Draft minutes T10 Plenary Meeting #59 -- Jan 15, 2004

John Lohmeyer lohmeyer at t10.org
Fri Jan 16 08:50:37 PST 2004


* From the T10 Reflector (t10 at t10.org), posted by:
* John Lohmeyer <lohmeyer at t10.org>
*

 T10 Meeting #59 Accredited Standards Committee*
InterNational Committee for Information Technology Standards (INCITS)

                                                   Doc. No.: T10/04-039r0
                                                       Date: January 16, 2004
                                                   Reply to: John Lohmeyer

To:       T10 Membership
From:     Ralph Weber / John Lohmeyer
Subject:  Minutes of T10 Plenary Meeting #59 -- January 15, 2004
          Chandler, AZ
Agenda

1.     Opening Remarks
2.     Approval of Agenda
3.     Attendance and Membership
4.     Approval of Minutes - November 2003 Meeting - Austin, TX (T10/03-372r0)
5.     Document Distribution
6.     Call for Patents
7.     Review of Old Action Items
8.     Project Status Reports
8.1      Project Status Summary and INCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]
8.1.1      INCITS Antitrust Guidelines
8.2      Object-based Storage Devices Commands (OSD) {Project 1355-D} [Weber]
8.3      SCSI Medium Changer Commands - 2 (SMC-2) {Project 1383-D} [Oetting]
8.4      SCSI Primary Commands - 3 (SPC-3) {Project 1416-D} [Weber]
8.5      SCSI Block Commands - 2 (SBC-2) {Project 1417-D} [Elliott]
8.6      SCSI Stream Commands - 2 (SSC-2) {Project 1434-D} [Peterson]
8.7      SCSI Serial Bus Protocol -3 (SBP-3) {Project 1467-D} [Johansson]
8.8      SCSI RDMA Protocol - 2 (SRP-2) {Project 1524-D} [Simpson]
8.9      SCSI Management Server Commands (MSC) {Project 1528-D}
[Penokie/Elliott]
8.10     MultiMedia Command Set - 4 (MMC-4) {Project 1545-D} [McFerrin]
8.11     Automation/Drive Interface - Transport Protocol (ADT) {Project
1557-D} [Entzel]
8.12     Automation/Drive Interface - Commands (ADC) {Project 1558-D}
[Entzel/Wideman]
8.13     SCSI Enclosure Services - 2 (SES-2) {Project 1559-D} [Elliott]
8.14     Fibre Channel Protocol - 3 (FCP-3) {Project 1560-D} [Peterson]
8.15     SCSI Architecture Model - 3 (SAM-3) {Project 1561-D} [Weber]
8.16     Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) {Project 1562-D} [Elliott]
8.17     Serial Attached SCSI - 1.1 (SAS-1.1) {Project 1601-D} [Elliott]
8.18     SCSI Stream Commands - 3 (SSC-3) {Project 1611-D} [Peterson]
9.     Old Business
10.    New Business
10.1     MMC-5 Project Proposal (03-358r0) [McFerrin]
10.2     Actions on SAS Protocol Working Group Recommendations
10.3     Actions on CAP Working Group Recommendations
10.4     Actions on Other Working Group Recommendations
11.    ISO/IEC
11.1     ISO/IEC Report [Robinson]
11.2     ISO/IEC Business [Robinson]
11.2.1     T10 Recommendation on JTC 1/SC 25  FDIS 14776-115 (SPI-5)
11.2.2     FCD Ballot for FCD 14776-222: IT - Small Computer System Interface
- Part 222: Fibre channel protocol for SCSI, second version (FCP-2)
11.2.3     FDIS Ballot for FDIS 14776-150: IT - Small Computer System
Interface - Part 150: Serial Attached SCSI (SAS)
11.2.4     Approval of list of delegates [Robinson]
12.    Liaison Reports
12.1     T11 Liaison Report [Snively]
12.2     T13 Liaison Report [Colegrove]
12.3     SFF Industry Group [Allan]
12.4     IEEE 1394 [Johansson]
12.5     SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Czekalski]
12.6     IETF SCSI over IP [Black/Robinson]
12.7     SNIA [Cummings]
12.8     SATA II [Cox/open]
13.    Review of Action Items
14.    Meeting Schedule
14.1       Authorization of Working Group Meetings
15.    Adjournment


Results of Meeting

1.     Opening Remarks

John Lohmeyer, the T10 Chair, called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m.,
Thursday January 15, 2004. He thanked Bob Sheffield of Intel for hosting the
meeting.

John said that INCITS subgroup membership forms and the T10 document
subscription forms are available on the meeting web site. He said that people
should use these forms to ensure the INCITS Secretariat has the latest
membership information. These forms should be mailed directly to the INCITS
Secretariat.

As is customary, the people attending introduced themselves. Attendance was
taken electronically via the meeting web site.


2.     Approval of Agenda

No additions/changes were made to the draft agenda.

John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the agenda be approved. In
the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously.

The following items were added/revised during the course of the meeting:

11.2.3     FDIS Ballot for FDIS 14776-150: IT - Small Computer System
Interface - Part 150: Serial Attached SCSI (SAS)


3.     Attendance and Membership

The membership requirements were reviewed. INCITS rules permit one vote per
organization. An individual from a new organization must attend two out of
three consecutive plenary meetings. He/she may apply for voting membership the
second meeting via a letter to the Chair of T10. The individual may begin
voting at the beginning of his/her second meeting.

To maintain membership, organizations must pay the INCITS Service Fee ($800).

John briefly discussed the mailing fees. Complete pricing information is
contained in the 2004 membership form (available at
ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/mem_form.txt).

There are also minimum attendance requirements to maintain voting membership
on T10. If a member organization fails to attend two of the last three T10
meetings, they are warned that failing to attend the next T10 meeting would
result in their membership being terminated.

The Chair said he had sent letters to 12 people from 6 organizations informing
them that their membership was in jeopardy due to non-attendance (see
03-375r0) and that their membership would be terminated if they did not attend
this meeting. The following organizations were in attendance jeopardy:

General Dynamics
Hitachi Cable Manchester
Madison Cable Corp.
Pivot3, Inc.
Toshiba
UNISYS Corporation

All the organizations were present at the meeting.

The members from the organizations that failed to attend would have had their
membership changed to non-voting status.

No organizations joined the committee at this meeting.

John noted that Emulex had acquired Vixel since the last meeting, so the total
T10 voting membership had dropped to 38 organizations.

The T10 membership during the meeting was 38 organizations unchanged from the
38 member organizations prior to the meeting. Enclosure (1) is the list of the
people present at the meeting and enclosure (2) is the current T10 membership
list.

John Lohmeyer reminded members that failure to vote on two out of the last
three letter ballots also would result in membership jeopardy and then noted
that no organizations are currently in letter ballot jeopardy.


4.     Approval of Minutes - November 2003 Meeting - Austin, TX (T10/03-372r0)

John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the minutes be approved. In
the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously.


5.     Document Distribution

Members who have any problems with their mailing subscription should deal
directly with Parthenia Purnell (ppurnell at itic.org) (202) 626-5741. A
subscription form is included on the meeting disk.

John Lohmeyer requested that all documents for the next mailing be uploaded to
the T10 web site by 10:30 a.m. on Thursday January 20, 2004. Documents
received after this time may go into a subsequent mailing.

John reminded the committee of the requirements for document submission. Since
T10 meets its document retention requirements by preparing mailings, documents
included in the mailing must be suitable for archiving. This means that
native-format and/or Portable Document Format (PDF) electronic originals with
proper identification must be submitted.

People can obtain T10 document numbers and revised T10 document numbers by
filling out a web form at http://www.t10.org/members/. The assigned T10
document number will be sent to the requestor by e-mail. The requestor may
then reply to this email, including the document to be posted as an
attachment. The document will be automatically posted on the T10 web site.

T10 members can complete this entire process using their personal T10
password. John explained that members who do not know their password should
surf to the above URL and click on the "forgot password" link to have their
password sent to them via e-mail.

John noted that non-members can also use the above document number process,
but their requests will require approval by an administrator.

Minutes are available on the T10 World Wide Web page (see below), and are
distributed to the T10 Reflector.

To be added to the T10 Reflector, send an e-mail to majordomo at t10.org with the
line 'subscribe t10' in the message body.

The INCITS Secretariat maintains a World Wide Web page at:

http://www.incits.org/.

LSI Logic maintains a web site on behalf of T10 on a server donated by the
SCSI Trade Association at:

http://www.t10.org/

There is also a mirror site at:

http://www.t11.org/t10/

The T10 document register is available at:

ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/dr.txt


6.     Call for Patents

John Lohmeyer explained that this is a regular agenda item to identify any
potential patent issues with developing standards and technical reports.

A document is available from ANSI, "Procedures for the Development and
Coordination of American National Standards", at no charge. This document is
also on the WWW at http://www.incits.org/help/ansi_sdo.html. Section 1.2.11
contains the ANSI patent policy. Amy Marasco manages patent issues for ANSI
and can be contacted at amarasco at ansi.org or 212-642-4954. Gene Milligan
prepared a useful "Handy dandy Technical Committee's Patents Guide", which is
available at ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/document.99/99-291r0.pdf.

John Lohmeyer presented a summary of the ANSI patent policy prepared by Gary
Robinson. The summary is also included on the Rules and Procedures (plus
Patent Information) page on the T10 web site.

Bob Sheffield reminded the committee that a statement of the Intel patent
policy can be found in T10/01-041r0.

John asked that anyone who knows of other applicable patents to contact him.

There were no other responses to the call for patents other than those
mentioned above.


7.     Review of Old Action Items

545    David Black will ensure that RFCs are written defining URLs for SNMP,
CIM over HTTP/HTTPS, and SSH. Carryover
557    Gary Robinson will forward 03-301r0 as a US contribution to JTC1/SC25
as a NWIP for Serial Bus Protocol -3, SBP-3, 1.25.13.11.39: 14776-233.
Complete
558    Gary Robinson will report to INCITS that T10 recommended approval of
FCD 14776-452 SPC-2 during the September meeting (minutes in 03-306r0). The
approval was under agenda item 11.2.3 and the vote was 34:0:0:7=41. The
September action item was incorrectly written for an FDIS instead of an FCD.
Complete


8.     Project Status Reports

8.1    Project Status Summary and INCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]

John Lohmeyer said that the current T10 project status summary was included on
the meeting web site and will be included in the mailing as usual.

Terry Nelson report that INCITS is meeting the week after next in Orlando, FL.
John reported that the INCITS TC officers symposium is on April 28 in
Washington, DC.

8.1.1  INCITS Antitrust Guidelines

All T10 members should be aware of the INCITS antitrust guidelines available
at http://www.incits.org/natrust.htm.

John reminded committee members that all persons present at a T10 meeting is
responsible for identifying potential violations of the antitrust guidelines
and reporting them to the chair. Discussions of the following topics are
considered sensitive:

    * Any company's prices or pricing policies;
    * Specific R;
    * Any company's confidential product, product development or production
    strategies;
    * Whether certain suppliers or customers will be served;
    * Prices paid to input sources; or
    * Complaints about individual firms or other actions that might tend to
    hinder a competitor in any market.

8.2    Object-based Storage Devices Commands (OSD) {Project 1355-D} [Weber]

Ralph Weber reported that OSD revision 9 based on comments from the SNIA TWG
and T10 editing meetings will be uploaded in time for the mailing and that a
Letter Ballot approving forwarding of OSD will be requested for OSD revision
9.

8.3    SCSI Medium Changer Commands - 2 (SMC-2) {Project 1383-D} [Oetting]

John Lohmeyer reported that SMC-2 completed Public Review on 17 November with
no comments received.

However, the ED and Media Type fields were omitted from one of the tables.
Erich Oetting prepared a revision 7 correcting those errors.

John Lohmeyer moved that SMC-2 revision 7, containing substantive changes, be
forwarded to INCITS for second public review. Roger Cummings seconded the
motion. The motion passed on a roll call vote as follows.

Organization                 Voter                         Vote
Adaptec, Inc.                Tim Symons                    Yes
Agilent Technologies         Pat Thaler                    Yes
Amphenol Interconnect        Michael Wingard               Yes
Andiamo Systems, Inc.                                      (not present)
Brocade                      Robert Snively                Yes
Crossroads Systems, Inc.                                   (not present)
Dallas Semiconductor         Titkwan Hui                   Yes
Dell, Inc.                                                 (not present)
EMC Corp.                    Gary S. Robinson              Yes
Emulex                       Robert H. Nixon               Yes
ENDL                         Ralph O. Weber                Yes
FCI                          Douglas Wagner                Yes
Fujitsu                      Mike Fitzpatrick              Yes
General Dynamics                                           (not present)
Hewlett Packard Co.          Rob Elliott                   Yes
Hitachi Cable Manchester     Zane Daggett                  Yes
Hitachi Global Storage Tech. Dan Colegrove                 Yes
IBM Corp.                    George O. Penokie             Yes
Intel Corp.                  Robert Sheffield              Yes
Iomega Corp.                 David Hawks                   Yes
LSI Logic Corp.              John Lohmeyer                 Yes
Madison Cable Corp.          Ashlie Fan                    Yes
Maxtor Corp.                 Mark Evans                    Yes
Microsoft Corp.              Emily Hill                    Yes
Molex Inc.                   Jay Neer                      Yes
Panasonic Technologies, Inc  Terence J. Nelson             Yes
Philips Electronics          William P. McFerrin           Yes
Pivot3, Inc.                 Bill Galloway                 Yes
QLogic Corp.                 Craig W. Carlson              Yes
Quantum Corp.                Paul Entzel                   Yes
SBS Technologies                                           (not present)
Seagate Technology           Jim Coomes                    Yes
Storage Technology Corp.                                   (not present)
Sun Microsystems, Inc.       Vit Novak                     Yes
Texas Instruments            Robert Kando                  Yes
Toshiba                      Hiroshi Suzuki                Yes
UNISYS                       Phil Shelton                  Yes
Veritas Software             Roger Cummings                Yes

2/3rds vote passed (32:0:0:6=38)


John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward SMC-2 revision 7 to INCITS for
processing towards second Public Review.

8.4    SCSI Primary Commands - 3 (SPC-3) {Project 1416-D} [Weber]

Ralph Weber reported that SPC-3 revision 17 will be prepared based on
proposals approved by this meeting and will be posted before the next meeting.
He stated that SPC-3 revision 17 most likely will not be available in time for
the January mailing.

8.5    SCSI Block Commands - 2 (SBC-2) {Project 1417-D} [Elliott]

Rob Elliott reported that there will be an editing meeting for SBC-2 after
this meeting. Revision 12 will incorporate proposals approved by this meeting
and the results of the editing meeting and will be available in time for the
mailing.

8.6    SCSI Stream Commands - 2 (SSC-2) {Project 1434-D} [Peterson]

John Lohmeyer reported that SSC-2 had been published as ANSI INCITS.380:2003.
He congratulated Dave Peterson, the project editor.

8.7    SCSI Serial Bus Protocol -3 (SBP-3) {Project 1467-D} [Johansson]

John Lohmeyer reported that the second Public Review on SBP-3 closed on
November 17. Peter Johansson later requested that John investigate whether
additional changes would require a third Public Review. Debbie Spittle has
ruled that the changes are substantive. Peter has not responded to requests
|from John regarding what to do next.

8.8    SCSI RDMA Protocol - 2 (SRP-2) {Project 1524-D} [Simpson]

In the absence of Cris Simpson, no report was available.

8.9    SCSI Management Server Commands (MSC) {Project 1528-D}
[Penokie/Elliott]

George Penokie reported that a teleconference was held in December and another
is anticipated in February. Consideration of an MSC proposal is proceeding in
the CAP working group (minutes in 04-038).

8.10   MultiMedia Command Set - 4 (MMC-4) {Project 1545-D} [McFerrin]

Bill McFerrin reported on the activities of the MMC-4 working group. Several
open technical issues have been resolved and worked into the draft. The
working group believes that it is about time to forward MMC-4 to T10. He
expects to request a Letter Ballot.

8.11   Automation/Drive Interface - Transport Protocol (ADT) {Project 1557-D}
[Entzel]

Paul Entzel reported on the activities of the ADI working group (minutes in
04-034). The current ADT revision is 9 and revision 10 will prepared in the
next few weeks but not in time for the mailing.

8.12   Automation/Drive Interface - Commands (ADC) {Project 1558-D}
[Entzel/Wideman]

Paul Entzel reported that the ADC Letter Ballot resolution document is
03-385r0, with r1 anticipated in the next few weeks. Work is underway to
develop a list of critical issues for discussion during the telephone
conference calls and during the March meeting.

8.13   SCSI Enclosure Services - 2 (SES-2) {Project 1559-D} [Elliott]

Rob Elliott reported on the SES-2 activities undertaken in the CAP working
group (minutes in 04-038). Revision 6 will be prepared including proposals
approved by this meeting and will be available in time for the mailing.

8.14   Fibre Channel Protocol - 3 (FCP-3) {Project 1560-D} [Peterson]

John Lohmeyer reported that time has been scheduled for the FCP-3 working
group on Tuesday morning of the March meeting week.

8.15   SCSI Architecture Model - 3 (SAM-3) {Project 1561-D} [Weber]

Ralph Weber reported that revision 11 will be prepared following this meeting
and will contain all proposals approved by this meeting. Revision 11 may not
be available in time for the mailing.

The committee discussed holding a Letter Ballot on SAM-3 and putting the UML
model in SAM-4. It was agreed that an editing meeting should be held in March
preparatory to a SAM-3 Letter Ballot following the March meeting week. George
Penokie noted that anyone with SAM-3 issues they should bring them to the
March meeting.

Ralph Weber took an action item to prepare a project proposal for SAM-4.

8.16   Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) {Project 1562-D} [Elliott]

John Lohmeyer reported that SAS had been published as ANSI INCITS.376:2003. He
congratulated Rob Elliott, the project editor.

8.17   Serial Attached SCSI - 1.1 (SAS-1.1) {Project 1601-D} [Elliott]

Rob Elliott reported on the activities related to SAS-1.1 of the SAS Protocol
working group (minutes in 04-037r0). Revision 3 will incorporate all the
proposals approved by this meeting and will be available in time for the
mailing.

8.18   SCSI Stream Commands - 3 (SSC-3) {Project 1611-D} [Peterson]

In the absence of Dave Peterson, no report was available.


9.     Old Business

There was no old business.


10.    New Business

10.1   MMC-5 Project Proposal (03-358r0) [McFerrin]

Bill McFerrin moved that 03-358r0 be approved as a new project proposal for
MMC-5. Bill Galloway seconded the motion. The motion passed on a two-thirds
vote of 32:0:0:6=38.

John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward 03-358r0 to INCITS for further
processing as a new project proposal for MMC-5.


10.2   Actions on SAS Protocol Working Group Recommendations

George Penokie reviewed the following proposals recommended for inclusion in
SAS-1.1:

03-186r5 (SAS-1.1: Transport Layer Retries) [Elliott/Jones]
03-334r3 (SAS-1.1 ALIGN insertion clarifications) [Elliott]
04-027r1 (SAS 1.1 READY LED signal behavior) [Cox]
04-028r1 (SAS-1.1:Clarify phy disable in route-table initialization)
[Sheffield]
04-036r1 (SAS-1.1:AIP clarifications and XL state transition) [Hoglund]

Rob Elliott moved that 03-186r5, 03-334r3, 04-027r1, 04-028r1, and 04-036r1 be
approved for inclusion in SAS-1.1. Bill Galloway seconded the motion. The
motion passed on a vote of 30:0:1:7=38.

10.3   Actions on CAP Working Group Recommendations

George Penokie reviewed the 03-368r2 (SAM-3 SPC-3 Status precedence) proposal
recommended for inclusion in SAM-3.

Rob Elliott moved that 03-368r2 be approved for inclusion in SAM-3. Bill
Galloway seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 30:0:1:7=38.

George Penokie reviewed the 03-351r2 (SAM-3 SPC-3 Task Attributes VPD page)
proposal recommended for inclusion in SAM-3 and SPC-3.

Rob Elliott moved that 03-351r2 be approved for inclusion in SAM-3 and SPC-3.
Bill Galloway seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 30:0:1:7=38.

George Penokie reviewed the following proposals recommended for inclusion in
SPC-3:

04-043r0 (SPC-3, New ASC/ASCQ for ESI data validation checksum error) [Coomes]
04-022r1 (Additional Sense Code requests for OSD r09) [Weber]
03-316r3 (SPC-3 Mode Page Policy VPD page) [Elliott]
03-167r2 (SPC-3: Remove Element Reservations (AI from SMC-2)) [Butt]
03-232r5 (Modified Reservation Handling Proposal) [Cummings]

Rob Elliott moved that 04-043r0, 04-022r1, 03-316r3, 03-167r2, and 03-232r5 be
approved for inclusion in SPC-3. Bill Galloway seconded the motion. The motion
passed on a vote of 30:0:1:7=38.

George Penokie reviewed the following proposals recommended for inclusion in
SPC-3 and SBC-2:

04-016r2 (SBC-2, SPC-3 Obsolete Third Party XOR Commands) [Coomes]
04-025r0 (SPC-3 and SBC-2 power conditions clarifications) [Evans]

Mark Evans moved that 04-016r2, and 04-025r0 be approved for inclusion in
SPC-3 and SBC-2. Jim Coomes seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote
of 30:0:1:7=38.

George Penokie reviewed the 04-044r0 (OSD Error Handling Model and SPC-3 Sense
Data Descriptors) proposal recommended for inclusion in SPC-3 and OSD.

Ralph Weber moved that 04-044r0 be approved for inclusion in SPC-3 and OSD.
Bill Galloway seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 30:0:1:7=38.

George Penokie reviewed 04-007r0 (SES-2 SPC-3 Generation code for Help Text
and String pages) proposal recommended for inclusion in SPC-3 and SES-2.

Ralph Weber moved that 04-007r0 be approved for inclusion in SPC-3 and SES-2.
Bill Galloway seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 30:0:1:7=38.

George Penokie reviewed the following proposals recommended for inclusion in
SBC-2:

03-387r2 (SBC-2 Data protection usage detection) [Elliott]
04-024r1 (SBC-2 Data Protection Information for XPWRITE) [Coomes]
04-013r1 (SBC-2 List of Functions to Obsolete) [Penokie]

George Penokie moved that 03-387r2, 04-024r1, and 04-013r1 be approved for
inclusion in SBC-2. Rob Elliott seconded the motion. The motion passed on a
vote of 30:0:1:7=38.

10.4   Actions on Other Working Group Recommendations

No recommendations from other working groups were brought to this meeting.


11.    ISO/IEC

11.1   ISO/IEC Report [Robinson]

Gary Robinson presented the ISO/IEC report (04-040r2).

11.2   ISO/IEC Business [Robinson]

11.2.1 T10 Recommendation on JTC 1/SC 25  FDIS 14776-115 (SPI-5)

Gary Robinson moved that T10 recommend the US national body vote be to approve
JTC 1/SC 25  FDIS 14776-115 (SPI-5). John Lohmeyer seconded the motion.

The motion passed with a roll call vote as documented below:

Organization                 Voter                         Vote
Adaptec, Inc.                Tim Symons                    Yes
Agilent Technologies         Pat Thaler                    Yes
Amphenol Interconnect        Michael Wingard               Yes
Andiamo Systems, Inc.                                      (not present)
Brocade                      Robert Snively                Yes
Crossroads Systems, Inc.                                   (not present)
Dallas Semiconductor         Titkwan Hui                   Yes
Dell, Inc.                                                 (not present)
EMC Corp.                    Gary S. Robinson              Yes
Emulex                       Robert H. Nixon               Yes
ENDL                         Ralph O. Weber                Yes
FCI                          Douglas Wagner                Yes
Fujitsu                      Mike Fitzpatrick              Yes
General Dynamics                                           (not present)
Hewlett Packard Co.          Rob Elliott                   Yes
Hitachi Cable Manchester     Zane Daggett                  Yes
Hitachi Global Storage Tech. Dan Colegrove                 Yes
IBM Corp.                    George O. Penokie             Yes
Intel Corp.                  Robert Sheffield              Yes
Iomega Corp.                 David Hawks                   Yes
LSI Logic Corp.              John Lohmeyer                 Yes
Madison Cable Corp.          Ashlie Fan                    Yes
Maxtor Corp.                 Mark Evans                    Yes
Microsoft Corp.              Emily Hill                    Yes
Molex Inc.                                                 (not present)
Panasonic Technologies, Inc  Terence J. Nelson             Yes
Philips Electronics          William P. McFerrin           Yes
Pivot3, Inc.                                               (not present)
QLogic Corp.                 Craig W. Carlson              Yes
Quantum Corp.                Paul Entzel                   Yes
SBS Technologies                                           (not present)
Seagate Technology           Jim Coomes                    Yes
Storage Technology Corp.                                   (not present)
Sun Microsystems, Inc.       Vit Novak                     Yes
Texas Instruments            Robert Kando                  Yes
Toshiba                      Hiroshi Suzuki                Yes
UNISYS                       Phil Shelton                  Yes
Veritas Software             Roger Cummings                Yes

2/3rds vote passed (30:0:0:8=38)

John Lohmeyer took an action item to communicate the recommendation to approve
JTC 1/SC 25  FDIS 14776-115 to INCITS.

11.2.2 FCD Ballot for FCD 14776-222: IT - Small Computer System Interface -
Part 222: Fibre channel protocol for SCSI, second version (FCP-2)

Gary Robinson moved to report that T10 has reviewed FCD 14776-222: IT - Small
Computer System Interface (SCSI) - Part 222: Fibre channel protocol for SCSI,
second version (FCP-2) and recommends that the JTC1/SC25 TAG vote to approve
said FCD. John Lohmeyer seconded the motion.

The motion passed with a roll call vote as documented in item 11.2.1.

Gary Robinson took an action item to communicate the recommendation to approve
FCD 14776-222 to INCITS.

11.2.3 FDIS Ballot for FDIS 14776-150: IT - Small Computer System Interface -
Part 150: Serial Attached SCSI (SAS)

Gary Robinson moved to report that T10 has reviewed FDIS 14776-150: IT - Small
Computer System Interface - Part 150: Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) and
recommends that the JTC1/SC25 TAG vote to approve said FDIS. John Lohmeyer
seconded the motion.

The motion passed with a roll call vote as documented in item 11.2.1.

Gary Robinson took an action item to communicate the recommendation to approve
FDIS 14776-150 to INCITS.

11.2.4 Approval of list of delegates [Robinson]

Gary Robinson moved that T10 recommend Gary Robinson, Bob Snively, and Roger
Cummings as delegates to the JTC1/SC25 meeting for 2004. John Lohmeyer
seconded the motion.

The motion passed with a roll call vote as documented in item 11.2.1.

Gary Robinson took an action item to communicate the T10 JTC1/SC25 delegation
recommendation to the INCITS Executive Board.


12.    Liaison Reports

12.1   T11 Liaison Report [Snively]

Bob Snively presented the T11 liaison report contained in T10/04-041r0.

12.2   T13 Liaison Report [Colegrove]

Dan Colegrove provided an oral report to the committee on the activities of
T13. The T13 committee plans to complete Letter Ballot comment resolution on
ATA/ATAPI-7 by April. The plan for ATA/ATAPI-8 is to remove parallel ATA.

For details regarding T13 activities see www.t13.org.

12.3   SFF Industry Group [Allan]

In the absence of Dal Allan, Alvin Cox reported on the activities of the SFF
group.

12.4   IEEE 1394 [Johansson]

In the absence of Peter Johansson, no report was available.

12.5   SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Czekalski]

Marty Czekalski provided an electronic report on the activities of the SCSI
Trade Association that can be found in 04-047r0.

12.6   IETF SCSI over IP [Black/Robinson]

In the absence of David Black, no report was available.

12.7   SNIA [Cummings]

Roger Cummings reported orally to the committee and provided an electronic
report in 04-045r0.

12.8   SATA II [Cox/open]

The SATA II group has not yet designated an official liaison to T10.

Alvin Cox reported that there will be a face-to-face meeting during the first
week of February. There may still be some technical issues related to voltage
levels. Work is continuing on SATA/SAS connectors.


13.    Review of Action Items

545    David Black will ensure that RFCs are written defining URLs for SNMP,
CIM over HTTP/HTTPS, and SSH.
559    John Lohmeyer will forward SMC-2 revision 7 to INCITS for processing
towards second Public Review.
560    Ralph Weber will prepare a project proposal for SAM-4.
561    John Lohmeyer will forward 03-358r0 to INCITS for further processing as
a new project proposal for MMC-5.
562    John Lohmeyer will communicate the recommendation to approve JTC 1/SC
25 FDIS 14776-115 (SPI-5) to INCITS.
563    Gary Robinson will communicate the recommendation to approve FCD
14776-222 (FCP-2) to INCITS.
564    Gary Robinson will communicate the recommendation to approve FDIS
14776-150 (SAS) to INCITS.
565    Gary Robinson will communicate the T10 JTC1/SC25 delegation
recommendation to the INCITS Executive Board.


14.    Meeting Schedule

The next plenary meeting of T10 will be Thursday March 11, 2004 in Dana Point,
CA at Laguna Cliffs Marriott Hotel (949-661-5000), hosted by QLogic Corp. The
meeting will begin at 9:00 a.m. on Thursday.

The meeting list for the next plenary week is:

                            March 2004 Meeting Map
                             (2004/01/15 Version)
Monday 3/08        9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
                   +=======================================+
                   | ADI WG                                |          (15)
                   +=======================================+
                   | SAS Protocol WG                       |          (40)
                   +=======================================+

Tuesday 3/09   8   9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
                   +========+========+=================+
                   |SCSI Commands, Arch.,                    +========+========+=============+===+
                   | MMC WG                        |                  (15)
                   +========+======+===============+-----------+
                   | ADI WG |FCP WG| T11.5 FAIS WG             |      (30)
                   +--------+------+---------------+-----------+
                   | Plugfest Adm *| STA Marcom *  |                  (20)
                   +---------------+---------------+

Wednesday 3/10     9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
                   +=========================================+
                   | SCSI Commands, Arch.,                    +===============================+=========+
                   | MMC WG                        |                  (15)
                   +=======================+=======+---+
                   | T11.5 FAIS WG         |SFF        |              (30)
                 +-----------------+-------+-------+---+
                 | STA Plenary *   / Plugfest TCC *|                  (20)
                 +-----------------+---------------+

Thursday 3/11  8   9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
                   +=================+===================+
                   | T10 Plenary     | SAM-3 Edit        |         (45/10)
                   +=================+===================+

Friday 3/12    8   9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
                   +================+
                   |SAM-3 Edit      |                               (10)
                   +================+

Meetings marked with == are T10-authorized meetings.
Meetings marked with -- are other groups and may change without notice.
Meetings marked with (*) are STA closed meetings.

 Other T10-authorized meetings:
Meeting         Date                Location / Contact
--------------  ------------------  --------------------------------------
ADI Call        Jan 26 8:00a PST    To be announced via T10 reflector
ADI Call        Feb 9  8:00a PST    To be announced via T10 reflector
ADI Call        Feb 23 8:00a PST    To be announced via T10 reflector
MSC Call        Feb ??, 2004        To be announced via T10 reflector
SAS Prot Calls  TBD                 To be announced via T10 reflector
SAS PHY Calls   TBD                 To be announced via T10 reflector
3rd party       TBD                 To be announced via T10 reflector
persistent
reservations


  Map Abbreviation Key:
ADI:         Automation Drive Interface (tape library interface)
Amnd:        Amendment
CAP:         Commands, Architecture, and Protocols
Fast-80:     Data Transfer at 80 Mega-transfers/sec. (a.k.a., Ultra3,Ultra160)
Fast-160:    Data Transfer at 160 Mega-transfers/sec. (a.k.a., Ultra320)
FC:          Fibre Channel
I/F:         Interface
IETF:        Internet Engineering Task Force (the group that sets
             Internet standards)
iFC:         Internet Fibre Channel
IPS:         Internet Protocol SCSI
iSCSI:       Internet SCSI
LB:          Letter Ballot
MMC:         Multimedia Commands (CD-ROM, DVD, etc.)
OSD:         Object-based Storage Device
Par.:        Parallel (e.g., SPI-n)
PH or PHY:   Physical (Connectors, Cables, Transceivers, etc.)
PIP:         (SCSI) Passive Interconnect Performance
Plenary:     Full Committee Meeting
Res:         Resolution
SAS:         Serial Attached SCSI
SBC-2:       SCSI Block Commands - 2
SBP-3:       Serial Bus Protocol - 3
SCSI:        Small Computer System Interface
SES:         SCSI Enclosure Services
SFF:         SFF Industry Group (not an INCITS activity)
SG:          Study Group
SMC-2:       SCSI Medium Changer - 2 Commands
SPC-3:       SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (3rd generation)
SPI-4:       Fourth Generation SCSI Parallel Interface
SPI-5:       Fifth Generation SCSI Parallel Interface
SRP:         SCSI RDMA Protocol (was SVP)
SRP-2:       SCSI RDMA Protocol (2nd generation)
SSC-2:       SCSI Stream Commands - 2 (includes Tape)
SSM-2:       SCSI Signal Modeling (2nd generation)
SSWGs:       Specific-Subject Working Groups
STA:         SCSI Trade Association (Closed meeting -- not an INCITS activity)
STA Marcom:  STA Marketing Communications (Closed meeting -- not an INCITS
activity)
STA Tech:    STA Technical Meeting (T10 members invited)
STP:         Serial ATA Tunneled Protocol
T10:         SCSI Storage Interfaces Technical Committee
T11:         Device Level Interfaces Technical Committee
WG:          Working Group (same as Ad Hoc Group)


For more information about T10 activities, please contact the following
people:

Activity                     Contact         Telephone/Email
---------------------------- --------------- ------------------------------
ADT                          Paul Entzel     (720) 406-5782
                                             paul.entzel at quantum.com
ADC                          Rod Wideman     (720) 249-5796
                                             rod.wideman at adic.com
SBC-2, SES-2, SAS, SAS-1.1   Rob Elliott     (281) 518-5037
                                             Elliott at hp.com
MMC-4, MMC-5                 Bill McFerrin   (325) 423-1560
                                             billmc at tstar.net
SBP-3                        Peter Johansson (510) 527-3926
                                                  PJohansson at ACM.org
MSC                          George Penokie  (507) 253-5208
                                             gpenokie at tivoli.com
SMC-2                        Erich Oetting   (303) 673-2178
                                             Erich_Oetting at Stortek.com
SPC-3, SAM-2, SAM-3, OSD     Ralph Weber     (214) 912-1373
                                             roweber at acm.org
SSC-2, SSC-3, FCP-2, FCP-3   Dave Peterson   (612) 802-3299
                                             dap at sbs.com
SRP-2                        Cris Simpson    (503) 712-4333
                                             cris.simpson at intel.com
Other Activities             John Lohmeyer   (719) 533-7560
                                             lohmeyer at t10.org

The long-term T10 meeting week schedule is:

Date                Location                   Host/Comments
------------------  -------------------------  -----------------------------
Mar 8-12, 2004      Dana Point, CA             QLogic
May 3-7, 2004       Monterey, CA               Brocade
Jul 12-16, 2004     Colorado Springs, CO       LSI Logic
Sep 13-17, 2004     Nashua, NH                 Hitachi Cable
Nov 8-12, 2004      Austin, TX                 Crossroads
Approved 2005 dates, tentative hosts and locations:
Jan 17-21, 2005
Mar 7-11, 2005      Dana Point, CA             QLogic
May 2-6, 2005
Jul 11-15, 2005     Colorado Springs, CO       LSI Logic
Sep 12-16, 2005
Nov 7-11, 2005      Austin, TX                 Crossroads

John Lohmeyer asked organizations interested hosting one of the meetings in
2005 to contact him.

14.1     Authorization of Working Group Meetings

John noted that the working group meetings are required to operate under the
same voting procedures as does T10 (that is, one vote per organization) and
the results of a working group are not binding on the parent committee. Ad hoc
groups should strive to achieve consensus prior to bringing issues to T10.

John Lohmeyer moved that T10 authorize the T10-related meetings and events in
the list above that had not previously been approved through the end of
February 2004. Bob Snively seconded the motion. In the absence of any
objections, the motion passed unanimously.


15.    Adjournment

John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the meeting be adjourned. In
the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously. The meeting was
adjourned at 10:45 a.m. on Thursday January 15, 2004.
Enclosure(1) -- Meeting Attendees

         Name          S        Organization         Electronic Mail Address
---------------------- -- ------------------------- -------------------------
Mr. Tim Symons         P  Adaptec, Inc.             Timothy_Symons at adaptec.
                                                    com
Ms. Pat Thaler         P  Agilent Technologies      pat_thaler at agilent.com
Mr. Neil Wanamaker     AV AMCC                      nwanamaker at amcc.com
Mr. Michael Wingard    P  Amphenol Interconnect     mike.wingard at aipce.com
Mr. Robert Snively     P  Brocade Comm. Systems,    rsnively at brocade.com
                          Inc.
Mr. Titkwan Hui        A  Dallas Semiconductor      tk.hui at dalsemi.com
Mr. Gary S. Robinson   P  EMC Corp.                 robinson_gary at emc.com
Mr. Robert H. Nixon    P  Emulex                    bob.nixon at emulex.com
Mr. Ralph O. Weber     P  ENDL Texas                roweber at ieee.org
Mr. Douglas Wagner     P  FCI                       dwagner at fciconnect.com
Mr. Mike Fitzpatrick   P  Fujitsu                   mfitzpatrick at fcpa.
                                                    fujitsu.com
Mr. Tim Mackley        A  General Dynamics          timothy.mackley at gd-ais.
                                                    com
Mr. Rob Elliott        P  Hewlett Packard Co.       Elliott at hp.com
Mr. Zane Daggett       P  Hitachi Cable Manchester  zdaggett at hcm.hitachi.com
Mr. Dan Colegrove      P  Hitachi Global Storage    daniel.colegrove at hgst.com
                          Tech.
Mr. Werner Glinka      A  Hitachi Global Storage    werner.glinka at attglobal.
                          Tech.                     net
Mr. George O. Penokie  P  IBM / Tivoli Systems      gop at us.ibm.com
Mr. Robert Sheffield   P  Intel Corp.               robert.l.sheffield at intel.
                                                    com
Mr. David Hawks        A  Iomega Corp.              hawks at iomega.com
Mr. Dennis Moore       AV KnowledgeTek, Inc.        dmoore at ix.netcom.com
Mr. John Lohmeyer      P  LSI Logic Corp.           lohmeyer at t10.org
Ms. Ashlie Fan         P  Madison Cable Corp.       afan at madisoncable.com
Mr. Doug Cole          V  Maxim/Dallas              doug.cole at dalsemi.com
                          Semiconductor
Mr. Mark Evans         P  Maxtor Corp.              mark_evans at maxtor.com
Ms. Emily Hill         P  Microsoft Corp.           emhill at microsoft.com
Mr. Jay Neer           P  Molex Inc.                jneer at molex.com
Dr. Terence J. Nelson  P  Panasonic Technologies,   terry at tjnelson.com
                          Inc
Mr. William P.         P  Philips Electronics/CD    billmc at tstar.net
McFerrin                  Edge
Mr. Bill Galloway      P  Pivot3, Inc.              billg at pivot3.com
Mr. Craig W. Carlson   A# QLogic Corp.              craig.carlson at qlogic.com
Mr. Skip Jones         P  QLogic Corp.              skip.jones at qlogic.com
Mr. Paul Entzel        P  Quantum Corp.             paul.entzel at quantum.com
Mr. Jim Coomes         A  Seagate Technology        jim.coomes at seagate.com
Mr. Alvin Cox          V  Seagate Technology        Alvin.Cox at seagate.com
Dr. Paul Suhler        V  Seagate Technology        Paul.A.Suhler at certance.
                                                    com
Mr. Vit Novak          P  Sun Microsystems, Inc.    vit.novak at sun.com
Mr. Robert Kando       A  Texas Instruments         Robert_Kando at ti.com
Mr. Hiroshi Suzuki     P  Toshiba                   hiroshi.suzuki at tais.
                                                    toshiba.com
Mr. Phil Shelton       A  UNISYS Corporation        phil.shelton at unisys.com
Mr. Roger Cummings     P  Veritas Software          roger.cummings at veritas.
                                                    com

40 People Present

Status Key:  P    -  Principal
             A,A# -  Alternate
             AV   -  Advisory Member
             L    -  Liaison
             V    -  Visitor
 
*
* For T10 Reflector information, send a message with
* 'info t10' (no quotes) in the message body to majordomo at t10.org




More information about the T10 mailing list