Draft minutes of T10 Plenary Meeting #52 -- Nov 7, 2002

John Lohmeyer lohmeyer at t10.org
Fri Nov 8 09:33:54 PST 2002


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Accredited Standards Committee*
InterNational Committee for Information Technology Standards (INCITS)

                                                   Doc. No.: T10/02-458r0
                                                       Date: November 7, 2002
                                                   Reply to: John Lohmeyer

To:       T10 Membership
From:     Ralph Weber / John Lohmeyer
Subject:  Minutes of T10 Plenary Meeting #52 -- November 7, 2002
          Huntington Beach, CA
Agenda

1.     Opening Remarks
2.     Approval of Agenda
3.     Attendance and Membership
4.     Approval of Minutes - September 2002 Meeting - Minneapolis, MN
(T10/02-344r0)
5.     Document Distribution
6.     Call for Patents
7.     Review of Old Action Items
8.     Project Status Reports
8.1      Project Status Summary and INCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]
8.2      SCSI Fibre Channel Protocol - 2 (FCP-2) {Project 1144-D} [Peterson]
8.3      SCSI Architecture Model - 2 (SAM-2) {Project 1157-D} [Weber]
8.4      Object-based Storage Devices Commands (OSD) {Project 1355-D} [Weber]
8.5      MultiMedia Command Set - 3 (MMC-3) {Project 1363-D} [McFerrin]
8.6      SCSI Parallel Interface - 4 (SPI-4) {Project 1365-D} [Penokie]
8.7      SCSI Medium Changer Commands - 2 (SMC-2) {Project 1383-D} [Oetting]
8.8      SCSI RDMA Protocol (SRP) {Project 1415-D} [Simpson]
8.9      SCSI Primary Commands - 3 (SPC-3) {Project 1416-D} [Weber]
8.10     SCSI Block Commands - 2 (SBC-2) {Project 1417-D} [Elliott]
8.11     SCSI Stream Commands - 2 (SSC-2) {Project 1434-D} [Peterson]
8.12     SCSI Passive Interconnect Performance (PIP) {Project 1439-D}
[Daggett]
8.13     SCSI Serial Bus Protocol -3 (SBP-3) {Project 1467-D} [Johansson]
8.14     SCSI Signal Modeling - 2 (SSM-2) {Project 1514-D} [Aloisi/Manildi]
8.15     SCSI RDMA Protocol - 2 (SRP-2) {Project 1524-D} [Simpson]
8.16     SCSI Parallel Interface - 5 (SPI-5) {Project 1525-D} [Penokie]
8.17     SCSI Management Server Commands (MSC) {Project 1528-D}
[Penokie/Elliott]
8.18     MultiMedia Command Set - 4 (MMC-4) {Project 1545-D} [McFerrin]
8.19     Automation/Drive Interface - Physical Layer (ADP) {Project 1556-D}
[Suhler/Griswold]
8.20     Automation/Drive Interface - Transport Protocol (ADT) {Project
1557-D} [Suhler/Griswold]
8.21     Automation/Drive Interface - Commands (ADC) {Project 1558-D}
[Suhler/Griswold]
8.22     SCSI Enclosure Services - 2 (SES-2) {Project 1559-D} [Elliott]
8.23     Fibre Channel Protocol - 3 (FCP-3) {Project 1560-D} [Peterson]
8.24     SCSI Architecture Model - 3 (SAM-3) {Project 1561-D} [Weber]
8.25     Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) {Project 1562-D} [Elliott]
9.     Old Business
9.1      Style Guide [Moore]
9.2      A/V Direct-Access Project Proposal (01-337r0) [Johansson]
9.3      Negative votes and comments on ITLB 4490 approving INCITS 350 (FCP-2)
(02-262r1) [Donovan]
9.4      Allowing TEST UNIT READY through Persistent Reservation (02-304r1)
[Penokie]
10.    New Business
10.1     Project proposal for Serial Attached SCSI - 2 (SAS-2) (02-429r1)
[Elliott]
10.2     Actions on Parallel SCSI Working Group Recommendations
10.3     Actions on SAS Working Group Recommendations
10.3.1     SAS PHY recommendations
10.3.2     SAS Protocol recommendations
10.4     Actions on CAP Working Group Recommendations
10.5     Actions on Other Working Group Recommendations
11.    ISO/IEC
11.1     ISO/IEC Report (02-453r1) [Robinson]
11.2     ISO/IEC Business [Robinson]
11.2.1     SPI-4 FCD Contribution
11.2.2     SPC-2 FCD Contribution
11.2.3     SPI-5 New Work Item Proposal to JTC1/SC25 (02-469r0) [Robinson]
11.2.4     SAS New Work Item Proposal to JTC1/SC25 (02-484r0) [Robinson]
12.    Liaison Reports
12.1     T11 Liaison Report (02-463r0) [Forbes]
12.2     T13 Liaison Report [Colegrove]
12.3     SFF Industry Group [Allan]
12.4     IEEE 1394 [Johansson]
12.5     SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Jones/Aloisi]
12.6     IETF SCSI over IP [Black/Robinson]
12.7     SNIA [Cummings]
13.    Review of Action Items
14.    Meeting Schedule
14.1       Authorization of Working Group Meetings
15.    Adjournment

Results of Meeting


1.     Opening Remarks

John Lohmeyer, the T10 Chair, called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m.,
Thursday November 7, 2002. He thanked Skip Jones of QLogic for hosting the
meeting.

John said that INCITS subgroup membership forms and the T10 document
subscription forms are available on the meeting disk. He said that people
should use these forms to ensure the INCITS Secretariat has the latest
membership information. These forms should be mailed directly to the INCITS
Secretariat.

As is customary, the people attending introduced themselves and a copy of the
attendance list was circulated. Copies of the draft agenda and general
information on T10 were made available to those attending.

John Lohmeyer reported that George Penokie has won a Gene Milligan Effective
Committee Management Award from INCITS and Ralph Weber has won a Technical
Excellence Award from INCITS. Ralph Weber reported that John Lohmeyer has won
a Gene Milligan Effective Committee Management Award from INCITS. The
committee congratulated John, George, and Ralph.


2.     Approval of Agenda

The following additions/changes were made to the draft agenda:

11.2.3     SAS New Work Item Proposal to JTC1/SC25 (02-484r0) [Robinson]
10.4.1     SAM-3: LUN value meaning unspecified LU (02-321r0) [Nixon] {removed}

John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the agenda be approved. In
the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously.

The following items were added/revised during the course of the meeting

11.2.2     SPC-2 FCD Contribution


3.     Attendance and Membership

The membership requirements were reviewed. INCITS rules permit one vote per
organization. An individual from a new organization must attend at least one
T10 plenary meeting as an Advisory Member. He/she may apply for voting
membership at this meeting, which becomes effective following adjournment of
the meeting. Voting privileges begin upon receipt by the INCITS Secretariat of
applicable fees for the membership year.

To maintain membership, organizations must pay the INCITS Service Fee ($800).

John briefly discussed the mailing fees. Complete pricing information is
contained in the 2003 membership form (available at
ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/mem_form.txt).

There are also minimum attendance requirements to maintain voting membership
on T10. If a member organization fails to attend two of the last three T10
meetings, they are warned that failing to attend the next T10 meeting would
result in their membership being terminated.

The Chair said he had sent letters to 9 people from 6 organizations informing
them that their membership was in jeopardy due to non-attendance (see
02-375r0) and that their membership would be terminated if they did not attend
this meeting. The following organizations were in attendance jeopardy:

Congruent Software, Inc.
EMC Corp.
Emulex
Exabyte Corp.
Honda Connectors
Iomega Corp.

All organizations in attendance jeopardy were present except:

Exabyte Corp.
Iomega Corp.

The members from the organizations that failed to attend will have their
membership changed to non-voting status.

No organizations joined the committee at this meeting.

The T10 membership during the meeting was 44 organizations down from 46
following the last meeting. Enclosure (1) is the list of the people present at
the meeting and enclosure (2) is the current T10 membership list.

No organizations requested membership in T10 to take effect after the meeting.

John Lohmeyer reminded members that failure to vote on two out of the last
three letter ballots also would result in membership jeopardy and then
reported on the status of companies that have not voted on recent letter
ballots (02-426r0). Adaptec, Honda, and Storage Technology were in letter
ballot jeopardy following the 02-381r0 letter ballot. If any of these
organizations do not vote on the 02-421r0 letter ballot, their membership will
be changed to advisory.

4.     Approval of Minutes - September 2002 Meeting - Minneapolis, MN
(T10/02-344r0)

John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the minutes be approved. In
the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously.


5.     Document Distribution

Members who have any problems with their mailing subscription should deal
directly with Parthenia Purnell (ppurnell at itic.org) (202) 626-5741. A
subscription form is included on the meeting disk.

John Lohmeyer requested that all documents for the next mailing be in his
hands in electronic format by 10:30 a.m. on Thursday November 14, 2002.
Documents received after this time may go into a subsequent mailing.

John reminded the committee of the requirements for document submission. Since
T10 meets its document retention requirements by preparing mailings, documents
included in the mailing must be suitable for archiving. This means that
native-format and/or Portable Document Format (PDF) electronic originals with
proper identification must be submitted.

People can obtain T10 document numbers and revised T10 document numbers by
filling out a web form at http://www.t10.org/members/. The assigned T10
document number will be sent to the requestor by e-mail. The requestor may
then reply to this email, including the document to be posted as an
attachment. The document will be automatically posted on the T10 web site.

T10 members can complete this entire process using their personal T10
password. John explained that members who do not know their password should
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password sent to them via e-mail.

John noted that non-members can also use the above document number process,
but their requests will require approval by an administrator.

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6.     Call for Patents

This is a regular agenda item to identify any potential patent issues with
developing standards and technical reports.

A document is available from ANSI, "Procedures for the Development and
Coordination of American National Standards", at no charge. This document is
also on the WWW at http://www.incits.org/help/ansi_sdo.html. Section 1.2.11
contains the ANSI patent policy. Amy Marasco manages patent issues for ANSI
and can be contacted at amarasco at ansi.org or 212-642-4954. Gene Milligan
prepared a useful "Handy dandy Technical Committee's Patents Guide", which is
available at ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/document.99/99-291r0.pdf.

John Lohmeyer presented a foil containing a summary of the ANSI patent policy
prepared by Gary Robinson. The summary is also included on the Rules and
Procedures (plus Patent Information) page on the T10 web site.

Cris Simpson reminded the committee that a statement of the Intel patent
policy can be found in T10/01-041r0.

John asked that anyone who knows of other applicable patents to contact him.

There were no responses to the call for patents.


7.     Review of Old Action Items

482    John Lohmeyer will ask INCITS to post a list of withdrawn standards on
the INCITS web site including information on how to obtain them. (Complete)
483    Ralph Weber will prepare SAM-2 revision 24, from revision 23v by
changing 'working draft' to 'dpANS' and removing all change bars. (Complete)
484    John Lohmeyer will forward SAM-2 revision 24 to INCITS for processing
towards first public review. (Complete)
485    John Lohmeyer will conduct a letter ballot on PIP revision 3.
(Complete)
486    George Penokie will prepare SPI-5 revision 3. (Complete)
487    John Lohmeyer will conduct a letter ballot on SPI-5 revision 3.
(Complete)
488    Gary Robinson will report to JTC 1 that T10 has reviewed the new work
item proposal, and recommends that the US National Member vote to approve the
new work item proposal JTC 1 N 6801, Fibre Channel Protocol for SCSI, Second
Version (FCP-2), project 1.25.13.11.18 and that all six questions be answered
yes and Gary Robinson be named as the editor. (Complete)
489    Gary Robinson will report to JTC 1 that T10 has reviewed the new work
item proposal, and recommends that the US National Member vote to approve the
new work item proposal JTC 1 N 6802, SCSI Parallel Interface-4 (SPI-4),
project 1.25.13.11.28 and that all six questions be answered yes and Gary
Robinson be named as the editor. (Complete)


8.     Project Status Reports

8.1    Project Status Summary and INCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]

John Lohmeyer said that the current T10 project status summary was included on
the meeting disk and will be included in the mailing as usual.

There is a link to the INCITS antitrust guidelines on the T10 web site at
http://www.t10.org/t10_info.htm.

Terry Nelson reported that INCITS is working to merge with JTC 1 TAG. John
Lohmeyer stated that he had been informed that T10 should see no effects from
the merger.

8.2    SCSI Fibre Channel Protocol - 2 (FCP-2) {Project 1144-D} [Peterson]

John Lohmeyer reviewed the history of the FCP-2 balloting at INCITS and
reported that the CAP working group has recommended specific resolutions to
the INCITS negatives to be voted on under item 9.3.

8.3    SCSI Architecture Model - 2 (SAM-2) {Project 1157-D} [Weber]

Ralph Weber reported that SAM-2 is in Public Review and that the public review
will close on November 18th. He noted that the ANSI editor has completed
review of the document and has no changes to request.

8.4    Object-based Storage Devices Commands (OSD) {Project 1355-D} [Weber]

Ralph Weber reported that OSD revision 6 is available on the T10 web site. The
SNIA OSD working group is reviewing their security models and preparing
changes for revision 7.

Ralph stated that the target for a letter ballot on OSD is May 2003.

8.5    MultiMedia Command Set - 3 (MMC-3) {Project 1363-D} [McFerrin]

John Lohmeyer reported that MMC-3 is approved and published as ANSI
NCITS.360:2002.

Bill McFerrin reported that the MMC-3 working group is considering how best to
address substantive errors in MMC-3.

8.6    SCSI Parallel Interface - 4 (SPI-4) {Project 1365-D} [Penokie]

John Lohmeyer reported that SPI-4 has been approved by INCITS. It will now be
sent to ANSI for BSR approval and publication. Publication should occur yet
this year as ANSI INCITS 362:2002.

8.7    SCSI Medium Changer Commands - 2 (SMC-2) {Project 1383-D} [Oetting]

In the absence of Erich Oetting no report was available.

8.8    SCSI RDMA Protocol (SRP) {Project 1415-D} [Simpson]

Cris Simpson reported that the INCITS letter ballot on SRP closes on November
17, meaning that it should be published soon.

8.9    SCSI Primary Commands - 3 (SPC-3) {Project 1416-D} [Weber]

Ralph Weber reported that SPC-3 revision 10 incorporating all changes approved
by this meeting will be available in time for the next mailing.

Ralph Weber reminded the committee that the target letter ballot date for
SPC-3 is November 2003. He noted that, based on this letter ballot date,
editing review meetings will begin in January 2003 where the following topics
will be discussed:

REQUEST SENSE command
REPORT SUPPORTED OPERATIONS command
READ/WRITE ATTRIBUTE commands (MAM)

Additional editorial review meetings held during subsequent meeting weeks will
cover the following topics:

Asymmetric logical unit behavior
Well known logical units
Access Controls
Protocol specific data
Persistent Reservations Model
Persistent Reservations Commands
Control mode page

8.10   SCSI Block Commands - 2 (SBC-2) {Project 1417-D} [Elliott]

Rob Elliott reported that revision 8 was posted last week. There is one
proposal that has not been approved yet, so revision 8 will be current until
January.

8.11   SCSI Stream Commands - 2 (SSC-2) {Project 1434-D} [Peterson]

Dave Peterson reported on the SSC-2 letter ballot resolution. Outstanding
issues are:

- Text specifying tagged command queuing behavior
- Out-of-order processing and behavior
- Medium partition mode page cleanup
- Logical file/set address text
- Residual reporting

The resolution document is 02-081r6.

Dave stated that a new project proposal for SSC-3 is anticipated for approval
at the January meeting.

8.12   SCSI Passive Interconnect Performance (PIP) {Project 1439-D} [Daggett]

John Lohmeyer reported that the letter ballot on PIP closed on October 17 and
the results are available in 02-377r0. He stated that letter ballot resolution
is in progress.

8.13   SCSI Serial Bus Protocol -3 (SBP-3) {Project 1467-D} [Johansson]

Peter Johansson reported that the SBP-3 working group met November 5 - 6 in
Huntington Beach, CA. Work continues in one remaining area: isochronous
facilities. See the working group minutes (02-480) for additional detail.

8.14   SCSI Signal Modeling - 2 (SSM-2) {Project 1514-D} [Aloisi/Manildi]

John Lohmeyer reported on the activities of the SSM-2 working group based on
an electronic report (02-474r0), provided by Paul Aloisi.

8.15   SCSI RDMA Protocol - 2 (SRP-2) {Project 1524-D} [Simpson]

Cris Simpson reported that SRP-2 proposals will be discussed during the CAP
meeting in January.

8.16   SCSI Parallel Interface - 5 (SPI-5) {Project 1525-D} [Penokie]

George Penokie reported that SPI-5 completed letter ballot with 110 comments
(report in 02-382r0). He reported on the activities of the SPI-5 working group
(minutes in 02-455r0).

8.17   SCSI Management Server Commands (MSC) {Project 1528-D}
[Penokie/Elliott]

George Penokie reported that MSC work will be restarting around March.

8.18   MultiMedia Command Set - 4 (MMC-4) {Project 1545-D} [McFerrin]

Bill McFerrin reported on the activities of the MMC-4 working group (minutes
in 02-486r0).

8.19   Automation/Drive Interface - Physical Layer (ADP) {Project 1556-D}
[Suhler/Griswold]

Bob Griswold reported on the activities of the ADI working group (minutes in
02-411).

He stated that Paul Entzel will become the editor for ADP and ADT and Rod
Wideman will edit ADC. The completion dates for all the ADI projects has been
moved to November 2003.

He noted that plans are being made to move ADP content into ADT with
appropriate motions to be considered at the January meeting.

Paul Entzel stated that weekly teleconference calls will begin soon.

8.20   Automation/Drive Interface - Transport Protocol (ADT) {Project 1557-D}
[Suhler/Griswold]

This topic was covered in item 8.19.

8.21   Automation/Drive Interface - Commands (ADC) {Project 1558-D}
[Suhler/Griswold]

This topic was covered in item 8.19.

8.22   SCSI Enclosure Services - 2 (SES-2) {Project 1559-D} [Elliott]

Rob Elliott reported that revision 2 was posted last week. A few minor
proposals are pending right now and several more new feature proposals
anticipated. No new revision is planned prior to the next meeting.

8.23   Fibre Channel Protocol - 3 (FCP-3) {Project 1560-D} [Peterson]

Dave Peterson reported that activity on FCP-3 will commence after work on
FCP-2 is concluded.

8.24   SCSI Architecture Model - 3 (SAM-3) {Project 1561-D} [Weber]

Ralph Weber reported that SAM-3 revision 4 containing all the changes approved
this week will be available in time for the mailing.

Ralph stated that the target for a letter ballot on SAM-3 is May 2004.

8.25   Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) {Project 1562-D} [Elliott]

Rob Elliott reported on the activities of the SAS working group (minutes in
02-456r0). All the expected technical proposals have been approved. There will
be an editing session later this week. A request for a letter ballot is
expected prior to Thanksgiving.


9.     Old Business

9.1    Style Guide [Moore]

Dennis Moore reported that a final version will be available for consideration
at the January meeting.

9.2    A/V Direct-Access Project Proposal (01-337r0) [Johansson]

Peter Johansson requested that this item be removed from future agendas.

9.3    Negative votes and comments on ITLB 4490 approving INCITS 350 (FCP-2)
(02-262r1) [Donovan]

John Lohmeyer reminded the committee that the history of the FCP-2 issues was
reviewed in item 8.2.

Based on the unanimous recommendation of the CAP working group, Dave Peterson
moved that 02-440r0 be approved as resolving the INCITS negative comments,
02-267r2 be approved as describing additional necessary FCP-2 changes, that
the changes being made in FCP-2 be affirmed as substantive, and that FCP-2 r08
be returned to INCITS as containing the resolution for the INCITS negative
comments for a second public review. George Penokie seconded the motion.

The motion passed on a roll call vote of 32:0:0:12=44. Details of the roll
call vote were as follows:

Organization                 Stat Name                    Yes No Abs NP
Adaptec, Inc.                P    Mr. Ron Roberts           1
Amphenol Interconnect                                                 1
Andiamo Systems, Inc.        P    Dr. Claudio DeSanti       1
BREA Technologies, Inc.      P    Mr. Bill Galloway         1
Brocade Comm. Systems, Inc.  P    Mr. Brian Forbes          1
Cisco Systems, Inc.          P    Mr. David Peterson        1
Congruent Software, Inc.     P    Mr. Peter Johansson       1
Crossroads Systems, Inc.     P    Mr. Robert Griswold       1
Dallas Semiconductor         A    Mr. Titkwan Hui           1
Dell Computer Corp.                                                   1
EMC Corp.                    A    Mr. David Black           1
Emulex                       P    Mr. Robert H. Nixon       1
ENDL Texas                   P    Mr. Ralph O. Weber        1
FCI                          P    Mr. Douglas Wagner        1
Fujitsu                      P    Mr. Mike Fitzpatrick      1
General Dynamics                                                      1
Hewlett Packard Co.          P    Mr. Rob Elliott           1
Hitachi Cable Manchester                                              1
Honda Connectors             P    Mr. Terry Enright         1
IBM / Tivoli Systems         P    Mr. George O. Penokie     1
Intel Corp.                  P    Mr. Cris Simpson          1
KnowledgeTek, Inc.                                                    1
LSI Logic Corp.              P    Mr. John Lohmeyer         1
Maxtor Corp.                 P    Mr. Mark Evans            1
Microsoft Corp.              P    Ms. Emily Hill            1
Molex Inc.                                                            1
Network Appliance Inc.       P    Mr. James R. (Bob) Davis  1
Nishan Systems Inc.          P    Mr. Charles Monia         1
Ophidian Designs                                                      1
Panasonic Technologies, Inc  P    Dr. Terence J. Nelson     1
Philips Electronics/CD Edge  P    Mr. William P. McFerrin   1
Pirus Networks                                                        1
QLogic Corp.                                                          1
Quantum Corp.                P    Mr. Paul Entzel           1
Seagate Technology           P    Mr. Gerald Houlder        1
Storage Technology Corp.                                              1
Sun Microsystems, Inc.       P    Mr. Vit Novak             1
Texas Instruments            A    Mr. Steve Hemmah          1
Toshiba America Elec. Comp.  A    Mr. Tasuku Kasebayashi    1
Madison Cable Corp.                                                   1
UNISYS Corporation           P    Mr. Ron Mathews           1
Veritas Software             P    Mr. Roger Cummings        1
Vixel Corp.                  P    Mr. Kenneth Hirata        1
Western Digital Corporation                                           1

                                                           32   0  0 12 = 44

John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward FCP-2 revision 08 to INCITS as
resolving the INCITS negative comments containing substantive changes for
second public review. John Lohmeyer took an action time to work with INCITS to
thank those who submitted INCITS negative comments and to communicate the
actions taken by T10.

9.4    Allowing TEST UNIT READY through Persistent Reservation (02-304r1)
[Penokie]

This item was unanimously recommended for approval by the September CAP WG.
However, they recommended that T10 not address it until the November meeting.

George Penokie described the proposal in 02-304r1.

George Penokie moved that 02-3041 be approved for inclusion in SPC-3. Bill
Galloway seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 31:0:1:12=44.


10.    New Business

10.1   Project proposal for Serial Attached SCSI - 2 (SAS-2) (02-429r1)
[Elliott]

George Penokie described the need for a SAS-2 project. He noted that SAS-2 is
not intended to include an increase in speed, just to add enhancements and fix
any bugs found as SAS products are developed.

Rob Elliott moved that 02-429r1 (r0 as revised) be approved as a proposal for
a new project, SAS-2. Bill Galloway seconded the motion. The motion passed on
a vote of 30:0:2:12=44.

John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward 02-429r1 to INCITS as a new
project proposal for SAS-2.

10.2   Actions on Parallel SCSI Working Group Recommendations

George Penokie moved that 02-452r2 (r1 as revised) be approved as resolving
the SPI-5 letter ballot comments, that SPI-5 rev 5 be approved as
incorporating the letter ballot comments resolution, and that SPI-5 rev 5 be
forwarded to INCITS for further processing. Mark Evans seconded the motion.
The motion passed on a vote of 32:0:0:12=44.

Based on successful resolution of the SPI-5 letter ballot comments, Bill Ham
and John Lohmeyer asked that their No votes on the letter ballot be changed to
Yes. Jie Fan was not present at the meeting to change the AMP/Tyco No vote.

George Penokie took an action item to post SPI-5 rev5. John Lohmeyer took an
action item to forward SPI-5 rev 5 to INCITS for further processing towards
first public review.

10.3   Actions on SAS Working Group Recommendations

10.3.1 SAS PHY recommendations

George Penokie reviewed the following recommendations regarding specific
proposals from the SAS PHY Working Group:

o      SAS Output Characteristics of the Ready LED signal (02-353r1) [Cox]
o      SAS Definition/Note for Skew (02-354r1) [Cox]
o      SAS compliant jitter test pattern (02-390r3) [Cox] {unanimous}
o      SAS external connector text corrections and signal table modification
(02-391r1) [Cox] {unanimous}
o      SAS LED patterns (02-446r1) [Cox] {4:0:2}
o      SAS driver and receiver electrical characteristics additions (02-349r4)
[Brown] {r3 as revised, 7:0:4}
o      SAS OOB transmission levels (02-380r1) [Cox] {r0 as revised, 6:0:4}
o      SAS test loads (02-379r4) [Cox] {r3 as revised, unanimous}
o      SAS internal cable configuration (02-482r0) [Cox] {12:0:1}

Ron Roberts moved that 02-353r1, 02-354r1, 02-390r3, 02-391r1, 02-446r1,
02-349r4, 02-380r1, 02-379r4, and 02-482r0 be approved for inclusion in SAS.
Mark Evans seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 31:0:2:11=44.

George Penokie reported that the SAS PHY working group had agreed to:

o      accept the SMP REPORT PHY ERROR LOG section as in SAS rev 2a
{unanimous, report only}

George Penokie reviewed the following specific SAS changes recommended by the
SAS PHY Working Group:

o      that the use of "loss of signal" be dropped in the specification and
that no definition be provided
(from item 4 in the minutes of the October 14 teleconference, 02-410r0)
{unanimous}
o      that SAS be modified to combine Xr/Xt and Ir/It as Xr/Xt and to convert
Dr/Dt to Ir/It when naming internal connector interoperability points
(from item 3 in the minutes of the October 31 teleconference, 02-468r0)
{unanimous}

Mark Evans moved that the SAS editor be instructed to make the changes
described in item 4 in the minutes of the October 14 teleconference (02-410r0)
and item 3 in the minutes of the October 31 teleconference (02-468r0). Bill
Galloway seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 31:0:2:11=44.

10.3.2 SAS Protocol recommendations

George Penokie reviewed the following recommendations regarding specific
proposals from the SAS Protocol Working Group:

o      SAS Combined Request-Confirmation List (02-276r3) [Worden] {r2 as
revised, unanimous}
o      SAS Port Control State Diagram Update (02-202r4) [Worden] {r3 as
revised, unanimous}
o      SAS Data Transfer Rules (02-318r1) [Gardner] {unanimous}
o      Details of SAS Expander Configuration (02-359r3) [Fairchild] {r2 as
revised, 4:3:2}
o      SAS Port layer rewrite (02-393r1) [Elliott] {r0 as revised, unanimous}
o      SAS Programmable PPTOV (02-387r2) [Hoglund] {r1 as revised, unanimous}
o      SAS Change Notification Proposal (02-383r2) [Reif] {r1 as revised,
unanimous}
o      SAS SPC-3 Protocol Specific log page (02-394r1) [Elliott] {r0 as
revised, unanimous}
o      SAS Device Identification VPD page requirements (02-396r2) [Elliott]
{r1 as revised, unanimous}
o      Alternate SAS Speed Negotiation State Diagram (02-405r2) [Penokie] {r1
as revised, unanimous}
o      SAS Spinup (02-360r3) [Elliott] {r2 as revised, unanimous}
o      STP Initiators closing connections (02-363r3) [Day] {r2 as revised,
unanimous}
o      SAS Protocol Specific Port mode page (02-397r0) [Elliott] {5:3:0}
o      SAS Method to determine Source of Change Primitive (02-409r3) [Besmer]
{6:1:2}
o      SAS Additional Port Layer Tweaks (02-424r2) [Worden] {r1 as revised,
unanimous}
o      SAS Target and Initiator Names (02-427r1) Penokie] {r0 as revised,
unanimous}
o      SAS Link Rate Clarification (02-433r1) [Sheffield and Seto] {r0 as
revised, unanimous}
o      SAS SMP Report Phy SATA modifications (02-441r1) [Fairchild] {r0 as
revised, 7:0:2}
o      Proposal to change Bit Ordering and CRC diagrams in SAS rev. 2a
       (02-422r2) [Reif]
       {r1 as revised, unanimous}
o      Informative Annex on Expanders (02-291r2) [Hoglund] {unanimous}
o      SAS SATA_ERROR primitive definition (02-418r2) [Hoglund] {r1 as
revised, unanimous}
o      SAS Interpretation of invalid SAS address (02-444r0) [Elliott]
{unanimous}
o      SAS SSP vendor-specific frame types (02-450r0) [Elliott] {6:1:4}
o      SAS bit and byte ordering overview (02-451r1) [Elliott] {r0 as revised,
unanimous}
o      SAS wide port IDENTIFY error handling (02-445r0) [Elliott] {unanimous}
o      SAS SATA 1.0e Support (02-437r1) [Sheffield] {12:0:11}
o      SAS Handling Link Rate Not Supported (02-443r2) [Elliott] {r1 as
revised, unanimous}
o      SAS Simple Relative Offset (02-449r3) [Galloway] {r2 as revised, 9:3:5}
o      SAS: SSP Link layer state machine rewrite (02-470r1) [Penokie] {r0 as
revised, unanimous}
o      SAS Spare Primitives (02-461r1) [Galloway] {r0 as revised, 12:0:3}
o      SAS Zero Length Data Frames (02-462r1) [Galloway] {r0 as revised,
unanimous}
o      Processing Unknown Frame Types (02-459r1) [Coomes] {r0 as revised,
unanimous}
o      SAS: Make Report General Page Larger (02-476r0) [Besmer] {7:0:10}
o      Remove SMP PHY CONTROL Function ENABLE (02-477r1) [Fairchild] {r0 as
revised, 6:1:11}
o      SAS Simplified Support for Multiple STP Initiators (02-430r3)
[Sheffield] {r1 as revised twice; unanimous}
o      SAS STP Buffering (02-435r3) [Sheffield] {r1 as revised twice; 7:0:8}
o      SAS SSP Transport Layer State Machine Modification (02-478r0) [Evans]
{unanimous}
o      SAS Protocol-Specific mode page - make short format optional (02-472r1)
[Elliott] {r0 as revised, unanimous}

Bill Galloway moved that 02-276r3, 02-202r4, 02-318r1, 02-393r1, 02-387r2,
02-383r2, 02-394r1, 02-396r2, 02-405r2, 02-360r3, 02-363r3, 02-409r3,
02-424r2, 02-427r1, 02-433r1, 02-441r1, 02-422r2, 02-291r2, 02-418r2,
02-444r0, 02-451r1, 02-445r0, 02-437r1, 02-443r2, 02-470r1, 02-461r1,
02-462r1, 02-459r1, 02-476r0, 02-477r1, 02-430r3, 02-435r3, 02-472r1, and
02-478r0 be approved for inclusion in SAS. Mark Evans seconded the motion. The
motion passed on a vote of 31:0:3:10=44.

Bill Galloway moved that 02-359r3 be approved for inclusion in SAS. John
Lohmeyer seconded the motion. John Lohmeyer and George Penokie described the
issue with the proposal being the complexity it adds. The motion passed on a
vote of 14:0:17:13=44.

Bill Galloway moved that 02-397r0 be approved for inclusion in SAS. John
Lohmeyer seconded the motion. Bill Galloway described the problem as being
that drive guys do not like margin controls. The motion passed on a vote of
13:3:15:14=44.

Bill Galloway moved that 02-450r0 be approved for inclusion in SAS. John
Lohmeyer seconded the motion. George Penokie described the issue with the
proposal as being the vendor specific changes. The motion passed on a vote of
7:4:23:10=44.

Bill Galloway moved that 02-449r3 be approved for inclusion in SAS and SPC-3.
Mark Evans seconded the motion. George described the proposal as adding a
relative offset and John Lohmeyer reviewed the history of the proposal. The
motion passed on a vote of 18:2:11:13=44.

George Penokie reviewed the following specific SAS changes recommended by the
SAS Protocol Working Group:

o      that a statement be added saying 'STP initiators shall not generate
BIST frames'
(from item 5.4 in the minutes of the September 17 teleconference, 02-372r0)
o      that the SSP Task IU be changed to 28 bytes to match the command IU by
removing the last 4 reserved bytes
(from item 5.1 in the minutes of the September 24 teleconference, 02-385r0)
o      that DEVICE TYPE numbers be changed to start at 1 and DEVICE TYPE 0
means no device is attached
(from item 5.4 in the minutes of the October 15 teleconference, 02-408r0)
o      that the Fallback and Increment Speed states be removed from the SP
state machine
(from item 4.10 in the minutes of the October 22 teleconference, 02-417r0)
o      that the SAS SMP margin control function be removed from SAS
(from item 4.11 in the minutes of the October 24-25 meeting, 02-428r0) {9:1:2}
o      that in the REPORT PHY SATA function the editor be instructed to change
OPEN REJECT (RETRY) to OPEN REJECT (NO DESTINATION) and make other related
changes throughout SAS
(from item 4.1 in the minutes of the November 4-5 meeting, 02-456r0)

Bill Galloway moved that the SAS editor be instructed to make the changes
described in item 5.4 in the minutes of the September 17 teleconference
(02-372r0), item 5.1 in the minutes of the September 24 teleconference
(02-385r0), item 5.4 in the minutes of the October 15 teleconference
(02-408r0), item 4.10 in the minutes of the October 22 teleconference
(02-417r0), and item 4.1 in the minutes of the November 4-5 meeting
(02-456r0). Mark Evans seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of
21:0:9:14=44.

Bill Galloway moved that the SAS editor be instructed to make the changes
described in item 4.11 in the minutes of the October 24-25 meeting (02-428r0).
Mark Evans seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 13:1:12:18=44.

10.4   Actions on CAP Working Group Recommendations

George Penokie described the following proposals recommended for inclusion in
SAM-3:

o      SAM-3: LUN value meaning unspecified LU (02-321r0) [Nixon] {Sept. CAP,
unanimous}
o      Proposal for new arguments for Data-In Delivered and Data-Out Receive
(02-366r0) [Evans] {unanimous}
o      SAM-3 definitions for SCSI initiator device and SCSI target device
(02-466r0) [Evans] {unanimously}
o      SAS Target and Initiator Names (02-427r1) [Penokie] {13:0:1}

Bill Galloway moved that 02-321r0, 02-366r0, 02-466r0, and 02-427r1 be
approved for inclusion in SAM-3. Mark Evans seconded the motion. The motion
passed on a vote of 28:0:4:12=44.

George Penokie reported that the CAP working group has recommended that
asynchronous event reporting be removed from SAM-3.

Mark Evans moved that the editor be instructed to remove asynchronous event
reporting from the next revision of SAM-3. Bill Galloway seconded the motion.
The motion passed on a vote of 21:1:11:11=44.

George Penokie reported on the following proposals recommended for inclusion
in SPC-3:

o      SPC-3 Add NAA=2 format to VPD 83 (02-454r0) [Coomes] {unanimous}
o      WWNs for WLUNs (02-254r5) [Penokie] {r4 as revised, unanimously}
o      SAS SPC-3 Protocol Specific log page (02-394r3) [Elliott] {r2 as
revised, unanimous}
o      Media Serial Number (02-485r1) [Hill] {r0 as revised, unanimous}

Ralph Weber noted that the editor has been instructed to ensure that all
unused NAA code values are marked reserved during the incorporation of
02-454r0 and that this is considered an editorial change.

Emily Hill moved that 02-454r0, 02-254r5, 02-394r3, and 02-485r1 be approved
for inclusion in SPC-3. Charles Monia seconded the motion. The motion passed
on a vote of 27:0:4:13=44.

10.5   Actions on Other Working Group Recommendations

No recommendations from other working groups were brought before the
committee.


11.    ISO/IEC

11.1   ISO/IEC Report (02-453r1) [Robinson]

Gary Robinson was unable to attend, but he provided an electronic report in
02-453r1.

11.2   ISO/IEC Business [Robinson]

John Lohmeyer reported that the letter ballot (T10/02-370r0) on recommending a
yes vote on the six questions regarding an NWIP on SPC-2 passed 38:1:1:6=46 as
documented in 02-371r0.

11.2.1 SPI-4 FCD Contribution

John Lohmeyer moved and George Penokie seconded that T10 approve contributing
SCSI SPI-4 Rev 10 modified to comply with the ISO style to SC25 as an FCD for
further processing under project number 1.25.13.11.28. The motion passed
30:0:1:13=44.

George Penokie took an action item to prepare SPI-4 in the ISO style. Gary
Robinson took an action item to contribute SPI-4 Rev 10 to SC25.

11.2.2 SPC-2 FCD Contribution

David Black moved and Roger Cummings seconded that T10 approves contributing
SPC-2 i22 to SC25 as an FCD for further processing under project number
1.25.13.11.27. The motion passed 31:0:1:12=44.

Gary Robinson was given an action item to contribute SPC-2 i22 to SC25.

11.2.3 SPI-5 New Work Item Proposal to JTC1/SC25 (02-469r0) [Robinson]

John Lohmeyer moved and George Penokie seconded that T10 recommend that the US
approve and forward the NWIP (T10/02-469r0) for SCSI Parallel Interface 5,
SPI-5, to JTC1/SC25 for further processing as an international standard
project. The proposed Project Editor is Gary S. Robinson.

The motion passed on a roll call vote 32:0:0:12=44. The details of the roll
call were:

Organization                Stat Name                     Yes No Abs NP
Adaptec, Inc.               P    Mr. Ron Roberts            1
Amphenol Interconnect                                                 1
Andiamo Systems, Inc.       P    Dr. Claudio DeSanti        1
BREA Technologies, Inc.                                               1
Brocade Comm. Systems, Inc. P    Mr. Brian Forbes           1
Cisco Systems, Inc.         P    Mr. David Peterson         1
Congruent Software, Inc.    P    Mr. Peter Johansson        1
Crossroads Systems, Inc.    P    Mr. Robert Griswold        1
Dallas Semiconductor        A    Mr. Titkwan Hui            1
Dell Computer Corp.                                                   1
EMC Corp.                   A    Mr. David Black            1
Emulex                      P    Mr. Robert H. Nixon        1
ENDL Texas                  P    Mr. Ralph O. Weber         1
FCI                         P    Mr. Douglas Wagner         1
Fujitsu                                                               1
General Dynamics                                                      1
Hewlett Packard Co.         P    Mr. Rob Elliott            1
Hitachi Cable Manchester                                              1
Honda Connectors            P    Mr. Terry Enright          1
IBM / Tivoli Systems        P    Mr. George O. Penokie      1
Intel Corp.                 P    Mr. Cris Simpson           1
KnowledgeTek, Inc.          P    Mr. Dennis Moore           1
LSI Logic Corp.             P    Mr. John Lohmeyer          1
Maxtor Corp.                P    Mr. Mark Evans             1
Microsoft Corp.             P    Ms. Emily Hill             1
Molex Inc.                                                            1
Network Appliance Inc.      P    Mr. James R. (Bob) Davis   1
Nishan Systems Inc.         P    Mr. Charles Monia          1
Ophidian Designs                                                      1
Panasonic Technologies, Inc P    Dr. Terence J. Nelson      1
Philips Electronics/CD Edge P    Mr. William P. McFerrin    1
Pirus Networks                                                        1
QLogic Corp.                A#   Mr. Craig W. Carlson       1
Quantum Corp.               P    Mr. Paul Entzel            1
Seagate Technology          P    Mr. Gerald Houlder         1
Storage Technology Corp.                                              1
Sun Microsystems, Inc.      P    Mr. Vit Novak              1
Texas Instruments           A    Mr. Steve Hemmah           1
Toshiba America Elec. Comp. A    Mr. Tasuku Kasebayashi     1
Madison Cable Corp.                                                   1
UNISYS Corporation          P    Mr. Ron Mathews            1
Veritas Software            P    Mr. Roger Cummings         1
Vixel Corp.                 P    Mr. Kenneth Hirata         1
Western Digital Corporation                                           1

                                                           32  0   0 12 = 44

Gary Robinson was given an action item to transmit the SPI-5 NWIP
(T10/02-469r0).

11.2.4 SAS New Work Item Proposal to JTC1/SC25 (02-484r0) [Robinson]

John Lohmeyer moved and George Penokie seconded that T10 recommend that the US
approve and forward the NWIP (T10/02-484r0) for Serial Attached SCSI, SAS, to
JTC1/SC25 for further processing as an international standard project. The
proposed Project Editor is Gary S. Robinson.

The motion passed on a roll call vote 32:0:0:12=44. The details of the roll
call were the same as documented in 11.2.3.

Gary Robinson was given an action item to transmit the SAS NWIP
(T10/02-484r0).


12.    Liaison Reports

12.1   T11 Liaison Report (02-463r0) [Forbes]

Brian Forbes presented the T11 liaison report contained in T10/02-463r0.

12.2   T13 Liaison Report [Colegrove]

In the absence of Dan Colegrove, no report was available.

12.3   SFF Industry Group [Allan]

Dal Allan provided the following electronic report for the minutes.

A new revision of SFF-8470 Multi Lane Connector which includes jackscrew
dimension updates and non-keyed/representations in all figures is now
available at the ftp site and will go to technical ballot.

New revisions of SFF-8221 Aligned 2 1/2" drive and SFF-8x23 form factors for
the SAS connector will be included in the mailing for technical ballot.

A first revision of SFF-8424 Dual Row HSSDC-2 is anticipated to be included in
the mailing for technical ballot.

A letter was sent to Global Engineering after it came to light that they are
selling obsolete specifications which have been Expired by the SFF Committee
(some as long ago as 1995).

12.4   IEEE 1394 [Johansson]

Peter Johansson reported on IEEE 1394 activities and provided the following
electronic report for the minutes.

IEEE Std 1394b-2002, High Performance Serial Bus---Amendment 2 (which extends
Serial Bus to speeds in the range of 800 Mbps to 1600 Mbps and provides for
fiber-optic media), is an approved standard awaiting publication. IEEE 1394b
products have been demonstrated. Contact the Chair, David Wooten
(WD at Cypress.com) for details.

The Ballot Response Committee (BRC) for IEEE P1394.1, High Performance Serial
Bus Bridges, has resolved, in principal, all of the comments received during
Sponsor Ballot. The Editor is incorporating the agreed changes in anticipation
of a recirculation ballot this year, with projected approval as an IEEE
standard in 2003. Contact the Chair, Peter Johansson (PJohansson at ACM.org) for
details.

The BRC for IEEE P1394.3, Peer to Peer Data Transport, a protocol built upon
SBP-2, has resolved all Sponsor ballot comments. The Vice Chair, Alan Berkema
(Alan_Berkema at HP.com), is expected to initiate a recirculation ballot shortly.

The 1394 Trade Association Wireless working group is developing a "protocol
adaptation layer" (PAL) to enable IEEE 1394 applications to interoperate with
like applications in IEEE P802.11e devices. Some of the work is active in the
IEEE P802.11e (quality of service) working group. Contact John Fuller
(JFuller at Computer.org) for details.

12.5   SCSI Trade Association (STA) [Jones/Aloisi]

No report was available. John Lohmeyer noted that a SAS Tutorial will be
presented following this meeting.

12.6   IETF SCSI over IP [Black/Robinson]

David Black reported that iSCSI is about to go to an IETF Last Call. Most of
the IPS working group work is nearing completion. There will be a meeting in
Atlanta on November 18, 1:00 to 3:00 p.m., for meeting details see the IETF
web site www.ietf.org.

12.7   SNIA [Cummings]

Roger Cummings reported to the committee and provided the following electronic
report:

A SNIA symposium was held 9/14-17 in San Jose, CA, and all major Technical
Working Groups met except Backup. The Backup TWG has little ongoing activity,
and ideas for new work items are solicited. The Security TWG had 21 people in
attendance, and is resolving how they will work with the new Storage Security
Industry Forum. The SMI work proceeding apace, a roadmap has been created, a
first draft of the Rev 1.0 spec made available, and a target completion date
for Revision 1.0 spec set as March 2003. The Formation meeting of Storage
Management Forum was also held.

Storage Networking World was held 10/27-30 in Orlando, FL. 16 SNIA tutorials
were held on Sunday afternoon, and a 62 page booklet version of Storage
Network Security tutorial was made available. A major CIM-SAN demonstration
was held with 32 products from 19 vendors and over 100 points of
interoperation, and was a major success.

A Storage Management Summit will be held @ Cheyenne Mountain Resort in
Colorado Springs, CO on December 3-5, 2002. This is a detailed technical
conference on CIM, SMI etc., and includes detailed Technical Tutorials on key
technologies of CIM, WBEM, and Bluefin/SMIS taught by leading experts in the
industry. A demo showcase will also be included, following on from SNW.
Speakers include Harris Miller, President of the Information Technology
Association of America (ITAA), and Carolyn DiCenzo, Chief Analyst, Storage
Management Software, of Gartner Dataquest. The URL for registration for the
Forum is: http://www.snia.org/news/events/management_summit/register/. An
early bird discount of $100 is available for registration by 11/20.

An "IP Storage Works!" event follows in February 4-6, 2003

The next SNIA symposium (Working Groups and some Forum meetings) will be held
on Jan 27-31 in San Jose, CA. See www.snia.org for details of this an all
other items.


13.    Review of Action Items

490    John Lohmeyer will forward FCP-2 revision 08 to INCITS as resolving the
INCITS negative comments containing substantive changes for second public
review.
491    John Lohmeyer will work with INCITS to thank those who submitted INCITS
negative comments and communicate the actions taken by T10.
492    John Lohmeyer will forward 02-429r1 to INCITS as a new project proposal
for SAS-2.
493    George Penokie will post SPI-5 rev 5.
494    John Lohmeyer will forward SPI-5 rev 5 to INCITS for further processing
towards first public review.
495    George Penokie will prepare SPI-4 in the ISO style.
496    Gary Robinson will contribute SPI-4 Rev 10 to SC25.
497    Bill Ham will assure that SSM-2 and PIP have ISO NWIPs generated.
498    Gary Robinson will contribute SPC-2 i22 to SC25.
499    Gary Robinson will request an FCD contribution for FCP-2 at the January
Plenary.
500    Gary Robinson will transmit the SPI-5 NWIP (T10/02-469r0).
501    Gary Robinson will transmit the SAS NWIP (T10/02-484r0).


14.    Meeting Schedule

The next plenary meeting of T10 will be Thursday January 16, 2002 in Portland,
OR at the Embassy Suites - Washington Square (503-644-4000), hosted by Intel.
The meeting will begin at 9:00 a.m. on Thursday.

The meeting list for the next plenary week is:

                          January 2003 Meeting Map

Monday 1/13        9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
                   +=======================================+
                   | SSC-2 / SMC-2 WG                      |          (10)
                   +===============+=======================+
                   | SAS Protocol WG                       |          (40)
                   +===============+=======================+
                   | Par. SCSI WG  | SAS PHY WG            |          (25)
                   +===============+=======================+

Tuesday 1/14   8   9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
                   +===========================================+
                   | SAS Protocol WG                           |      (40)
                   +===============================+===========+
                   | SAS PHY WG                    |                  (25)
                   +===============================+
                   | ADI WG (tape library)         |                  (15)
                   +===============================+---+
                   | T11 Ad hocs                       |              (15)
                   +-----------------------------------+

Wednesday 1/15     9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
                   +==========================================+
                   | SCSI Commands, Arch.,                    +===============================+==========+
                   | MMC WG                        |                  (10)
                   +=======================+=======++
                                           |SFF mtgs|                 (20)
                                       +---+--------+------+
                                       | STA (closed mtg)  |          (20)
                                       +-------------------+

Thursday 1/16  8   9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
                   +=================+
                   | T10 Plenary     |                                (45)
                   +=================+=================+
                                     |SPC-3 Editing    |              (10)
                 +-------------------+=========+=======+
                 | STA (closed meeting)        |                      (20)
                 +-------------------+---------+

Friday 1/17    8   9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
               +===================+
               | SAS LB Resolution |                                  (10)
               +===================+

Meetings marked with == are T10-authorized meetings.
Meetings marked with -- are other groups and may change without notice.

 Other T10-authorized meetings:
Meeting         Date                Location / Contact
--------------  ------------------  --------------------------------------
SAS Prot Calls  Weekly Tuesday am   To be announced via T10 reflector
SAS PHY Calls   Weekly Monday pm    To be announced via T10 reflector
ADI Calls       three before 1/1/03 To be announced via T10 reflector
PIP Edit        11/12/02            Shrewsbury, MA / Hewlett Packard
PIP Edit        12/03/02            Guadalajara, MX / Electronica Pantera
PIP WG          12/04/02            Guadalajara, MX / Electronica Pantera
SSM WG          12/05/02            Guadalajara, MX / Electronica Pantera
SBP-3 WG        1/20-21/03          Wailea, HI / Johansson


 Map Abbreviation Key:
ADI:         Automation Drive Interface (tape library interface)
Amnd:        Amendment
CAP:         Commands, Architecture, and Protocols
Fast-80:     Data Transfer at 80 Mega-transfers/sec. (a.k.a., Ultra3,Ultra160)
Fast-160:    Data Transfer at 160 Mega-transfers/sec. (a.k.a., Ultra320)
FC:          Fibre Channel
I/F:         Interface
IETF:        Internet Engineering Task Force (the group that sets
             Internet standards)
iFC:         Internet Fibre Channel
IPS:         Internet Protocol SCSI
iSCSI:       Internet SCSI
LB:          Letter Ballot
MMC:         Multimedia Commands (CD-ROM, DVD, etc.)
OSD:         Object-based Storage Device
Par.:        Parallel (e.g., SPI-n)
PH or PHY:   Physical (Connectors, Cables, Transceivers, etc.)
PIP:         (SCSI) Passive Interconnect Performance
Plenary:     Full Committee Meeting
Res:         Resolution
SAS:         Serial Attached SCSI
SBC-2:       SCSI Block Commands - 2
SBP-3:       Serial Bus Protocol - 3
SCSI:        Small Computer System Interface
SES:         SCSI Enclosure Services
SFF:         SFF Industry Group (not an INCITS activity)
SG:          Study Group
SMC-2:       SCSI Medium Changer - 2 Commands
SPC-3:       SCSI Primary Commands - 2 (3rd generation)
SPI-4:       Fourth Generation SCSI Parallel Interface
SPI-5:       Fifth Generation SCSI Parallel Interface
SRP:         SCSI RDMA Protocol (was SVP)
SRP-2:       SCSI RDMA Protocol (2nd generation)
SSC-2:       SCSI Stream Commands - 2 (includes Tape)
SSM-2:       SCSI Signal Modeling (2nd generation)
SSWGs:       Specific-Subject Working Groups
STA:         SCSI Trade Association (Closed meeting -- not an INCITS activity)
STA Marcom:  STA Marketing Communications (Closed meeting -- not an INCITS
activity)
STA Tech:    STA Technical Meeting (T10 members invited)
STP:         Serial ATA Tunneled Protocol
T10:         Lower Level Interfaces Technical Committee
T11:         Device Level Interfaces Technical Committee
WG:          Working Group (same as Ad Hoc Group)



For more information about T10 activities, please contact the following
people:

Activity                     Contact         Telephone/Email
---------------------------- --------------- ------------------------------
ADP, ADT, ADC                Bob Griswold    (512) 928-7272
                                             rgriswold at crossroads.com
PIP, PIP-2                   Zane Daggett    (603) 669-4347 x236
                                             zdaggett at hcm.hitachi.com
SBC-2, SES-2, SAS            Rob Elliott     (281) 518-5037
                                             Robert.Elliott at compaq.com
MMC-2, MMC-3, MMC-4          Bill McFerrin   (303) 651-5400
                                             bill.mcferrin at cdedge.com
SBP-2 or RBC                 Pete McLean     (303) 678-2149
                                             pete_mclean at maxtor.com
SBP-2, SBP-3                 Peter Johansson (510) 527-3926
                                                   PJohansson at ACM.org
SCC-2, SPI-4, SPI-5, MSC     George Penokie  (507) 253-5208
                                             gpenokie at tivoli.com
SMC, SMC-2                   Erich Oetting   (303) 673-2178
                                             Erich_Oetting at Stortek.com
SPC-3, SAM-2, SAM-3, OSD     Ralph Weber     (214) 912-1373
                                             roweber at acm.org
SSC, SSC-2, FCP-2, FCP-3     Dave Peterson   (612) 802-3299
                                             dap at cisco.com
SRP, SRP-2                   Cris Simpson    (503) 712-4333
                                             cris.simpson at intel.com
SSM-2                        Paul Aloisi     (603) 222-8687
                                             paul_aloisi at ti.com
Other Activities             John Lohmeyer   (719) 533-7560
                                             lohmeyer at t10.org

The long-term T10 meeting week schedule is:

Date                Location                   Host/Comments
------------------  -------------------------  -----------------------------
Jan 13-17, 2003     Portland, OR               Intel
Mar 10-14, 2003     Dallas, TX                 T.I.
May 5-9, 2003       Nashua, NH                 Hitachi Cable
Jul 7-11, 2003      Colorado Springs, CO       LSI Logic [Dates Changed]
Sep 8-12, 2003      Seattle, WA                Microsoft
Nov 3-7, 2003       Austin, TX                 Crossroads
Jan 12-16, 2004     Chandler, AZ               Intel
Mar 8-12, 2004      (open)
May 3-7, 2004       Monterey, CA               Brocade
Jul 12-16, 2004     Colorado Springs, CO       LSI Logic
Sep 13-17, 2004     Portland, OR               Intel
Nov 8-12, 2004      Austin, TX                 Crossroads


14.1     Authorization of Working Group Meetings

John noted that the working group meetings are required to operate under the
same voting procedures as does T10 (that is, one vote per organization) and
the results of a working group are not binding on the parent committee. Ad hoc
groups should strive to achieve consensus prior to bringing issues to T10.

Charles Monia moved that T10 authorize the T10-related meetings and events in
the list above that had not previously been approved through the end of
February 2003. Gerry Houlder seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote
of 25:0:1:18=44, meeting the two-thirds rule required for the Wailea, HI
location.

Bill Galloway moved that the 2004 hosts and locations shown above be approved.
Mark Evans seconded the motion. In the absence of any objections, the motion
passed unanimously.

15.    Adjournment

John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the meeting be adjourned.
The motion passed unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 12:05 a.m. on
Thursday November 7, 2002.
Enclosure(1) -- Meeting Attendees

         Name          S        Organization         Electronic Mail Address
---------------------- -- ------------------------- -------------------------
Mr. Ron Roberts        P  Adaptec, Inc.             Ron_Roberts at adaptec.com
Dr. Claudio DeSanti    P  Andiamo Systems, Inc.     cds at andiamo.com
Mr. Bill Galloway      P  BREA Technologies, Inc.   billg at breatech.com
Mr. Brian Forbes       P  Brocade Comm. Systems,    bforbes at brocade.com
                          Inc.
Mr. David Peterson     P  Cisco Systems, Inc.       dap at cisco.com
Mr. Peter Johansson    P  Congruent Software, Inc.  PJohansson at ACM.org
Mr. Robert Griswold    P  Crossroads Systems, Inc.  rgriswold at crossroads.com
Mr. Titkwan Hui        A  Dallas Semiconductor      tk.hui at dalsemi.com
Mr. David Black        A  EMC Corp.                 black_david at emc.com
Mr. Robert H. Nixon    P  Emulex                    bob.nixon at emulex.com
Mr. Ralph O. Weber     P  ENDL Texas                roweber at acm.org
Mr. Douglas Wagner     P  FCI                       dwagner at fciconnect.com
Mr. Mike Fitzpatrick   P  Fujitsu                   mfitzpatrick at fcpa.
                                                    fujitsu.com
Mr. Rob Elliott        P  Hewlett Packard Co.       Elliott at hp.com
Dr. William Ham        A  Hewlett Packard Co.       bill_ham at ix.netcom.com
Mr. Werner Glinka      AV Hitachi America           werner.glinka at attglobal.
                                                    net
Mr. Zane Daggett       P  Hitachi Cable Manchester  zdaggett at hcm.hitachi.com
Mr. Hitoshi Ogawa      AV Hitachi Ltd.              h-ogawa at gm.str.hitachi.
                                                    co.jp
Mr. Terry Enright      P  Honda Connectors          tenright at hondaconnectors.
                                                    com
Mr. George O. Penokie  P  IBM / Tivoli Systems      gop at us.ibm.com
Mr. Cris Simpson       P  Intel Corp.               cris.simpson at intel.com
Mr. Dennis Moore       P  KnowledgeTek, Inc.        dmoore at ix.netcom.com
Mr. John Lohmeyer      P  LSI Logic Corp.           lohmeyer at t10.org
Mr. Mark Evans         P  Maxtor Corp.              mark_evans at maxtor.com
Ms. Emily Hill         P  Microsoft Corp.           emhill at microsoft.com
Mr. James R. (Bob)     P  Network Appliance Inc.    bob at netapp.com
Davis
Mr. Charles Monia      P  Nishan Systems Inc.       cmonia at nishansystems.com
Dr. Terence J. Nelson  P  Panasonic Technologies,   terry at tjnelson.com
                          Inc
Mr. William P.         P  Philips Electronics/CD    bill.mcferrin at cdedge.com
McFerrin                  Edge
Mr. Skip Jones         P  QLogic Corp.              skip.jones at qlogic.com
Mr. Paul Entzel        P  Quantum Corp.             paul.entzel at quantum.com
Mr. Gerald Houlder     P  Seagate Technology        gerry.houlder at seagate.com
Mr. Vit Novak          P  Sun Microsystems, Inc.    vit.novak at sun.com
Mr. Steve Hemmah       A  Texas Instruments         steven_hemmah at ti.com
Mr. Hiroshi Suzuki     P  Toshiba                   hiroshi.suzuki at tais.
                                                    toshiba.com
Mr. Tasuku Kasebayashi A  Toshiba                   task.kasebayashi at tais.
                                                    toshiba.com
Mr. Ron Mathews        P  UNISYS Corporation        ronald.mathews at unisys.com
Mr. Roger Cummings     P  Veritas Software          roger.cummings at veritas.
                                                    com
Mr. Kenneth Hirata     P  Vixel Corp.               Ken.Hirata at Vixel.com

39 People Present

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             AV   -  Advisory Member
             L    -  Liaison
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