[T10] When is the SAS 4 Spec estimated to be released

Curtis Stevens curtis.stevens at wdc.com
Thu May 26 17:44:30 PDT 2016


Kai

                The initial target for letter ballot is May-2017.  Given the way letter ballots go, this will probably not be resolved until early 2018.  This is provided that we ballot starting in May 2017.  You should contact Alvin Cox, the standard editor, for a better estimate based on his thinking.



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From: t10-bounces at t10.org [mailto:t10-bounces at t10.org] On Behalf Of Wanamaker, Neil (Consultant - Insight Global)
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 4:14 PM
To: Kai Keskinen <kkeskin at celestica.com>
Cc: t10 at t10.org
Subject: Re: [T10] When is the SAS 4 Spec estimated to be released

So what you REALLY want is “when is it safe to build to that spec”?  And that all depends on your willingness to accept risks in exchange for faster product availability.

And that is also where committee participation provides you with a greater insight into which things are likely to change before publication and which not.

Neil Wanamaker
Insight Global @ HPE
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From: t10-bounces at t10.org<mailto:t10-bounces at t10.org> [mailto:t10-bounces at t10.org] On Behalf Of Kai Keskinen
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 4:00 PM
To: Curtis Stevens <curtis.stevens at wdc.com<mailto:curtis.stevens at wdc.com>>
Cc: t10 at t10.org<mailto:t10 at t10.org>
Subject: Re: [T10] When is the SAS 4 Spec estimated to be released

Hi:

I'm interested in when the balloting has been done and it looks like the standard has pretty much been defined. I know that projects done by committee can take a lot longer than first forecast so I'm just looking for a rough estimate, 1 year +/- 6 months.

Thanks,

Kai Keskinen Ph.D.
Design Engineering Manager 3
Celestica Engineering Services
329 March Road, Suite 223, Ottawa, Ontario K2K 2E1
Tel: 613-591-0070 x1239
Cell: 613-793-4359
Fax: 613-591-2070
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On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Curtis Stevens <curtis.stevens at wdc.com<mailto:curtis.stevens at wdc.com>> wrote:
Lets be a little easier on Kal...

Are you interested in knowing when the standard will be available for purchase, or are you interested in when T10 has projected to be done with the balloting?



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Curtis E. Stevens
Director, Standards & Features Technology
3355 Michelson Dr. #100
Office: 1-1041
Irvine, Ca. 92612

Phone: 949-672-7933<tel:949-672-7933>
Cell: 949-307-5050<tel:949-307-5050>
E-Mail: Curtis.Stevens at WDC.com<mailto:Curtis.Stevens at WDC.com>

Remember, you may only be blamed for something if you are actually doing something.

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From: t10-bounces at t10.org<mailto:t10-bounces at t10.org> [mailto:t10-bounces at t10.org<mailto:t10-bounces at t10.org>] On Behalf Of John Geldman (jgeldman)
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 2:29 PM
To: Ralph Weber <roweber at ieee.org<mailto:roweber at ieee.org>>; t10 at t10.org<mailto:t10 at t10.org>
Subject: Re: [T10] When is the SAS 4 Spec estimated to be released

Dr. Keskinen,

Another aspect of the answer is that while many members have a model of when, how , and where a SAS4 standard would be published, there is no guaranteed or even official timeline. There is a target set at the beginning of the project, but that is not updated with progress or problems until it is missed.

There may be a consensus target amongst the members, but sometimes the cynical outliers are more accurate.

An answer from the chair (Ralph Weber), is an informed opinion (once you agree on a specific development target (e.g., those that are committee controlled, those that are INCITS controlled and those that are ANSI controlled), but any answer needs to be taken in risk context.

Regards,

John Geldman
T10 Secretary

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From: t10-bounces at t10.org<mailto:t10-bounces at t10.org> [mailto:t10-bounces at t10.org<mailto:t10-bounces at t10.org>] On Behalf Of Ralph Weber
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 10:28 AM
To: t10 at t10.org<mailto:t10 at t10.org>
Subject: Re: [T10] When is the SAS 4 Spec estimated to be released

Dear Dr. Keskinen,

Unfortunately, the question is not phrased in terms that correlate to the terms used in the process for developing an American National Standard. Please be so kind as to further define the phrase "officially released" as you understand its meaning.

All the best,

Ralph Weber
T10 Chair

On 5/26/2016 9:54 AM, Kai Keskinen wrote:
> Hi Folks:
>
> When is the SAS 4 spec estimated to be officially released?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kai Keskinen Ph.D.
> Design Engineering Manager 3
> Celestica Engineering Services
> 329 March Road, Suite 223, Ottawa, Ontario K2K 2E1
> Tel: 613-591-0070 x1239
> Cell: 613-793-4359
> Fax: 613-591-2070
> kkeskin at celestica.com<mailto:kkeskin at celestica.com> <mailto:kkeskin at celestica.com<mailto:kkeskin at celestica.com>> www.celestica.com<http://www.celestica.com>
> <http://www.celestica.com>
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