient work exists to proceed on FCP-2 at
this time. He described plans to start working on FCP-2 later this year.
8.22 Boot Considerations Technical Report {Project 1154-DT} [Penman]
John reported that Duncan Penman is willing to continue editing the boot
considerations document. The goal is produce a technical report. It may
be necessary to hire an editor to convert the document to proper technical
report format. John noted that Duncan feels that the technical content of
the document is stable and ready for forwarding.
8.23 SCSI-3 Serial Bus Protocol 2 (SBP-2) {Project 1155-D}
[Johansson]
Peter Johansson reported that July will be the target for the first draft
of SBP-2.
8.24 SCSI Architecture Model - 2 (SAM-2) {Project 1157-D [Monia]
Charles reported that he will bring list of changes for SAM-2 to the
May meeting.
8.25 SCC-2 Study Group [Penokie]
George reported on the high availability issues meetings. As a result of
that discussion, it was decided that a universal identification field needs
to be added to several commands, also new reporting commands were
discussed, and new commands for removing a drive were discussed. The
meeting discussed the need to start an SCC-2 project. The minutes of the
meeting can be found in document 96-142.
George reported that the working group agreed to generate a project
proposal for SCC-2. John Lohmeyer took an action item to generate a draft
SCC-2 project proposal.
George reported that the next meeting will be during the May meeting week.
9. Old Business
9.1 Results of letter ballot on forwarding SIP
George Penokie reported all issues raised by the letter ballot have been
resolved. The comments resolution document is 96-120. George Penokie
moved that the resolution document be accepted as resolving the letter
ballot comments and that the committee accept SIP revision 9a for
forwarding to X3 for first public review. Gene Milligan seconded the
motion. The motion passed 32:0:0:15=47.
Gene Milligan requested that his no vote on revision 8 to a yes vote on
revision 9a.
John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward SIP revision 9a to X3 for
processing toward first public review.
10. New Business
10.1 Results of SSA-PH1 and SSA-TL2 Letter Ballots (96-008, 96-009)
Larry Lamers described the letter ballot results and comments resolution
process for the SSA documents.
Questions were raised regarding the Digital "no" vote on the SSA-TL1
comments resolution. Charles described his concern regarding an
implementor's note that describes past SSA implementations that do not work
under specific circumstances defined in the note. Charles expressed the
belief that such notes were inappropriate in a standard. Greg Kapraun
described the need for the implementor's note and the majority X3T10.1
belief that the note is needed.
Ted Lappin questioned the letter ballot results. He noted that he returned
all his letter ballots. The problems with FAX ballots were discussed
briefly. The ballot totals were corrected to reflect Ted's Yes votes.
Larry Lamers moved that X3T10 accept document 96-131r0 as the comments
resolution for the letter ballot comments on SSA-PH1 and that SSA-PH1
revision 9 be accept as resolving the comments. The motion passed
32:0:0:15=47. John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward SSA-PH1
revision 9 to X3 for further processing toward first public review.
Larry Lamers moved that X3T10 accept document 96-132r0 as the comments
resolution for the letter ballot comments on SSA-TL1 and that SSA-TL1
revision 10 be accept as resolving the comments. The motion passed
31:1:0:15=47. Charles Monia gave the implementor's notes described above
as the reason for his negative vote. John Lohmeyer took an action item to
forward SSA-TL1 revision 10 to X3 for further processing toward first
public review.
10.2 Results of SSA-S2P Letter Ballot (96-010)
Larry Lamers moved that X3T10 accept document 96-133r0 as the comments
resolution for the letter ballot comments on SSA-S2P and that SSA-S2P
revision 7 be accept as resolving the comments. The motion passed
32:0:0:15=47. John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward SSA-S2P
revision 7 to X3 for further processing toward first public review.
10.3 Results of SPC Letter Ballot (96-012)
John Lohmeyer reported that the SPC forwarding ballot had passed
39:3:0:7=49. The detailed balloting results are in 96-020 r1. The working
group made progress in addressing the comments received and an editing
session was been scheduled for April 17-18 in the San Jose area. Gene
Milligan of Seagate plans to host the meeting. Additionally, a review
session was scheduled to begin at 3:30 pm on May 6 in Ft. Lauderdale.
10.4 Actions on Working Group Recommendations
10.4.1Software Write Protect addition in SPC [Houlder/Milligan]
Gene Milligan presented a brief review of 96-121r2, a proposal that adds a
software write protect bit to the control mode page. Based on the working
group's recommendation, Gene Milligan moved that 96-121r2 be approved for
inclusion in the documents that it references. Erich Oetting seconded the
motion. The motion passed 32:1:0:14=47.
10.4.2Block Granularity in SSC [Lappin]
Ted Lappin presented his proposal (96-114) to include granularity limits in
support block sizes for stream devices (tapes). Based on the working
group's recommendation, Ted moved that 96-114r1 be approved for inclusion
in SSC. Skip Jones seconded the motion. The motion passed 33:0:0:14=47.
10.4.3High Availability Profile Project Proposal [Hagerman]
Doug Hagerman presented a project proposal for a high availability concepts
in SCSI parallel bus systems (96-151). The group discussed the proposal
and suggested improvements. Based on the relaxed time requirements of the
proposal, it was decided to edit the proposal, distributed it in the
mailing, and vote to send the proposal to X3 at the next plenary meeting.
John Lohmeyer took an action item to help Doug write a project proposal in
time for distribution in the next mailing.
10.5 SCSI-3 Enclosures Services (SES) Project Proposal [Snively]
Bob Snively presented a project proposal for a new command set document,
SCSI-3 Enclosure Services (SES). The relationship between this work and
projects in other organizations was discussed. The relationship of this
work and SFF was discussed. The need for expeditious action on this project
was discussed. Editorial revisions were made in the project proposal.
Bob Snively moved that the SES project proposal, 96-146r1, be forwarded to
X3 for further processing. Charles Monia seconded the motion. The motion
passed 29:0:0:18=47. John took an action time to forward 96-146r1 (the SES
project proposal) to X3 for further processing.
10.6 Obsolescence vs. Baggage [Milligan]
Gene Milligan called the committee's attention to the "keywords" section as
used by X3T13. The words defined in the keywords sections are: expected,
may, shall, should, mandatory, etc. Gene's particular interest fell on the
word obsolete, a word to be used in describing features that the committee
wants to go away. Gene asked the committee to think about using the word
obsolete in X3T10 documents to make commands and features obsolete in
future versions of committee standards.
11. ISO
11.1 ISO Report [Milligan]
Gene Milligan, the X3T10 International Representative, gave a brief oral
report and provided the following electronic report:
ISO Report 3/96
As reported previously JTC 1 issued twenty one NWI letter ballots
concerning X3T10, 11, and 12 closes 19 January. The ballot results on SC 25
projects were:
The following ballots all passed:
ISO/IEC JTC 1 N 3696 SPI NWI NP14776
ISO/IEC JTC 1 N 3697 SBP NWI NP14777
ISO/IEC JTC 1 N 3698 SAM NWI NP15281
ISO/IEC JTC 1 N 3699 Fast-20 NWI NP14778
ISO/IEC JTC 1 N 3701 SCC NWI NP14779
ISO/IEC JTC 1 N 3693, NWI Pathways and Spaces for Customer Premises Cabling
and Equipment
ISO/IEC JTC 1 N 3715 (DTR 15067), Information Technology - Home Electronic
Systems Lighting Model for HES approved for publication as a Technical
Report Type 3.
ISO/IEC JTC 1 N 3708, NWI FC-PH-2 NP14773
ISO/IEC JTC 1 N 3709, NWI FC-SB NP14774
ISO/IEC JTC 1 N 3710, NWI FC-FP NP14775
ISO/IEC JTC 1 N 3716 (DTR 14543-1), Information Technology - Home
Electronic Systems Architecture Part 1: Device Modularity approved for
publication as a Technical Report Type 2.
ISO/IEC JTC 1 N 3717 (DTR 14543-2), Information Technology - Home
Electronic Systems Architecture Part 2: Communication Layers approved for
publication as a Technical Report Type 2.
ISO/IEC JTC 1 N 3714, Proposal for a New Work Item on Fibre Channel -
Arbitrated Loop (FC-AL) NP15273
ISO/IEC JTC 1 N 3712, NWI FC-PH-3 NP15275
ISO/IEC JTC 1 N 3707, Proposal for a New Work Item on Fibre Channel -
Fabric Generic (FC-FG) NP15276
ISO/IEC JTC 1 N 3706, NWI FC-LE NP15277
ISO/IEC JTC 1 N 3705, NWI FC-SW NP15278
ISO/IEC JTC 1 N 3704, NWI HPPI-ATM NP15279
ISO/IEC JTC 1 N 3703, NWI HPPI-SE NP15280
The FCP NWI ballot N3702 results have not been received. There were two
result documents received with a not uncommon word processing error of
being a duplicate of the same document under a different document number. I
have not yet found out what these documents should have been (e.g. FCP).
At the January meeting the IR recommended that X3T10 approve their
recommended delegation for the SC 25/WG 4 meeting during the March meeting.
Any potential delegates were to confirm their management's support for
their attendance and notify the IR that they wish to be nominated to the
delegation. The X3T10 May meeting agenda should include an ISO agenda item
for instructions to the delegation.
Letter ballots SC 25 N 262-267 were received since the last meeting for SPI
Rev 15A, SBP Rev 19, SAM Rev 18, Fast 20 Rev 6, and SCC Rev 6 with a
closing date of 4/30/96. X3T10 should pre-acted on these letter ballots at
the January meeting. Although a copy of the CD for FCP Rev 10 was expected,
it has not been received. We need to modify the action we took on SPI Rev
15A based upon the discussions at this meeting.
IR96001 96/02/15 letter was sent to Michel Vecchis, and others, with EIA
documents for selection or generation of IEC equivalents.
An accelerated letter ballot was conducted on JTC1N3862 96/01/15 NWI
Proposal SCSI Specs for OMC Reader/Writer to approve a recommended vote to
the US TAG. The letter ballot passed.
IR96002 96/02/27 was sent to the appropriate parties with the recommended
vote NWI N 3862 SCSI OMC.
An updated list of ISO documents is attached to this report:
Doc. # Date Description
========= ========= =================================================
JTC1N3699 95/10/02 NWI SCSI-3 Fast-20 LB closes 1/19/96
JTC1N3698 95/10/02 NWI SCSI-3 SAM LB closes 1/19/96
JTC1N3697 95/10/02 NWI SCSI-3 SBP LB closes 1/19/96
JTC1N3696 95/10/02 NWI SCSI-3 SPI LB closes 1/19/96
JTC1N3702 95/10/02 NWI SCSI-3 FCP LB closes 1/19/96
JTC1N3714 95/10/02 NWI FC-AL closes 1/19/96
JTC1N3713 95/10/02 NWI FC-GS closes 1/19/96
JTC1N3712 95/10/02 NWI FC-PH-3 closes 1/19/96
JTC1N3711 95/10/02 NWI FC-ATM closes 1/19/96
JTC1N3710 95/10/02 NWI FC-FP closes 1/19/96
JTC1N3709 95/10/02 NWI FC-SB closes 1/19/96
JTC1N3708 95/10/02 NWI FC-PH-2 closes 1/19/96
JTC1N3707 95/10/02 NWI FC-FG closes 1/19/96
JTC1N3706 95/10/02 NWI FC-LE closes 1/19/96
JTC1N3705 95/10/02 NWI FC-SW closes 1/19/96
JTC1N3704 95/10/02 NWI HIPPI-ATM closes 1/19/96
JTC1N3703 95/10/02 NWI HIPPI-SE closes 1/19/96
JTC1N3695 95/10/02 NWI FDDI TP-PMD closes 1/19/96
JTC1N3694 95/10/02 NWI FDDI SMT-2 closes 1/19/96
JTC1N3693 95/10/02 NWI Pathways for cabling closes 1/19/96
JTC1N3717 95/10/02 DTR 14543-2 Home Electronics Systems Arch.
Part 2: Communication Layers - Closes
1/19/96
JTC1N3716 95/10/02 DTR 14543-1 Home Electronics Systems Arch.
Part 1: Device Modularity - Closes
1/19/96
JTC1N3715 95/10/02 DTR 15067 Home Electronics Systems
Lighting Model for HES
Pattay 95/10/10 Fax of ITTF final editorial requests 9316-1
Milligan 95/10/11 Ack 9316-1 comm; use SMT-2 as is;SMT-ATS p148
IR95015 95/10/12 Yes vote with Comment LCF-PMD CD
JTC1N3701 95/10/2 NWI SCSI-3 SCC LB closes 1/19/96
SC25N250 95/10/20 List of documents N 201-250
SC25N252 95/10/20 Voting CD14709-3 IT- Planning & installation
Guides for cabling Prt 3: Copper & Fibre Cable
SC25N259 95/10/20 Oehlers' presentation on 11801 Generic Cablin
SC25N274 95/10/20 SC25/WG3 Draft Minutes of 6/95 meeting
SC25N247 95/10/20 CD9314-10 FDDI TP-PMD closes 96/04/30
SC25N246A 95/10/20 Missing pages for CD9314-25 FDDI SMT-ATS
SC25N272 95/10/20 Venue notice SC25 6/17-21/96 London
SC25N247 95/10/20 CD9314-10 FDDI TP-PMD Closes 4/30/96
SC25N268 95/10/20 CD9314-27 FDDI SMT-2-CS Closes 4/30/96
SC25N269 95/10/20 CD9314-28 FDDI SMT-2-IS Closes 4/30/96
SC25N270 95/10/20 CD9314-29 FDDI SMT-2-PS Closes 4/30/96
SC25N262 95/10/20 CDxxxx-9 SPI Rev 15a Closes 4/30/96
SC25N263 95/10/20 CDxxxx-10 SBP Rev 19 Closes 4/30/96
SC25N265 95/10/20 CDxxxx-yy Fast 20 Rev 6 Closes 4/30/96
SC25N266 95/10/20 CD NNNN - 1 SAM Rev 18 Closes 4/30/96
SC25N267 95/10/20 CD NNNN - z SCC Rev 6 Closes 4/30/96
WG4N650 95/11/03 Liaison proposal on keyboards from SC18/WG9
WG4N651 95/11/07 List of NWI ballots
IR95016 95/11/27 Camera Ready Copy of 9316-1 SCSI-2
IR95017 95/11/27 Replacement of SPI with Rev 15a for CD LB
Barra 95/11/8 Req for rec votes on NWIs SCC; Fast-20; SAM; SBP;
SPI; and FCP due 12/8 for JTC1
1/19/96
IR95018 95/12/18 Conversion of EIA Specifications to Anderson
JTC1N3862 96/01/15 NWI Proposal SCSI Specs for OMC Reader/Writer
1N3939 96/02/14 SC26 Report
IR96001 96/02/15 Letter to Vecchis with EIA docs for IEC docs
IR96002 96/02/27 Recommended vote NWI N 3862 SCSI OMC
X3/902298 None SC25 TAG's editorial change to area of work
11.2 Approval of SC 25/WG 4 Delegation
Gene Milligan moved that X3T10 approve Gene Milligan and Roger Cummings as
its representatives to the SC 25/WG 4 meeting. Erich Oetting seconded the
motion. The motion passed 24:1. Ed Gardner stated that his negative vote
was based a lack of clarification of the IPF from X3.
11.3 Instructions to Delegation to SC 25/WG 4
Action on this item was deferred to the May meeting.
11.4 SSA ISO/IEC NWIs
Larry reported that X3T10.1 had not reached agreement about forwarding SSA
documents to ISO. John recommended that action on the SSA documents be
deferred until May. Gene noted that delaying would push ISO consideration
out by several months.
11.5 SSA ISO/IEC CD Contributions
Like the previous topic, action on this item was deferred until May.
11.6 SIP ISO/IEC NWI
Gene Milligan moved that X3T10 approve submittal of a new work item for SIP
and that we contribute SIP revision 9a as the CD for the new work item.
Charles Monia seconded the motion. The motion passed 27:1:0:19=47. Ed
Gardner stated that his negative vote was based a lack of clarification of
the IPF from X3.
11.7 SIP ISO/IEC CD Contribution
Action on this item was covered in the motion made under the previous
agenda item.
11.8 Clarification of international program fee [Allan]
John Lohmeyer reported on the responses received regarding the
international program fee. He complemented Dick Gibson, ITCC Chair, for
responding promptly to the X3T10 request for information. John showed two
graphs summarizing income and expenses in the international program. It
was noted that X3 contributes about half of the IPF and that about two
thirds of the IPF goes to support SCs. John displayed statistics provided
by Jean-Paul Emard showing the X3T10, X3T11, and X3T12 contributions to
X3's collections of the International Program Fee. Ed Gardner expressed
appreciation for the information presented and requested that the
presentation be updated annually (at about the time that the IPF bills are
mailed).
11.9 Results of Letter Ballot 96-014 on recommended response to NWI N
3862 [Milligan]
IR96002 96/02/27 was sent to Christopher Dyball, X3B10 Chairman,
concerning JTC 1 N3862 Proposal for a New Work Item (NWI): SCSI
Specifications for Optical Memory Card Reader/Writer. The letter stated
that X3T10 approved the comments concerning the subject ballot by a vote of
35:3:0:12=50. Two of the three no votes (FSI & Unitrode) in effect
supported the comments but would have been more adamant that the work
should be undertaken as a part of the family of SCSI-3 standards. The third
no vote (QLogic) was a protest vote concerning domestic IPF fees and did
not address the ballot issues. A similar comment was attached to a Yes
ballot from Quantum Corp. Ballots were not received from Conner
Peripherals, Digital, Exabyte, Honda, IIX Consulting, Linfinity Micro, NEC
Technologies, Ophidian Designs, Sun Microsystems, Trimm Technologies,
Western Digital, and Woven Electronics. This ballot will not affect the
voting record of these organizations since it was an accelerated ballot.
The comments parsed through the six questions were that we would agree to
the definition if certain adjustments were made to the definition:
a) Peripheral interface standards and SCSI interface standards in
particular are within the scope of SC 25, not SC 17. However SC 17
does have the scope for the Optical Memory Cards. Consequently the
definition should be changed to propose the work be assigned to SC
25 with co-operation and liaison with SC 17.
b) ISO/IEC 9316 SCSI has been withdrawn and therefore can not have an
addendum added. Two alternatives are possibilities. The proposed
specification perhaps should be an addendum to ISO/IEC 9316-1 SCSI-2
which replaced 9316. However current work is primarily based upon
the family of SCSI-3 draft standards. Perhaps the proposed work
should be another addition (separate standard with normative
references to the other SCSI-3 standards) to the SCSI-3 family of
standards. Review of the 31 July 1996 prepatory work would be
appropriate to determine which of these alternatives would be best.
The review might also reveal that some of the desired specifications
were more appropriate for a profile.
We support the addition to ISO/IEC JTC 1 but not to SC 17. It should be
assigned to SC 25 with co-operation and liaison with SC 17.
We can commit an editor to either assist an editor from Japan (which we
understand to be the source of a proposed contribution) or to be the editor
according to whichever course the committee may prefer. However we prefer
to nominate a specific name after the scope of the task is further defined.
Our initial contributions would not be SCSI Specifications for OMC R/W but
instead the 9316-1 SCSI-2 base standard and/or the family of SCSI-3 drafts.
The contributions have already been provided through SC 25.
Copies of the letter were also sent to:
Judy Anderson SC 25 TAG Secretariat
Barbara Bennett JTC 1 TAG Administrator
Dr. Nikolaus Kovacs Secretary WG 4
John Lohmeyer Chairman X3T10
Walter v. Pattay SC 25 Secretariat
Christopher Dyball informed the X3T10 IR that X3B10 agreed that the work
belongs in SC 25.
11.10 SPI Amendment to ISO
The IR, Gene Milligan, moved that X3T10 revise their prior recommendation
to "X3T10 recommends a YES vote on the SPI Rev 15A ballot with a comment
concerning the defects in Annexes B and D along with the editorial changes
to the drafting standard and the reselect requirement." George Penokie
seconded the motion. The motion passed 27:0:0:20=47.
12. Liaison Reports
12.1 X3T11 Liaison Report [Cummings]
Roger Cummings, X3T11 Chair, made an oral report to the committee and
provided the following electronic report:
X3T11 LIAISON REPORT to X3T10 & X3T12
X3T11 met on February 7, 1996 with 82 people in attendance. Cambex and
Conner Peripherals Inc. lost membership for failure to attend meetings.
Connectivity Solutions, Ophidian Designs and Vixel were added as new member
organizations. The membership of X3T11 is now 61 organizations.
The results of two X3T11 LBs which closed on 1/31/96 were announced:
1) Forwarding a working dpANS, for the FC-FG project, for further
processing including an OMC review and a first Public Review passed with
F49-O00-DNV11.
2) Forwarding a working dpANS, for the SBCON project, for further
processing including an OMC review and a first Public Review passed with
F49-O01-DNV10. Two of the For ballots also included comments.
Liaison reports were presented on the FC Loop Community and the 802.3 High
Speed Study Group, and it was noted that the latter group had taken a
decision to use components meeting the FC-0 and FC-1 specifications, but at
a yet-unspecified rate. A report was also given on the newly-formed FCA
Video working group.
A report was received on the first Study Group meeting for a new higher-
speed version of HIPPI, called HIPPI-6400. Another Study Group was
approved for March 13-14 in Mountain View, CA. Project proposals for both
HIPPI-6400-PH and HIPPI-MP, the latter being for an interim scheme to use
multiple paths in parallel, were presented to X3T11, and will be voted on
in April.
It was reported that the Enhanced IPI-2 Disk draft, Revision 4.0, has
recently been approved for publication as X3.236-1995.
A motion to forward FC-PH-2 Revision 7.3, incorporating responses to the
X3T11 Letter ballot comments, for further processing including an OMC
review and a first Public Review, passed with F44-O00-DNV17.
The Jitter Study group is continuing to do state-of-the-art work in the
characterization and measurement of jitter. Another study group was
approved for March 15 in Colorado Springs, CO.
A motion to request that Project 1025-D, FC-ATM, be withdrawn passed with
F39-O00-DNV32.
It was reported that the comments from the X3T11 Letter Ballot on the SBCON
draft were considered at an Ad Hoc meeting before the Plenary. A new
revision, and comment responses, will be included in the mailing for
approval in April.
A motion to assign action items to individuals to create an escrow account
for 1997 IPFs, to investigate the process for withdrawing existing NWIs at
SC25/WG 4, to see if any Trade Association is willing to become accredited
as a Secretariat, to investigate replacement of the Document Distribution
system, and to recommend that all 1996 invoices are paid in full, was
approved by a rollcall vote of F21-O02-A13-DNV25.
A meeting fee of $100 for those attending the August 1996 X3T11 meeting
week in Honolulu, but not staying at the meeting hotel, was approved by F26-
O00-A02-DNV34.
The following X3T11 Letter Ballots were authorized:
1) Forwarding a working dpANS, for the HIPPI-ATM project, for further
processing including an OMC review and a first Public Review.
2) Forwarding a working dpANS, for the Revised HIPPI-SC project, for
further processing including an OMC review and a first Public Review.
Public Reviews ending on May 14, 1996 have been announced for the 10-bit
Interface TR project and the FC-LE, FC-GS, FC-FG, Revised IPI-3 Tape and
Revised IPI-3 Disk projects. All of these Public Reviews are contingent on
the successful completion of Compliance Reviews at the March OMC meeting.
The next meeting of X3T11 is being hosted by Western Digital on THURSDAY
April 11, 1996 at the Hyatt Regency Suites Palm Springs, 285 North Palm
Canyon Drive, Palm Springs, CA 92262. The phone number for the hotel is
(619) 322-9000. The cutoff date for reservations is March 18.
12.2 X3T13 Liaison Report [Milligan]
Gene Milligan, the acting chairman for X3T13, gave an oral report and
provided the following electronic report:
X3T13 had their organizational meeting 23 through 26 January with 27
members. During the plenary and a subsequent ad hoc meeting 21 through 23
February the group addressed the letter ballot comments on ATA-3 Revision
6. Since the X3T13 projects are all considered to be internal interfaces,
X3T13 concluded that they have no present need for ISO/IEC standards and
have no present plans to have any International projects. Several letter
ballots are being conducted on X3T13 procedures. The letter ballots close
22 March. The next ad hoc meeting is 27 through 29 March at the Historic
Hotel Boulderado in Bolder Colorado hosted by Seagate. Devon Worrell has
postulated that X3T13 should address new command sets that will be needed
by devices using ATA / ATAPI -4. This will likely be a subject of
discussion during the joint agenda item for MMC and ATA on 24 April in
Milpitas. The next plenary meeting of X3T13 will be held April 26, 1996
beginning at 0800 in the Holiday Inn in Milpitas, California hosted by
Quantum. Ad hoc meetings will proceed the plenary on April 24-25, 1996 at
the same hotel.
12.3 SFF Industry Group [Allan]
Dal Allan was forced to leave early but provided the following electronic
report on SFF activities:
SFF Committee Report
Bill Ham distributed the first drafts on the VHDCI (Very High Density Cable
Interconnects) and SCA-2 (Single Connector Attach) backend specifications.
These were based on the EIA-prepared material by AMP and editors SSWGs
(Specific Subject Working Groups) held in Harrisburg.
No terminators were supplied to disk drive manufacturers to test whether
they made any improvements to the electrical characteristics of ATA. It is
hoped they will be provided prior to the next SSWG.
A viable technique to configure disks using high voltage with some form of
mechanical interlock was presented by John Fulponi. By thickening the
plastic at the ends of the 'D' shell about 0.75mm of blocking occurs. If
this is not sufficient to prevent signal mating when 70 pounds of force is
applied, the shell will be inverted in addition to thickening the wall. The
drive manufacturers are generally reluctant to move to a higher voltage, so
there is no immediate use for this specification. It has been readied in
anticipation of a perceived need.
Doug Wagner proposed changes on the SFF-8012 power connector which were
accepted as first pass values suitable for the EIA drafts. Doug will also
prepare a characterized mating half for members to consider.
The 1.8" and 2 1/2" form factor standards at EIA passed the letter ballot
with technical comments on the length of the connector pins being
inconsistent between them. Doug Wagner will prepare modified dimensions and
re-submit for EIA letter ballot and SFF letter ballot (in parallel).
Several comments were received by Seagate on SFF-8067 to transfer enclosure
information across the 40-position SCA-2 connector. Ambiguities and some
implications that drives would do more than pass information blindly will
be addressed.
There have been several recent introductions of connector/cable plant for
Fibre Channel and Bill Ham suggested projects to define the backend of all
these alternatives. The general response was positive.
In addition to Dal's report, Bob Snively mentioned an intent to remove the
EFW function in SFF-8045 document. Bob noted that the proposal will be
distributed on the reflector.
12.4 IEEE 1394 [Marazas]
Peter Johansson described proposals to extend 1394. The proposals included
giga-bit data rate extensions and bus bridges. Peter noted a couple of
projects that were rejected, mostly due to lack of editors.
12.5 IEEE P1285 Status
No report.
12.6 PCMCIA Report []
Gene Milligan reported that there was a PCMCIA meeting to consider a
project for a PCcard bus host adapter for SCSI. No conclusion was reached.
12.7 SCSI Trade Association (STA)
Mark Evans reported that two requests were addressed to X3T10 by STA.
1) X3T10 take a vote stabilize LVD SCSI at the March plenary meeting.
2) X3T10 set a goal of conducting a forwarding letter ballot on SPI-2
following the November plenary meeting.
The X3T10 SPI-2 LVD working group had concluded that LVD is not
sufficiently stable at this time to stabilized it. They expect that it may
be sufficiently stable by the May meeting, however.
John Lohmeyer reported that STA had agreed on a naming convention that he
summarized on a foil. Basically, it is: [Wide] [Fast|Ultra|Ultra2] SCSI.
STA permits the usage of the word "Narrow" to resolve ambiguity, but in the
absence of the word "Wide", one should assume an 8-bit data path. "Wide"
means a 16-bit data path. STA will ignoring 32-bit data paths unless they
become interesting. STA will publish a more detailed explanation of its
naming conventions.
13. Review of Action Items
136) Bob Snively will supply the summary of substantive changes between
FCP R10 and R12 to the IR by 3/18/96.
137) George Penokie will write a document describing his concerns with
table 9 and the text in clause 10.11.3, so that they can be
addressed in SPI-2.
138) Larry Lamers will prepare a SPI amendment document for review and
consideration at the May meeting.
139) John Lohmeyer will generate a draft SCC-2 project proposal.
140) John Lohmeyer will forward SIP revision 9a to X3 for processing
toward first public review.
141) John Lohmeyer will forward SSA-PH1 revision 9 to X3 for further
processing toward first public review, including information about
the unresolved negative letter ballot comment.
142) John Lohmeyer will forward SSA-TL1 revision 10 to X3 for further
processing toward first public review.
143) John Lohmeyer will forward SSA-S2P revision 7 to X3 for further
processing toward first public review.
144) John Lohmeyer will help Doug Hagerman write a high availability
project proposal in time for distribution in the next mailing.
145) John Lohmeyer will forward the SES project proposal to X3 for
further processing.
14. Meeting Schedule
The next plenary meeting of X3T10 will be May 9, 1996, in Ft. Lauderdale,
FL, at the Marriott Ft. Lauderdale North (305-771-0440), hosted by Adaptec,
Inc. The meeting will begin at 1:00 p.m. on Thursday.
The meeting list for the next plenary week is:
May `96 Meeting Map
(3/14/96 Version)
Monday 5/6 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
+===========================================+
| SPI-2/EPI Working Group | (35)
+=========================+=================+
| SPC Review | (15)
+=================+
Tuesday 5/7 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+===========================================+
| SCSI-3 WG | (40)
+===================================+=======+
| MMC WG | (20)
+===============+===============+===+
| SCC/RAB WG | RAB | (20)
+===============+---------------+
| CAM-3 WG | (5)
+===============+
Wednesday 5/8 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+===========================================+
| SCSI-3 WG | (40)
+===================================+=======+
| MMC Working Group | (20)
+===================================+
| SFF SSWGs | (40)
+-----------------------------------+-----------+
| RAB | (20)
+-----------------------------------------------+
Thursday 5/9 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
+---------------+===========================+
| SFF | X3T10 Plenary |
(40/70)
+===============+===========================+
| SSC/SMC WG | (10)
+-+===============+---------------+
| STA | (30)
+---------------------------------+
Friday 5/10 8 9 10 11 12 1 2 3 4 5
+=======================+
| SBC Review | (15)
+=======================+
Meetings marked with == are X3T10-authorized meetings.
Meetings marked with -- are authorized by other groups and may change
without notice.
Meeting Map Abbreviation Key:
CAM: Common Access Method
CAM-3: Next generation CAM for SCSI-3
EPI: SCSI Enhanced Parallel Interface (Technical Report)
Fast-20: Synchronous Data Transfer at 20 Megatransfers/second
FC-AL: Fibre Channel - Arbitrated Loop (an X3T11 project)
FCLC: Fibre Channel Loop Community (not an X3 activity)
I/F: Interface
High Avail.: High Availability
LB: Letter Ballot
MMC: SCSI-3 Multimedia Commands (CD-ROM)
PH: Physical (Connectors, Cables, Transceivers, etc.)
Plenary: Full Committee Meeting
RAB: RAID Advisory Board (not an X3 activity)
RAID: Redundant Array of Independent Devices
SBC: SCSI-3 Block Commands
SBP: SCSI-3 Serial Bus Protocol
SCC: SCSI-3 Controller Commands (RAID)
SCSI: Small Computer System Interface
STA: SCSI Trade Association (not an X3 activity)
SFF: SFF Industry Group (not an X3 activity)
SG: Study Group
SMC: SCSI-3 Medium Changer Commands
SPI-2: Second Generation SCSI-3 Parallel Interface
SSA: Serial Storage Interface
SSC: SCSI-3 Stream Commands (includes Tape)
SSWGs: Specific-Subject Working Groups
VHDCI Very High Density Cabled Interconnect
WG: Working Group (same as Ad Hoc Group)
X3T10: Lower Level Interfaces Technical Committee
X3T10.1: SSA Task Group of X3T10
Several other X3T10 events are also planned:
Event Day/Date Time Location/contact
-------------------- -------------------- ------- -------------------------
-----
SPI-2 LVD WG Mon-Tue April 22-23 9a-5p Milpitas, CA / Norm
Harris
SPI-2 LVD WG Thur-Fri June 6-7 9a-5p Colo Spgs, CO / John
Lohmeyer
MMC WG Mon-Wed April 22-24 9a-5p San Jose, CA / Ron
Roberts
SPC Edit Session Wed-Thur April 17-18 9a-5p San Jose, CA / Gene
Milligan
For more information about X3T10 activities, please contact the following
people:
Activity Contact Telephone/Email
---------------------------- --------------- ------------------------------
BOOT TR Duncan Penman (408) 730-2565
penman at netcom.com
CAM-3 Bill Dallas (603) 881-2508
dallas at wasted.enet.dec.com
EPI & SPI-2 Bill Ham (508) 841-2629
ham at subsys.enet.dec.com
FCP & FCP-2 Robert Snively (415) 336-5332
Bob.Snively at eng.sun.com
GPP Gary Stephens (602) 321-1725
6363897 at mcimail.com
SAM Charles Monia (508) 841-6757
monia at starch.enet.dec.com
SBC Gene Milligan (405) 324-3070
gene_milligan at notes.seagate.com
SBP and MMC Ron Roberts (916) 677-5714
rkroberts at aol.com
SBP-2 Peter Johansson (510) 531-5472
pjohansson at aol.com
SGC Thomas Tewell (415) 459-7978
thomas.tewell at seqadvtech.com
SIP, SCC George Penokie (507) 253-5208
gop at rchvmp3.vnet.ibm.com
SMC Erich Oetting (303) 673-2178
Erich_Oetting at Stortek.com
SPC Ralph Weber (603) 881-1497
roweber at acm.org
SSA-PH1,-PH2,-TL1,-TL2 Larry Lamers (408) 957-7817
ljlamers at aol.com
SSA-S2P & -S3P John Scheible (512) 823-8208
Scheible at vnet.ibm.com
SSC Edward Lappin (303) 447-7718
tedl at exabyte.com
Other Activities John Lohmeyer (719) 573-3362
john.lohmeyer at symbios.com
The long-term X3T10 meeting week schedule is:
Date Location Host/Comments
---------------- ------------------------- -------------------
Jan 8-12, 1996 Dallas, TX Quantum
Mar 11-15, 1996 Newport Beach, CA QLogic
May 6-10, 1996 Ft. Lauderdale, FL Adaptec
Jul 15-19, 1996 Colorado Springs, CO Symbios Logic
Sep 9-13, 1996 Natick, MA (near Boston) Digital
Nov 4- 8, 1996 Palm Springs, CA Western Digital
Jan 6-10, 1997 Dallas, TX Quantum
Mar 10-14, 1997 San Diego, CA QLogic
May 5-9, 1997 Natick, MA (near Boston) Digital
Jul 14-18, 1997 Colorado Springs, CO Symbios Logic
Sep 8-12, 1997 Nashua, NH Unitrode
Nov 3-7, 1997 Palm Springs, CA Western Digital (?)
Jan 5-9, 1998 {1998 dates are tentative (except March)}
Mar 9-13, 1998
May 4-8, 1998
Jul 13-17, 1998
Sep 14-18, 1998
Nov 9-13, 1998
14.1 Authorization of Working Group Meetings
John noted that the working group meetings are required to operate under
the same voting procedures as does X3T10 (that is, one vote per
organization) and the results of a working group are not binding on the
parent committee. This later requirement is why we have traditionally only
used non-binding straw polls in working group meetings. Any issue where
the voting rules would make a difference should be deferred to the plenary
group. Nonetheless, task groups and ad hoc groups should strive to achieve
consensus prior to bringing issues to X3T10.
Charles Monia moved that X3T10 authorize the X3T10-related meetings and
events in the list above. Norm Harris seconded the motion. The motion
passed unanimously.
15. Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 6:34 p.m. on Thursday March 14, 1996.
Meeting Attendees -- Enclosure (1)
Name S Organization Electronic Mail
Address
---------------------- -- ------------------------- -----------------------
Mr. Norm Harris P Adaptec, Inc. nharris at eng.adaptec.com
Mr. Lawrence J. Lamers A Adaptec, Inc. ljlamers at aol.com
Mr. Edward Fong P Amdahl Corp. esf10 at amail.amdahl.com
Mr. Charles Brill P AMP, Inc. cebrill at amp.com
Mr. Gary Porter A Ancot Corp. garyp at ancot.com
Mr. Ron Roberts A Apple Computer rkroberts at aol.com
Mr. Clifford E. Strang P BusLogic skip at buslogic.com
Jr.
Mr. Gerry Johnsen P Ciprico Inc. gerry at ciprico.com
Mr. Ian Morrell P Circuit Assembly Corp. crctassmbl at aol.com
Mr. Peter Johansson P Congruent Software, Inc. pjohansson at aol.com
Mr. Louis Grantham P Dallas Semiconductor grantham at dalsemi.com
Mr. Bill Anderson O DDK Electronics, Inc. 103345.623 at compuserve.com
Mr. Ken Jeffries V Dell Computer Corporation ken at volente.us.dell.com
Mr. Charles Monia P Digital Equipment Corp. monia at shr.dec.com
Mr. Douglas Hagerman A# Digital Equipment Corp. hagerman at starch.enet.dec.
com
Dr. William Ham A# Digital Equipment Corp. ham at subsys.enet.dec.com
Mr. Roger Cummings O Distributed Processing cummings_roger at dpt.com
Tech.
Mr. Robert Reisch P Eastman Kodak Co. reisch at sector.kodak.com
Mr. I. Dal Allan A ENDL dal_allan at mcimail.com
Mr. Ralph O. Weber P ENDL Associate roweber at acm.org
Mr. Edward Lappin P Exabyte Corp. tedl at exabyte.com
Mr. Gary R. Stephens P FSI Consulting Services 6363897 at mcimail.com
Mr. Andy Chen A Fujitsu Computer Prods achen at fcpa.fujitsu.com
Amer
Mr. Stephen Holmstead P Hewlett Packard Co. stephen at mail.boi.hp.com
Mr. J. R. Sims A Hewlett Packard Co. robsims at depeche.lvld.hp.
com
Mr. Anthony Yang A# Hitachi America Ltd. yang_a at halsp.hitachi.com
Mr. Zane Daggett A# Hitachi Cable zdaggett at hcm.hitachi.com
Manchester,Inc
Mr. Thomas J. Kulesza A Honda Connectors
Mr. George Penokie P IBM Corp. gop at rchvmp3.vnet.ibm.com
Mr. Dan Colegrove A# IBM Corp. colegrove at vnet.ibm.com
Mr. Pat Buckland V IBM Corp. buckland at austin.ibm.com
Mr. Gregory Weaver O Iomega Corp. weaver at iomega.com
Mr. Dennis Moore P KnowledgeTek, Inc. dmoore at netcom.com
Mr. Dean Wallace P Linfinity Micro 75671.3443 at compuserve.com
Mr. Pete McLean P Maxtor Corp. pete_mclean at maxtor.com
Mr. Steve D. Schueler P Methode Electronics, Inc.
Mr. Jay Neer A Molex Inc. jneer at molex.com
Mr. Peter Gossler O NSM Jukebox GmbH PeterGossler at nsm.com
Mr. Mike Hetzel A Oak Technology, Inc. mikeh at corp.oaktech.com
Mr. Edward A. Gardner P Ophidian Designs gardner at acm.org
Mr. Dan Davies O Overland Data Inc. ddavies at ovrland.com
Mr. Bill McFerrin O Philips KMG BMcFerrin at aol.com
Mr. Mark Evans A Quantum Corp. mevans at qntm.com
Mr. Gene Milligan P Seagate Technology Gene_Milligan at notes.
seagate.com
Mr. Dave Guss P Silicon Systems, Inc. dave.guss at tus.ssi1.com
Mr. Mike Yokoyama O Sony Electronics, Inc. yokoyama at dss.sel.sony.com
Mr. Erich Oetting P Storage Technology Corp. Erich_Oetting at Stortek.com
Mr. Kim Stanyard V Storm Products
Mr. Robert N. Snively P Sun Microsystems Computer bob.snively at eng.sun.com
Co
Mr. John Lohmeyer P Symbios Logic Inc. john.lohmeyer at symbios.com
Mr. Greg Kapraun A Symbios Logic Inc. Greg.Kapraun at symbios.com
Mr. Akram Atallah A SyQuest Technology, Inc. akram.atallah at syquest.com
Mr. Pete Tobias A Tandem Computers tobias_pete at tandem.com
Mr. Tokuyuki Totani P Toshiba America totani at tix.netcom.com
Mr. Dave Wehrman V UNISYS 75211.177 at compuserve.com
Mr. Kenneth J. Hallam P UNISYS Corporation ken.hallam at mv.unisys.com
Mr. Paul D. Aloisi P Unitrode Integrated Aloisi at uicc.com
Circuits
Mr. Francesco Liburdi O Wearnsi Hollingsworth
Mr. Doug Piper P Woven Electronics 549.9900 at mcimail.com
59 People Present
Status Key: P - Principal
A,A# - Alternate
O - Observer
L - Liaison
V - Visitor
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