From: "Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)" <Elliott@hp.com> To: "t10@t10.org" <t10@t10.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:06:47 +0000 Subject: RE: miniSAS active cable keying X-Message-Number: 8872 Formatted message: HTML-formatted message The receptacle key slots will mean: a) no key slots: SAS-1 phy present, only <= 6 m passive cables supported b) key slot 1: SAS-2 phy present, > 6 m passive cables supported c) key slot 2: power provided. A SAS-2 phy is probably present, but that's orthogonal. A SAS-1.x receptacle includes no key slots. A SAS-2.x receptacle not providing power will just include key slot 1. A SAS-2.1 receptacle providing power will include both key slots 1 and 2. The cable keys will mean: a) none: <= 6 m passive cable b) key 1: > 6 m passive cable, needs a SAS-2 phy c) key 2: active cable, needs power This ensures that: 1. short passive cables plug in everywhere 2. long passive cables only plug into receptacles with SAS-2 phys 3. active cables only plug into receptacles with power It's up to the power supply logic behind a receptacle with key slot 2 to determine if the cable is passive or active and only provide power to an active cable. (NOTE: the numbers of the key positions may change... e.g., these might be slots "1" and "5" in the end) --- Rob Elliott, HP Industry Standard Server Storage ________________________________ From: owner-t10@t10.org [mailto:owner-t10@t10.org] On Behalf Of Alvin.Cox@seagate.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 9:04 AM To: t10@t10.org Subject: miniSAS active cable keying During our last SAS phy conference call, there were separate keys indicated for active cables (see 08-257r0<http://www.t10.org/ftp/t10/document.08/08-257r0.pdf>). I am wondering what the implementation plan is. The keys provide no protection from plugging in a SAS 1.1 (legacy passive) cable and the phy's should work with the SAS 2.0 10-meter passive version, so what is the advantage of adding this key? I guess I am missing something in the planned implementation. Could someone elaborate? Alvin Cox Seagate Technology, LLC Office 405-381-8067 Cell 405-206-4809 E-Mail alvin.cox@seagate.com