To: t10@t10.org Subject: Reminder: SAS PHY teleconference 5/24/07, 10 am CDT From: Alvin.Cox@seagate.com Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 10:13:20 -0500 X-Message-Number: 7808 Formatted message: HTML-formatted message Toll Free Dial in Number: (877)810-9442 International Access/Caller Paid Dial In Number: (636)651-3190 PARTICIPANT CODE: 3243413 Webex information: https://seagate.webex.com/seagate Topic: SAS-2 PHY WG Date: Thursday Time: 10:00 am, Central Daylight Time (GMT -05:00, Chicago) Meeting number: 826 515 680 Meeting password: 6gbpsSAS Agenda: 1. Transmitter jitter specification [Kramer] See comments to reflector from Allen Kramer regarding RJ versus DJ. 2. Receiver jitter tolerance [Jenkins] Mike to provide a working draft to discuss. 3. SAS-2: Improving a Jitter Definition (07-205) http://www.t10.org/ftp/t10/document.07/07-205r0.pdf Comments from Bent Hessen-Schmidt, SyntheSys Research, Inc.: I suggest that we use text equivalent to: The Reference Clock characteristics are controlled by the resulting JTF (Jitter Transfer Function) characteristics obtained by taking the time difference between the PLL output (the Reference Clock) and the data stream sourced to the PLL. The PLL CLTF -3 dB corner frequency, and other adjustable CLTF parameters such a peaking, are determined by the value required to meet the requirements of the JTF. The JTF shall have the following characteristics for an encoded D24.3 pattern (1100110011 0011001100). This is the MFTP which is a test pattern that has clock-like characteristics and a transition density of 0.5. 1) The -3 dB corner frequency of the JTF shall be 3 MHz +/-1 MHz. 2) The magnitude peaking of the JTF shall be 3.5 dB maximum. 3) The attenuation at 30 KHz +/-1% shall be 75 dB +/-3 dB. The JTF -3dB corner frequency and the magnitude peaking requirements shall be measured with sinusoidal PJ applied, with a peak-to-peak amplitude of 0.3 UI +/-10%. The relative attenuation at 30 KHz shall be measured with sinusoidal phase (time) modulation applied, with a peak-to-peak amplitude of 20.8 ns +/-10%. You will see that we have changed to from 72 db to 75 dB and from 2.1 MHz to 3 MHz and added the word “relative” to the last sentence. Relative should indicate that the 75 dB are with respect to the actual magnitude of jitter on the 30 kHz stimulus. The +/-10% therefore merely sets the starting point and still allows the other vendor. All uncertainties are then included in the +/-3 dB term. Effective tightening of the tolerances can be seen on the residual of the 30 kHz being confined to less than 5.2 ps instead of (7.4 x 1.1 x 1.1 ps = 8.95 ps). 4. SAS-2 Channel StatEye Simulation Results (07-253) [Witt] http://www.t10.org/ftp/t10/document.07/07-253r0.pdf Status: * Galen is to send Harvey a 10-meter Mini SAS cable. Harvey will post data from actual hardware in the near future. * Harvey will continue to forward StatEye questions to Anthony Saunders to improve the model. * Mike Jenkins suggested some settings to help the simulation set-up. Kevin will try. 5. SAS-2 6Gbps PHY Electrical Specification http://www.t10.org/ftp/t10/document.07/07-063r7.pdf r7: Added transmitter common mode requirements and updated physical receiver test description. * Review note concerning dBmV. * See questions in physical receiver test description. 6. Additional items and updates. Alvin Cox Seagate Technology, LLC Office 405-381-8067 Cell 405-206-4809 E-Mail alvin.cox@seagate.com