X3T10 Minutes July 21, 1994

John Lohmeyer jlohmeye at ncr-mpd.FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM
Wed Jul 27 09:27:28 PDT 1994


Accredited Standards Committee
X3, Information Processing Systems
                                        Doc. No.:  X3T10/94-150r0
                                            Date:  July 26, 1994
                                         Project:  
                                       Ref. Doc.:  
                                        Reply to:  John Lohmeyer

To:         Membership of X3T10

From:       Ralph Weber, Secretary X3T10
            John Lohmeyer, Chair X3T10

Subject:    Minutes of X3T10 Plenary Meeting #4
            Bedford, NH -- July 21, 1994
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                                    Agenda


1.    Opening Remarks

2.    Approval of Agenda

3.    Attendance and Membership

4.    Approval of Minutes - May Meeting Harrisburg, PA (X3T10/94-123r0)

5.    Document Distribution

6.    Call for Patents

7.    Review of Old Action Items

8.    Subgroup and/or Project Status Reports
   8.1   Project Status Summary [Lohmeyer]
   8.2   X3T10.1 Task Group Report
   8.3   SCSI-2 Status {Project 375-M} [Lamers]
   8.4   SCSI Common Access Method (CAM) {Project 792-D} [Dallas]
   8.5   AT Attachment (ATA) Status {Project 791-D} [Lamers]
   8.6   ATA Extensions (ATA-2) Status {Project 948-D} [Finch]
   8.7   SCSI-3 Architecture Model (SAM) Status {Project 994-D} [Monia]
   8.8   SCSI-3 Parallel Interface (SPI) Status {Project 855-D} [Lamers]
   8.9   SCSI-3 Interlocked Protocol (SIP) Status {Project 856-D} [Penman]
   8.10  SCSI-3 Generic Packetized Protocol (GPP) Status {Project 991-D}
         [Stephens]
   8.11  SCSI-3 Serial Bus Protocol (SBP) Status {Project 992-D} [Marazas]
   8.12  SCSI-3 Fiber Channel Protocol (FCP) Status {Project 993-D}
         [Snively]
   8.13  SCSI-3 Primary Commands (SPC) Status {Project 995-D} [Weber]
   8.14  SCSI-3 Block Commands (SBC) Status {Project 996-D} [Tewell]
   8.15  SCSI-3 Stream Commands (SSC) Status {Project 997-D} [Lappin]
   8.16  SCSI-3 Graphics Commands (SGC) Status {Project 998-D} [open]
   8.17  SCSI-3 Medium Changer Commands (SMC) Status {Project 999-D}
         [Oetting]
   8.18  Directly-Addressable Device Interface (DADI) Status {Project 964-
         D} [open]
   8.19  SCSI Common Access Method -2 (CAM-2) Status {Project 990-D}
         [Dallas]
   8.20  SCSI-3 Controller Commands (SCC) Status {Project 1047-D}
         [Penokie]
   8.21  Multimedia Command Set (MMC) Status {Project 1048-D} [Harris]
   8.22  Replacement of ANSI X3.80-1988, Interfaces Between Flexible Disk
         Cartridges and Their Host Controllers, with ISO 9315:1989.
         {Project 52-M}
   8.23  Fast-20 Study Group [Ham]

9.    Old Business
   9.1   Technical Information Bulletins
   9.2   ASC Codes for Scanner Window Descriptor Bytes Proposal (94-110r1)
         [Weber]
   9.3   Checking of Reserved Fields (94-130) [Lohmeyer]

10.   New Business
   10.1  Revised GPP Project Proposal Letter Ballot Results [Lohmeyer]
   10.2  SCSI-3 Download Microcode (94-104r3) [Cummings]
   10.3  Resolution of FCP Letter Ballot Comments
   10.4  Resolution of SAM Letter Ballot Comments
   10.5  Resolution of SBP Letter Ballot Comments
   10.6  CAM Forwarding for Second Public Review
   10.7  X3T10 Procedures [Lamers]
   10.8  Transfer Period tolerance in SIP/SPI (94-142r0) [Galloway]
   10.9  SCSI-3 SPI Issues (94-038r4) [Aloisi]
   10.10    Request for New Density Codes for Sequential Access Medium
            (94-147r1) [Cummings]
   10.11    Request for New ASC/ASCQ Codes (94-148r1) [Cummings]
   10.12    Annual Publication of Documents [Milligan]
   10.13    Differential Sense [Snively]
   10.14    READ POSITION command for SSC (94-137) [Lappin]
   10.15    XOR Commands Study Group (94-111) [Houlder]
   10.16    Message Handling Chart for SIP (94-032) [Houlder]
   10.17    SCAM Annex Proposal (94-133) [Gardner/Lamers/Lohmeyer]
   10.18    Acceptance motion(s) for other documents [Lohmeyer]

11.   ISO [Milligan]
   11.1  Alternative ISO process [Allan]

12.   Liaison Reports
   12.1  X3T11 Liaison Report [Cummings]
   12.2  SFF Industry Group [Allan]
   12.3  IEEE P1394 [Marazas]
   12.4  IT8 [Lohmeyer]
   12.5  IEEE P1285 Status [Pak]
   12.6  PCMCIA Report [McLean]
   12.7  AIIM C21 [Podio]

13.   Review of Action Items

14.   Meeting Schedule
   14.1  Authorization of Working Group Meetings

15.   Adjournment

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                              Results of Meeting

1.    Opening Remarks

John Lohmeyer, the newly-appointed X3T10 Chair, called the meeting to order
at 1:04 p.m., Thursday July 21, 1994.  He thanked Ralph Weber and Charles
Monia of Digital Equipment Corp. for arranging and hosting the meeting.

John said that X3 Subgroup Membership forms and the X3T10 Mailing
Subscription form were available on the document table.  He said that people
should use the X3 forms to insure the X3 Secretariat has the latest
membership information.  These forms should be mailed directly to the X3
Secretariat.

As is customary, the people attending introduced themselves and a copy of the
attendance list was circulated.  Copies of the draft agenda and general
information on X3T10 were made available to those attending.

John introduced Janet Burnham-Sauter from Global Engineering Documents. 
Global is developing a hypertext representation of the SCSI, Fibre Channel,
IPI, HIPPI, and ATA documents.  Janet had given a demo of the prototype
product that morning.  The documents will be distributed electronically by
Global on CD-ROMs.  Global will be charging a subscription fee.  Ed Gardner
asked about copyright restrictions, but no definitive answer was yet
available.  For more information, contact Kathi Kankis, also with Global
Engineering Documents, at 303-397-2296.

2.    Approval of Agenda

The draft agenda was approved with the following additions:

   10.8  Transfer Period tolerance in SIP/SPI (94-142r0) [Galloway]
   10.9  SCSI-3 SPI Issues (94-038r4) [Aloisi]
   10.10    Request for New Density Codes for Sequential Access Medium
            (94-147r1) [Cummings]
   10.11    Request for New ASC/ASCQ Codes (94-148r1) [Cummings]
   10.12    Annual Publication of Documents [Milligan]
   10.13    Differential Sense [Snively]
   10.14    READ POSITION command for SSC (94-137) [Lappin]
   10.15    XOR Commands Study Group (94-111) [Houlder]
   10.16    Message Handling Chart for SIP (94-032) [Houlder]
   10.17    SCAM Annex Proposal (94-133) [Gardner/Lamers/Lohmeyer]
   10.18    Acceptance motion(s) for other documents [Lohmeyer]

3.    Attendance and Membership

The membership requirements were reviewed.  X3 rules permit one vote per
organization.  An individual from a new organization must attend two out of
three consecutive plenary meetings.  He/she may apply for voting membership
the second meeting via a letter to the Chair of X3T10.  The individual may
vote at the second plenary meeting.  Working group meetings do not count
toward attendance requirements.

Organizations must also pay the X3 Service Fee ($300) to maintain membership. 
This year, the International Program fee ($300) will be billed separately
directly from ANSI.

The Chair said he had sent letter to 8 people from 5 organizations informing
them that their membership was in jeopardy due to failure to return two
consecutive letter ballots and that their membership would be terminated if
they failed to return the next letter ballot.  All organizations except
Samsung Semiconductor returned the GPP ballot.  Samsung was changed to
observer status.

The Chair said he had sent letters to 19 people from 9 organizations
informing them that their membership was in jeopardy due to non-attendance
(see 94-009r0) and that their membership would be terminated if they did not
attend this meeting.  All organizations were represented except: JAE, P. E.
Logic Corp., and Samsung Semiconductor.  Principal members from these
organizations were changed to observers.

The following organizations joined X3T10 at the meeting: Amphenol
Interconnect, Congruent Software, Inc., Iomega, and Zadian Technologies.

The X3T10 membership is now at 61 organizations up from 60 organizations last
time.  Enclosure (1) is the list of the people present at the meeting and
enclosure (2) is the current X3T10 membership list.

4.    Approval of Minutes - May Meeting Harrisburg, PA (X3T10/94-123r0)

The minutes were approved as written.

5.    Document Distribution

Members who have any problems with their mailing subscription should deal
directly with Katrina Gray or Dan Arnold at (202) 626-5741.

Larry Lamers requested that all documents for the next mailing must be sent
so as to be received by noon on Thursday, August 4, 1994.  Documents received
after this date will go into a subsequent mailing.

Larry Lamers reminded the committee of the requirements for document
submission to be included in the committee mailing.  Since X3T10 meets its
document archiving requirements by including the X3 Secretariat on the
mailing list, documents included in the mailing must be suitable for
microfilming.  This means that high-quality, single-sided originals with
adequate margins and proper identification must be submitted.  Document
X3T9.2/92-84 R1 contains the list of requirements for submissions.

As usual, minutes are also available on the SCSI BBS (719-574-0424) and will
be distributed to the ATA and SCSI Reflectors.  To be added to the ATA
Reflector, send an email to majordomo at dt.wdc.com with the line 'subscribe ata
your-email-address' in the message body.  To subscribe to the SCSI Reflector,
send an electronic message to: scsi-request at WichitaKS.NCR.COM.

The current document register is enclosure (3).

6.    Call for Patents

This is a regular agenda item to identify any potential patent issues with
developing standards.

A document is available from ANSI, "Procedures for the Development and
Coordination of American National Standards", at no charge.  Annex I contains
the ANSI patent policy.

7.    Review of Old Action Items

10)   John Lohmeyer will contact Lynn Barra regarding the LOG SENSE TIB
      (X3T9.2/90-165) which is on hold.  Carry over.
15)   Bob Snively will investigate liaison with IEEE P1244.5.  Dropped.
16)   Ralph Weber will contact Tetsuro Motoyama regarding his desired
      disposition of X3T9.2/93-036r1.  Complete.
17)   John Lohmeyer will revise the SCSI-3 Fast-20 project proposal (94-
      060r1) based on the comments accepted at the Plenary meeting. 
      Complete.
18)   John Lohmeyer will forward the revised SCSI-3 Fast-20 project proposal
      (94-060r2) to Lynn Barra with appropriate documentation.  Complete.
19)   John Lohmeyer will send Lynn Barra the results of the SCSI-2 vote. 
      Complete.
20)   John Lohmeyer conduct a letter ballot on the GPP project proposal
      (94-099r0).  Complete.
21)   George Penokie will prepare a revision of the LOG SENSE TIB.  Carry
      over.

8.    Subgroup and/or Project Status Reports

8.1   Project Status Summary [Lohmeyer]

John Lohmeyer said that the current X3T10 project status summary was included
on the backs of the meeting agendas.

8.2   X3T10.1 Task Group Report

John Scheible reported on the current activities of X3T10.1:

               July X3T10.1 Liaison report to X3T10
               ====================================

*  Continue SSA Electrical Interface working group

*  Entire July meeting dedicated to SSA-PH

*  Approved the following items

        - Letter ballot on SSA-SCSI2 technical report to be issued

        - Include SSA Electrical Interface working group notes in
          informative annex of SSA-PH pending inclusion in the
          appropriate sections.

        - Approved clarification for inclusion:
                -- Clarify Acknowledge time-outs
                -- Clarify Response message is generated for Async_alert 
  
                -- Clarify which port issues Async Alert
                -- Clarify Alert_port field in Master_alert
                -- Clarify when SAT character is forwarded.

*  Meeting schedule is as follows

        - Aug  17,  9:00- 5:00 in Keystone CO,  Electrical Interface WG
        - Aug  18,  9:00- 8:00 in Keystone CO,  SSA-PH working group
        - Aug  19,  8:00-12:00 in Keystone CO,  SSA-PH Working group

        - Sept 12,  9:00- 5:00 in Houston, TX,  Electrical Interface WG
        - Sept 13,  9:00- 8:00 in Houston, TX,  X3T10.1 Plenary
                                                to review SSA-PH

        - Oct 18-19 in Havant England           Electrical Interface WG

*  Mailing schedule (Primary and one alternate)

        - By 7/29 (cutoff 7/25) for July meeting mailing and SSA-PH
          rev 1A (Word version, no technical changes

        - By 8/26 for proposed modifications of SSA-PH from the Aug
          18/19 meeting for review next plenary

*  Next plenary meeting (Sept 13) will review the work done by
   the SSA-PH working group


8.3   SCSI-2 Status {Project 375-M} [Lamers]

John Lohmeyer reported that the published ANSI SCSI-2 standard is expected
to be available in August.

8.4   SCSI Common Access Method (CAM) {Project 792-D} [Dallas]

Bill Dallas reported that the CAM working group reviewed the changes between
revision 7 and 8.  Bill has been directed to re-work the soft reset handling
text substantially.  There were many editorial comments made during the
phase-cognizant mode review.  The host target mode has been reviewed several
times and is in good shape.

8.5   AT Attachment (ATA) Status {Project 791-D} [Lamers]

BSR approved AT Attachment on May 12, 1994.  It is now in the publication
phase.  Steve Finch moved that we authorize the quotation (94-157) for
professional editing work on the AT document in the amount of $350.00.  Erich
Oetting seconded the motion.  The motion passed 30:0:0:30.

8.6   ATA Extensions (ATA-2) Status {Project 948-D} [Finch]

Steve Finch reported that the ATA working group has met three times since the
last plenary meeting.  The working group has a goal of accepting ATA-2 Rev
2b as working draft for the project.

Gene Milligan moved that X3T10 accept ATA Extensions (ATA-2) revision 2e as
the committee working draft for project 948-D.  Richard Kalish seconded the
motion.  The motion passed 39:0:0:21.

Gene Milligan moved that in response to the negative comments on the ATA
letter ballots that X3T10 cancel the four previous project proposals, 94-
019r2, 94-020r2, 94-021r2, and 94-022r2 and conduct letter ballots for
forwarding the replacement project proposals 94-019r4 and 94-022r4 to X3 for
further processing.  Steve Finch seconded the motion.

During the discussion, John noted that, even though all the previous
proposals passed, each proposal received about six negative comments.  We are
required to address negative comments.  Deleting two of the project proposals
is our response.  Tom Hanan raised concerns about the delays introduced by
the letter ballot.  John said that letter ballots are the most expeditious
mechanism for handling the negative review comments.  Selection of editors
for the proposed documents also was discussed.

Gene's motion was approved 31:1:0:29.

8.7   SCSI-3 Architecture Model (SAM) Status {Project 994-D} [Monia]

Charles Monia reported on revision 14 of SAM.  All changes were in response
to letter ballot comments.  The major changes were in the queuing model and
the reserved field handling.  During the working group review, additional
queuing model changes were identified.  The working group also noted that
approved dual port documents need to be incorporated in the SAM, with wording
revised as necessary to change from SIP terminology to SAM terminology.

Gary Stephens moved that in the process of editing the SIP dual port
documents to SAM the two port concepts be changed to multiple ports.  The
motion failed for lack of a second.

Charles agreed to prepare revision 15 of SAM for the August mailing. 
Revision 15 will include the changes noted by the working group.

8.8   SCSI-3 Parallel Interface (SPI) Status {Project 855-D} [Lamers]

Revision 12c was in the April mailing.  The major difficulty with revision
13 is editing SCAM terminology to be consistent with the rest of SPI.  Larry
could not guaranteed revision 13 availability for the next mailing.

Gene Milligan expressed concern about the delays in SPI completion caused by
the incorporation of SCAM.

8.9   SCSI-3 Interlocked Protocol (SIP) Status {Project 856-D} [Penman]

Duncan Penman has volunteered to edit SIP.  Gary Stephens moved that X3T10
accept the $2,000 quotation (94-158) for converting SIP from Word Perfect to
Framemaker.  Duncan Penman seconded the motion.  Gene Milligan questioned the
choice of Framemaker.  The motion passed 33:1:0:26.  Gene's objection was to
the use of text editing software that is not widely used.

8.10  SCSI-3 Generic Packetized Protocol (GPP) Status {Project 991-D}
      [Stephens]

Gary reported that the only activity on GPP is the transition from standard
to technical report.  John asked Larry to determine the style rules for a X3
technical report.

8.11  SCSI-3 Serial Bus Protocol (SBP) Status {Project 992-D} [Marazas]

Jerry reported that SBP letter ballot comments received by the May 1994
deadline are recorded in a proposed disposition document dated June 9, 1994. 
The changes resulting to the SBP document (X3T10 document 992D) are reflected
in Revision 17 also dated June 9, 1994.  Both documents above were included
in the X3T10 June mailing.  A limited number of each document were made
available at both the July 20, 1994 Working Group meeting and the July 21,
1994 Plenary session.  Submitters of the original comments have indicated
satisfaction with the disposition appearing in Revision 17.

Subsequently, on July 15, a new proposal involving limited technical changes
to SBP has been submitted by Apple Computer.  This proposal (which is
summarized below) represents a significant simplification in that  there is
now assurance that within SBP, no isochronous application data unit is split
across two consecutive IEEE P1394 isochronous data block packets.  Also,
additional editorial comments to Revision 17 have been submitted by IBM. The
combination of technical changes submitted by Apple and editorial changes
submitted by IBM now requires publication of a new revision of  SBP, Revision
18.  This new version of SBP will be requested for inclusion in the August
mailing and for discussion / consideration at the September meeting.

The technical proposal from Apple is a continuation of their isochronous
topic comments submitted originally in May.  The new proposal was developed
with significant collaboration involving active members of the Digital VCR
committee.  Additionally, the proposal has been reviewed by certain major 
companies in the consumer electronics market.

Key elements of the Apple proposal are as follows:
   (a) The IEEE 1394 isochronous data block packet is characterized as
   carrying an integer number of isochronous data payload packets.  These
   isochronous data payload packets are specified by some isochronous
   application, such as a digital VCR using isochronous data.  The key idea
   resulting in a significant simplification is that SBP now requires there
   to be an integer number of these payload packets within an isochronous
   data block packet.
   (b) There is introduced in the isochronous login CDS a new parameter, L,
   which is the number of bytes within an isochronous data payload packet.
   (c) The isochronous data rate parameter R is now expressed in units of
   isochronous data payload packets per second rather than its former
   characterization of bytes per second.  The formula for rate R continues
   to be the same, namely R = (I + N/D).
   (d) Since an isochronous data payload packet no longer spans two
   consecutive isochronous data block packets, there is no longer a need for
   the byte offset field in bytes 50 and 51 of the Stream Control CDS. 
   Consequently, the byte offset parameter is removed and the associated
   field becomes reserved.

As stated, the plan for SBP is to incorporate the new comments from Apple and
|from IBM into Revision 18 which is to be distributed in the August X3T10
mailing.  A copy of the Apple technical proposal also will be included within
the August mailing so as to provide a clear indication of areas of SBP having
been changed technically.  A meeting  vote will be requested at the September
Plenary session for the purpose of accepting Revision 18 as a satisfactory
resolution of all comments submitted relative to SBP as a part of its letter
ballot in May.  Authorization will be requested for forwarding Revision 18
to X3 for review and vote.

8.12  SCSI-3 Fiber Channel Protocol (FCP) Status {Project 993-D} [Snively]

Bob reported that two FCP review meetings have been held since the last
plenary meeting.  All but one of the letter ballot comments have been
resolved.  That one comment will be discussed later at this meeting. 
Additional comments have been received since the letter ballot.  Those
comments have resulted in non-substantive technical and editorial changes. 

Revision 9 is being prepared to address final resolutions.  Bob said that the
plan is to get acceptance of the comments resolutions and forwarding of FCP
to public review at the September meeting.

8.13  SCSI-3 Primary Commands (SPC) Status {Project 995-D} [Weber]

Ralph Weber reported that a detailed review of the SPC was held earlier this
week.  He is ready to prepare revision 2 to address the comments received so
far and to complete inclusion of the medium changer commands.  Ralph intends
to have SPC revision 2 in the August mailing.

8.14  SCSI-3 Block Commands (SBC) Status {Project 996-D} [Tewell]

Thomas "Rick" Tewell has volunteered to edit SBC.  While he is not a current
member of X3T10, he plans to join.  He previously participated on the CAM
Committee.

8.15  SCSI-3 Stream Commands (SSC) Status {Project 997-D} [Lappin]

Ted requested a lengthy review of the SSC document during the September
meeting week.

8.16  SCSI-3 Graphics Commands (SGC) Status {Project 998-D} [open]

There was a discussion of possible sources of an editor.  No reliable sources
of editors could be found.  Larry noted that, if no editor can be found, he
will be moving for cancellation of the project (and elimination of the
Graphic Commands standard).

8.17  SCSI-3 Medium Changer Commands (SMC) Status {Project 999-D} [Oetting]

Erich reported that revision 0 is the draft of record for the SMC.  Erich is
trying to create his editor copy of the SMC document.  His starting point is
a text file supplied to him by Gary Stephens.

8.18  Directly-Addressable Device Interface (DADI) Status {Project 964-D}
      [open]

John noted the absence of an editor and that this is another project that
should be cancelled if no editor is forthcoming.  He said that he had
received a request that the project be kept open as the requestor's company
may have a proposal to submit against this project.

8.19  SCSI Common Access Method -2 (CAM-2) Status {Project 990-D} [Dallas]

This project is in hibernation pending completion of the resolution work for
CAM public review comments.

8.20  SCSI-3 Controller Commands (SCC) Status {Project 1047-D} [Penokie]

George reported that revision 0 of the SSC is available.  Revision 0 contains
four documents, formerly known as:

   -  SDA Model (94-040)
   -  SDA States and Types (94-041)
   -  SDA Commands and Mode Pages (94-042)
   -  SCSI-2 Logical Unit Addressing (94-031)

The working group approved several changes to SCC revision 0, specifically:

    -    Added vendor specific bit to target base device states
    -    Added device type to states descriptor
    -    Removed DACL states from component state
    -    Added an automatic LUN assignment bit to several service actions
    -    Added a Break Peripheral Device service action

George described plans for an overview presentation of the SSC during the
September meeting week.

Jim McGrath asked about the state of the RAID 5 proposal from Seagate. 
George and Gene Milligan said that the proposal more properly applies to the
SBC, not the SCC.

George moved that X3T10 accept SCSI-3 Controller Commands revision 0 as the
committee working draft for project 1047-D.  Charles Monia seconded the
motion.  The motion passed unanimously.

8.21  Multimedia Command Set (MMC) Status {Project 1048-D} [Harris]

Norm Harris was not available to report.  Larry reported that Norm has asked
for a MMC working group meeting during the September meeting week.  The
meeting was assigned to Monday afternoon.

8.22  Replacement of ANSI X3.80-1988, Interfaces Between Flexible Disk
      Cartridges and Their Host Controllers, with ISO 9315:1989. {Project 52-
      M}

ANSI BSR approved adopting ISO 9315:1989 as an American National Standard. 
The standard will be designated: ANSI/ISO/IEC 9315:1989[1994].  Essentially,
ANSI has adopted the ISO equivalent standard.

8.23  Fast-20 Study Group [Ham]

Bill Ham led a discussion of the 25 pF vs 20 pF capacitance issues in SPI. 
(See the working group minutes, 94-149, for more information on this.)  Bill
presented four options:

    -    Accept 25 pF and proceed with forwarding the Fast-20 document
    -    Accept 20 pF but change nothing else and proceed with forwarding
         Fast-20
    -    Accept 20 pF and develop new configuration rules for pure Fast-20
         systems
    -    Accept 20 pF and develop new configuration rules for mixed Fast-20
         and SCSI-2 systems

Bill Galloway moved that the 20 pF value remain in the document until the
next plenary meeting, at which point the value will be considered again. 
Larry Lamers seconded the motion.  The motion passed 25:9:0:26.

Jim McGrath proposed scheduling another meeting to review the Adaptec testing
results.  Jim believed that the meeting should be held between now and the
September meeting week.  Larry promised to provide the testing results out
in electronic mail as soon as possible, but could not commit to a date prior
to the September meeting week.

John also mentioned the working group had recommended changing the slew rate
|from 540 mv/ns to 520 mv/ns.  The change makes Fast-20 consistent with SPI. 
There was no disagreement at the plenary meeting with this recommendation.

9.    Old Business

9.1   Technical Information Bulletins

George Penokie is working on a revision of the Log Sense TIB for SCSI-2. 
Gary Stephens has given a copy of the Sequential Access TIB for SCSI-2 to Ted
Lappin.  There was some confusion regarding the owner of the Sequential
Access TIB.  Ted plans to discuss the issue with Gary.

9.2   ASC Codes for Scanner Window Descriptor Bytes Proposal (94-110r1)
      [Weber]

Ralph presented a graphics proposal from Ricoh that was almost approved in
1993.  The only problem last time was the ASC value, which should have been
66h not 65h.  Ralph moved that 94-110r1 be approved for inclusion in the SGC
with the new ASC/ASCQ values being included in the SPC.  Jeff Williams
seconded the motion.  The motion was approved unanimously.

9.3   Checking of Reserved Fields (94-130) [Lohmeyer]

John presented a definition for a new Control mode page bit that manages
target checking of reserved fields and bits.  The proposal had been
recommended for acceptance by the working group.  There was a lengthy
discussion.  While the proposal made it possible for initiators to discover
the device server behavior on reserved bit checking, it could require device
servers to have even more firmware to support both checking and not checking
reserved bits.

Gerry Houlder moved that 94-130r0 be accepted for inclusion in the SPC. 
Larry Lamers seconded the motion.  The motion was defeated 7:26:0:27.

10.   New Business

10.1  Revised GPP Project Proposal Letter Ballot Results [Lohmeyer]

GPP Revised Project Proposal Letter Ballot Results: 45:3:0:12 = 60

No: ENDL, Exabyte, FSI

Did not respond:   Amdahl, Circuit Assembly Corp, CMD Technology, Interphase, 
                   Molex, National Semiconductor, Oak Technology, Quantum, 
                   Samsung Semiconductor, Sony, Sun Microsystems, Thomas &
                   Betts

Comments:

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ENDL:

GPP has been a project for several years, with the purpose of supporting 
SCSI in a variety of generic applications. 

There has been no observable market confusion. What there has been is 
irritation within the committee over comments made by the GPP editor in 
promoting GPP as an alternative to SSP and SBP and FCP. These are internal 
committee issues which would have been more properly addressed by rewriting 
the scope. 

There have been several opportunities to review GPP but those who recently 
took a stand opposing it as a standard were not active in the process of 
review. Despite the lack of broad participation, it was agreed that the 
content of GPP is technically sound and complete. 

This action sets the unwelcome precedent of tacitly encouraging members in 
the minority to contribute significant time and effort and then denying them 
the purpose of their work, a standard. 

Either the value of GPP should have been questioned long ago, or the document
should have been allowed to continue as a dpANS. 

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Exabyte:

The procedure of approving a project and waiting until it is almost complete
to remove its project status seems to be a bad way of doing business.  I 
object to this procedure.  Therefore, I must vote NO.

My voting NO on forwarding this converted proposal for GPP is not indicative
of a position on the content, validity, or usefulness of GPP.

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FSI:

Please see document, X3T10/94-167, for this comment.  It consists of a 
presentation detailing the relative performance of FCP, GPP, and SIP and it
concludes that GPP is faster than FCP and SIP.
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The comments were such that no resolution is possible.  John Lohmeyer took
an action item to forward the revised GPP project proposal 94-099r1 and
negative letter ballot comments to X3 for further processing.

10.2  SCSI-3 Download Microcode (94-104r3) [Cummings]

Ken Cummings presented a revision of his proposal to enhance the WRITE BUFFER
command.  Questions were raised regarding the management of drive state
before a microcode download.  Jim McGrath moved that 94-104r3 be accepted as
revised for inclusion in the SPC.  Ted Lappin seconded the motion.  The
motion passed 26:0:0:34.

10.3  Resolution of FCP Letter Ballot Comments

Bob reported that many editorial comments have been received and resolved. 
A normative annex has been added to include the PRLI definition, which is not
yet a standard, itself.  Several ISO fixes have been made to FCP.  Two
remaining technical comments were resolved at the working group meeting.  The
comments resolved concern the handling of overlaid data and definition of
residual counts.

Bob undertook resolving the last outstanding issue, handling of optional
fields by FCP transports, at the plenary.  Bob proposed a specific rewording
of the optional fields rules in FCP.

Gene Milligan moved that X3T10 accept the resolution of the letter ballot
comments as shown in the several minutes documents.  Gary Stephens seconded
the motion.  The motion passed 32:0:0:28.

10.4  Resolution of SAM Letter Ballot Comments

Charles has prepared a document listing the proposed resolutions for letter
ballot comments.  The persons who voted negatively on the letter ballot
acknowledged the adequacy of the proposed resolutions.  However, they
reserved judgement of the revised document pending their ability to review
it.

10.5  Resolution of SBP Letter Ballot Comments

See agenda item 8.11.

10.6  CAM Forwarding for Second Public Review

The CAM working group has generated sufficient work to prevent a forwarding
vote at this time.

10.7  X3T10 Procedures [Lamers]

Larry described a procedures package that he is preparing for the August
mailing.  Larry offered defining "final action" as an example of information
that would go in the procedures document.  When asked, Larry said that the
document probably will contain eight to ten pages.  Gene and Larry discussed
specific examples of ideas for the procedures document.

10.8  Transfer Period tolerance in SIP/SPI (94-142r0) [Galloway]

Bill Galloway moved that 94-142r0 be accepted for inclusion in the next
revision of SPI.  Ed Gardner seconded the motion.  Bill noted that the
working group recommended approval of the proposal by a vote of 17:3.

During the discussion Bill accepted some minor changes to his proposal.  So,
the motion was amended to '94-142r0 as revised'.  The motion to accept 94-
142r0 as revised was approved by a vote of 29:2:0:29.

10.9  SCSI-3 SPI Issues (94-038r4) [Aloisi]

Paul presented his proposed changes to SPI for hot plugging of devices. 
During a lengthy discussion, Paul received several corrections for the second
page of his proposal.  Dean Wallace moved that the revised 94-038r4 be
accepted for inclusion in the SPI.  Paul Aloisi seconded the motion.  The
motion was approved 22:2:0:36.

10.10    Request for New Density Codes for Sequential Access Medium (94-
         147r1) [Cummings]

Ken Cummings presented his request for a 3490E density code.  Ken also asked
for two density codes for IBM and one for Storage Technology Corp. for
products in design.

Jeff William moved that 94-147r1 be accepted for inclusion in the SSC.  Ted
Lappin seconded the motion.  20:0:0:40:
10.11    Request for New ASC/ASCQ Codes (94-148r1) [Cummings]

Jeff Williams moved that 94-148r1 be accepted for inclusion in the SPC. 
Ralph Weber seconded.  The motion passed 21:0:0:39.

10.12    Annual Publication of Documents [Milligan]

Gene Milligan asked that the technical committee adopt procedures that favor
timely delivery of standards documents.  Gene proposed yearly publication of
documents.  Several committee members complained about the tendency to add
one more late-breaking feature just as the standard should be going to
publication.

Larry noted that we will hear lots of motherhood and apple pie statements
tonight.  Then, more revisions will be thrown in at the next meeting.

Gene Milligan took an action item to draft proposed procedures for periodic/
timely publication of documents until a standard becomes dormant.

10.13    Differential Sense [Snively]

Bob described a problem where the differential sense line was omitted from
the SCA connector.  Bob asked whether the SCA connector needs a differential
sense line?  That is, do SCSI devices at the end of a wire need to know that
they are running differential?  Bob asked the committee to consider the issue
and prepare to discuss it at the next meeting.

Gene Milligan described a new issue from SFF, also regarding differential
sense.  The area of concern is a backplane definition for SFF.  The backplane
currently has a pin for the differential sense line.  Gene wants the location
of the pin moved.  Gene's proposal generated lots of discussion and a
specific recommendation was not forwarded to SFF (where it was resolved the
next day).

10.14    READ POSITION command for SSC (94-137) [Lappin]

Ted Lappin presented his proposal to enhance the stream command READ POSITION
to return all position information in a single data-In buffer response. 
George Penokie moved to accept 94-137r0 for inclusion in the SSC.  Jeff
Williams seconded the motion.  The motion passed 26:0:0:34.

10.15    XOR Commands Study Group (94-111) [Houlder]

Gerry Houlder requested authorization for a study group for the XOR commands
proposal.  John said that a study group meeting will be scheduled during the
September meeting week.

10.16    Message Handling Chart for SIP (94-032) [Houlder]

Gerry asked if the concept of a recommended message handling was acceptable
to anyone present.  Gerry Houlder moved that 94-032r0 be accepted for
inclusion in SIP.  Jim McGrath seconded the motion.  The motion was defeated
2:25:0:0.

10.17    SCAM Annex Proposal (94-133) [Gardner/Lamers/Lohmeyer]

John presented a document (94-133r0) describing changes in the SCAM annex
that currently appears in SPI.  John noted that most of the changes affect
hosts.

Jim McGrath moved that X3T10 approve technical items 1, 3, 4, 5, and 6 94-
133r0 (the entire document, except technical item 2) be approved for
incorporation in SPI.  Ed Gardner seconded the motion.
The motion passed 24:0:0:36.

Jim McGrath moved that X3T10 approved technical item 2 in 94-133r0 be
accepted for inclusion in SPI with the change that "go offline" becomes "may
go offline."  Ed Gardner seconded the motion.

Peter Johansson moved that the motion be amended to change "may" to "should." 
Gene Milligan seconded the motion.  The motion to amend passed 15:2:1:42. 
The amended main motion passed 20:1:1:38.

10.18    Acceptance motion(s) for other documents [Lohmeyer]

Gene Milligan moved that the following documents be accepted as current
working drafts for the associated projects of the X3T10 committee and be
approved for electronic distribution by Global Engineering Documents:

X3T10/0792D r07  working draft Common Access Method Transport an Dallas
X3T10/0855D r12c working draft SCSI-3 Parallel Interface         Lamers
X3T10/0948D r02  working draft AT Attachment Extensions-2        Finch
X3T10/0992D r17  working draft SCSI-3 Serial Bus Protocol        Roberts
X3T10/0993D r08  working draft SCSI-3 Fibre Channel Protocol     Snively
X3T10/0994D r13  working draft SCSI-3 Architecture Model         Monia

Bill Galloway seconded the motion.  The motion was approved 23:0:0:37.

11.   ISO [Milligan]

Gene Milligan, the acting X3T10 International Representative, waived giving
his oral report in lieu of the following electronic report:

                             ISO Report
                              July 1994

ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 25/WG4 met 4-7 July. The meeting was chaired by
Prof. Popovic with experts from Denmark, Germany, Japan, and the
United States. Positive NWI ballots were reviewed for five new
projects: FDDI Station Management (SMT) Abstract Test Suite (ATS),
FDDI Physical (PHY) Abstract Test Suite (ATS), FDDI Physical Medium
Dependent (PMD) Abstract Test Suite (ATS),  FDDI Media Access
Control (MAC) Abstract Test Suite (ATS), FDDI Low Cost Fibre
Physical Medium Dependent (LCF-PMD), and agreed to draft
resolutions to authorize a CD letter ballot upon receipt of the
relevant contributions.

CD letter ballot results were reviewed for nine projects concerning
FDDI SMF-PMD, FDDI Station Management (SMT), FDDI Physical Layer
Protocol - 2 (PHY-2), FDDI Media Access Control - 2 (MAC-2), FDDI
CT-PICS, IPI Enhanced PHY, HIPPI Framing Protocol (FP), HIPPI
Encapsulation of ISO 8802-2 Logical Link Control Protocol Data
Units (LE), and  HIPPI Physical Switch Control (SC).

DIS letter ballots are in progress for two projects SCSI-2 and
HIPPI-PH.

Publication of  two additional International Standards are in
progress for IPI Device-specific tape commands and FDDI Hybrid Ring
Control (HRC).

The working group is seeking guidance on the preferred course of
action for the FDDI to Synchronous Optical Network (SONET) Physical
Layer Mapping Function (FDDI SPM).

WG 4 encourages the continued processing of the HIPPI-FP, HIPPI-LE,
HIPPI-SC and FC-PH projects by other means in the event that the
results of  re-evaluation of the New Work Item project ballots
contained in JTC 1 N 2439-2442 are negative.

It was recommended that  four International Standards ISO/IEC
9314-3, 9318-2, 9318-3 and 9318-4 be confirmed.

Concerning the division of work between SC 6 and SC 25, WG 4
discussed the fact of the experience accumulated for
Telecommunications and information exchange between systems in SC
6 and for Interconnection of Information Technology Equipment in SC
25. The standards published and the projects prepared within the
two subcommittees were also considered. WG 4 concluded that
projects already started and in progress should be completed by the
subcommittee presently in charge of the work. Future proposed new
projects should be allocated to the body having the appropriate
expertise and resources for the specific subject applying the
evaluation diagram given in JTC 1 N 818.

WG 4 further concluded that FDDI is unambiguously within the scope
of SC 25/ WG 4 and underdevelopment since the inception of the
original proposal. 

The Enhanced Small Device Interface (ESDI) (ISO/IEC DIS 10 222)
camera-ready copy of the document was provided to the ITTF by the
ANSI publisher in February 1992. The ITTF did not receive the copy
and the IR will ask ANSI to send it again.

Concerning  Fibre Channel (FC) Physical and Signaling Interface
(PH) (ISO/IEC CD 14165-1) France voted no perhaps on a
misunderstanding that the proposal was for fast track. Prof. They
also asked to replace EIA/TIA and other US standards by IEC
standards. Mr. Milligan confirmed that IEC standards will be used
where possible. He also noted that the US is willing to cooperate
with the IEC to investigate if some existing requirements can be
replaced with IEC new standards. Mr. Cummings noted that the
experts in the US have reported that IEC standards are not yet
available in some areas. Mr. Cummings noted that French comments on
changing the terminology of baud and Mb/s may be difficult to
incorporate.

Mr. Milligan suggested that a note be added to the next revision of
the document to the effect that any remaining EIA/TIA standards are
referenced because no equivalent IEC standards exist, and that IEC
standards to cover the remaining items will be initiated to be in
place by the time of the five year review of the document.

On the  (FDDI) CT-PICS, FDDI Conformance Testing (ISO/IEC CD
9314-13) the vote from Germany was negative at the request of ECMA
since they felt that the lack of a normative reference to the
formal description language ISO/IEC 9646-1 was a technical issue.
It was surprising that the comment generated a negative since
ISO/IEC 9646-1 was referenced in all of the related ATS drafts. 

Concerning the failed ATA project proposal the other countries
indicated that there was no need for international standards for
interfaces internal to a cabinet. WG 4 decided not to request Fast
Track.

CAM is different since it impacts operating systems and in that
sense is beyond the cabinet in scope.  It was agreed to discuss CAM
at the next meeting after the members have had an opportunity to
discuss the desired course of action regarding CAM.

WG 4 discussed the recommendations from Geneva concerning the ISO
Patent Policy and agreed to be guided by the recommendations to
include one of two specific patent notices in each standard.

Numerous other agenda items were completed as reflected in the
twenty five resolutions offered on behalf of WG 4 for consideration
by SC 25. Further reference to the work is contained in the WG 4
minutes and its registry of  18 Hoersholm documents.

WG 4 reiterated their concern that a key issue continues to be
support of the WG 4 programme of work  since the interface
standards developed by this group through a very broad spectrum of
international participants are focused down to fairly few
participants at SC 25/ WG 4. These standards account for well over
35 million equipment shipments per year and more than tens of
billions of industry revenue stated in the currencies with lower
numerators. It would be a shame if this productive international
activity were to be impeded by it being accomplished with too few
direct participants to garner the minimum authorization requirement
|from JTC 1 even on projects which are essentially un-opposed and
based upon fairly mature definitions. Participation may be
accomplished by correspondence such as CD review.

Mr. Milligan raised the issue of the conflict in the JTC 1
directives between the passing rule of two-thirds; the failing
impact of  25% negative (translates to 75% to pass); and the rule
that abstentions do not count. The ITTF responded that more than P-
Member votes are counted when calculating two-thirds (O-Member
votes are counted) and only P-Members for the 25%. Mr. Milligan
noted that this then was in conflict with the membership rules in
the directives which states that O-Members are not allowed to vote.

The following resolutions were approved by SC 25 at its meeting on
8 July 1994.

Resolution WG 4/1

SC 25 instructs its Secretariat to determine from the ITTF the
publication status of ISO/IEC DIS 9314-5 FDDI-HRC.

Resolution WG 4/2

SC 25 instructs its Secretariat to inform JTC 1 that it has
determined that the level of active support from National Bodies
for ISO/IEC DIS 9324 Storage Module Interface has fallen below that
required by the ISO/IEC Procedures for Technical Work of ISO/IEC
JTC 1 on Information Technology - Clause 2.1.3.11.

SC 25 further instructs its Secretariat to take the appropriate
action to remove project 25.13.10.03 Storage Module Interface from
the SC 25 programme of Work and to inform the ITTF that the
registration of this project and its associated documents should be
canceled.

Resolution WG 4/3

SC 25 authorizes the project editor to prepare the final text of
ISO/IEC 9318-5 IPI-2 Tape, along with the Disposition of Comments
report in SC 25 N 154, for submission to the SC 25 Secretariat and
instructs the SC 25 Secretariat to forward the documents, upon
receipt from the project editor, to the ITTF for publication of the
IS.

Resolution WG 4/4

SC 25 authorizes the project editor to prepare the final text of
ISO/IEC 9316-1 SCSI-2, along with the Disposition of Comments
report, for submission to the SC 25 Secretariat and instructs the
SC 25 Secretariat to forward the documents, upon receipt from the
project editor, to the ITTF for publication of the IS.


Resolution WG 4/5

SC 25 authorizes the project editor to submit IPI Enhanced Physical
to the SC 25 Secretariat as ISO/IEC DIS 9318-6 for circulation,
along with the Disposition of Comments Report, to SC 25 and ITTF
for registration as a DIS for a four-month ballot.

Resolution WG 4/6
SC 25 authorizes the project editor to submit FDDI-SMT to the SC 25
Secretariat as ISO/IEC DIS 9314-6 for circulation, along with the
Disposition of Comments Report, to SC 25 and ITTF for registration
as a DIS for a four-month ballot.


Resolution WG 4/7

SC 25 authorizes the project editor to submit FDDI-PHY-2 to the SC
25 Secretariat as ISO/IEC DIS 9314-7 for circulation, along with
the Disposition of Comments Report, to SC 25 and ITTF for
registration as a DIS for a four-month ballot.

Resolution WG 4/8

SC 25 authorizes the project editor to submit FDDI-MAC-2 to the SC
25 Secretariat as ISO/IEC DIS 9314-8 for circulation, along with
the Disposition of Comments Report, to SC 25 and ITTF for
registration as a DIS for a four-month ballot.


Resolution WG 4/9

SC 25 instructs its Secretariat to issue a survey among its
national bodies requesting input on the following topic:

   * Is there a continued interest in developing standards for
interfacing between FDDI and SONET/SDH (reserved project
25.13.01.14)?

   The secretariat is instructed to initiate this survey as soon as
practical.

Resolution WG 4/10

SC 25 instructs its Secretariat to submit FDDI-SMT-ATS to the SC 25
Secretariat for registration as a CD and circulation for a three
month letter ballot, upon receipt of a contribution from the US
National Body.

Resolution WG 4/11

SC 25 instructs its Secretariat to submit FDDI-PHY-ATS to the SC 25
Secretariat for registration as a CD and circulation for a three
month letter ballot, upon receipt of a contribution from the US
National Body.

Resolution WG 4/12

SC 25 instructs its Secretariat to submit FDDI-PMD-ATS to the SC 25
Secretariat for registration as a CD and circulation for a three
month letter ballot, upon receipt of a contribution from the US
National Body.

Resolution WG 4/13

SC 25 instructs its Secretariat to submit FDDI-LCF-PMD to the SC 25
Secretariat for registration as a CD and circulation for a three
month letter ballot, upon receipt of LCF-PMD Revision 2.0 as a
contribution from the US National Body.

Resolution WG 4/14

SC 25 authorizes the project editor to submit FDDI-CT-PICS to the
SC 25 Secretariat as ISO/IEC DIS 9314-13 for circulation, along
with the Disposition of Comments Report, to SC 25 and ITTF for
registration as a DIS for a four-month ballot.

Resolution WG 4/15

SC 25 authorizes the project editor to submit FDDI-MAC-ATS to the
SC 25 Secretariat as ISO/IEC DIS 9314-26 for circulation, along
with the Disposition of Comments Report, to SC 25 and ITTF for
registration as a DIS for a four-month ballot.

Resolution WG 4/16

SC 25 authorizes the project editor to prepare the final text of
ISO/IEC DIS 11 518-1 HIPPI-PH, along with the Disposition of
Comments report in SC 25 N 154, for submission to the SC 25
Secretariat and instructs the SC 25 Secretariat to forward the
documents, upon receipt from the project editor, to the ITTF for
publication of the IS.


Resolution WG 4/17

SC 25 authorizes the project editor to submit HIPPI-FP Revision 4.3
to the SC 25 Secretariat as ISO/IEC DIS 11 518-2 for circulation,
along with the Disposition of Comments Report, to SC 25 and to the
ITTF, upon registration of the new project, for registration as a
DIS for a four-month ballot.

Resolution WG 4/18

SC 25 authorizes the project editor to submit HIPPI-LE Revision 3.4
to the SC 25 Secretariat as ISO/IEC DIS 11 518-3 for circulation,
along with the Disposition of Comments Report, to SC 25 and to the
ITTF, upon registration of the new project, for registration as a
DIS for a four-month ballot.


Resolution WG 4/19

SC 25 authorizes the project editor to submit HIPPI-SC Revision 2.6
to the SC 25 Secretariat as ISO/IEC DIS 11 518-6 for circulation,
along with the Disposition of Comments Report, to SC 25 and to the
ITTF, upon registration of the new project, for registration as a
DIS for a four-month ballot.

Resolution WG 4/20

SC 25 authorizes the project editor to submit FC-PH Revision 4.4 
to the SC 25 Secretariat as ISO/IEC DIS 14 165-1 for circulation,
along with the Disposition of Comments Report, to SC 25 and to the
ITTF, upon registration of the new project, for registration as a
DIS for a four-month ballot.

Resolution WG 4/21

SC 25 directs its Secretariat to pursue the reevaluation of the
results of the New Work Item project ballots for HIPPI-FP, HIPPI-
LE, HIPPI-SC and FC-PH contained in JTC 1 N 2439-2442.

Resolution WG 4/22

SC 25 encourages WG 4 to continue the processing of the HIPPI-FP,
HIPPI-LE, HIPPI-SC and FC-PH projects by other means in the event
that the results of the re-evaluation of the New Work Item project
ballots contained in JTC 1 N 2439-2442 are negative.

Resolution WG 4/23

SC 25 recommends to JTC 1 the following action with respect to the
periodical review of standards:

IS 9314-3:  Confirm.
IS 9318-2:  Confirm.
IS 9318-3:  Revise.
IS 9318-4:  Revise.

Resolution WG 4/24

SC 25 resolves to instruct its Secretariat to request modification
of the programme of work for IPI, HIPPI and FC (with suggested
standard numbers and project numbers) as follows:

Project Number Status Standard # Editor    Title
============== ====== ========== ========= =======================
25.13.12.TBD          11 518-8   Truestedt Reserved for HIPPI-ATM,
                                           HIPPI Mapping to ATM

25.13.13.TBD          14 165-X   Truestedt Reserved for FC-ATM,
                                           Fibre Channel Mapping to
                                           ATM

25.13.13.TBD          14 165-X   Truestedt Reserved for FC-EP,
                                           Fibre Channel Enhanced
                                           Physical

Resolution WG 4/25

SC 25 resolves to recommend to JTC 1 that the work on FDDI continue
within SC 25, according to the Scope of SC 25, and that JTC 1
allocate new projects according to the present responsibilities of
SC 6 and SC 25:

  SC 6 for the exchange of information primarily between systems by
means of WAN, MAN,, and LAN (e.g. CSMA/CD, Token Ring, Token Bus).

  SC 25 for interfaces and for protocols required for the
interconnection primarily within information systems (e.g. SCSI,
HIPPI, FDDI, Fibre Channel).

  This recommendation provides for the most efficient use of
scarce, available resources.


11.1  Alternative ISO process [Allan]

Dal reported that X3T11 will send FC-SB to ECMA to try his proposal (see the
minutes of the May Plenary).  Gene reported that, relative to ATA, that
Germany, Japan, and one other country are no longer interested in working on
standards that are internal to a cabinet due to resource limitations.  Gene
noted that there are no legal requirements for ISO standards for interfaces
that are internal to the cabinet; ANSI standards are sufficient.

Gene stated his opposition to sending our standards through ECMA because it
prohibits small companies from participating in the international standards
approval process.  Tom Hanan raised an ISO 9001 concern that standards like
ATA must be recognized by ISO.  Gene said that ANSI standards are sufficient
for ISO 9001.  John said that ISO 9001 does not prevent the use of national
standards.

12.   Liaison Reports

12.1  X3T11 Liaison Report [Cummings]

Neil Wanamaker reported on X3T11 activities for Roger Cummings:

X3T11 met on June 22, 1994 with 78 persons attending.  Three
organizations were added as members, bringing the total membership
of X3T11 to 51.

A letter has been received from the IBM X3 representative
indicating acceptance of the X3T11-approved responses to the Second
Public Review comments on the Fibre Channel (FC) Physical and
Signaling Interface (FC-PH).  Therefore FC-PH Revision 4.3, which
includes changes corresponding to the comment responses, will
shortly be forwarded for a BSR Review and publication.

The first Public Review of the FC Mapping to HIPPI Framing Protocol
(FC-FP) closed with the only comments submitted coming from the ISO
editor.  The requested changes have ben incorporated in the ISO
version of the FC-FP, and do not affect the ANSI version.  After
some further editorial review, FC-FP will also be forwarded for a
BSR Review and publication.

Comments from X3T11 Letter Ballots on the FC Arbitrated Loop (FC-
AL) Revision 4.2 and FC Mapping of Single-byte Command Code Sets
(FC-SB) Revision 3.0 are still being resolved, and the draft
responses were reviewed and edited at the meeting.  The new
revisions are suitable for forwarding for the first Public Review
are expected at or before the August X3T11 Plenary.

It was agreed to change the name of Project 959-D from FC
Crosspoint Switch (FC-XS) to FC Switch Topology and Switch Control
(FC-SW), to better reflect the independence of the draft from the
specific crosspoint method of operation.

The June X3T11 meeting week had been previously establish as the
cutoff for technical proposals on items to be included in the next-
generation FC Enhanced Physical (FC-EP).  Items meeting this target
date are:

. 2 and 4 gigabaud shortwave laser optical variants
. Twinax-based variant @ 133, 266, 531, and 1062.5 megabaud
. Hunt groups, striping and unacknowledged multicast features
. Fractional bandwidth controls
. Isochronous operation
. Support for many levels of frame priority
. Support for accepted security mechanisms

The FC Static Switch Project Proposal, which was included in the
mailing, was not forwarded due to lack of a committed technical
editor.

A considerable discussion took place on the subject of forwarding
documents to ISO via the European Computer Manufacturers
Association (ECMA).  It was agreed to forward the FC-SB draft via
this process as a test case.

12.2  SFF Industry Group [Allan]

SFF-8020 for ATAPI CD-ROM was approved for publication and forwarding to
Global Engineering.  The form factor documents for 1.3" and 1.8" drives were
forwarded to EIA along with power connector pin dimensions.

Confusion has been caused by a PCI group which named itself Small Form
Factor.

A new activity was proposed by Bill Ham to work on Very High Density
Interconnects to take advantage of recent connector technology.

It was proposed that a library/source of information be established of
products which comply/use SSF specifications.

12.3  IEEE P1394 [Marazas]

Formation by the IEEE of the ballot pool for voting upon the P1394 draft
standard has just closed as of July 20, 1994. A preliminary report as of
early July indicated over 100 persons are in the 1394 ballot pool. I expect
the start of the 1394 review period to begin sometime in August. Revision 7.1
of the 1394 document will be mailed to participants in the ballot pool for
their review, comment, and vote.

Revision 7.1 differs in very minor respects from revision 7.0 which was
distributed to the X3T10 membership in the June mailing. There are no
technical changes in revision 7.1 relative to revision 7.0. There are
editorial changes in revision 7.1 introduced so as to bring the format of the
draft standard into conformity to recent changes in IEEE editorial standards.
It is expected that these editorial conformance changes will act so as to
minimize style and format comments from various IEEE reviewers during the
public review phase.

12.4  IT8 [Lohmeyer]

No report.

12.5  IEEE P1285 Status [Pak]

No report.

12.6  PCMCIA Report [McLean]

Larry Lamers gave the following report:

The PC-Card SCSI work group met briefly in the absence of Larry
Barnes.  A motion to support including I/O connectors in the PCMCIA
specification passed.  There was no action taken at the Card
Physical meeting on the PC Card SCSI I/O connector.

No work was done on the proposed CIS for SCSI nor the software
layering discussed at Gatwick.  All the work items in PC Card ATA
were completed in Gatwick.  The group plans to meet in August only
if some action by the Technical Committee needs attention.

There are intellectual property issues surrounding the release of
the CARDBUS specification.  It is anticipated that these will be
resolved in time for the next PCMCIA specification release.

The Technical Committee did not accept the 3v5v proposal for
editorial reasons.  The committee did not want to vote yes on a
document that they had not reviewed given the history of editorial
problems with that document.

A new structure has been instituted within the PCMCIA organization
called the X86 focus group.  This is an outgrowth of earlier work
done under ExCA and `QuickSwap'.  The intent of the X86 focus group
is to work on compatibility and testing issues for X86 platforms. 
This group is looking for volunteers to lead efforts on specific
card types.  Rich Dvorchak of Intel is leading this effort
(Rich_Dvorchak at ccm2.hf.intel.com).

12.7  AIIM C21 [Podio]

Acting in Fernando Podio's absence, John Lohmeyer moved that two log page
codes be assigned to the C21 AIIM project.  Both codes apply to optical
memory devices.  Page code 08h shall be assigned to the Media Error log page. 
Page code 09h shall be assigned to the Clear Media Error log page.  The
definition of these log pages will be delivered to X3T10 in document 94-113. 
The incomplete revision 1 of 94-113 can be found in the June mailing.  Erich
Oetting seconded the motion.  The motion was approved 22:0:0:38.

George Penokie has sent comments to Fernando Podio regarding 94-113 usage of
mode pages.  George dislikes the variable length mode pages proposed in 94-
113.  George also suggested adding new mode pages instead of extending
existing mode pages.

13.   Review of Action Items

10)   John Lohmeyer will contact Lynn Barra regarding the LOG SENSE TIB
      (X3T9.2/90-165) which is on hold.
21)   George Penokie will prepare a revision of the LOG SENSE TIB.
22)   Larry Lamers will contact X3 to learn the style requirements for a
      technical report (for use by Gary Stephens, GPP editor).
23)   John Lohmeyer will forward the revised GPP project proposal 94-099r0
      and negative letter ballot comments to X3 for further processing.
24)   Gene Milligan will draft proposed procedures for periodic/timely
      publication of documents until a standard becomes dormant.
25)   John Lohmeyer will generate letter ballots for the ATA-3 and ATAPI
      project proposals (94-019r4 and 94-022r4, respectively).

14.   Meeting Schedule

The next plenary meeting of X3T10 will be September 15-16, 1994, in Houston,
TX, at the Hotel Sofitel (713-445-9000), hosted by Compaq Computer.  The
meeting will begin at 1:00 pm on Thursday and at 8:30 am on Friday (if
necessary).

The meeting list for the next plenary week is:

                           September '94 Meeting Map

Monday 9/12        9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
                   +===========================================+
                   | SCSI CAM Working Group                    |  (25)
                   +===============================+-----------+
                   | SSA electrical interface WG   | SSA UIG   |  (30)
                   +================+==============+-----------+
                   | XOR commands SG|  MMC WG      |              (20)
                   +================+==============+


Tuesday 9/13       9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8
                   +===========================================+
                   |    X3T10.1                                |  (40)
                   +===================+=======================+
                                       |      SCSI-3 WG        |  (40)
                   +===================+=======================+
                   | SCC & RAB Joint Meeting       |              (40)
                   +===============================+

Wednesday 9/14     9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9
                   +===============================================+
                   | SCSI-3 WG                                     |  (45)
                   +===============================================+

Thursday 9/15      9   10  11  12  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9
                   +===============+===============================+
                   | ATA WG        | X3T10 Plenary                 |  (40/80)
                   +===============+===============================+

Friday 9/16    8   9   10  11  12  1   2
                 +===========----------+
                 | X3T10 (*) / SFF     |                          (80)
                 +===========----------+

(*) If X3T10 meeting runs until Friday, Small Form Factor will follow
    the X3T10 meeting; Otherwise, SFF starts at 8:30 am.
    Meetings marked with == are X3T10-authorized meetings.
    Meetings marked with -- are authorized by other groups and may change
    without notice.

Meeting Map Abbreviation Key:
ATA:              AT Attachment (a.k.a. IDE)
CAM:              Common Access Method
Gen Edit Sess:    General Editing Session
El:               Electrical
I/F:              Interface
LB:               Letter Ballot
MMC:              SCSI-3 Multimedia Commands (CD-ROM)
P1394:            IEEE Project on High Performance Serial Bus (not an X3            
                  activity)
Plenary:          Full Committee Meeting
RAB:              RAID Advisory Board (not an X3 activity)
RAID:             Redundant Array of Independent Devices
SCC:              SCSI-3 Controller Commands (RAID)
SFF:              Small Form Factor Industry Group (not an X3 activity)
SG:               Study Group
SSA:              Serial Storage Interface
SSP:              Serial Storage Protocol (Protocol for SSA)
UIG:              User Interest Group (not an X3 activity)
WG:               Working Group (same as Ad Hoc Group)
X3T10:            Lower Level Interfaces Technical Committee (was X3T9.2)
X3T10.1:          SSA Task Group of X3T10 (was X3T9.7)
XOR:              Exclusive OR


Several other X3T10 events are also planned:
Event                           Day/Date  Time      Location/contact
------------------------------- --------- --------- -----------------------
ATA Working Group               Wed  8/31
                                     9/1  9a - 5p   Bay Area/Finch
ATA Working Group               Thu  9/15 9a - 12p  Houston/Compaq
SCC Working Group               Tue  8/16 9a - 5p   Keystone/Penokie
SCC Working Group               Tue  9/13 9a - 5p   Houston/Penokie

For more information about X3T10 activities, please contact the following
people:

Activity                     Contact        Telephone/Email
---------------------------- -------------- ------------------------------
CAM Working Group            Bill Dallas    (603) 881-2508
                                            dallas at wasted.enet.dec.com
ATA Working Group            Steve Finch    (714) 573-6808
                                            5723283 at mcimail.com
GPP Working Group            Gary Stephens  (602) 321-1725
                                            6363897 at mcimail.com
MMC Study Group              Norm Harris    (408) 945-8600 x2230
                                            nharris at adaptec.com
SSC Contact                  Edward Lappin  (303) 447-7718
                                            tedl at exabyte.com
SPC Contact                  Ralph Weber    (603) 881-1497
                                            weber at star.enet.dec.com
RAID Study Group             George Penokie (507) 253-5208
                                            gop at rchvmp3.vnet.ibm.com
SAM Working Group            Charles Monia  (508) 841-6757
                                            monia at starch.enet.dec.com
SBP Working Group            Jerry Marazas  (407) 982-4423
                                            marazas at bcrvmpc2.vnet.ibm.com
SPI Contact                  Larry Lamers   (408) 432-4776
                                            71540.2756 at compuserve.com
SIP Contact                  Larry Lamers   (408) 432-4776
                                            71540.2756 at compuserve.com
SCAM Contact                 Ed Gardner     (719) 548-2247
                                            gardner at ssag.enet.dec.com
Other Activities             John Lohmeyer  (719) 573-3362
                                            john.lohmeyer at ftcollinsco.ncr.com

The long-term X3T10 meeting week schedule is:

Date             Location                  Host/Comments
---------------  ------------------------  --------------------------
Sep 12-16, 1994  Houston, TX               Compaq
Nov 7-11,  1994  Palm Springs, CA          Western Digital
Jan  8-13, 1995  Lake Tahoe, NV            SSI
Mar  5-10, 1995  Newport Beach, CA         QLogic
May  7-12, 1995  Harrisburg, PA            AMP
Jul  9-14, 1995  Colorado Springs, CO      AT&T/NCR Microelectronics
Sep 10-15, 1995  Manchester, NH            Digital
Nov  5-10, 1995  Southern CA               Western Digital

14.1  Authorization of Working Group Meetings

John noted that the working group meetings are required to operate under the
same voting procedures as does X3T10 (that is, one vote per organization) and
the results of a working group are not binding on the parent committee.  This
later requirement is why we have traditionally only used non-binding straw
polls in working group meetings.  Any issue where the voting rules would make
a difference is automatically deferred to the plenary group.

Steve Finch moved and Erich Oetting seconded that X3T10 authorize the X3T10-
related meetings and events in the list above.  The motion passed
unanimously.

15.   Adjournment

The meeting was adjourned at 9:04 p.m. on Thursday July 21, 1994.


                       Meeting Attenders -- Enclosure (1)

         Name          S        Organization         Electronic Mail Address
---------------------- -- ------------------------- -------------------------
Mr. Richard Kalish     A  Adaptec, Inc.             rkalish at aol.com
Mr. Lawrence J. Lamers A# Adaptec, Inc.             ljlamers at aol.com
Mr. David Wang         P  Advanced Micro Devices    david.wang at amd.com
Mr. Neil T. Wanamaker  P  Amdahl Corp.              ntw20 at eng.amdahl.com
Mr. Bob Whiteman       A  AMP, Inc.                 whiteman at cup.portal.com
Mr. Jeff Rosa          P  Amphenol Interconnect
Mr. Ken Scherzinger    V  Amphenol Spectra Strip
Mr. Jan V. Dedek       P  Ancot Corp.               dedek at ancot.com
Mr. Dennis Pak         A  Apple Computer            dennis.pak at applelink.appl
                                                    e.com
Mr. John Lohmeyer      P  AT&T/ NCR                 john.lohmeyer at ftcollinsco
                          Microelectronics          .ncr.com
Mr. Stephen Martin     O  Berk-Tek, Inc.
Mr. Joe Stoupa         O  Burr-Brown Corp.          Stoupa_Joe at bbrown.com
Mr. Steven Ramberg     A  BusLogic                  stever at buslogic.com
Mr. Richard Wagner     O  Cable Design Technologies
Mr. Gerry Johnsen      P  Ciprico Inc.              gerry at ciprico.com
Mr. Ian Morrell        A  Circuit Assembly Corp.    crctassmbl at aol.com
Mr. Joe Chen           P  Cirrus Logic Inc.         chen at cirrus.com
Mr. Bill Galloway      P  Compaq Computer Corp.     billg at bangate.compaq.com
Mr. Peter Johansson    P  Congruent Software, Inc.  pjohansson at aol.com
Mr. Timothy Feldman    A  Conner Peripherals        Tim.Feldman at conner.com
Mr. Louis Grantham     P  Dallas Semiconductor      grantham at dalsemi.com
Mr. Charles Monia      P  Digital Equipment Corp.   monia at starch.enet.dec.com
Dr. William Ham        A# Digital Equipment Corp.   ham at subsys.enet.dec.com
Mr. William Dallas     A# Digital Equipment Corp.   dallas at wasted.enet.dec.co
                                                    m
Mr. Ralph Weber        A# Digital Equipment Corp.   weber at star.enet.dec.com
Mr. Edward A. Gardner  A  Digital Equipment Corp.   gardner at ssag.enet.dec.com
Mr. Wayne Buckholdt    V  Distributed Processing    Buckholt at dpt.com
                          Tech.
Mr. Mark Hamel         V  EMC Corp.                 hamel at emc.com
Mr. I. Dal Allan       P  ENDL                      2501752 at mcimail.com
Mr. Kenneth J. Hallam  A  ENDL                      khallam at endlas.com
Mr. Edward Lappin      P  Exabyte Corp.             tedl at exabyte.com
Mr. Gary R. Stephens   P  FSI Consulting Services   6363897 at mcimail.com
Mr. Robert Liu         P  Fujitsu Computer          74503.1610 at compuserve.com
                          Products,Am
Mr. Steve Caron        O  Furukawa Electric
Mr. Mark Raymond       A# Future Domain Corp.
Mr. Rene Macare        O  Future Domain Corp.       renem at fdc.mhs.compuserve.
                                                    com
Mr. Ray Kallio         P  Harbor Electronics
Mr. Jeffrey L.         P  Hewlett Packard Co.       jlw at hpdmd48.boi.hp.com
Williams
Mr. Pat Edsall         O  Hewlett Packard Co.       edsall at hpdmd48.boi.hp.com
Ms. Nancy Cheng        O  Hitachi Computer Products n_cheng at hitachi.com
Mr. Motoyasu Tsunoda   O  Hitachi Micro Systems,    mtsunoda at hmsi.hitachi.com
                          Inc.
Mr. David McFadden     P  Honda Connectors
Mr. George Penokie     P  IBM Corp.                 gop at rchvmp3.vnet.ibm.com
Mr. John P. Scheible   A  IBM Corp.                 Scheible at vnet.ibm.com
Mr. Dan Colegrove      A# IBM Corp.                 colegrove at vnet.ibm.com
Mr. Ken Cummings       O  IBM Corp.                 kcummings at vnet.ibm.com
Dr. Gerald Marazas     A# IBM PC Company            marazas at bcrvmpc2.vnet.ibm
                                                    .com
Mr. Geoffrey Barton    P  Iomega Corp.              glbarton at iomega.com
Mr. Dean Wallace       P  Linfinity Micro
Mr. Mario Montana      V  LSI Logic


                       Meeting Attenders -- Enclosure (1)

         Name          S        Organization         Electronic Mail Address
---------------------- -- ------------------------- -------------------------
Mr. Robert Bellino     P  Madison Cable Corp.
Mr. Ezra Alcudia       A  Maxoptix Corp.
Mr. Ray Heineman       O  Maxtor Corp.              ray_heineman at maxtor.com
Mr. Bob Masterson      P  Methode Electronics, Inc.
Mr. Bruce Anderson     P  NEC Technologies Inc.     banderson at nectech.com
Mr. Peter Brown        P  Oak Technology, Inc.      brown at oaktech.com
Mr. Skip Jones         P  QLogic Corp.              sk_jones at qlc.com
Mr. James McGrath      P  Quantum Corp.             JMCGRATH at QNTM.COM
Mr. Gene Milligan      P  Seagate Technology        Gene_Milligan at notes.seaga
                                                    te.com
Mr. Gerald Houlder     A  Seagate Technology        Gerry_Houlder at notes.seaga
                                                    te.com
Mr. Stephen G. Finch   P  Silicon Systems, Inc.     5723283 at mcimail.com
Mr. Erich Oetting      P  Storage Technology Corp.  Erich_Oetting at Stortek.com
Mr. Robert N. Snively  P  Sun Microsystems, Inc.    Bob.Snively at sun.com
Mr. Akram Atallah      O  SyQuest Technology Corp.
Mr. Ray Baril          V  Temp-Flex Cable, Inc.
Mr. Skip Linehan       P  U.S. Design               skip at usdesign.com
Mr. Peter Dougherty    P  UNISYS Corporation        peter.dougherty at unisys.mv
                                                    -oc.com
Mr. Paul D. Aloisi     P  Unitrode Integrated       Aloisi at uicc.com
                          Circuits
Mr. Tom Hanan          A# Western Digital           hanan_t at a1.wdc.com
                          Corporation
Mr. Tak Asami          A  Western Digital           asami at dt.wdc.com
                          Corporation
Mr. Doug Piper         P  Woven Electronics         WOVEN ELECTRONICS / MCI
                                                    ID: 549-9900
Mr. Duncan Penman      P  Zadian Technologies       penman at netcom.com

72 People Present

Status Key:  P    -  Principal
             A,A# -  Alternate
             O    -  Observer
             L    -  Liaison
             V    -  Visitor
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