SONY XDCAM optical drive (?)

Peter Van Hove Peter at Smart-Projects.net
Wed Oct 17 15:56:08 PDT 2007


* From the T10 Reflector (t10 at t10.org), posted by:
* "Peter Van Hove" <Peter at Smart-Projects.net>
*
Thanks All,
This seems to confirm that this is a "special" implementation and as such 
it's not within the scope of my project to support it (yet).
Good to know however.  We learned something again :)
Best Regards,
Peter
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Burg" <daviburg at windows.microsoft.com>
To: "Ryuichiro Tonari" <Ryuichiro_Tonari at sonic.com>; "Peter Van Hove" 
<Peter at Smart-Projects.net>
Cc: <t10 at t10.org>; <mtfuji5 at avc-pioneer.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:43 AM
Subject: RE: SONY XDCAM optical drive (?)
Hello,
XDCAM is based on Sony's Pro Data format, a format for professional market 
designed and released before BD. I worked on Pro Data recorders in the past. 
There is a vendor command set indeed, and if I remember well it is based on 
SPC+SBC. The device type in the inquiry command indeed does not point to MMC 
devices.
If needed contact me off the reflector Peter and I'll see if I can did up 
some old Sony Pro Data contact.
Best regards,
David Burg.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-t10 at t10.org [mailto:owner-t10 at t10.org] On Behalf Of Ryuichiro 
Tonari
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:45 AM
To: Peter Van Hove
Cc: t10 at t10.org; mtfuji5 at avc-pioneer.com
Subject: RE: SONY XDCAM optical drive (?)
* From the T10 Reflector (t10 at t10.org), posted by:
* "Ryuichiro Tonari" <Ryuichiro_Tonari at sonic.com>
*
Dear Brian,
That device is probably based on the blue laser technology that doesn't
follow Blu-ray standard.  I assume its inquiry reports type 7 device
like MO drives.  I assume its command set looks more like the one for MO
drives but you might want to get the specification from SONY because it
probably uses some vendor unique commands.
Hope it helps.
Sonic Solutions
Tonari
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-t10 at t10.org [mailto:owner-t10 at t10.org] On Behalf Of Peter
Van Hove
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:03 AM
To: Brian A. Berg
Cc: t10 at t10.org; mtfuji5 at avc-pioneer.com
Subject: Re: SONY XDCAM optical drive (?)
* From the T10 Reflector (t10 at t10.org), posted by:
* "Peter Van Hove" <Peter at Smart-Projects.net>
*
Dear Brian,
I don't own such a device, which makes it harder to address any issues.
I have been working this issue via an owner in Australia, but that
person is
not an expert on the backend stuff (at all).
As far as I understand this device is BD only internally.
I have uploaded a few interesting things that the owner sent me after I
asked several questions:
http://www.smart-projects.net/downloads/temp/SonyXDCAM.zip
Among the data is a BUSTrace log of the Inquiry command (and even
screenshots of it for those not owning a BUSTrace copy).
Best Regards,
Peter
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian A. Berg" <bberg at bswd.com>
To: <Peter at Smart-Projects.net>
Cc: <t10 at t10.org>; <mtfuji5 at avc-pioneer.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: SONY XDCAM optical drive (?)
> Peter,
>
> Could you send along the 36 Inquiry command data bytes so that it's
> clear re: this device's PDT, Product ID, etc.?  Also, does the device
> possibly have the capability of multiple personalities, e.g., both HDD
> and optical, which could be hard- and/or soft-switchable?
>
> Thanks.
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>> Hi,
>>
>> I came accross the SONY XDCAM which is supposed to be a BD drive but
I
>> have troubles supporting it correctly.
>> Reasons are, it does not say it's an optical drive (Inquiry) and once
>> worked around that it does not return 'expected' data on normal
commands
>> sent to optical drives (e.g. Read Disc Info, Mode Sense etc.) (e.g.
Read
>> Disc Information says the disc is blank while it is not).
>>
>> Does anybody know more about this ?
>> Is this not supposed to be a 'normal' optical drive ?  Is it a
special
>> drive supporting only a subset of commands ? Or is it maybe the
driver
>> that masks things ?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Peter
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>> Peter Van Hove, CEO Smart Projects
>> CD, DVD, BD and HD DVD Data recovery
>> Peter at Smart-Projects.net
>>
>> www.Smart-Projects.net
>> www.IsoBuster.com
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