Subject: RE: miniSAS active cable keying Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:54:37 -0400 From: "Gourgen Oganessyan" <gourgen@quellan.com> To: <t10@t10.org> X-Message-Number: 8874 Formatted message: HTML-formatted message Alvin, The idea was to prevent an active cable from plugging into a legacy passive receptacle, because in such a scenario the link won't work, and the group felt there needs to be keying to fool-proof this in the field. On the other hand, a legacy passive cable can be plugged into a SAS 2.1 active receptacle, since that should work due to proposed sense pin and power supply logic. The proposed reverse-gender keying accomplishes that: (Active plug with a key) PLUGS INTO (Active Receptacle with a key-slot) (Active plug with a key) DOES NOT PLUG INTO (Passive Receptacle without key-slots) (Passive plug without a key) PLUGS INTO (Active Receptacle with a key-slot) (Passive plug without a key) PLUGS INTO (Passive Receptacle without key-slots) Gourgen Oganessyan Quellan Inc. Phone: (630)-802-0574 (cell) Fax: (630)-364-5724 e-mail: gourgen@quellan.com <mailto:gourgen@quellan.com> ________________________________ From: owner-t10@t10.org [mailto:owner-t10@t10.org] On Behalf Of Alvin.Cox@seagate.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 10:04 AM To: t10@t10.org Subject: miniSAS active cable keying During our last SAS phy conference call, there were separate keys indicated for active cables (see 08-257r0 <http://www.t10.org/ftp/t10/document.08/08-257r0.pdf> ). I am wondering what the implementation plan is. The keys provide no protection from plugging in a SAS 1.1 (legacy passive) cable and the phy's should work with the SAS 2.0 10-meter passive version, so what is the advantage of adding this key? I guess I am missing something in the planned implementation. Could someone elaborate? Alvin Cox Seagate Technology, LLC Office 405-381-8067 Cell 405-206-4809 E-Mail alvin.cox@seagate.com