X3T10 November 10, 1994 Minutes

John Lohmeyer jlohmeye at ncr-mpd.FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM
Wed Nov 16 14:01:12 PST 1994


Accredited Standards Committee
X3, Information Processing Systems
                                        Doc. No.:  X3T10/94-227r0
                                            Date:  November 15, 1994
                                         Project:  
                                       Ref. Doc.:  
                                        Reply to:  John Lohmeyer

To:         Membership of X3T10

From:       Ralph Weber, Secretary X3T10
            John Lohmeyer, Chair X3T10

Subject:    Minutes of X3T10 Plenary Meeting #6
            Palm Springs, CA -- November 10, 1994
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                                    Agenda


1.    Opening Remarks

2.    Approval of Agenda

3.    Attendance and Membership

4.    Approval of Minutes - September Meeting Houston, TX (X3T10/94-192r2)

5.    Document Distribution

6.    Call for Patents

7.    Review of Old Action Items

8.    Subgroup and/or Project Status Reports
   8.1   Project Status Summary and X3/OMC Liaison [Lohmeyer]
   8.2   X3T10.1 Task Group Report
   8.3   AT Attachment (ATA) Status {Project 791-D} [Lamers]
   8.4   SCSI Common Access Method (CAM) {Project 792-D} [Dallas]
   8.5   ATA Extensions (ATA-2) Status {Project 948-D} [Finch]
   8.6   SCSI-3 Parallel Interface (SPI) Status {Project 855-D} [Lamers]
   8.7   SCSI-3 Interlocked Protocol (SIP) Status {Project 856-D} [Penman]
   8.8   Directly-Addressable Device Interface (DADI) Status {Project 964-
         D} [open]
   8.9   SCSI Common Access Method -2 (CAM-2) Status {Project 990-D}
         [Dallas]
   8.10  SCSI-3 Generic Packetized Protocol (GPP) Status {Project 991-DT}
         [Stephens]
   8.11  SCSI-3 Serial Bus Protocol (SBP) Status {Project 992-D} [Marazas]
   8.12  SCSI-3 Fiber Channel Protocol (FCP) Status {Project 993-D}
         [Snively]
   8.13  SCSI-3 Architecture Model (SAM) Status {Project 994-D} [Monia]
   8.14  SCSI-3 Primary Commands (SPC) Status {Project 995-D} [Weber]
   8.15  SCSI-3 Block Commands (SBC) Status {Project 996-D} [Tewell]
   8.16  SCSI-3 Stream Commands (SSC) Status {Project 997-D} [Lappin]
   8.17  SCSI-3 Graphics Commands (SGC) Status {Project 998-D} [open]
   8.18  SCSI-3 Medium Changer Commands (SMC) Status {Project 999-D}
         [Oetting]
   8.19  SCSI-3 Controller Commands (SCC) Status {Project 1047-D}
         [Penokie]
   8.20  Multimedia Command Set (MMC) Status {Project 1048-D} [Harris]
   8.21  SCSI-3 Fast-20 Parallel Interface (Fast-20) {Project 1071-D}
         [Lamers]
   8.22  AT Attachment-3 Interface (ATA-3) Status {Project ____-D}
         [Milligan]
   8.23  XOR Commands Study Group [Houlder]

9.    Old Business
   9.1   X3T10 Procedures [Lamers]
   9.2   Resolution of ATAPI Letter Ballot Comments

10.   New Business
   10.1  Letter Ballot Results and Resolution
      10.1.1    Forwarding Log Sense TIB to X3 (94-204)
      10.1.2    Forwarding Sequential-Access TIB to X3 (94-205)
      10.1.3    Forwarding SCC to First Public Review (94-206)
      10.1.4    Project Proposal on SSA SCSI-2 Mapping Technical Report
                (94-207)
      10.1.5    Approving X3T10 Standards Development Policy and Procedure
                (94-208)
   10.2  Forwarding SPI to Second Public Review
   10.3  Forwarding CAM to Second Public Review
   10.4  Authorization of a letter ballot for Fast-20 [Lohmeyer]
   10.5  Clarification of international program fee [Allan]
   10.6  Authorization of a letter ballot for GPP [Lohmeyer]
   10.7  Fast-20 Termination [Aloisi]
   10.8  Error Handling for SCSI Controllers (94-024r5) [Hagerman]

11.   ISO [Milligan]
   11.1  Response to ISO Comments on SCSI-2 [Lamers]

12.   Liaison Reports
   12.1  X3T11 Liaison Report [Cummings]
   12.2  SFF Industry Group [Allan]
   12.3  IEEE P1394 [Marazas]
   12.4  IT8 [Lohmeyer]
   12.5  IEEE P1285 Status [Pak]
   12.6  PCMCIA Report [McLean]
   12.7  AIIM C21 [Podio]

13.   Review of Action Items

14.   Meeting Schedule
   14.1  Authorization of Working Group Meetings

15.   Adjournment

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                              Results of Meeting

1.    Opening Remarks

John Lohmeyer, the X3T10 Chair, called the meeting to order at 1:00 p.m.,
Thursday November 10, 1994.  He thanked Jeff Stai of Western Digital for
arranging and hosting the meeting.

John reported that, since the last meeting, Larry Lamers was appointed Vice
Chair of X3T10 and Gene Milligan was appointed International Representative. 
Also, John Scheible was appointed Chair of X3T10.1.  John noted that X3T10.1
still needs a Vice Chair.  He encouraged any interested persons to apply for
the Vice Chair position in X3T10.1.

John said that X3 Subgroup Membership forms and the X3T10 Mailing
Subscription form were available on the document table.  He said that people
should use the X3 forms to insure the X3 Secretariat has the latest
membership information.  These forms should be mailed directly to the X3
Secretariat.

As is customary, the people attending introduced themselves and a copy of the
attendance list was circulated.  Copies of the draft agenda and general
information on X3T10 were made available to those attending.

2.    Approval of Agenda

The draft agenda was approved with the following changes:

   Item 10.4 (Response to ISO Comments on SCSI-2 [Lamers]) was moved to 11.1.

   Added:
   10.4  Authorization of Fast-20 Letter Ballot
   10.5  Clarification of international program fee [Allan]
   10.6  Authorization of a letter ballot for GPP [Lohmeyer]
   10.7  Fast-20 Termination [Aloisi]
   10.8  Error Handling for SCSI Controllers (94-024r5) [Hagerman]

3.    Attendance and Membership

The membership requirements were reviewed.  X3 rules permit one vote per
organization.  An individual from a new organization must attend two out of
three consecutive plenary meetings.  He/she may apply for voting membership
the second meeting via a letter to the Chair of X3T10.  The individual may
vote at the second plenary meeting.  Working group meetings do not count
toward attendance requirements.

Organizations must also pay the X3 Service Fee ($300) to maintain membership. 
This year, the International Program fee ($300) will be billed separately
directly from ANSI.

The Chair said he had sent letters to 16 people from 9 organizations
informing them that their membership was in jeopardy due to non-attendance
(see 94-009r3) and that their membership would be terminated if they did not
attend this meeting.  All organizations were represented except: Foxconn;
Harbor Electronics; and Panasonic Industrial Co.  Principal members from
these organizations were changed to observers and the alternates were
terminated.

The following organization joined X3T10 at the meeting: Trimm Technologies.

The X3T10 membership is now at 56 organizations down from 58 organizations
last time.  Enclosure (1) is the list of the people present at the meeting
and enclosure (2) is the current X3T10 membership list.

4.    Approval of Minutes - September Meeting Houston, TX (X3T10/94-192r2)

The minutes were approved as written.

5.    Document Distribution

Members who have any problems with their mailing subscription should deal
directly with Katrina Gray or Dan Arnold at (202) 626-5741.

Larry Lamers requested that all documents for the next mailing be in his
hands by noon on Wednesday, November 23, 1994.  Documents received after this
date will go into a subsequent mailing.

Larry Lamers reminded the committee of the requirements for document
submission to be included in the committee mailing.  Since X3T10 meets its
document archiving requirements by including the X3 Secretariat on the
mailing list, documents included in the mailing must be suitable for
microfilming.  This means that high-quality, single-sided originals with
adequate margins and proper identification must be submitted.  Document
X3T9.2/92-84 R1 contains the list of requirements for submissions.

In keeping with the X3T10 committee's new efforts for electronic document
filing and distribution, Larry requested that electronic copies of all
documents be made available to him.  The electronic copies can be sent
directly to Larry.  Or, the electronic document can be placed on the SCSI
BBS.

As usual, minutes are also available on the SCSI BBS (719-574-0424) and will
be distributed to the ATA and SCSI Reflectors.  To be added to the ATA
Reflector, send an email to majordomo at dt.wdc.com with the line 'subscribe ata
your-email-address' in the message body.  To subscribe to the SCSI Reflector,
send an electronic message to: scsi-request at WichitaKS.NCR.COM.

The current document register is enclosure (3).

6.    Call for Patents

This is a regular agenda item to identify any potential patent issues with
developing standards.

A document is available from ANSI, "Procedures for the Development and
Coordination of American National Standards", at no charge.  Annex I contains
the ANSI patent policy.

Gene Milligan said that patents have been identified by their holders for the
secure mode.  There is one patent from IBM (94-125 in the June '94 X3T10
mailing) and one patent from Maxtor (94-246 in the December '94 mailing). 
X3T10 does not take a position on the validity or applicability of these
patents.  Contact the patent holders and/or ANSI for licensing information.

7.    Review of Old Action Items

26)   Larry Lamers will issue a letter ballot on the SSA SCSI-2 Protocol
      Technical Report X3T10/94-196r0. Complete.
27)   John Lohmeyer will authorize Jean Paul to pay the editing invoice from
      Sandy.  Complete.
28)   John Lohmeyer will authorize Jean Paul to pay the editing invoice from
      Kelly.  Complete.
29)   Larry Lamers will create a first working draft of the Fast-20 dpANS. 
      Complete.
30)   Larry Lamers will revise the SPI based on comments received to date. 
      Complete.
31)   Larry Lamers will issue a letter ballot on forwarding SCC revision 3
      to public review.  Complete.
32)   George Penokie will revise the Log Sense TIB based on comments from
      Gene Milligan.  Complete.
33)   Larry Lamers will issue a letter ballot on forwarding the Log Sense TIB
      (as revised) to public review.  Complete.
34)   Larry Lamers will issue a letter ballot on forwarding the Sequential
      Access TIB to public review.  Complete.
35)   Charles Monia will revise SAM as instructed producing SAM revision 16. 
      Complete.
36)   John Lohmeyer will forward SAM revision 16 to X3 for further processing
      toward first public review.  Complete.
37)   Bob Snively will revised FCP based on the approved proposal from Gene
      Milligan, producing FCP revision 10.  Complete.
38)   John Lohmeyer will forward FCP revision 10 to X3 for further processing
      toward first public review.  Complete.
39)   Ron Roberts will revise SBP based on comments from Giles Frazier,
      producing SBP revision 19.  Complete.
40)   John Lohmeyer will forward SBP revision 19 to X3 for further processing
      toward first public review. Complete.
41)   Larry Lamers will issue a letter ballot for approval of Gene Milligan's
      procedures proposal.  Complete.
42)   John Lohmeyer will forward the ATA-3 project proposal to X3 for further
      processing.  Complete.

8.    Subgroup and/or Project Status Reports

8.1   Project Status Summary and X3/OMC Liaison [Lohmeyer]

John Lohmeyer said that the current X3T10 project status summary was included
on the backs of the meeting agendas.

John announced that the rules of X3 (document SD-2) is at X3 letter ballot. 
The new rules will expedite handling of documents sent to X3 for processing. 
The compliance review will be overlapped with the first public review.  The
first public review will be reduced to 2 months (from 4 months).  Also, an
X3 letter ballot will be overlapped with the second public review.  All the
tasks described as overlapped above currently are done sequentially.

John announced that the project proposal making GPP a technical report has
been approved by X3.  The new project number is 991-DT.  ESDI is at BSR for
reaffirmation.

John announced that OMC has approved sending the FCP, SBP, and SAM dpANS
documents to first public review.  He is still trying to learn the status of
the ATA-3 project proposal, which also was at OMC.  It probably was sent to
X3 for letter ballot.

8.2   X3T10.1 Task Group Report

Ken Hallam reported that the SSA task group has met several times since
September.  Meetings have covered the SSA-PH, SSA electrical, and SSA to
SCSI-2 mapping.  Ken noted that the SSA-PH is very close to being ready.  Ken
said that the SSA mapping for SCSI-3 is not receiving much attention. 
Everybody is more interested in the SSA to SCSI-2 mapping.  The following
actions have been taken.

Adopted recommendations of October/November working groups for SSA-PH and
SSA-SCSI-2 (unanimous votes).  Reviewed electrical specifications drafted by
the working groups in October and November including, comprehensive
specifications on drivers/receivers, new benchmark for electrical interface
specifications, and completed work except for minor editorial items.

X3T10.1 approved incorporation of electrical specification into next revision
of 989-D (11:0).  X3T10.1 approved Host ID proposal, (8:2), changes physical
and protocol descriptions, 989-D, 1051-D and 94-060 (this allows Target to
establish alias for path description, used in some messages, and saves some
table lookup time).  X3T10.1 approved accumulated error reporting proposal,
(11:0) (this provides a way to report recovered error statistics).  X3T10.1
approved simplified procedure for reporting ports in Normal Mode, (7:2).  The
addition of option block description, (unitized connector) to 989-D was
approved (10:0).  Also, the response to letter ballot comments for SSA-SCSI-2
project was approved (11:0).

Ken reported that the December mailing will contain new revisions of all
working drafts and a letter ballot to forward 989-D.

8.3   AT Attachment (ATA) Status {Project 791-D} [Lamers]

AT Attachment has been published by ANSI as X3.221-1994.  Call 212-642-4900
for ordering information.

8.4   SCSI Common Access Method (CAM) {Project 792-D} [Dallas]

Bill Dallas reported that the working group unanimously recommended
forwarding CAM to second public review.

8.5   ATA Extensions (ATA-2) Status {Project 948-D} [Finch]

Larry Lamers reported.  The review of the document is continuing.  All
sections except 9 have been reviewed.  Section 8 has undergone significant
changes.  A meeting is scheduled for December 1 and 2 in Irvine, CA.  The
goal is to request a forwarding letter ballot following the January 1995
Plenary meeting.

8.6   SCSI-3 Parallel Interface (SPI) Status {Project 855-D} [Lamers]

Larry Lamers reported that the SPI document is nearly ready to go to second
public review.

Larry Lamers moved that an editing invoice (94-223) for $675.00 be accepted
for payment.  Paul Aloisi seconded the motion.  The motion was approved
33:0:23.

8.7   SCSI-3 Interlocked Protocol (SIP) Status {Project 856-D} [Penman]

Duncan Penman reported that he had been unable to get a first revision of SIP
ready yet.  Duncan said that his new goal is the next meeting.

8.8   Directly-Addressable Device Interface (DADI) Status {Project 964-D}
      [open]

John Lohmeyer announced that there still is not editor for DADI.  He plans
to introduce a motion in January to recommend the project be deleted if there
is no progress (volunteer for editor or proposal) by then.

8.9   SCSI Common Access Method -2 (CAM-2) Status {Project 990-D} [Dallas]

Bill Dallas reported that the CAM working group began studying proposals for
CAM-2.

8.10  SCSI-3 Generic Packetized Protocol (GPP) Status {Project 991-DT}
      [Stephens]

John reported that the new project designation is 991-DT.  Gary announced
intentions to have a draft ready for letter ballot very soon.  (See agenda
item 10.6.)

8.11  SCSI-3 Serial Bus Protocol (SBP) Status {Project 992-D} [Marazas]

Scott Smyers reported that the editors are waiting for SBP to go to public
review and for the comments that may be generated by the public review.

8.12  SCSI-3 Fiber Channel Protocol (FCP) Status {Project 993-D} [Snively]

Bob Snively reported that he is waiting for FCP to go to public review and
for the comments that may be generated by the public review.

8.13  SCSI-3 Architecture Model (SAM) Status {Project 994-D} [Monia]

Charles Monia reported that he is waiting for SAM to go to public review and
for the comments that may be generated by the public review.  The fact that
SAM was forwarded with one unresolved negative may increase the probability
of such comments.

8.14  SCSI-3 Primary Commands (SPC) Status {Project 995-D} [Weber]

Ralph Weber reported that SPC revision 3 was in the September mailing.  The
document now is complete, containing all known approved documents that apply
to the primary commands.  Ralph is awaiting the pleasure of X3T10 regarding
further processing of the SPC.  Ralph noted that between 2 and 4 working
documents will modify the SPC, if approved by X3T10.  However, a similar
situation likely will exist at nearly every Plenary meeting.

8.15  SCSI-3 Block Commands (SBC) Status {Project 996-D} [Tewell]

John Lohmeyer received a revision 0 copy of the SBC.  It will be in the next
X3T10 mailing and will be posted on the SCSI BBS and ncrinfo.ncr.com.

8.16  SCSI-3 Stream Commands (SSC) Status {Project 997-D} [Lappin]

Ted Lappin reported that a SSC working group discussed several issues of
importance to stream devices.  Ted has work items to generate specific
proposals to improve the SSC.  The proposals cover behavior of the TEST UNIT
READY command, addition a READ/WRITE REALLY command, handling of new density
codes, changes in the progress indicator sense-key specific data, and other
matters.

8.17  SCSI-3 Graphics Commands (SGC) Status {Project 998-D} [open]

John said that he would also introduce a motion to recommend that this
project may be terminated if no progress occurs.  Gene Milligan asked John
to take an action item to send a letter to Ricoh warning of the probable
termination of this project.  John accepted the action item.

8.18  SCSI-3 Medium Changer Commands (SMC) Status {Project 999-D} [Oetting]

Erich Oetting described the medium changer results of this morning's combined
SSC/SMC working group meeting.  The working group recommended changes for the
next revision of SMC.  Reserve and Release Element command will continue to
work as in SCSI-2.  This will be integrated into the next revision of SMC.

The Device Capabilities Page will be mandatory in the Attached Changer Model. 
This page is already mandatory for the Independent Changer Model.  The
Attached Changer Model is restricted to one Data Transfer Element.  Other
restrictions on element types in the Attached Changer Model will be removed. 
Volume Tags may be returned by the Read Element Status command in the
Attached Changer Model.

The working group also discussed possible enhancements for a future revision
of SMC.  Any ideas are welcome on how to do these: 1) find a way  to allow
mixed media types or densities in a media changer device, or 2) find a way
to return a global identity for an Import Export Element.  This would allow 
a host to recognize Import Export Elements that pass Media between two
changer devices.  The working group also would like to find a way to handle
groups of elements that move or act together, such as a magazine that imports
or exports 6 items at a time.  

8.19  SCSI-3 Controller Commands (SCC) Status {Project 1047-D} [Penokie]

George Penokie announced the detailed results of the SCC letter ballot.  As
a result of the current status of the SCC document, George announced that SCC
regular working group meeting have been discontinued.  SCC working group
meetings will be called on an as-needed basis.

8.20  Multimedia Command Set (MMC) Status {Project 1048-D} [Harris]

The working meeting was convened Monday afternoon at 1:30.  There were six
attendees total.  The current document is 2.0 and was distributed for review. 
Input from this study group will be placed in the next mailing.

This session was attended by several of the command set and protocol document
editors.  Good input was received regarding how to resolve cross references
and how to split command documentation requirements between existing document
and SPC.  Outstanding questions were discussed regarding whether the Red,
Yellow and Green Books can be cited as normative references since they are
proprietary documents.  This issue also was discussed during the plenary.

CDB formats will be updated to show the "SCSI-2 LUN field" as reserved per
SCSI-3 requirements.  A question arose regarding AUDIO SCAN operation.  In
particular it was asked whether a PLAY AUDIO Command could be issued during
a SCAN to resume play at normal speed.  The consensus was that this behavior
is allowed.  AUDIO SCAN and STOP/PLAY descriptions will be updated to
describe this behavior.

Norm reported that he is resigning as editor of MMC to pursue other duties. 
Ron Roberts has agreed to assume duties as editor and will conduct the next
working group meeting.  Norm will take any input on MMC until that time.

8.21  SCSI-3 Fast-20 Parallel Interface (Fast-20) {Project 1071-D} [Lamers]

Larry Lamers reported that the Fast-20 document is almost ready for a letter
ballot.  There are a few issues that Paul Aloisi has identified.  (See agenda
items 10.4 and 10.7).

8.22  AT Attachment-3 Interface (ATA-3) Status {Project ____-D} [Milligan]

Since the last plenary the ATA-3 ad hoc has held two meetings.  At the
October 19, 1994 meeting there were 27 attendees.  Highlights of the meeting
included the development of an ATA-3 Project Plan.  The ATA-3 Study Group
agreed to recommend that key elements of the project plan should be:

   Proposal cut off January 12, 1995 (later items slated for ATA-4)
   Preliminary description of proposed items by 11/10/94
   Consensus on approach and acceptance of a working document by March 1995
   Solidify the dpANS by July 1995
   Final edit by September 1995
   Initiate Letter Ballot for forwarding by November 1995

The group reviewed the list of new items suspended during the ATA-2 project
and selected those that should be dealt with by ATA-3.  It was agreed that
higher transfer rates should be DMA and not PIO. 

All prior proposals for ATA-3 that the proposer wishes to champion for
inclusion in this project should be re-posted on the ATA reflector to insure
that all participants have an opportunity to review and comment on the latest
version.  The group reviewed key attributes for command overlap and command
queuing as a guide to proposers of such functionality.  Gene Milligan is to
investigate the appropriateness of command queuing in the ATA-3 project
proposal.

At today's ad hoc the group benefitted from the attendance of Bob Snively to
discuss the recommended response to ATAPI project proposal letter ballot
comments.  The group passed a motion recommending that the statement on not
complying with SAM be removed from the ATAPI project proposal by a vote o
14:1.  Bob Informed us that the motion is sufficient to convert his vote to
yes.

On the assumption that this would resolve the project proposal issues, the
group discussed the plan to transition ATAPI from SFF to X3T10.  SFF plans
to resolve all outstanding issues on SFF 8020 and 8029 and then submit rev
2.0 of 8020 to X3T10 probably at the January meeting.  A study group on this
topic is requested for the week of January 9. 

As a result of the two ad hoc meetings the following topics are items the ad
hoc is recommending for consideration in ATA-3:

   a) Secure Mode
   b) ATA-3 Command overlap and command queuing proposals
   c) Greater than 16.6 MB/s DMA transfer rates
   d) Reset pulse width - to be resolved via Internet
   e) Power mode additional capability
   f) Predictive failure analysis reporting
   g) Error Detection
   h) Reduced command set
   I) 3.3 Volt signal level definition
   J) Additional DMA Commands

All participants are requested to post existing proposals for ATA-3 on the
ATA reflector and/or to submit new ATA-3 proposals for consideration in
preliminary concept form by November 10, 1994 and final form by January 12,
1995.

The ad hoc requests authorization for meetings November 30 in Irvine, CA.
hosted by Western Digital and January 12, 1995 at South Lake Tahoe, CA.
hosted by Silicon Systems.

The ad hoc also requested that the X3T10 Chair authorize an ATAPI ad hoc
meeting for the week of 9 January with a willingness for 13 January if
necessary and that the X3T10 Chair appoint a leader for the meeting.

Jim McGrath presented an overview of his proposal on command queuing and
command overlapping.  Because of the limited time Devon Worrell deferred his
overview presentation and will be the first presenter on 30 November.

8.23  XOR Commands Study Group [Houlder]

Bob Snively reported that the XOR study group is working on a new mode page
that identifies RAID strips on a drive.  The study group also worked on XOR
error recovery.  Bob reported that the system is being made responsible for
managing the error recovery.

9.    Old Business

9.1   X3T10 Procedures [Lamers]

Larry Lamers reported that he has not made much progress on drafting
procedures.

9.2   Resolution of ATAPI Letter Ballot Comments

Tom Hanan moved that X3T10 delete the statement "The application for the
proposed standard does not require compliance with the SCSI-3 Architectural
Model (SAM)." from the project proposal (2.2 Scope) for ATAPI in response to
the letter ballot comments and forward the revised project proposal to X3 for
further processing.  Paul Aloisi seconded the motion.

The roll-call vote passed 38:2:0:16.  Details of the roll-call vote are as
follows:

Organization                  Name                      Yes No Abs NP

3M Company                    Mr. Rick Heidick            1          
AMP, Inc.                     Mr. Bob Whiteman            1          
AT&T/ NCR Microelectronics    Mr. John Lohmeyer           1          
Adaptec, Inc.                 Mr. Lawrence J. Lamers      1          
Advanced Micro Devices                                              1
Amdahl Corp.                  Mr. Neil T. Wanamaker       1          
Amphenol Interconnect                                               1
Ancot Corp.                   Mr. Jan V. Dedek            1          
Apple Computer                Mr. Mike Eneboe             1          
Burr-Brown Corp.              Mr. Jason Albanus           1          
BusLogic                                                            1
CMD Technology                Mr. Edward Haske            1          
Ciprico Inc.                  Mr. Gerry Johnsen           1          
Circuit Assembly Corp.                                              1
Cirrus Logic Inc.             Mr. Joe Chen                1          
Compaq Computer Corp.                                               1
Congruent Software, Inc.                                            1
Conner Peripherals                                                  1
Dallas Semiconductor          Mr. Louis Grantham          1          
Digital Equipment Corp.       Mr. Charles Monia           1          
ENDL                          Mr. Kenneth J. Hallam       1          
Exabyte Corp.                 Mr. Edward Lappin           1          
FSI Consulting Services       Mr. Gary R. Stephens        1          
Fujitsu Computer Products,Am                                        1
Future Domain Corp.                                                 1
Hewlett Packard Co.           Mr. Pat Edsall              1          
Hitachi Micro Systems, Inc.                                         1
Honda Connectors              Mr. Thomas J. Kulesza       1          
IBM Corp.                     Mr. George Penokie          1          
Interphase Corp.              Mr. David Lawson            1          
Iomega Corp.                                                        1
Linfinity Micro               Mr. Dean Wallace            1          
Madison Cable Corp.                                                 1
Maxoptix Corp.                Mr. Ezra Alcudia            1          
Maxtor Corp.                  Mr. Pete McLean             1          
Methode Electronics, Inc.     Mr. Bob Masterson           1          
Molex Inc.                                                          1
NEC Technologies              Mr. Chris D'Iorio           1          
National Semiconductor        Mr. Robbie Shergill         1          
Oak Technology, Inc.          Mr. Peter Brown                1       
QLogic Corp.                  Mr. Skip Jones              1          
Quantum Corp.                 Mr. James McGrath              1       
Seagate Technology            Mr. Gene Milligan           1          
Silicon Systems, Inc.                                               1
Sony Corp. of America         Mr. Scott Smyers            1          
Storage Technology Corp.      Mr. Erich Oetting           1          
Sun Microsystems Computer Co  Mr. Robert N. Snively       1          
SyQuest Technology Corp.                                            1
Tandem Computers                                                    1
Thomas & Betts                Mr. Harvey Waltersdorf      1          
Trimm Industries              Mr. Gary M. Watson          1          
UNISYS Corporation            Mr. Peter Dougherty         1          
Unitrode Integrated Circuits  Mr. Paul D. Aloisi          1          
Western Digital Corporation   Mr. Tom Hanan               1          
Woven Electronics             Mr. Doug Piper              1          
Zadian Technologies           Mr. Duncan Penman           1          

                              Totals:                    38  2   0 16 = 56

Quantum described their no vote as being based on the need for a statement
about SAM compliance in the project proposal.

Larry took an action item to edit the revised project proposal.  John took
an action item to forward the project proposal to X3 for further processing. 

10.   New Business

10.1  Letter Ballot Results and Resolution

John Lohmeyer reported the results of five letter ballots (see 94-231).

10.1.1   Forwarding Log Sense TIB to X3 (94-204)

On 94-204 (Logging Operations TIB), the letter ballot results were 55:0:0:3. 
There were no comments received on 94-204.  Larry took an action item to
generate a properly formatted TIB.  John took an action item to forward the
TIB to X3 for further processing.  [Chair's note: A late arriving letter
ballot included an editorial 'Yes comment' which will be dealt with during
the document formatting.]

10.1.2   Forwarding Sequential-Access TIB to X3 (94-205)

On 94-205 (Sequential Access Partitions TIB), the letter ballot results were
55:0:0:3.  A yes-with-comments ballot was received from Seagate.  Ted Lappin
led a discussion of the comments from Gene Milligan (Seagate).  Gene Milligan
moved that X3T10 accept all the Seagate comments except number 6 and assign
such action items as are necessary to get the TIB to X3 for further
processing.  Ted Lappin seconded the motion.  The motion passed 38:0:0:18.

Ted Lappin took an action item to update the TIB based on the accepted
comments.  Larry took an action item to properly format the TIB and John will
forward the TIB to X3 for further processing.

10.1.3   Forwarding SCC to First Public Review (94-206)

On 94-206 (SCC forwarding to 1st public review), the letter ballot results
were 54:1:0:3.  Yes-with-comments ballots were received from IBM and
Unitrode.  The no vote came from Seagate.  Gene Milligan moved that X3T10
accept the resolution of the comments (as represented in 94-228).  Gary
Stephens seconded the motion.  The motion passed 32:0:24.

Gene Milligan requested that the recorded Seagate letter ballot vote on 94-
206 be changed from a no to a yes (final results: 55:0:0:3).

10.1.4   Project Proposal on SSA SCSI-2 Mapping Technical Report (94-207)

On 94-207 (SSA to SCSI-2 Mapping technical report project proposal, 94-
196r1), the letter ballot results were 53:2:0:3.  The no votes came from
Seagate and Unitrode.  Ken Hallam moved that X3T10 accept the responses to
the letter ballot comments (as represented in document in 94-235).  Gene
Milligan seconded the motion.  The motion passed 35:0:21.

John took an action item to forward the revised project proposal to X3 for
further processing.

10.1.5   Approving X3T10 Standards Development Policy and Procedure (94-208)

On 94-208 (X3T10 Policies and Procedures), the letter ballot results were
47:7:1:3.  Yes-with-comments ballots were received from Cirrus Logic, Digital
Equipment, and Unitrode.  No votes were received from Adaptec, Amdahl, AT&T,
FSI, Oak Technology, Storage Technology, and Western Digital.

John reported that the working group attempted to resolve the negative
comments but failed to complete the task.  John asked that a study group be
established to resolve the comments.  John and Gene felt that email would be
helpful for obtaining a resolution.  The Monday afternoon of the next X3T10
meeting week (9 January 1995) will be set aside for face-to-face work on a
resolution.

John Lohmeyer asked that anyone interested in participating in the discussion
send mail to Gene Milligan (Gene_Milligan at notes.seagate.com).  Gene will
compile the mailing list based on responses that he receives.  Discussion
turned to ensuring that all those who commented on the letter ballot are
automatically on the email list.  John took an action item to help Gene build
an email mailing list for the policies and procedures discussion.

Gary Stephens moved that the policies and procedures document be forwarded
to X3 without changes.  John Lohmeyer ruled the motion out of order.  John
based the ruling on his belief is that X3T10 must work to resolve the
negative comments.

Gary Stephens moved to appeal the decision of the chair.  Gary's motion to
appeal the decision of the chair failed for lack of a second.

10.2  Forwarding SPI to Second Public Review

Gary Stephens moved that SPI revision 15 be forward to X3 for second public
review.  Gary Watson seconded the motion.  Gene Milligan moved that
consideration of Gary's motion be postponed until the issue of regulated
terminators (Aloisi) has been considered.  Dean Wallace seconded the motion. 
The motion to postpone passed 21:5.

Paul Aloisi presented his issue with regulated terminators in the presence
of active negation drivers.  Paul explained that a source sink regulator is
needed to be sure that terminators do not pull lines out of range when
negation drivers pull other data lines close to the negation limit.

Paul's specific proposal is to add the following at the end of bullet b) in
Section 6.1.1 of the Fast-20 document:

   "even when all other signal lines are driven at 4,0 V d.c."

Larry noted that the proposal applies to the Fast-20 document, however a
similar problem exists in SPI.  The main difference between Fast-20 and SPI
is that active negation is optional in SPI and required in Fast-20.

Gene Milligan moved that consideration of regulated terminators topic be
assigned to SPI-2.  Skip Jones seconded the motion.  The effect of passing
Gene's motion to assign consideration would be that the committee will return
to the forwarding motion on SPI.  The motion to assign consideration to SPI-2
passed unanimously.

Consideration returned to forwarding SPI to second public review.  A roll-
call vote was taken on the motion.  The roll-call vote passed 38:0:0:18. 
Details of the roll-call vote were as follows:

Organization                  Name                    Yes No Abs NP

3M Company                    Mr. Rick Heidick          1
AMP, Inc.                     Mr. Bob Whiteman          1
AT&T/ NCR Microelectronics    Mr. John Lohmeyer         1
Adaptec, Inc.                 Mr. Norm Harris           1
Advanced Micro Devices                                            1
Amdahl Corp.                  Mr. Neil T. Wanamaker     1
Amphenol Interconnect         Mr. Michael Wingard       1
Ancot Corp.                   Mr. Jan V. Dedek          1
Apple Computer                                                    1
Burr-Brown Corp.              Mr. Jason Albanus         1
BusLogic                                                          1
CMD Technology                Mr. Edward Haske          1
Ciprico Inc.                  Mr. Gerry Johnsen         1
Circuit Assembly Corp.                                            1
Cirrus Logic Inc.                                                 1
Compaq Computer Corp.                                             1
Congruent Software, Inc.                                          1
Conner Peripherals                                                1
Dallas Semiconductor          Mr. Louis Grantham        1
Digital Equipment Corp.       Dr. William Ham           1
ENDL                          Mr. Kenneth J. Hallam     1
Exabyte Corp.                 Mr. Edward Lappin         1
FSI Consulting Services       Mr. Gary R. Stephens      1
Fujitsu Computer Products,Am                                      1
Future Domain Corp.                                               1
Hewlett Packard Co.           Mr. Pat Edsall            1
Hitachi Micro Systems, Inc.                                       1
Honda Connectors              Mr. Thomas J. Kulesza     1
IBM Corp.                     Mr. George Penokie        1
Interphase Corp.              Mr. David Lawson          1
Iomega Corp.                                                      1
Linfinity Micro               Mr. Dean Wallace          1
Madison Cable Corp.                                               1
Maxoptix Corp.                Mr. Ezra Alcudia          1
Maxtor Corp.                  Mr. Pete McLean           1
Methode Electronics, Inc.     Mr. Bob Masterson         1
Molex Inc.                                                        1
NEC Technologies              Mr. Chris D'Iorio         1
National Semiconductor        Mr. Robbie Shergill       1
Oak Technology, Inc.          Mr. Peter Brown           1
QLogic Corp.                  Mr. Skip Jones            1
Quantum Corp.                                                     1
Seagate Technology            Mr. Gene Milligan         1
Silicon Systems, Inc.                                             1
Sony Corp. of America         Mr. Scott Smyers          1
Storage Technology Corp.      Mr. Erich Oetting         1
Sun Microsystems Computer Co  Mr. Vit Novak             1
SyQuest Technology Corp.                                          1
Tandem Computers                                                  1
Thomas & Betts                Mr. Harvey Waltersdorf    1
Trimm Industries              Mr. Gary M. Watson        1
UNISYS Corporation            Mr. Peter Dougherty       1
Unitrode Integrated Circuits  Mr. Paul D. Aloisi        1
Western Digital Corporation   Mr. Jeff Stai             1
Woven Electronics             Mr. Doug Piper            1
Zadian Technologies           Mr. Duncan Penman         1

                              Totals:                  38  0   0 18

Larry took an action item to prepare SPI revision 15.  John took an action
item to forward SPI revision 15 to X3 for further processing.

10.3  Forwarding CAM to Second Public Review

Bill Dallas described the events that caused CAM revision 10 to be corrected
to produce revision 11.  The changes were described in a message to the SCSI
Reflector over two weeks ago.  The CAM working group unanimously recommended
forwarding CAM revision 11.

Gene Milligan questioned the blank page marked "Foreword" and several other
editorial problems.  Gene took an action item to report all editorial
problems to Bill Dallas.  Bill Dallas took an action correct the editorial
problems.

Neil Wanamaker moved that CAM revision 12 be forward to second public review. 
Ralph Weber seconded the motion.  A roll-call vote was taken.  The roll-call
vote passed 37:0:0:19.  Details of the roll-call vote were as follows:

Organization                  Name                    Yes No Abs NP

3M Company                    Mr. Rick Heidick          1
AMP, Inc.                     Mr. Bob Whiteman          1
AT&T/ NCR Microelectronics    Mr. John Lohmeyer         1
Adaptec, Inc.                 Mr. Norm Harris           1
Advanced Micro Devices                                            1
Amdahl Corp.                  Mr. Neil T. Wanamaker     1
Amphenol Interconnect         Mr. Michael Wingard       1
Ancot Corp.                   Mr. Jan V. Dedek          1
Apple Computer                                                    1
Burr-Brown Corp.              Mr. Jason Albanus         1
BusLogic                                                          1
CMD Technology                Mr. Edward Haske          1
Ciprico Inc.                  Mr. Gerry Johnsen         1
Circuit Assembly Corp.                                            1
Cirrus Logic Inc.                                                 1
Compaq Computer Corp.                                             1
Congruent Software, Inc.                                          1
Conner Peripherals                                                1
Dallas Semiconductor          Mr. Louis Grantham        1
Digital Equipment Corp.       Dr. William Ham           1
ENDL                          Mr. Kenneth J. Hallam     1
Exabyte Corp.                 Mr. Edward Lappin         1
FSI Consulting Services       Mr. Gary R. Stephens      1
Fujitsu Computer Products,Am                                      1
Future Domain Corp.                                               1
Hewlett Packard Co.           Mr. Pat Edsall            1
Hitachi Micro Systems, Inc.                                       1
Honda Connectors              Mr. Thomas J. Kulesza     1
IBM Corp.                                                         1
Interphase Corp.              Mr. David Lawson          1
Iomega Corp.                                                      1
Linfinity Micro               Mr. Dean Wallace          1
Madison Cable Corp.                                               1
Maxoptix Corp.                Mr. Ezra Alcudia          1
Maxtor Corp.                  Mr. Pete McLean           1
Methode Electronics, Inc.     Mr. Bob Masterson         1
Molex Inc.                                                        1
NEC Technologies              Mr. Chris D'Iorio         1
National Semiconductor        Mr. Robbie Shergill       1
Oak Technology, Inc.          Mr. Peter Brown           1
QLogic Corp.                  Mr. Skip Jones            1
Quantum Corp.                                                     1
Seagate Technology            Mr. Gene Milligan         1
Silicon Systems, Inc.                                             1
Sony Corp. of America         Mr. Scott Smyers          1
Storage Technology Corp.      Mr. Erich Oetting         1
Sun Microsystems Computer Co  Mr. Vit Novak             1
SyQuest Technology Corp.                                          1
Tandem Computers                                                  1
Thomas & Betts                Mr. Harvey Waltersdorf    1
Trimm Industries              Mr. Gary M. Watson        1
UNISYS Corporation            Mr. Peter Dougherty       1
Unitrode Integrated Circuits  Mr. Paul D. Aloisi        1
Western Digital Corporation   Mr. Jeff Stai             1
Woven Electronics             Mr. Doug Piper            1
Zadian Technologies           Mr. Duncan Penman         1

                              Totals:                  37  0   0 19

John took an action item to forward CAM revision 12 to X3 for further
processing.

10.4  Authorization of a letter ballot for Fast-20 [Lohmeyer]

John asked if anyone was opposed to issuing a letter ballot for forwarding
Fast-20 to first public review.  There were no objections.  Larry took an
action item to revise Fast-20 as noted in 10.7 below.  Larry took a second
action item to issue a letter ballot for Fast-20.

10.5  Clarification of international program fee [Allan]

Dal Allan presented a letter to John asking X3 why committee members are
charged international program fees for each X3 technical committee in which
they participate.  This is not the situation in IEEE.  Dal asked John to
forward his (Dal's) letter to X3.  John took an action item to send Dal's
letter to Jean-Paul Emard.

10.6  Authorization of a letter ballot for GPP [Lohmeyer]

John asked if anyone was opposed to issuing a letter ballot for forwarding
the GPP technical report to first public review.  There were no objections. 
Larry took an action item to issue a letter ballot for GPP.

10.7  Fast-20 Termination [Aloisi]

Paul Aloisi presented a proposal that a statement prohibiting on-device
termination be removed from the Fast-20 document.  After some discussion,
Paul Aloisi moved that the second paragraph in clause 6.1.1 (specifically,
"SCSI devices shall not include termination.") be removed from the Fast-20
document.  Jim McGrath seconded the motion.  The motion passed 32:2.

Gene Milligan moved that an informative Annex be added specifying the
capacitance budget within a Fast-20 device.  Dal Allan seconded the motion. 
The motion failed unanimously.

Gene Milligan moved that the regulated terminators issue (discussed under
10.2 above) be assigned to the SPI-2 study group.  The motion was seconded
by Skip Jones.  The motion passed unanimously.

10.8  Error Handling for SCSI Controllers (94-024r5) [Hagerman]

Erich Oetting moved and Ed Gardner seconded that the technical editor be
directed to include 94-024r5 into the SPC document.  The motion passed 23:0.

11.   ISO [Milligan]

Gene Milligan, the X3T10 International Representative, gave an oral report
and provided the following electronic report:

                             ISO Report
                            November 1994

Gene Milligan reported that he has established contact points for
determining the equivalent IEC standard for any copper components. 
If IEC does not have a standard, we can ask them to start a project
to create one.  In summary, we now have peace between X3T10 and
IEC.

Gene Milligan moved that X3T10 request the IR to double check the ISO status
of all forwarded dpANS documents and to generate new ISO work items for any
lacking an approved ISO project, with the exception of ATA.  Larry Lamers
seconded the motion.  The motion passed 28:0.

Gene Milligan took an action item to double check the ISO status of all
forwarded dpANS documents and to generate new work ISO items for any lacking
an approved ISO project, with the exception of ATA. 

11.1  Response to ISO Comments on SCSI-2 [Lamers]

Larry Lamers reported that SCSI-2 received 182 comments from Japan and 32
comments from Germany.  The major problems were use of "American National
Standards" and non-international references in the optical media table. 
Also, we should move the diode in the DIFFSENSE circuit and fix the pin 1
problems in the Flexible Disk mode page.  This was recommended by the working
group.

Larry Lamers moved that X3T10 accept the DIFFSENSE circuit and pin 1 changes
for inclusion in the ISO version of SCSI-2 and that the technical editor be
authorized to make the editorial changes required by the balance of the
comments from Japan and Germany.  Dal Allan seconded the motion.  The motion
passed 34:0.

Larry took an action item to generate the responses document for distribution
to ISO via the IR.  Larry took an action item to prepare a final ISO version
of SCSI-2.

12.   Liaison Reports

12.1  X3T11 Liaison Report [Cummings]

X3T11 met on October 12, 1994 with 69 attenders. Two member organizations
were added (Hitachi America and Mitre), and one deleted (Storage Concepts),
bringing the membership of X3T11 to 53.

X3 Letter Ballots on X3.230-199x, FC-PH Revision 4.3, and X3.254-199x, FC-FP
Revision 2.2 closed with no negatives.  In addition, the recommendations to
withdraw X3.176 and X3.177 also completed X3 Letter Ballots successfully. 
The next step for all of these items is therefore BSR review.

The first Public Review for X3.210-DAM:1, the Amendment to the HIPPI Framing
Protocol (HIPPI-FP), is expected to start early in November.

By a roll call vote of F37-O0-A16, FC-AL Revision 4.4 was forwarded for
further processing, including an OMC Compliance Review and a first Public
Review.  This vote is subsequent to an earlier Letter Ballot, which met the
2/3rds rule but included some comments.

A Project Proposal for a Fibre Channel Avionics Environment (FC-AE) was
forwarded for further processing by a vote of F30-O00-A23.

X3T11 Letter Ballots were authorized for the Revised IPI-3 Disk and Revised
IPI-3 Tape projects.  These ballots will be timed to close before the 12/94
X3T11 Plenary.  At the same time, a letter ballot to withdraw Project 782-D,
HIPPI-I3 will be circulated.  The information which was to be included in the
standard produced by this project is now part of the Revised IPI-3 Disk
document.

Submission of the X3.210 (HIPPI-FP), X3.218 (HIPPI-LE) and X3.222 (HIPPI-SC)
published ANSI standards for ISO Fast Track processing was authorized.

A vote to forward a Project Proposal for a standard named SBCON, which is
based on IBM's proprietary ESCON channel, failed late in the day for lack of
people in the room.  A letter ballot on this Project Proposal has therefore
been authorized.

The FC-EP0 Ad Hoc group raised the issue of optimal specifications for
shortwave laser variants at speeds greater than 1 gigabaud, and this was
discussed in detail.  The group has some concern that adequate testing may
not be possible within the constraints of the schedule currently planned for
FC-EP.

12.2  SFF Industry Group [Allan]

The PCI SIG which had also been using the name of SFF agreed to change its 
name to Small PCI.

A dimension difference between SFF-8009 and SFF-8012 on power pin dimensions 
has to be resolved.  Two SSWGs on device form factors and associated
connectors are expected to  produce several Specifications in the near
future.  The project for rack mount of drives with the Unitized Connector has
been  canceled. 

An idea on how to use the two remaining Reserved pins in the SCA connector 
to gather information from sensors in the cabinet was discussed.  The 
suggestion that disk drives provide the gathered information in a SCSI Mode 
Page met with a noticeable lack of enthusiasm by the drive vendors present.

Concerns were expressed over intermatability of AMP's SCA-2 blind mate 
connector proposal with the Molex SCA design.  A related issue is whether the 
resistor for the power pins will be on the drive or the backplane.

All but one of the outstanding issues on ATAPI SFF-8020 have been resolved. 
A new revision of SFF-8020 will be generated for submittal to X3T10 as part
of the ATA-3 and ATAPI projects.

The meetings on Friday morning have been going so smoothly that it may be 
possible to reduce the amount of time needed for SFF, and make do with an 
evening meeting.  With the ATA-3 and ATAPI projects wanting time, it is 
suggested a re-scheduling of plenary week meetings be considered.

12.3  IEEE P1394 [Marazas]

Jerry Marazas provided the following electronic report:

As previously reported, the IEEE of the ballot pool for voting upon
the P1394 draft standard has been formed.  The ballot pool consists
of over 130 voting members  as well as an additional 15 individuals
who have been granted the right to review and comments even though
they have not met IEEE requirements in order to vote. Revision 7.1
of the 1394 document has been mailed to participants in the ballot
pool for their review, comment, and as appropriate their vote.
Closure date (due date for vote and comments) is November 22, 1994.

Revision 7.1 differs in very minor respects from revision 7.0 which
was distributed to the X3T10 membership in the June mailing. There
are no technical changes in revision 7.1 relative to revision 7.0.
There are editorial changes in revision 7.1 introduced so as to
bring the format of the draft standard into conformity to recent
changes in IEEE editorial standards. It is expected that these
editorial conformance changes will act so as to minimize style and
format comments from various IEEE reviewers during the public
review phase. 

To repeat my previous offer, if there is any member of the X3T10
group who is not a member of the IEEE 1394 ballot pool, but wishes
to comment upon IEEE 1394, you may send your comments to me in
electronic form and I will incorporate those comments into my own.
So that I may complete my own vote on time, I need to have received
those comments prior to November 22, 1994.

I will post results of the IEEE 1394 ballot to both the SCSI and to
the 1394 reflectors. Based on experience of others who have gone
through the ratification process for an IEEE Standard, I expect the
comments regarding IEEE 1394 to be sufficiently numerous and
sufficiently technical that I will find it necessary  to form a
comments response committee. Assuming such a comments response
committee to be necessary, I shall seek to limit its size to 15 or
fewer parties and to require that all participants be willing to
undertake detailed level editing work. I expect that the first
meeting of the IEEE 1394 comments response committee will occur at
the end of January, 1995 and for the group to meet in the San Jose,
California area.

12.4  IT8 [Lohmeyer]

No report.  Gene proposed and John agreed that this liaison report be deleted
|from future agendas unless we received a specific report/request.

12.5  IEEE P1285 Status [Pak]

No report received.

12.6  PCMCIA Report [McLean]

The last meeting was two weeks ago, devoted to a page by page review of the
new release.  The schedule for the new release is review in December and
public release in January.

Larry Barnes (NCR) is heading a PCMCIA subgroup to review the relationship
of SCSI to PCMCIA.  That group will report to PCMCIA.

12.7  AIIM C21 [Podio]

George Penokie reported that he had been contacted by Fernando Podio. 
Fernando believes that, by assigning codes, X3T10 has approved their entire
proposal.  George (and other committee members) believed that AIIM would be
bringing a revised proposal back to X3T10.  John took an action item to
contact Fernando Podio regarding the status of the C21 project.

13.   Review of Action Items

43)   John Lohmeyer will write a letter to Ricoh warning of the probable
      termination of the SCSI-3 Graphics Commands project.
44)   Larry Lamers will edit the ATAPI project proposal as revised by the ATA
      working group.
45)   John Lohmeyer will forward the ATAPI project proposal to X3 for further
      processing.
46)   Larry Lamers will generate a properly formatted Logging Operations TIB.
47)   John Lohmeyer will forward the Logging Operations TIB to X3 for further
      processing.
48)   Ted Lappin will update the Sequential Access Partitions TIB based on
      the accepted comments.
49)   John Lohmeyer will forward a properly formatted Sequential Access
      Partitions TIB to X3 for further processing.
50)   John Lohmeyer will forward the revised SSA to SCSI-2 Mapping (94-196r1)
      project proposal to X3 for further processing.
51)   John Lohmeyer will help Gene Milligan build an email mailing list for
      the policies and procedures discussion.
52)   Larry Lamers will prepare SPI revision 15.
53)   John Lohmeyer will forward SPI revision 15 to X3 for further
      processing.
54)   Gene Milligan will report all CAM editorial problems to Bill Dallas.
55)   Bill Dallas will correct the editorial problems in CAM revision 11,
      producing revision 12.
56)   John Lohmeyer will forward CAM revision 12 to X3 for further
      processing.
57)   Larry Lamers will revise Fast-20 to strike the second paragraph of
      6.1.1.
58)   Larry Lamers will issue a letter ballot for Fast-20.
59)   John Lohmeyer will send Dal's international fees letter to Jean-Paul
      Emard.
60)   Larry Lamers will generate a properly formatted Sequential Access
      Partitions TIB.
61)   Larry Lamers will issue a letter ballot for GPP.
62)   Larry Lamers will generate the SCSI-2 responses document for
      distribution to ISO via the IR.
63)   Larry Lamers will prepare a final ISO version of SCSI-2.
64)   Gene Milligan will double check the ISO status of all forwarded dpANS
      documents and to generate new ISO work items for any lacking an
      approved ISO project, with the exception of ATA.
65)   John will contact Fernando Podio regarding the status of the C21
      project.
66)   John Lohmeyer will write a letter commenting on the SD-2 requesting
      that abstentions be permitted on technical votes at TCs and TGs.

14.   Meeting Schedule

The next plenary meeting of X3T10 will be January 12, 1995, in Lake Tahoe,
CA, at the Harrahs Lake Tahoe Hotel (702-786-3232), hosted by Silicon
Systems, Inc.  The meeting will begin at 1:00 pm on Thursday.

The meeting list for the next plenary week is:

                            January '95 Meeting Map

Sunday 1/8         9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
                                       +=======================+
                                       | Editor's meeting      |      (15)
                                       +=======================+

Monday 1/9         9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
                   +===========================================+
                   | Procedures Study Group                    |      (20)
                   +===============================+-----------+
                   | SSA-PH working group          | SSA UIG   |      (30)
                   +================+==============+-----------+
                                    | XOR study grp|                  (20)
                                    +==============+


Tuesday 1/10       9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
                   +===========================================+
                   |  X3T10.1                                  |      (40)
                   +===========================================+
                   |  SCSI-3 WG                                |      (40)
                   +===============+===========================+
                   |  CAM-2 WG     |                                  (10)
                   +===============+

Wednesday 1/11     9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9
                   +===============================================+
                   | SCSI-3 WG                                     |  (45)
                   +===============+============+==========+=======+
                                   |   MMC WG   | ATAPI WG |          (20)
                   +---------------+============+==+=======+
                   | SFF Form Factor WG            |                  (20)
                   +-------------------------------+

Thursday 1/12      9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9
                   +===============+===============================+
                   |  ATA-3 WG     | X3T10 Plenary                 |  (40/80)
                   +===============+===============================+
                   |  SSC/SMC WG   |                                  (10)
                   +===============+

Friday 1/13    8   9   10  11  12        
                 +--------------+        
                 | SFF          |                                     (40)
                 +--------------+

    Meetings marked with == are X3T10-authorized meetings.
    Meetings marked with -- are authorized by other groups and may change
    without notice.

Meeting Map Abbreviation Key:
ATA:              AT Attachment (a.k.a. IDE)
ATAPI:            ATA Packet Interface
CAM:              Common Access Method
El:               Electrical
Fast-20:          Synchronous Data Transfer at 20 Megatransfers/second
I/F:              Interface
LB:               Letter Ballot
MMC:              SCSI-3 Multimedia Commands (CD-ROM)
P1394:            IEEE Project on High Performance Serial Bus (not an X3            
                  activity)
Plenary:          Full Committee Meeting
RAB:              RAID Advisory Board (not an X3 activity)
RAID:             Redundant Array of Independent Devices
SCC:              SCSI-3 Controller Commands (RAID)
SFF:              Small Form Factor Industry Group (not an X3 activity)
SG:               Study Group
SPI2:             Second Generation SCSI-3 Parallel Interface
SSA:              Serial Storage Interface
SSP:              Serial Storage Protocol (Protocol for SSA)
UIG:              User Interest Group (not an X3 activity)
WG:               Working Group (same as Ad Hoc Group)
X3T10:            Lower Level Interfaces Technical Committee (was X3T9.2)
X3T10.1:          SSA Task Group of X3T10 (was X3T9.7)
XOR:              Exclusive OR


Several other X3T10 events are also planned:
Event                           Day/Date   Time      Location/contact
------------------------------- ---------  --------- -----------------------
ATA-3 working group             Wed/11-30   9:30     Irvine CA/Tom Hanan
ATA-2 working group             Thu/12-01   9:30     Irvine CA/Tom Hanan
ATA-2 working group             Fri/12-02   9:30     Irvine CA/Tom Hanan

For more information about X3T10 activities, please contact the following
people:

Activity                     Contact        Telephone/Email
---------------------------- -------------- ------------------------------
ATA-2                        Steve Finch    (714) 573-6808
                                            5723283 at mcimail.com
ATA-3                        Gene Milligan  (405) 324-3070
                                            Gene_Milligan at notes.seagate.com
CAM                          Bill Dallas    (603) 881-2508
                                            dallas at wasted.enet.dec.com
SAM                          Charles Monia  (508) 841-6757
                                            monia at starch.enet.dec.com
ATA, SPI, SCSI-2, Fast-20    Larry Lamers   (408) 432-4776
                                            lamers at aol.com
SIP                          Duncan Penman  (408) 894-0800 x35
                                            penman at netcom.com
SSA-PH                       Edward Gardner (719) 548-2247
                                            gardner at acm.com
SSP                          John Scheible  (512) 823-8208
                                            Scheible at vnet.ibm.com
FCP                          Robert Snively (415) 336-5332
                                            Bob.Snively at eng.sun.com
GPP                          Gary Stephens  (602) 321-1725
                                            6363897 at mcimail.com
SBP                          Ron Roberts    (408) 432-4322
                                            rkroberts at aol.com
SPC                          Ralph Weber    (603) 881-1497
                                            weber at star.enet.dec.com
SBC                          Thomas Tewell  (415) 459-7978
                                            thomas.tewell at seqadvtech.com
SSC                          Edward Lappin  (303) 447-7718
                                            tedl at exabyte.com
SMC                          Erich Oetting  (303) 673-2178
                                            Erich_Oetting at Stortek.com
MMC                          Norm Harris    (408) 945-8600 x2230
                                            nharris at adaptec.com
SCC                          George Penokie (507) 253-5208
                                            gop at rchvmp3.vnet.ibm.com
Other Activities             John Lohmeyer  (719) 573-3362
                                            john.lohmeyer at ftcollinsco.ncr.com

The long-term X3T10 meeting week schedule is:

Date             Location                  Host/Comments
---------------  ------------------------  --------------------------
Jan  9-13, 1995  Lake Tahoe, NV            SSI
Mar  5-10, 1995  Newport Beach, CA         QLogic
May  7-12, 1995  Harrisburg, PA            AMP
Jul  9-14, 1995  Colorado Springs, CO      NCR Microelectronics
Sep 10-15, 1995  Manchester, NH            Digital
Nov  5-10, 1995  Southern CA               Western Digital
Jan  8-12, 1996
Mar 11-15, 1996
May  6-10, 1996
Jul 15-19, 1996
Sep  9-13, 1996
Nov  4- 8, 1996  Southern CA               Western Digital

14.1  Authorization of Working Group Meetings

John noted that the working group meetings are required to operate under the
same voting procedures as does X3T10 (that is, one vote per organization) and
the results of a working group are not binding on the parent committee.  This
later requirement is why we have traditionally only used non-binding straw
polls in working group meetings.  Any issue where the voting rules would make
a difference should be deferred to the plenary group.  Nonetheless, task
groups and ad hocs should strive to achieve consensus prior to bringing
issues to X3T10.

Gary Watson moved and Pete McLean seconded that X3T10 authorize the X3T10-
related meetings and events in the list above.  The motion passed
unanimously.

15.   Adjournment

The meeting was adjourned at 6:47 p.m. on Thursday November 10, 1994.


                       Meeting Attenders -- Enclosure (1)

         Name          S        Organization         Electronic Mail Address
---------------------- -- ------------------------- -------------------------
Mr. Rick Heidick       A  3M Company                usmmm54s at ibmmail.com
Mr. Norm Harris        P  Adaptec, Inc.             nharris at eng.adaptec.com
Mr. Lawrence J. Lamers A# Adaptec, Inc.             ljlamers at aol.com
Mr. Neil T. Wanamaker  P  Amdahl Corp.              ntw20 at eng.amdahl.com
Mr. Edward Fong        O  Amdahl Corp.              esf10 at amail.amdahl.com
Mr. Bob Whiteman       A  AMP, Inc.                 whiteman at cup.portal.com
Mr. Michael Wingard    A  Amphenol Interconnect
Mr. Jan V. Dedek       P  Ancot Corp.               dedek at ancot.com
Mr. Ron Roberts        P  Apple Computer            rkroberts at aol.com
Mr. Mike Eneboe        A# Apple Computer            teener at apple.com
Mr. John Lohmeyer      P  AT&T/ NCR                 john.lohmeyer at ftcollinsco
                          Microelectronics          .ncr.com
Mr. Jason Albanus      P  Burr-Brown Corp.          Albanus_Jason at bbrown.com
Mr. Gerry Johnsen      P  Ciprico Inc.              gerry at ciprico.com
Mr. Ian Morrell        P  Circuit Assembly Corp.    crctassmbl at aol.com
Mr. Joe Chen           P  Cirrus Logic Inc.         chen at cirrus.com
Mr. Edward Haske       P  CMD Technology
Mr. Louis Grantham     P  Dallas Semiconductor      grantham at dalsemi.com
Mr. Charles Monia      P  Digital Equipment Corp.   monia at starch.enet.dec.com
Mr. William Dallas     A# Digital Equipment Corp.   dallas at wasted.enet.dec.co
                                                    m
Dr. William Ham        A# Digital Equipment Corp.   ham at subsys.enet.dec.com
Mr. Ralph Weber        A# Digital Equipment Corp.   roweber at acm.com
Mr. I. Dal Allan       P  ENDL                      2501752 at mcimail.com
Mr. Kenneth J. Hallam  A  ENDL                      3450626 at mcimail.com
Mr. Edward Lappin      P  Exabyte Corp.             tedl at exabyte.com
Mr. Gary R. Stephens   P  FSI Consulting Services   6363897 at mcimail.com
Mr. Pat Edsall         O  Hewlett Packard Co.       edsall at hpdmd48.boi.hp.com
Mr. Thomas J. Kulesza  A  Honda Connectors
Mr. George Penokie     P  IBM Corp.                 gop at rchvmp3.vnet.ibm.com
Dr. Gerald Marazas     A# IBM PC Company            marazas at bcrvmpc2.vnet.ibm
                                                    .com
Mr. David Lawson       P  Interphase Corp.          lawson at iphase.com
Mr. Lansing Sloan      O  Lawrence Livermore Nat'l  ljsloan at llnl.gov
                          Lab
Mr. Dean Wallace       P  Linfinity Micro
Mr. Robert Bellino     P  Madison Cable Corp.
Mr. Ezra Alcudia       A  Maxoptix Corp.
Mr. Pete McLean        P  Maxtor Corp.              pete_mclean at maxtor.com
Mr. Bob Masterson      P  Methode Electronics, Inc.
Mr. Jay Neer           O  Molex Inc.                jneer at usa.molex.com
Mr. Robbie Shergill    P  National Semiconductor    rss at berlioz.nsc.com
Mr. Clifford Carlson   O  NCCOSC RDTE DIV 821       wcarlson at nosc.mil
Mr. Robert J.          O  NCCOSC RDTE DIV 821       gallenbe at nosc.mil
Gallenberger
Mr. Chris D'Iorio      A# NEC Technologies          CD-iorio at nectech.com
Mr. Peter Brown        P  Oak Technology, Inc.      brown at oaktech.com
Mr. Skip Jones         P  QLogic Corp.              sk_jones at qlc.com
Mr. Michael Carpenter  O  QLogic Corp.              m_carpenter at qlc.com
Mr. James McGrath      P  Quantum Corp.             JMCGRATH at QNTM.COM
Mr. Edward A. Gardner  A  Quantum Corp.             gardner at acm.com
Mr. Gene Milligan      P  Seagate Technology        Gene_Milligan at notes.seaga
                                                    te.com
Mr. Scott Smyers       P  Sony Corp. of America     scotts at lsi.sel.sony.com
Mr. Erich Oetting      P  Storage Technology Corp.  Erich_Oetting at Stortek.com
Mr. Roger Cummings     A  Storage Technology Corp.  Roger_Cummings at Stortek.co
                                                    m


                       Meeting Attenders -- Enclosure (1)

         Name          S        Organization         Electronic Mail Address
---------------------- -- ------------------------- -------------------------
Mr. Robert N. Snively  P  Sun Microsystems Computer bob.snively at eng.sun.com
                          Co
Mr. Vit Novak          A  Sun Microsystems, Inc.    vit.novak at sun.com
Mr. Bill Boyd          O  Texas Instruments         bboy%mimi at magic.itg.ti.co
                                                    m
Mr. Harvey Waltersdorf P  Thomas & Betts
Mr. Gary M. Watson     P  Trimm Industries          trimm at netcom.com
Mr. Peter Dougherty    P  UNISYS Corporation        peter.dougherty at mv-oc.uni
                                                    sys.com
Mr. Paul D. Aloisi     P  Unitrode Integrated       Aloisi at uicc.com
                          Circuits
Mr. Michael G.         O  Volex Inc.                Mike_Kaminski at volex.com
Kaminski
Mr. Jeff Stai          P  Western Digital           stai at dt.wdc.com
                          Corporation
Mr. Tak Asami          A  Western Digital           asami at dt.wdc.com
                          Corporation
Mr. Devon Worrell      A# Western Digital           worrell at dt.wdc.com
                          Corporation
Mr. Tom Hanan          A# Western Digital           hanan_t at a1.wdc.com
                          Corporation
Mr. Doug Piper         P  Woven Electronics         WOVEN ELECTRONICS / MCI
                                                    ID: 549-9900
Mr. Duncan Penman      P  Zadian Technologies       penman at netcom.com

64 People Present

Status Key:  P    -  Principal
             A,A# -  Alternate
             O    -  Observer
             L    -  Liaison
             V    -  Visitor

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