To: Ralph Weber <roweber@IEEE.org> Cc: owner-t10@t10.org, "'t10@t10.org'" <t10@t10.org> Subject: Re: 256-bit vs 512-bit strength security From: Kevin D Butt <kdbutt@us.ibm.com> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:20:01 -0700 X-Message-Number: 8066 Formatted message: HTML-formatted message All, I would like to share what Hugo Krawczyk, one of IBM's cryptographers has shared with me. << The 256-strength suite is total overkill. There is no need to use AES with 256-bit key today or SHA-512. Of course, the 128-bit suite may be broken next month (or in 5 years) but the same is possible for the 256-bit suite. Actually, who said 500-bit EC will not turn out to have only 128 bit of security in a breakthrough cryptanalysis in 5-10 years (or next month)? Given the information we have today, the 128-bit suite is good enough for almost all commercial applications. If you need security of your data for the next 50 years you may consider going to a stronger suite, but then (again) who said that the 256-bit will suffice? (for 50 year security I recommend sending it inside a physical safe :) The only reason I see now for going for a 256-bit suite is to promote ECC. That may or may not be a good idea, but it should be clear that that's the only relevant reason for this suite. Hugo >> Thanks, Kevin D. Butt SCSI & Fibre Channel Architect, Tape Firmware MS 6TYA, 9000 S. Rita Rd., Tucson, AZ 85744 Tel: 520-799-2869 / 520-799-5280 Fax: 520-799-2723 (T/L:321) Email address: kdbutt@us.ibm.com http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/storage/ Ralph Weber <roweber@IEEE.org> Sent by: owner-t10@t10.org 09/12/2007 07:25 PM To "'t10@t10.org'" <t10@t10.org> cc Subject 256-bit vs 512-bit strength security * From the T10 Reflector (t10@t10.org), posted by: * Ralph Weber <roweber@ieee.org> * Reminder: On Wednesday afternoon in Vancouver, you will be asked to vote your company's position on a choice between mandating 256-bit strength security or 512-bit strength security in SPC-4. If you do not yet know your company's position, now would be a good time to start asking some embarrassing questions. All the best, .Ralph * * For T10 Reflector information, send a message with * 'info t10' (no quotes) in the message body to majordomo@t10.org