Hi, Shawn, sorry to be slow in responding, but as you pointed out, it's vague in the standads that apply (FCP-3/4 and FC-LS), and I ahd to struggle to find anything. In the end, I came to the same conclusion as Kevin Butt about intent.
 
There is some hint in both standards that a PLOGI in the presense of an existing N_Port Login is traumatic: In FCP-4 table 7, the columns for PLOGI and PRLI are the same as the ones for LOGO and PRLO.
 
In FC-LS concerning PLOGI, the third paragraph of  subclause 6.3.2.1 requires treatment of new Sequences "as though a Logout had been performed". From the standpoint of FC-LS, this is essentially equivalent to an implicit logout, since FC-LS and FC-FS-3 specify no persistent behavior that is not either renegotiated by PLOGI or reflected in the collection of open Sequences.
 
Concerning PRLI, FC-LS insists on the next to last paragraph on page 180 (printed numbering) that it does NOT imply Process Logout; however, the last paragraph suggests the iimpact is similar if Service Parameters are changed. FCP-3/4 would appear to override this, at least in part.
 
You're right that some clarification would be nice.  I suspect that FC-LS-2 needs to explicitly say that a PLOGI causes implicit logout of any existing N_Port Login with the same N_Port, and FCP-4 should say that PRLI causes I_T nexus loss if it changes existing FCP-4 Service Parameters. Others on this reflector may be able to make a better statement. Would you like to propose text for FCP-4 and/or FC-LS-2? Would you like me to?
 
   - bob nixon (secretary for FCP-4 and FC-LS-2)
 
 


From: owner-t10@t10.org [mailto:owner-t10@t10.org] On Behalf Of Shawn Authement
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:31 AM
To: t10@t10.org
Subject: Re: I_T nexus loss

A big thank you to all who responded!  I was just wondering if anyone may know where I can reference the situations which cause an implicit LOGO/PRLO, or maybe is this a better question to ask T11?  FC-LS-2 section 6.4.4 seems to be vague on the issue, and doesn't mention this case.


Thanks,
-- 
Shawn Authement
Sr. Software Engineer
Texas Memory Systems, Inc.
Shawn.Authement@texmemsys.com
ph: +1.713.266.3200
Kevin D Butt wrote:

Shawn,

Yes, when an N_Port performs a PLOGI/PRLI it logs in again.  This can be viewed as an implicit LOGO/PRLO and as stated in 4.11 of FCP-4 (http://www.t10.org/ftp/t10/drafts/fcp4/fcp4r01.pdf) this generates an I_T nexus loss notification.

Regards,

Kevin D. Butt
SCSI & Fibre Channel Architect, Tape Firmware
MS 6TYA, 9000 S. Rita Rd., Tucson, AZ 85744
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From: Shawn Authement <Shawn.Authement@texmemsys.com>
To: t10@t10.org
Date: 09/24/2008 12:17 PM
Subject: I_T nexus loss





* From the T10 Reflector (t10@t10.org), posted by:
* Shawn Authement <Shawn.Authement@texmemsys.com>
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All,

I am currently researching device behavior with respect to N_Port login
and was wondering if anyone can provide clarification.

Q: If an already-logged-in N_Port performs login again (via PLOGI), is
this considered an I_T nexus loss as defined by SAM-3, 6.3.4?

The ENDL Fibre Channel Bench Reference implies that re-Login causes an
implicit Logout.  However, I cannot find any supporting information in
either the FCP-3 for FC-LS specifications.  My goal is to ultimately
determine whether a SCSI Target Port should set a Unit Attention if a
SCSI Initiator Port re-logs in.

Thank you for your your help!

--
Shawn Authement
Sr. Software Engineer
Texas Memory Systems, Inc.
Shawn.Authement@texmemsys.com
ph: +1.713.266.3200

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