SAS 1.1 Removed clause 9.2.6.3.3.3.4

Bill Martin bill_martin at sierralogic.com
Thu Aug 4 11:08:38 PDT 2005


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George:

 

Thank you for the explanation.  In the revision history, the only
changes that were noted for revision 9e were those related to comment
database resolution.  There was no mention in the revision history of
the inclusion of 05-143r4.

 

Bill Martin
Sr. Principal Engineer
Standards and Interoperability
Sierra Logic, Inc.
916 772-3658

916 765-6875 (Cell)
bill_martin at sierralogic.com

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From: owner-t10 at t10.org [mailto:owner-t10 at t10.org] On Behalf Of George
Penokie
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 7:39 AM
To: Bill Martin
Cc: Robert Elliot; owner-t10 at t10.org; t10 at t10.org
Subject: Re: SAS 1.1 Removed clause 9.2.6.3.3.3.4

 


Bill, 

All the change made in rev 9e are based off the 05-143r4 proposal. I you
look at the second half of that proposal you will see all the changes
are indicated. 

Yes those transitions were intentionally removed, however, transitions
were added so the net effect is identical. The previous sequence was 

-ST_TTS1 to ST_TTS2 to ST_TTS4 to ST_TTS2 

the new sequence is: 

-ST_TTS1 to ST_TTS4 to ST_TTS2 

The removed step did nothing except determine that the transition was
necessary. The same is true for the other deleted transition. The
previous sequence was: 

-ST_TTS1 to ST_TTS2 to ST_TTS6 to ST_TTS2 

the new sequence is: 

-ST_TTS1 to ST_TTS6 to ST_TTS2 

There was no change to functionally as a result of this change only how
the function is described. You will find this to be true in many places
throughout the new transport layer state machine description. 

Bye for now,
George Penokie

Dept 2C6  114-2 N212
E-Mail:    gop at us.ibm.com
Internal:  553-5208
External: 507-253-5208   FAX: 507-253-2880






"Bill Martin" <bill_martin at sierralogic.com> 
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08/03/2005 10:01 PM 


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"Robert Elliot" <elliott at hp.com>, <t10 at t10.org> 


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Subject

SAS 1.1 Removed clause 9.2.6.3.3.3.4

 


 

 




Rob: 
  
In SAS1.1 rev 9e, the clauses 9.2.6.3.3.3.5 and 9.2.6.3.3.3.7 are
missing, with no explanation of why they were removed.  Existing
implementations use these transitions, and we would like to understand
if this was an accidental deletion, or an intentional removal. 
  
Bill Martin
Sr. Principal Engineer
Standards and Interoperability
Sierra Logic, Inc.
916 772-3658 
916 765-6875 (Cell)
bill_martin at sierralogic.com 
  


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those related to comment database resolution.&nbsp; There was no =
mention in the
revision history of the inclusion of =
05-143r4.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Standards and Interoperability<br>
Sierra Logic, Inc.<br>
916 772-3658</span></font><font color=3Dnavy><span =
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owner-t10 at t10.org [mailto:owner-t10 at t10.org] <b><span =
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August =
04, 2005
7:39 AM<br>
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Robert Elliot;
owner-t10 at t10.org; t10 at t10.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: SAS 1.1 =
Removed
clause 9.2.6.3.3.3.4</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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</span></font><font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
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<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>All
the change made in rev 9e are based off the 05-143r4 proposal. I you =
look at
the second half of that proposal you will see all the changes are =
indicated.</span></font>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>Yes
those transitions were intentionally removed, however, transitions were =
added
so the net effect is identical. The previous sequence was =
</span></font><br>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>-ST_TTS1
to ST_TTS2 to ST_TTS4 to ST_TTS2</span></font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>the
new sequence is:</span></font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>-ST_TTS1
to ST_TTS4 to ST_TTS2</span></font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>The
removed step did nothing except determine that the transition was =
necessary.
The same is true for the other deleted transition. The previous =
sequence was:</span></font>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>-ST_TTS1
to ST_TTS2 to ST_TTS6 to ST_TTS2</span></font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>the
new sequence is:</span></font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>-ST_TTS1
to ST_TTS6 to ST_TTS2</span></font> <br>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>There
was no change to functionally as a result of this change only how the =
function
is described. You will find this to be true in many places throughout =
the new
transport layer state machine description. </span></font><br>
<font size=3D2 face=3Dsans-serif><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'><br>
Bye for now,<br>
George Penokie<br>
<br>
<st1:address w:st=3D"on"><st1:Street w:st=3D"on">Dept</st1:Street> =
2C6</st1:address>
&nbsp;114-2 N212<br>
E-Mail: &nbsp; &nbsp;gop at us.ibm.com<br>
Internal: &nbsp;553-5208<br>
External: 507-253-5208 &nbsp; FAX: 507-253-2880<br>
<br>
</span></font><br>
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<font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>In
SAS1.1 rev 9e, the clauses 9.2.6.3.3.3.5 and 9.2.6.3.3.3.7 are missing, =
with no
explanation of why they were removed. &nbsp;Existing implementations =
use these
transitions, and we would like to understand if this was an accidental
deletion, or an intentional removal.</span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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Martin<br>
Sr. Principal Engineer<br>
Standards and Interoperability<br>
Sierra Logic, Inc.<br>
916 772-3658</span></font> <br>
<font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>916
765-6875 (Cell)<br>
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