-- [ From: Kenneth J. Hallam * EMC.Ver #2.3 ] -- Ralph, I was caught dipping straw wrappers in gravy and shooting them up to the ceiling, but never butter patties. They tend to fall back on you or your table mates, (but perhaps that was the idea, eh?). By the way, I liked the object, jumble applogy... it somehow fit the situation. Regards, Ken