Subject: SAS PHY teleconference 5/24/07, 10 am CDT: Definition of BUJ and T10/07-259r0 Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 10:33:18 -0700 From: "Larry McMillan" <Larry.McMillan@wdc.com> To: <Alvin.Cox@seagate.com>, <t10@t10.org> X-Message-Number: 7812 Formatted message: HTML-formatted message Regarding the discussion in today's phy call regarding the definition of bounded uncorrelated jitter (BUJ): Here are a few references I found in just the 1st page of results from a quick web search. In skimming the various papers/articles I didn't see a single definition of BUJ that agrees with the definition put forth in T10/07-259r0. It seems to me the views of the rest of the world need to be seriously considered before we generate our own variant definition of BUJ. The links follow. Comments anyone? Larry McMillan Western Digital 949-672-7687 Cal Tech Paper differentiates between BUJ and DDJ: <http://www.its.caltech.edu/~hajimiri/pdf/Crosstalk_DDJ.pdf> <http://www.its.caltech.edu/~hajimiri/pdf/Crosstalk_DDJ.pdf> http://www.its.caltech.edu/~hajimiri/pdf/Crosstalk_DDJ.pdf BERTScope paper differentiates between BUJ and other non-ISI DJ: http://www.ofcnfoec.org/materials/BERTScope_Testing.pdf Wavecrest paper differentiates between BUJ and all other DJ: http://www.wavecrest.com/technical/VISI_6_Getting_Started_Guides/6understand ing.pdf Guide Tech paper differentiates between BUJ and PJ: http://www.guidetech.com/pdf/wp/GTW2004_BUJ_Characterization.pdf Guide Tech paper differentiates between BUJ and and all other DJ: http://www.jitter.com/pdf/wp/itc2004_JitterModelsforSerialInterconnects.pdf EE Times Asia article differentiates between BUJ and other DJ, including PJ: http://www.eetasia.com/ARTICLES/2003MAR/B/2003MAR16_HBM_NTES_TA.PDF?SOURCES= DOWNLOAD