Draft minutes of T10 Plenary Meeting #56 -- July 10, 2003

John Lohmeyer lohmeyer at t10.org
Tue Jul 15 14:46:15 PDT 2003


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 T10 Plenary Minutes Accredited Standards Committee*
InterNational Committee for Information Technology Standards (INCITS)

                                                      Doc. No.: T10/03-248r0
                                                          Date: July 15, 2003
                                                      Reply to: John Lohmeyer

To:       T10 Membership
From:     Ralph Weber / John Lohmeyer
Subject:  Minutes of T10 Plenary Meeting #56 -- July 10, 2003
          Colorado Springs, CO
Agenda

1.     Opening Remarks
2.     Approval of Agenda
3.     Attendance and Membership
4.     Approval of Minutes - May 2003 Meeting - Nashua, NH (T10/03-179r0)
5.     Document Distribution
6.     Call for Patents
7.     Review of Old Action Items
8.     Project Status Reports
8.1      Project Status Summary and INCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]
8.1.1      INCITS Antitrust Guidelines
8.2      Object-based Storage Devices Commands (OSD) {Project 1355-D} [Weber]
8.3      SCSI Medium Changer Commands - 2 (SMC-2) {Project 1383-D} [Oetting]
8.4      SCSI Primary Commands - 3 (SPC-3) {Project 1416-D} [Weber]
8.5      SCSI Block Commands - 2 (SBC-2) {Project 1417-D} [Elliott]
8.6      SCSI Stream Commands - 2 (SSC-2) {Project 1434-D} [Peterson]
8.7      SCSI Passive Interconnect Performance (PIP) {Project 1439-D}
[Daggett]
8.8      SCSI Serial Bus Protocol -3 (SBP-3) {Project 1467-D} [Johansson]
8.9      SCSI Signal Modeling - 2 (SSM-2) {Project 1514-D} [Aloisi/Manildi]
8.10     SCSI RDMA Protocol - 2 (SRP-2) {Project 1524-D} [Simpson]
8.11     SCSI Parallel Interface - 5 (SPI-5) {Project 1525-D} [Penokie]
8.12     SCSI Management Server Commands (MSC) {Project 1528-D}
[Penokie/Elliott]
8.13     MultiMedia Command Set - 4 (MMC-4) {Project 1545-D} [McFerrin]
8.14     Automation/Drive Interface - Transport Protocol (ADT) {Project
1557-D} [Entzel]
8.15     Automation/Drive Interface - Commands (ADC) {Project 1558-D}
[Entzel/Wideman]
8.16     SCSI Enclosure Services - 2 (SES-2) {Project 1559-D} [Elliott]
8.17     Fibre Channel Protocol - 3 (FCP-3) {Project 1560-D} [Peterson]
8.18     SCSI Architecture Model - 3 (SAM-3) {Project 1561-D} [Weber]
8.19     Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) {Project 1562-D} [Elliott]
8.20     Serial Attached SCSI - 1.1 (SAS-1.1) {Project 1601-D} [Elliott]
8.21     SCSI Stream Commands - 3 (SSC-3) {Project 1611-D} [Peterson]
9.     Old Business
9.1      ANSI INCITS 330-2000 Defect Report (03-021r0) (RBC AM1) [Atkinson,
Roberts]
10.    New Business
10.1     Actions on SAS Protocol Working Group Recommendations
10.2     Actions on CAP Working Group Recommendations
10.3     Actions on Other Working Group Recommendations
11.    ISO/IEC
11.1     ISO/IEC Report (03-238r1) [Robinson]
11.2     ISO/IEC Business [Robinson]
12.    Liaison Reports
12.1     T11 Liaison Report (03-252r0) [Snively]
12.2     T13 Liaison Report [Colegrove]
12.3     SFF Industry Group [Allan]
12.4     IEEE 1394 [Johansson]
12.5     SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Czekalski]
12.6     IETF SCSI over IP [Black/Robinson]
12.7     SNIA [Cummings]
12.8     SATA II [open/Cox]
13.    Review of Action Items
14.    Meeting Schedule
14.1       Authorization of Working Group Meetings
15.    Adjournment


Results of Meeting


1.     Opening Remarks

John Lohmeyer, the T10 Chair, called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m.,
Thursday July 10, 2003. He thanked LSI Logic for hosting the meeting.

John said that INCITS subgroup membership forms and the T10 document
subscription forms are available on the meeting web site. He said that people
should use these forms to ensure the INCITS Secretariat has the latest
membership information. These forms should be mailed directly to the INCITS
Secretariat.

As is customary, the people attending introduced themselves and a copy of the
attendance list was circulated. Copies of the draft agenda and general
information on T10 were made available to those attending.


2.     Approval of Agenda

No additions/changes were made to the draft agenda.

John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the agenda be approved. In
the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously.

No items were added/revised during the course of the meeting.


3.     Attendance and Membership

The membership requirements were reviewed. INCITS rules permit one vote per
organization. An individual from a new organization must attend two out of
three consecutive plenary meetings. He/she may apply for voting membership the
second meeting via a letter to the Chair of T10. The individual may begin
voting at the beginning of his/her second meeting.

To maintain membership, organizations must pay the INCITS Service Fee ($800).

John briefly discussed the mailing fees. Complete pricing information is
contained in the 2003 membership form (available at
ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/mem_form.txt).

There are also minimum attendance requirements to maintain voting membership
on T10. If a member organization fails to attend two of the last three T10
meetings, they are warned that failing to attend the next T10 meeting would
result in their membership being terminated.

The Chair said he had sent letters to 4 people from 3 organizations informing
them that their membership was in jeopardy due to non-attendance (see
03-194r0) and that their membership would be terminated if they did not attend
this meeting. The following organizations were in attendance jeopardy:

Cisco Systems, Inc.
Honda Connectors
KnowledgeTek, Inc.

The following organizations were not present at the meeting:

Cisco Systems, Inc.

The members from the organizations that failed to attend will have their
membership changed to non-voting status.

The following organizations joined the committee at this meeting:

Agilent Technologies

The T10 membership during the meeting was 42 organizations unchanged from the
42 member organizations prior to the meeting. Enclosure (1) is the list of the
people present at the meeting and enclosure (2) is the current T10 membership
list.

John Lohmeyer reminded members that failure to vote on two out of the last
three letter ballots also would result in membership jeopardy and then noted
that the status of companies that have not voted on recent letter ballots is
contained in 03-213r0. John stated that Cisco Systems, Inc. and Honda Connectors
are in letter ballot jeopardy.


4.     Approval of Minutes - May 2003 Meeting - Nashua, NH (T10/03-179r0)

John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the minutes be approved. In
the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously.


5.     Document Distribution

Members who have any problems with their mailing subscription should deal
directly with Parthenia Purnell (ppurnell at itic.org) (202) 626-5741. A
subscription form is included on the meeting disk.

John Lohmeyer requested that all documents for the next mailing be uploaded to
the T10 web site by 10:30 a.m. on Thursday July 17, 2003. Documents received
after this time may go into a subsequent mailing.

John reminded the committee of the requirements for document submission. Since
T10 meets its document retention requirements by preparing mailings, documents
included in the mailing must be suitable for archiving. This means that
native-format and/or Portable Document Format (PDF) electronic originals with
proper identification must be submitted.

People can obtain T10 document numbers and revised T10 document numbers by
filling out a web form at http://www.t10.org/members/. The assigned T10
document number will be sent to the requestor by e-mail. The requestor may
then reply to this email, including the document to be posted as an
attachment. The document will be automatically posted on the T10 web site.

T10 members can complete this entire process using their personal T10
password. John explained that members who do not know their password should
surf to the above URL and click on the "forgot password" link to have their
password sent to them via e-mail.

John noted that non-members can also use the above document number process,
but their requests will require approval by an administrator.

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There is also a mirror site at:

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The T10 document register is available at:

ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/dr.txt


6.     Call for Patents

This is a regular agenda item to identify any potential patent issues with
developing standards and technical reports.

A document is available from ANSI, "Procedures for the Development and
Coordination of American National Standards", at no charge. This document is
also on the WWW at http://www.incits.org/help/ansi_sdo.html. Section 1.2.11
contains the ANSI patent policy. Amy Marasco manages patent issues for ANSI
and can be contacted at amarasco at ansi.org or 212-642-4954. Gene Milligan
prepared a useful "Handy dandy Technical Committee's Patents Guide", which is
available at ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/document.99/99-291r0.pdf.

John Lohmeyer presented a summary of the ANSI patent policy prepared by Gary
Robinson. The summary is also included on the Rules and Procedures (plus
Patent Information) page on the T10 web site.

John Lohmeyer noted that he had received a letter from Ron Silletti of IBM
disclosing IBM's patent position regarding the ADI draft standards (see
03-241r0).

Cris Simpson reminded the committee that a statement of the Intel patent
policy can be found in T10/01-041r0.

John asked that anyone who knows of other applicable patents to contact him.

There were no responses to the call for patents other than those mentioned
above.


7.     Review of Old Action Items

519    Ralph Weber will notify Gary Robinson that the SAM-2 ISO revision can
be found at ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/drafts/sam2/sam2i25.pdf. Carry over.
527    Peter Johansson will prepare SBP-3 revision 4 for forwarding to first
public review. Complete.
528    John Lohmeyer will forward SBP-3 to INCITS for further processing
towards first public review. Complete.
529    Rob Elliott will prepare SAS revision 4 for forwarding to first public
review. Complete.
530    John Lohmeyer will contact Microsoft Corporation regarding the
disposition of their No vote on the SAS letter ballot. Complete.
531    John Lohmeyer will forward SAS revision 4 to INCITS for processing
toward first public review. Complete.
532    John Lohmeyer will notify SATA II that Alvin Cox will be the T10
liaison to the SATA II PHY group. Complete.


8.     Project Status Reports

8.1    Project Status Summary and INCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]

John Lohmeyer said that the current T10 project status summary was included on
the meeting web site and will be included in the mailing as usual.

John Lohmeyer reported that Bob Davis, who was our INCITS liaison, has been
laid off and has resigned from the T10 committee.

Terry Nelson reported that INCITS will be meeting next week at Oracle in the
bay area.

John reported that Monica Vago left INCITS and Kate McMillan passed away.

8.1.1  INCITS Antitrust Guidelines

All T10 members should be aware of the INCITS antitrust guidelines available
at http://www.incits.org/natrust.htm.

John reminded committee members that all persons present at a T10 meeting is
responsible for identifying potential violations of the antitrust guidelines
and reporting them to the chair. Discussions of the following topics are
considered sensitive:

    * Any company's prices or pricing policies;
    * Specific R;
    * Any company's confidential product, product development or production
    strategies;
    * Whether certain suppliers or customers will be served;
    * Prices paid to input sources; or
    * Complaints about individual firms or other actions that might tend to
    hinder a competitor in any market.

8.2    Object-based Storage Devices Commands (OSD) {Project 1355-D} [Weber]

Ralph Weber reported that OSD revisions 7 and 7a were uploaded to the T10 web
site in June. The substantive content of the two revisions is identical but
revision 7 contains editing markings to show the text that has been removed
since revision 6.

Ralph Weber moved that OSD revision 7a be accepted as a committee draft. Cris
Simpson seconded the motion. In the absence of any objections, the motion
passed unanimously.

8.3    SCSI Medium Changer Commands - 2 (SMC-2) {Project 1383-D} [Oetting]

Erich Oetting reported on the activities of the SMC-2 working group (minutes
in 03-255). He stated that a motion to forward SMC-2 to first Public Review is
anticipated at the September meeting.

8.4    SCSI Primary Commands - 3 (SPC-3) {Project 1416-D} [Weber]

Ralph Weber reported that revision 14 of SPC-3 will be available in time for
the mailing and will contain all the proposals approved by this meeting as
well as the results of the SPC-3 editing meetings held this week.

Ralph Weber reminded the committee that the target Letter Ballot date for
SPC-3 is November 2003.

Ralph reported that the editing review meetings for SPC-3 have completed all
planned tasks except review of the Persistent Reservations material. Based on
the number of outstanding proposals regarding Persistent Reservations, the
editing team has decided to skip reviewing that material. As a result, the
SPC-3 editing review is now concluded.

8.5    SCSI Block Commands - 2 (SBC-2) {Project 1417-D} [Elliott]

Rob Elliott reported that SBC-2 r09 has been posted and will be included in
the next mailing. Rob asked committee members to prepare for an SBC-2 editing
meeting to be held during the November meeting week.

8.6    SCSI Stream Commands - 2 (SSC-2) {Project 1434-D} [Peterson]

Dave Peterson reported that the CAP working group (minutes in 03-247r0) has
recommended accepting 02-081r8 as the resolution for the SSC-2 Letter Ballot
comments and forwarding SSC-2 r09 for first Public Review.

On behalf of the CAP working group, Cris Simpson moved that 02-081r8 be
accepted as containing the resolution for the SSC-2 Letter Ballot comments,
that SSC-2 revision 09 be accepted as containing the agreed resolutions for
the Letter Ballot comments, and that SSC-2 revision 09 be forward to INCITS
for processing towards first Public Review. The motion passed on a vote of
26:0:0:16=42, meeting the two-thirds rule.

Based on the successful resolution of their Letter Ballot comments, Ralph
Weber, George Penokie, Paul Entzel, and Gerry Houlder requested that their No
votes on the Letter Ballot be changed to Yes.

John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward SSC-2 revision 09 to INCITS for
processing towards first Public Review.

8.7    SCSI Passive Interconnect Performance (PIP) {Project 1439-D} [Daggett]

John Lohmeyer reported that PIP had been published as ANSI INCITS.368:2003. He
congratulated Zane Daggett and Bill Ham for their hard work on completing this
standard.

When Bill Ham reported that he had not yet received a courtesy copy of EPI,
John Lohmeyer took an action item to contact INCITS regarding courtesy copies
of EPI, PIP, SSM-2, and SPI-5.

8.8    SCSI Serial Bus Protocol -3 (SBP-3) {Project 1467-D} [Johansson]

John Lohmeyer reported that the Public Review for SBP-3 closed on July 7th and
no comments are known to have been received. He stated that Peter Johansson
mentioned an outstanding issue. John was waiting for a response from Peter on
whether to continue the SBP-3 processing or to request a second public review
on a revised SBP-3.

8.9    SCSI Signal Modeling - 2 (SSM-2) {Project 1514-D} [Aloisi/Manildi]

John Lohmeyer reported that SSM-2 had been published as ANSI INCITS.369:2003.
He congratulated Paul Aloisi, Bruce Manildi, and Larry Barnes for their hard
work on completing this standard.

8.10   SCSI RDMA Protocol - 2 (SRP-2) {Project 1524-D} [Simpson]

Cris Simpson reported on the SRP-2 First Burst support and multi-channel model
activities conduced in the CAP working group (minutes in 03-247r0).

8.11   SCSI Parallel Interface - 5 (SPI-5) {Project 1525-D} [Penokie]

John Lohmeyer reported that SPI-5 had been published as ANSI INCITS.367:2003.
He congratulated George Penokie for his hard work on completing this standard.

8.12   SCSI Management Server Commands (MSC) {Project 1528-D}
[Penokie/Elliott]

George Penokie reported that the CAP working group (minutes in 03-247r0) has
recommended that the MSC project be withdrawn unless proposals for MSC content
are received by the November meeting week. He noted that the working group
also recommended making announcements to this effect as part of both this
meeting week and the September meeting week.

George Penokie took an action item to announce on the T10 Reflector the T10
intention to withdraw the MSC project unless proposals for MSC content are
received by the November T10 meeting week. George Penokie took an action item
to announce on the T10 Reflector during the September T10 meeting week the T10
intention to withdraw the MSC project unless proposals for MSC content are
received by the November T10 meeting week.

8.13   MultiMedia Command Set - 4 (MMC-4) {Project 1545-D} [McFerrin]

Bill McFerrin reported on the activities of the MMC-4 working group. He noted
that MMC-4 r02 and r02a have been posted since the last meeting and will be
available in the next meeting. He stated that the November Letter Ballot date
is in jeopardy.

Bill McFerrin moved that SPC-3 version descriptors be assigned for ATAPI-6,
ATAPI-7, USB-1, USB-2, and USB Mass. Ron Roberts seconded the motion. In the
absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously.

Bill McFerrin took an action item provide the SPC-3 Editor with document
references for USB-1, USB-2, and USB Mass.

8.14   Automation/Drive Interface - Transport Protocol (ADT) {Project 1557-D}
[Entzel]

Paul Entzel reported on the activities of the ADI working group (minutes in
03-236). He stated that new revisions of ADC and ADT will be prepared soon and
that the new ADT will be finished in time for the mailing.

He noted that ADC is not quite ready for Letter Ballot after this meeting, as
previously planned. Paul stated that the goal is to hold the ADC Letter Ballot
before or immediately after the September meeting, and the ADT Letter Ballot
after that.

8.15   Automation/Drive Interface - Commands (ADC) {Project 1558-D}
[Entzel/Wideman]

This topic was covered in item 8.14.

8.16   SCSI Enclosure Services - 2 (SES-2) {Project 1559-D} [Elliott]

Rob Elliott reported on the SES-2 activities undertaken in the CAP working
group (minutes in 03-247r0). He stated that revision 3 containing changes
approved by the last meeting has been posted and that revision 4 containing
changes approved by this meeting will be posted in time for the next mailing.

8.17   Fibre Channel Protocol - 3 (FCP-3) {Project 1560-D} [Peterson]

Dave Peterson reported that FCP-3 r01 has been posted for inclusion in the
next mailing. He informed the committee that the first FCP-3 working group
meeting will be held during the September T10 meeting week.

8.18   SCSI Architecture Model - 3 (SAM-3) {Project 1561-D} [Weber]

Ralph Weber reported that revision 8 will be available in time for the
mailing. He noted that no SAM-3 changes are on the agenda for approval by this
meeting, but that a new SAM-3 revision is needed to correct a non-substantive
conflict between the QErr definitions in SPC-3 and SAM-3.

8.19   Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) {Project 1562-D} [Elliott]

John Lohmeyer reported that the SAS first Public Review closed on July 7th
with no comments received.

Rob Elliott reported on the SAS-related activities of the SAS Protocol working
group (minutes in 03-246r0). He noted that two sets of proposed SAS changes are
on the agenda for consideration under item 10.1 and that the result of
approving these changes, as recommended by the SAS working group, will be a
second Public Review for SAS.

Rob noted that SAS r05 has been posted and will be available for the next
mailing.

8.20   Serial Attached SCSI - 1.1 (SAS-1.1) {Project 1601-D} [Elliott]

Rob Elliott reported on the activities related to SAS-1.1 of the SAS Protocol
working group (minutes in 03-246r0).

He stated that SAS-1.1 r00, which will be identical to SAS r05, will be
uploaded in time for the next mailing.

8.21   SCSI Stream Commands - 3 (SSC-3) {Project 1611-D} [Peterson]

Dave Peterson reported that the SSC-3 working group plans to ask for meeting
time during the November meeting week.


9.     Old Business

9.1    ANSI INCITS 330-2000 Defect Report (03-021r0) (RBC AM1) [Atkinson,
Roberts]

John Lohmeyer reported that the RBC Amendment letter ballot passed
37:0:3:2=42. Two yes ballots (Weber and Lohmeyer) included editorial comments.
Since there were no unresolved negatives, RBC AM1 automatically went to INCITS
for management review and first public review (expected to start in
mid-August). The editorial comments received from Weber and Lohmeyer will be
dealt with during the ANSI pre-publication edit.


10.    New Business

10.1   Actions on SAS Protocol Working Group Recommendations

John Lohmeyer described the following proposals recommended for inclusion in
SAS by the SAS Protocol working group:

       03-223r1 (SAS Changes from SAS-R04 to SAS-R05) [Elliott]
       03-228r2 (SAS: Notify primitive issues) [Penokie]

He noted that both proposals contain substantive changes to the SAS dpANS
following first Public Review and that both proposals were unanimously
recommended for inclusion in SAS r05. He reminded the committee that one of
the recommended changes was to increase the output signal levels.

Rob Elliott moved that 03-223r1 and 03-228r2 be approved for inclusion in SAS
r05. Gerry Houlder seconded the motion. In the absence of any objections, the
motion passed unanimously.

John Lohmeyer moved that SAS revision 05, containing the substantive changes,
be forwarded to INCITS for processing toward second Public Review. Mark Evans
seconded the motion. The motion passed on a roll call vote of 30:0:0:12:=42,
meeting the two-thirds rule. Details of the roll call vote were as follows:

Organization                 Stat Name                   Yes No Abs NP
Adaptec, Inc.                P    Mr. Ron Roberts         1
Agilent Technologies         P    Ms. Pat Thaler          1
Amphenol Interconnect        P    Mr. Michael Wingard     1
Andiamo Systems, Inc.        P    Dr. Claudio DeSanti     1
Brocade Comm. Systems, Inc.  P    Mr. Robert Snively      1
Congruent Software, Inc.                                            1
Crossroads Systems, Inc.                                            1
Dallas Semiconductor         P    Mr. James A. Lott, Jr.  1
Dell Computer Corp.          P    Mr. Kevin Marks         1
EMC Corp.                    P    Mr. Gary S. Robinson    1
Emulex                       P    Mr. Robert H. Nixon     1
ENDL Texas                   P    Mr. Ralph O. Weber      1
FCI                          P    Mr. Douglas Wagner      1
Fujitsu                      P    Mr. Mike Fitzpatrick    1
General Dynamics                                                    1
Hewlett Packard Co.          P    Mr. Rob Elliott         1
Hitachi Cable Manchester                                            1
Hitachi Global Storage Tech. P    Mr. Dan Colegrove       1
Honda Connectors                                                    1
IBM / Tivoli Systems         P    Mr. George O. Penokie   1
Intel Corp.                  P    Mr. Cris Simpson        1
Iomega Corp.                 P    Mr. Hiromichi Oribe     1
KnowledgeTek, Inc.           P    Mr. Dennis Moore        1
LSI Logic Corp.              P    Mr. John Lohmeyer       1
Madison Cable Corp.                                                 1
Maxtor Corp.                 P    Mr. Mark Evans          1
Microsoft Corp.              P    Ms. Emily Hill          1
Molex Inc.                                                          1
Network Appliance Inc.                                              1
Panasonic Technologies, Inc  P    Dr. Terence J. Nelson   1
Philips Electronics/CD Edge  P    Mr. William P. McFerrin 1
Pivot3, Inc.                                                        1
QLogic Corp.                 A#   Mr. Craig W. Carlson    1
Quantum Corp.                P    Mr. Paul Entzel         1
Seagate Technology           P    Mr. Gerald Houlder      1
Storage Technology Corp.     P    Mr. Erich Oetting       1
Sun Microsystems, Inc.       P    Mr. Vit Novak           1
Texas Instruments            A.   Mr. Robert Kando        1
Toshiba                                                             1
UNISYS Corporation                                                  1
Veritas Software                                                    1
Vixel Corp.                  P    Mr. Kenneth Hirata      1

                                                         30  0   0  12 = 42

John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward SAS revision 05 for processing
toward second Public Review.

10.2   Actions on CAP Working Group Recommendations

George Penokie described the following proposals recommended for inclusion in
SPC-3:

03-203r0 (SPC-3: TransportID Cleanup) [Weber]
03-209r0 (Limiting the MD5 logical unit identifier to logical units) [Weber]
03-227r1 (Add additional sense code values to SPC-3 for ADC) [Entzel]
03-230r3 (Persistent All Registrants Fix) [Penokie]

It was noted that 03-227r1 and 03-230r3 were modified by the CAP working group
(minutes in 03-247r0) and that all the proposals were approved unanimously
except 03-227r1 where an 18:0:2 approval vote was recorded.

Ralph Weber moved that 03-203r0, 03-209r0, 03-227r1, and 03-230r3 be approved
for inclusion in SPC-3. Mark Evans seconded the motion. The motion passed on a
vote of 30:0:0:12=42.

Rob Elliott described the following proposals recommended for inclusion in
SES-2:

03-215r0 (SES-2 Array Control and Status changes) [Elliott] {12:0:4}
03-214r1 (SES-2 Updated SAS Device Element Status descriptor) [Elliott] {r0 as
modified, 14:0:4}

It was noted that 03-215r0 was recommended by a 12:0:4 vote. It was noted that
03-214r1 was modified by the CAP working group (minutes in 03-247r0) and
recommended by a 14:0:4 vote.

Rob Elliott moved that 03-215r0 and 03-214r1 be approved for inclusion in
SES-2. Mark Evans seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of
30:0:0:12=42.

Rob Elliott took an action item to send a warning message to the T10 Reflector
regarding the removal of the SES Array Control and Array Status pages. Rob
Elliott took an action item to send a warning message to the T10 Reflector in
September regarding the removal of the SES Array Control and Array Status
pages. Rob Elliott took an action item to prepare a proposal updating the SAS
Device Element Status descriptor based on discussions in the CAP working
group.

10.3   Actions on Other Working Group Recommendations

No recommendations from other working groups were brought to this meeting.


11.    ISO/IEC

11.1   ISO/IEC Report (03-238r1) [Robinson]

Gary Robinson provided an electronic report in 03-238r1.

Bob Snively took an action item to provide the ISO format SES PDF and sources
to the IR.

11.2   ISO/IEC Business [Robinson]

Gary Robinson reported that Bob Snively has agreed to go to the ISO meeting as
the U.S. head of delegation.

Gary Robinson moved that T10 recommend Gary Robinson and Bob Snively as
delegates to the JTC1/SC25 meeting for 2003. Bob Snively seconded the motion.
The motion passed on a roll call vote of 31:0:0:11=42. The detailed results of
the roll call vote were as follows:

Organization                 Stat Name                   Yes No Abs NP
Adaptec, Inc.                P    Mr. Ron Roberts         1
Agilent Technologies         P    Ms. Pat Thaler          1
Amphenol Interconnect        P    Mr. Michael Wingard     1
Andiamo Systems, Inc.        P    Dr. Claudio DeSanti     1
Brocade Comm. Systems, Inc.  P    Mr. Robert Snively      1
Congruent Software, Inc.                                            1
Crossroads Systems, Inc.                                            1
Dallas Semiconductor         P    Mr. James A. Lott, Jr.  1
Dell Computer Corp.          P    Mr. Kevin Marks         1
EMC Corp.                    P    Mr. Gary S. Robinson    1
Emulex                       P    Mr. Robert H. Nixon     1
ENDL Texas                   P    Mr. Ralph O. Weber      1
FCI                          P    Mr. Douglas Wagner      1
Fujitsu                      P    Mr. Mike Fitzpatrick    1
General Dynamics                                                    1
Hewlett Packard Co.          P    Mr. Rob Elliott         1
Hitachi Cable Manchester                                            1
Hitachi Global Storage Tech. P    Mr. Dan Colegrove       1
Honda Connectors                                                    1
IBM / Tivoli Systems         P    Mr. George O. Penokie   1
Intel Corp.                  P    Mr. Cris Simpson        1
Iomega Corp.                 P    Mr. Hiromichi Oribe     1
KnowledgeTek, Inc.           P    Mr. Dennis Moore        1
LSI Logic Corp.              P    Mr. John Lohmeyer       1
Madison Cable Corp.                                                 1
Maxtor Corp.                 P    Mr. Mark Evans          1
Microsoft Corp.              P    Ms. Emily Hill          1
Molex Inc.                   P    Mr. Jay Neer            1
Network Appliance Inc.                                              1
Panasonic Technologies, Inc  P    Dr. Terence J. Nelson   1
Philips Electronics/CD Edge  P    Mr. William P. McFerrin 1
Pivot3, Inc.                                                        1
QLogic Corp.                 A#   Mr. Craig W. Carlson    1
Quantum Corp.                P    Mr. Paul Entzel         1
Seagate Technology           P    Mr. Gerald Houlder      1
Storage Technology Corp.     P    Mr. Erich Oetting       1
Sun Microsystems, Inc.       P    Mr. Vit Novak           1
Texas Instruments            A.   Mr. Robert Kando        1
Toshiba                                                             1
UNISYS Corporation                                                  1
Veritas Software                                                    1
Vixel Corp.                  P    Mr. Kenneth Hirata      1

                                                         31  0   0  11 = 42

Gary Robinson took an action item to communicate the T10 JTC1/SC25 delegation
recommendation to the INCITS Executive Board.


12.    Liaison Reports

12.1   T11 Liaison Report (03-252r0) [Snively]

Bob Snively presented the T11 liaison report contained in T10/03-252r0.

12.2   T13 Liaison Report [Colegrove]

Dan Colegrove provided an oral report to the committee on the activities of
T13. For details see www.t13.org.

12.3   SFF Industry Group [Allan]

In the absence of Dal Allan, Vit Novak reported on two SFF SSWG meetings. One
SSWG was on single voltage drives the other was on four-lane SAS internal
cabling and connectors.

12.4   IEEE 1394 [Johansson]

In the absence of Peter Johansson, there was no report.

12.5   SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Czekalski]

Marty Czekalski provided an electronic report on the activities of the SCSI
Trade Association that can be found in 03-256r0.

12.6   IETF SCSI over IP [Black/Robinson]

David Black reported that IETF work on iSCSI has gotten to the point where no
meeting will be held during the IETF meeting next week. He noted that
assignment of an iSCSI RFC is pending completion work on a couple of security
drafts.

12.7   SNIA [Cummings]

In the absence of Roger Cummings, David Black reported that SMI-S version 1.0
has been published and work is in progress to fast track it through INCITS.
Technical development is in progress on SMI-S version 1.1 with a goal of
completing the technical work by early fall.

12.8   SATA II [open/Cox]

The SATA II group has not yet designated an official liaison to T10. John
Lohmeyer noted that an effort is underway to get a waiver to protect SATA II
liaisons from liability regarding disclosing confidential information obtained
at SATA II meetings.

Alvin Cox reported on the four lane internal connection work, work on new
speed definitions, increased signal launch levels, and SATA backplane
applications.

John and Alvin discussed future requirements for liaisons between SATA II and
SAS. John and Alvin discussed future meeting requirements for the SAS Phy
working group.

13.    Review of Action Items

519    Ralph Weber will notify Gary Robinson that the SAM-2 ISO revision can
be found at ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/drafts/sam2/sam2i25.pdf.
533    George Penokie will announce on the T10 Reflector the T10 intention to
withdraw the MSC project unless proposals for MSC content are received by the
November T10 meeting week.
534    George Penokie will announce on the T10 Reflector during the September
T10 meeting week the T10 intention to withdraw the MSC project unless
proposals for MSC content are received by the November T10 meeting week.
535    John Lohmeyer will forward SSC-2 revision 09 to INCITS for processing
towards first Public Review.
536    John Lohmeyer will forward SAS revision 05 for processing toward second
Public Review.
537    John Lohmeyer will contact INCITS regarding courtesy copies of EPI,
PIP, SSM-2, and SPI-5.
538    Bill McFerrin took an action item provide the SPC-3 editor with
document references for USB-1, USB-2, and USB Mass.
539    Rob Elliott will send a warning message to the T10 Reflector regarding
the removal of the SES Array Control and Array Status pages.
540    Rob Elliott will send a warning message to the T10 Reflector in
September regarding the removal of the SES Array Control and Array Status
pages.
541    Rob Elliott will prepare a proposal updating the SAS Device Element
Status descriptor based on discussions in the CAP working group.
542    Bob Snively will provide the ISO format SES PDF and sources to the IR.
544    Gary Robinson will communicate the T10 JTC1/SC25 delegation
recommendation to the INCITS Executive Board.


14.    Meeting Schedule

The next plenary meeting of T10 will be Thursday September 11, 2003 in
Seattle, WA at the Renaissance Hotel (800-278-4159), hosted by Microsoft Corp.
The meeting will begin at 9:00 a.m. on Thursday.

The meeting list for the next plenary week is:

                          September 2003 Meeting Map
                             (2003/07/10 Version)
Monday 9/08        9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
                   +=======================================+
                   | SMC-2 / ADI WG                        |          (15)
                   +=================+=====================+
                                     | SAS Protocol WG     |          (40)
                   +=================+=====================+
                   | SAS PHY WG                            |          (20)
                   +=======================================+

Tuesday 9/09   8   9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
                   +========+========+================+
                   |SAS Prot|FCP-3 WG| SCSI CAP WG    |               (40)
                   +========+========+============+===+
                   | ADI WG                        |                  (15)
                   +===============================+
                   | MMC WG                        |                  (10)
                   +===============================+---+
                   | T11 Ad hocs                       |              (15)
                   +---------------+---------------+---+
                   | Plugfest Adm *| STA Marcom *  |                  (20)
                   +---------------+---------------+

Wednesday 9/10     9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9
                   +==========================================+
                   | SCSI Commands, Arch.,                    +===============================+==========+
                   | MMC WG                        |                  (10)
                   +=======================+=======+---------------+
                                           |SFF: SSWG / 8425       |  (20)
                 +-----------------+-------+-------+---------------+
                 | STA Plenary *   / Plugfest TCC *|                  (20)
                 +-+---------------+---------------+
                   | T11.5 FAIS WG                 |                  (20)
                   +-------------------------------+

Thursday 9/11  8   9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
                   +=================+
                   | T10 Plenary     |                                (45)
                   +=================+

Friday 9/12    8   9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
                   No meetings are planned for Friday.

Meetings marked with == are T10-authorized meetings.
Meetings marked with -- are other groups and may change without notice.
Meetings marked with (*) are STA closed meetings.

 Other T10-authorized meetings:
Meeting         Date                Location / Contact
--------------  ------------------  --------------------------------------
Data Integrity  Aug 19 1:00 - 6:00  Denver, CO / Lohmeyer
SG              Aug 20 9:00 - 5:00
ADI Calls       Bi-weekly           To be announced via T10 reflector
SAS Prot Calls                      To be announced via T10 reflector
SAS PHY Calls                       To be announced via T10 reflector


 Map Abbreviation Key:
ADI:         Automation Drive Interface (tape library interface)
Amnd:        Amendment
CAP:         Commands, Architecture, and Protocols
Fast-80:     Data Transfer at 80 Mega-transfers/sec. (a.k.a., Ultra3,Ultra160)
Fast-160:    Data Transfer at 160 Mega-transfers/sec. (a.k.a., Ultra320)
FC:          Fibre Channel
I/F:         Interface
IETF:        Internet Engineering Task Force (the group that sets
             Internet standards)
iFC:         Internet Fibre Channel
IPS:         Internet Protocol SCSI
iSCSI:       Internet SCSI
LB:          Letter Ballot
MMC:         Multimedia Commands (CD-ROM, DVD, etc.)
OSD:         Object-based Storage Device
Par.:        Parallel (e.g., SPI-n)
PH or PHY:   Physical (Connectors, Cables, Transceivers, etc.)
PIP:         (SCSI) Passive Interconnect Performance
Plenary:     Full Committee Meeting
Res:         Resolution
SAS:         Serial Attached SCSI
SBC-2:       SCSI Block Commands - 2
SBP-3:       Serial Bus Protocol - 3
SCSI:        Small Computer System Interface
SES:         SCSI Enclosure Services
SFF:         SFF Industry Group (not an INCITS activity)
SG:          Study Group
SMC-2:       SCSI Medium Changer - 2 Commands
SPC-3:       SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (3rd generation)
SPI-4:       Fourth Generation SCSI Parallel Interface
SPI-5:       Fifth Generation SCSI Parallel Interface
SRP:         SCSI RDMA Protocol (was SVP)
SRP-2:       SCSI RDMA Protocol (2nd generation)
SSC-2:       SCSI Stream Commands - 2 (includes Tape)
SSM-2:       SCSI Signal Modeling (2nd generation)
SSWGs:       Specific-Subject Working Groups
STA:         SCSI Trade Association (Closed meeting -- not an INCITS activity)
STA Marcom:  STA Marketing Communications (Closed meeting -- not an INCITS
activity)
STA Tech:    STA Technical Meeting (T10 members invited)
STP:         Serial ATA Tunneled Protocol
T10:         Lower Level Interfaces Technical Committee
T11:         Device Level Interfaces Technical Committee
WG:          Working Group (same as Ad Hoc Group)


For more information about T10 activities, please contact the following
people:

Activity                     Contact         Telephone/Email
---------------------------- --------------- ------------------------------
ADT                          Paul Entzel     (720) 406-5782
                                             paul.entzel at quantum.com
ADC                          Rod Wideman     (720) 249-5796
                                             rod.wideman at adic.com
SBC-2, SES-2, SAS, SAS-1.1   Rob Elliott     (281) 518-5037
                                             Elliott at hp.com
MMC-4                        Bill McFerrin   (303) 651-5400
                                             bmcferrin at aol.com
SBP-3                        Peter Johansson (510) 527-3926
                                          PJohansson at ACM.org
MSC                          George Penokie  (507) 253-5208
                                             gpenokie at tivoli.com
SMC-2                        Erich Oetting   (303) 673-2178
                                             Erich_Oetting at Stortek.com
SPC-3, SAM-2, SAM-3, OSD     Ralph Weber     (214) 912-1373
                                             roweber at acm.org
SSC-2, SSC-3, FCP-2, FCP-3   Dave Peterson   (612) 802-3299
                                             dap at sbs.com
SRP-2                        Cris Simpson    (503) 712-4333
                                             cris.simpson at intel.com
Other Activities             John Lohmeyer   (719) 533-7560
                                             lohmeyer at t10.org

The long-term T10 meeting week schedule is:

Date                Location                   Host/Comments
------------------  -------------------------  -----------------------------
Sep 8-12, 2003      Seattle, WA                Microsoft
Nov 3-7, 2003       Austin, TX                 Crossroads
Jan 12-16, 2004     Chandler, AZ               Intel
Mar 8-12, 2004      Dana Point, CA             QLogic
May 3-7, 2004       Toronto, Montreal, or Ottawa Brocade
Jul 12-16, 2004     Colorado Springs, CO       LSI Logic
Sep 13-17, 2004     Nashua, NH                 Hitachi Cable
Nov 8-12, 2004      Austin, TX                 Crossroads
Approved 2005 dates:
Jan 17-21, 2005
Mar 7-11, 2005
May 2-6, 2005
Jul 11-15, 2005
Sep 12-16, 2005
Nov 7-11, 2005


14.1     Authorization of Working Group Meetings

John noted that the working group meetings are required to operate under the
same voting procedures as does T10 (that is, one vote per organization) and
the results of a working group are not binding on the parent committee. Ad hoc
groups should strive to achieve consensus prior to bringing issues to T10.

Erich Oetting moved that T10 authorize the T10-related meetings and events in
the list above that had not previously been approved through the end of
October 2003. Mark Evans seconded the motion. In the absence of any
objections, the motion passed unanimously.


15.    Adjournment

John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the meeting be adjourned. In
the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously. The meeting was
adjourned at 11:00 a.m. on Thursday July 10, 2003.

Enclosure(1) -- Meeting Attendees

         Name          S        Organization         Electronic Mail Address
---------------------- -- ------------------------- -------------------------
Mr. Walter Rassbach    V                            rassbach at nilenet.com
Mr. Ron Roberts        P  Adaptec, Inc.             rkroberts at aol.com
Ms. Pat Thaler         P  Agilent Technologies      pat_thaler at agilent.com
Mr. Michael Wingard    P  Amphenol Interconnect     mikwingard at aol.com
Dr. Claudio DeSanti    P  Andiamo Systems, Inc.     cds at andiamo.com
Mr. Robert Snively     P  Brocade Comm. Systems,    rsnively at brocade.com
                          Inc.
Mr. James A. Lott, Jr. P  Dallas Semiconductor      jim.lott at dalsemi.com
Mr. Kevin Marks        P  Dell Computer Corp.       kevin_marks at dell.com
Mr. Gary S. Robinson   P  EMC Corp.                 robinson_gary at emc.com
Mr. David Black        A  EMC Corp.                 black_david at emc.com
Mr. Robert H. Nixon    P  Emulex                    bob.nixon at emulex.com
Mr. Ralph O. Weber     P  ENDL Texas                roweber at acm.org
Mr. Douglas Wagner     P  FCI                       dwagner at fciconnect.com
Mr. Mike Fitzpatrick   P  Fujitsu                   mfitzpatrick at fcpa.
                                                    fujitsu.com
Mr. Rob Elliott        P  Hewlett Packard Co.       Elliott at hp.com
Dr. William Ham        A  Hewlett Packard Co.       bill_ham at ix.netcom.com
Mr. Dan Colegrove      P  Hitachi Global Storage    dcolegro at us.ibm.com
                          Tech.
Mr. Werner Glinka      AV Hitachi Global Storage    werner.glinka at attglobal.
                          Tech.                     net
Mr. Kinji Kashio       A  Honda Connectors          kkashio at hondaconnectors.
                                                    com
Mr. George O. Penokie  P  IBM / Tivoli Systems      gop at us.ibm.com
Mr. Cris Simpson       P  Intel Corp.               cris.simpson at intel.com
Mr. Hiromichi Oribe    P  Iomega Corp.              oribe at iomega.com
Mr. Dennis Moore       P  KnowledgeTek, Inc.        dmoore at ix.netcom.com
Mr. John Lohmeyer      P  LSI Logic Corp.           lohmeyer at t10.org
Mr. Mark Evans         P  Maxtor Corp.              mark_evans at maxtor.com
Mr. Martin Czekalski   V  Maxtor Corp.              marty_czekalski at maxtor.
                                                    com
Ms. Emily Hill         P  Microsoft Corp.           emhill at microsoft.com
Mr. Jay Neer           P  Molex Inc.                jneer at molex.com
Mr. Edward A. Gardner  AV Ophidian Designs          eag at ophidian.com
Dr. Terence J. Nelson  P  Panasonic Technologies,   terry at tjnelson.com
                          Inc
Mr. William P.         P  Philips Electronics/CD    bmcferrin at aol.com
McFerrin                  Edge
Mr. Craig W. Carlson   A# QLogic Corp.              craig.carlson at qlogic.com
Mr. Paul Entzel        P  Quantum Corp.             paul.entzel at quantum.com
Mr. Mark A. Green      AV Roxio, Inc.               mark_green at roxio.com
Mr. David Peterson     AV SBS Technologies          dap at sbs.com
Mr. Gerald Houlder     P  Seagate Technology        gerry.houlder at seagate.com
Mr. Alvin Cox          V  Seagate Technology        Alvin.Cox at seagate.com
Mr. Erich Oetting      P  Storage Technology Corp.  erich_oetting at stortek.com
Mr. Vit Novak          P  Sun Microsystems, Inc.    vit.novak at sun.com
Mr. Robert Kando       A. Texas Instruments         Robert_Kando at ti.com
Mr. Hiroshi Suzuki     P  Toshiba                   hiroshi.suzuki at tais.
                                                    toshiba.com
Mr. Kenneth Hirata     P  Vixel Corp.               Ken.Hirata at Vixel.com

42 People Present


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