about the SAS XL state machine

Shogo Hamasaku hamasaku at d1.hw.necst.nec.co.jp
Tue Dec 9 03:23:22 PST 2003


* From the T10 Reflector (t10 at t10.org), posted by:
* "Shogo Hamasaku" <hamasaku at d1.hw.necst.nec.co.jp>
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Dear Elliott and everyone,

   Thank you for your reply.

   I was thinking about a motion of XL state machine with another 
situation. I attached a pdf file that explains my situation. What do you
think of a situation when the ECM receives the Request Path after, or 
same time, sending the Transmit Open?

1. An end device [A] sends the OPEN address frame to an expander phy [X].
2. The expander phy [X] receives Arb Won and sends the Transmit Open
   to an expander phy [Y].
3. An end device [B] sends the OPEN address frame to the expander
   phy [Y].
4. The expander phy [Y] happens following events at same time.
    4a. It receives the Transmit Open from the expander phy [X], and
    4b. It goes to XL1 state.

   In above sequence, the ECM and the expander phy [X] could not stop 
the Transmit Open for the expander phy [Y], and the expander phy [Y] 
could not stop going to XL1 state.

   And I thought an outgoing frame should be sent by expander phy [Y]
after comparing the outgoing frame and an inbound frame.

Thanks,
Shogo Hamasaku
 NEC System Technologies, Ltd.
 External:(+81)89-947-7901


> * From the T10 Reflector (t10 at t10.org), posted by:
> * "Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)" <elliott at hp.com>
> *
> The difference in XL0 and XL1 handling of Transmit OPEN (an outbound
> request) is that in XL0, the OPEN would go out before AIP and be subject
> to full arbitration comparison, while after reaching XL1, it would go
> out after AIP and automatically win.
> 
> If XL0 sees both an outbound Transmit Open indication and an inbound
> OPEN Address frame, it remembers the inbound frame, but process the
> outbound request first.  It doesn't issue a Request Path for the inbound
> request at that time.  It goes to XL5:Forward_Open and then
> XL6:Open_Response_Wait, where the two requests are compared.  If the
> inbound request is the winner, it backs off the outbound request and
> finally goes to XL1:Request_Path.
> 
> Once XL0 commits to XL1, it sends an AIP and sends the Request Path
> request to the ECM.  There is no Abort for a Request Path, so we cannot
> let XL1 jump to a state the transmits the OPEN the same as if it had
> happened in XL0.
> 
> I think the resolution is: It is up to the ECM not to send a Transmit
> Open to a phy after receiving a Request Path from that phy, without
> first sending an Arb Lost.  This rule needs to be stated somewhere
> (probably 7.12.4.1).
> 
> 
> > * From the T10 Reflector (t10 at t10.org), posted by:
> > * "Shogo Hamasaku" <hamasaku at d1.hw.necst.nec.co.jp>
> > *
> > Gil, thank you for your consideration.
> > I agree with you in the case of your explanation.
> > 
> > So, what do you think in the case of that in my previous e-mail?
> > That means Phy#A state machine changed to XL1 just before 
> > (or simultaneously) to receive Transmit Open request from Phy#B 
> > via ECR.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Shogo Hamasaku
> > 
> > 
> > * From the T10 Reflector (t10 at t10.org), posted by:
> > * Gil Romo <gil.romo at qlogic.com>
> > *
> > > If phy#A receives a Transmit Open indication before 
> > receiving an Arbitrating 
> > > (Normal) confirmation, perhaps it should transition to XL5. 
> >  The transition 
> > > would have been XL0 to XL5 if the OPEN address frame had 
> > not yet been received. 
> > > The passing requests are handled by the XL6 state.
> > > 
> > > > * From the T10 Reflector (t10 at t10.org), posted by:
> > > > * "Shogo Hamasaku" <hamasaku at d1.hw.necst.nec.co.jp>
> > > > *
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > 
> > > > I have a question about the SAS XL state machine.
> > > > 
> > > > What do I do with the XL state machine of Phy#A after Step:3?
> > > > I could not find a description about this situation in 
> > SAS-1.1 rev.1. 
> > > > I think that the XL state of Phy#A depends on the 
> > priority of both requests.
> > > > 
> > > > Step:1  Phy#A is XL0:Idle
> > > > 
> > > > Step:2  Phy#A receives an OPEN Address Frame.
> > > >         Then, XL state machine of Phy#A changes from XL0 
> > to XL1:Request_Path.
> > > > 
> > > > Step:3  Phy#A requests a Request Path to the ECM. 
> > > >         At the same time, Phy#A recives a Transmit Open 
> > request from Phy#B 
> > > >         via the ECR, because The ECM has determined to 
> > make a connection 
> > > >         between Phy#B and Phy#A.
> > > > 
> > > > So, I thought that a new state (XL11) could be add to the 
> > XL sate machine.
> > > > 
> > > > Transition XL1:Idle to XL11  
> > > >   - A Transmit Open request is received.
> > > > 
> > > > State description about XL11
> > > >   - This state shall compare a Request Path request arguments and 
> > > >     a Transmit Open request arguments according to the 
> > arbitration fairness 
> > > >     comparison. 
> > > >   - If a Request Path request is a higher priority, this 
> > state shall send a 
> > > Backoff
> > > >      Retry or a Backoff Reverse Path response to a 
> > opposite Phy via the ECR.
> > > >   - If a Transmit Open request is a higher priority,  
> > this state shall change 
> > > to 
> > > >      XL5:Forward_Open.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Shogo Hamasaku
> > > > NEC System Technologies, Ltd.
> > > >   External:(+81)89-947-7901
> > > > *
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> > > 
> > > ------------
> > > Gilbert Romo
> > > Circuits & Integration
> > > QLogic Corporation, Aliso Viejo, California
> > > Office: 949-389-6266
> > > E-mail: gil.romo at qlogic.com
> --
> Rob Elliott, elliott at hp.com
> Hewlett-Packard Industry Standard Server Storage Advanced Technology
> https://ecardfile.com/id/RobElliott
> 
> 
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